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Acer Aspire 5720Z Notebook Laptop, Dual Core T2310 1.46GHz, 15.4" TFT, 2048MB RAM, 80GB Hard-drive, DVD±RW, Intel GraphicsX3100, WiFi, Vista Home Premium

Price valid until 11th May

Intel Pentium Dual Core T2310
Memory: 2GB RAM
Hard Drive: 80GB Hard Disk Drive
Graphics Card: Mobile Intel� GM960 Express chipset with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Optical Drive: DVD SuperMulti, CD/DVD reader/writer for all types of CD/DVD discs
Audio: Dolby Digital Live surround sound
Connectivity: Wireless LAN B/G, 4 x USB 2.0 Ports, 5 in 1 Card Reader
Operating System: Windows� Vista Premium:Additional Software: Acer Empowering Technology, Acer Arcade, Norton Internet Security Trial, Adobe Reader, NTI CD Maker
Display Size: 15.4" WXGA TFT Display with Acer CrystalBrite technology
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#1
Nice find good price heat added
#2
processor may be a little weak... am I right?
#3
seems a nice price for what it is
good find
:)
#4
mistry123
processor may be a little weak... am I right?


not as weak as having a mouse in your laptop ;-)
banned#5
hmmmm... dixons refurb was better... 80gb is shameful.

Not a good price imo
banned#6
I take it back.. ebuyer is around the same... ok price. I wont vote
#7
good price, surprisingly, the laptop is actually quite quick. I did have one, but had to send it back with hard drive and sound problems.

Build quality on the cheaper acers is not up to scratch.

As its a hot deal, i vote hot.
#9
Awesome price by the way, really let down by the poor quality and even worse sub contracted after sales, sorry edi :?
#10
Better deal than the EEEPC unless you need the latter's tiny size.
#11
cold - 1.4ghz and 80gb is shameful, plus acer is a very naff manufacturer of everything, don't expect that laptop to still work in a year.

its funny that by putting in 2gb ram in a totally unsuitable machine they call it vista capable.
#12
Got the same but better processor, its 1.6ghz c2d and have had no probs so far and has run superbly considering it cost just over 300 at xmas time, even runs games like doom 3 and its a x3100 gpu!
#13


dude, get over it... I've an acer and have never had a problem... my bud had a hard drive issue which they fixed and returned to him in 2 weeks.

You should learn from your mistake and make sure that any deliveries that are to be picked up by DHL have sufficient packaging as this is obviously the underlying issue.

My gf's acer is picky with playing dvd's so I'm gonna post it back.. by reading your thread I think I'll put Vista back on it just to be safe so thanks for the heads up on that one.

For £300 this is an awesome deal.. HOT!
#14
mistry123
processor may be a little weak... am I right?


processor is fine.. dual core so can cope with more programs open at same time.. the speed however it processes at is rather slooooowwwww.. but hey £299 WOT DO U EXPECT
#15
sej7278
cold - 1.4ghz and 80gb is shameful, plus acer is a very naff manufacturer of everything, don't expect that laptop to still work in a year.


Ignorant opinion.

This machine ought to be at least as fast as a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4, (yes, even when only using one core) since the chip inside is based on the superb Intel Core technology.

80Gb is about entry level nowadays. Might be a little on the shy side if this is your main machine AND you use a lot of media, but it's a lot more space than you really give credit. (The boot drive of my main machine rarely goes over 60GB, and I keep all documents and most games in that space.)

Your mileage may vary with Acer. :|
#16
bought one just over 14 months ago.Now it won't boot(hard drive problem).Won't buy an Acer ever again.
#17
TheGimp;2053638
dude, get over it... I've an acer and have never had a problem... my bud had a hard drive issue which they fixed and returned to him in 2 weeks.

You should learn from your mistake and make sure that any deliveries that are to be picked up by DHL have sufficient packaging as this is obviously the underlying issue.

My gf's acer is picky with playing dvd's so I'm gonna post it back.. by reading your thread I think I'll put Vista back on it just to be safe so thanks for the heads up on that one.

For £300 this is an awesome deal.. HOT!



I'd rather give £300 to charity than buy an acer notebook, their service is dire, the build quality isnt much better, all well and good trying to get over it, but theres been some users on here that's had their fingers burnt with acer notebooks, i would strongly advise against purchasing an acer, product! theres lots more decent brands out there with better warranty cover and back up.
#18
blackster;2053815
I'd rather give £300 to charity than buy an acer notebook, their service is dire, the build quality isnt much better, all well and good trying to get over it, but theres been some users on here that's had their fingers burnt with acer notebooks, i would strongly advise against purchasing an acer, product! theres lots more decent brands out there with better warranty cover and back up.

You could say that of pretty much any manufacturer, very few have a flawless record (look at the amount of general 'refurbs' available or the whole xbox 360 dibacle), but people don't tend to spout such wild and unfounded generalism against a companies entire range of products. Like a previous poster said, get over it.
#19
Had two Acer of the new 5XXX series (BMW design) but both had a very noisy fan and failed within the first 4 weeks. Also, Acer will not run Windows XP or Linux without overheating. The Empower bloat-ware slows the laptop down to crawling speed but it needs to run with Vista to prevent the laptop from overheating. There is lots of evidence in forums about the overheating issue of the new Acer design (5XXXX and 7XXX series). Acer has never bothered to respond or do anything about it. I would never buy an Acer again. I am now happy with my Dell with same specs but bigger hard drive for £320 and I can run on it any Operating System of my choice. HP and Toshiba are also good or Lenovo for a little more money.
#20
My girlfriend bought an older one of these because they are cheap and she is always complaiing about it.

The 80GB drive is rubbish and cannot be upgraded as Acer do not give you a DVD with the OS on it. The recovery is on a partition on the hard drive. This is a cheap laptop but for her was a false economy.
#21
Hi
i agree with all the posts about Acer Laptops - worst ever , mine keeps overheating , sometimes just shuts down no warning

Acer dont want to know - terrible service - even worst laptop

NEVER AGAIN
#22
Thanks for the comments guys :)

I've a Acer Centrino Travelmate @ office for years now without any probs. Also, customer service @ Amazon is probably 'the best' and reassuring.
#23
I won one of these at Xmas from tescos its great
#24
wild_quinine
Ignorant opinion.

This machine ought to be at least as fast as a 2.8Ghz Pentium 4, (yes, even when only using one core) since the chip inside is based on the superb Intel Core technology.


don't call me ignorant when you come up with that kind of bull!!!!

my 3ghz pentium4/ht still beats the **** out of both my 1.86ghz t5600 core2duo machines.

and this p.o.s. is a pentium-d, its not even the original core duo or solo let alone core2duo.

put your brain into gear before calling people ignorant please.
#25
sej7278
don't call me ignorant when you come up with that kind of bull!!!!

my 3ghz pentium4/ht still beats the **** out of both my 1.86ghz t5600 core2duo machines.

and this p.o.s. is a pentium-d, its not even the original core duo or solo let alone core2duo.

put your brain into gear before calling people ignorant please.


The machine in question has a T2310, Which is indeed a Core technology derived processor.

Architecturally it has nothing to do with the pentium-d, which is a Netburst based CPU.

Who is ignorant now please?
#26
There are literally thousands of happy Acer customers out there, but as is the way with the internet it's those with the problems that prove to be far more vocal. I've heard a lot of complaints about Dell laptops too and funnily enough Dell and Acer are probably the most common/popular brands so you're likely to hear more complaints. It's the law of averages.

My sister has an Acer (on my recommendation) and she travels all over the world with it - she's a flight attendant for Emirates airlines - and it's survived all those plane journeys and baggage handling. It was a ~£700 model, though.
#27
sej7278
don't call me ignorant when you come up with that kind of bull!!!!

my 3ghz pentium4/ht still beats the **** out of both my 1.86ghz t5600 core2duo machines.

and this p.o.s. is a pentium-d, its not even the original core duo or solo let alone core2duo.

put your brain into gear before calling people ignorant please.


I'm afraid you have dug your own grave there, telling people not to call you ignorant and then blatantly proving yourself wrong. IF you knew what you were doing your Core2 would be running rings around your hot inefficient P4! In fact if you can figure out how to run some performance tests you would probably find that a total of 3.72GHz of efficient NON NETBURST architecture is way faster.. (with tweaking you could make that 6GHz total)

Good luck with the learning you need to do!
#28
PoisonJam
There are literally thousands of happy Acer customers out there, but as is the way with the internet it's those with the problems that prove to be far more vocal. I've heard a lot of complaints about Dell laptops too and funnily enough Dell and Acer are probably the most common/popular brands so you're likely to hear more complaints. It's the law of averages.

My sister has an Acer (on my recommendation) and she travels all over the world with it - she's a flight attendant for Emirates airlines - and it's survived all those plane journeys and baggage handling. It was a ~£700 model, though.

You need to stick to the facts. Has your sister got a 5XXX or 7XXX new design Gemstone? Probably not if she bought it some years ago. What I said about overheating and slow running applies only to the Gemstone 4XXX, 5XXX and 7XXX series (desined by BMW - black exterior and white interior) running under Windows Vista. The older Acer series which was supplied with Windows XP does not suffer from this problem. The Gemstone series cannot run with Windows XP because Acer does supports only Windows Vista which runs very slow on the lower end machines such as the one in this offer here.
#29
androo
I'm afraid you have dug your own grave there, telling people not to call you ignorant and then blatantly proving yourself wrong. IF you knew what you were doing your Core2 would be running rings around your hot inefficient P4! In fact if you can figure out how to run some performance tests you would probably find that a total of 3.72GHz of efficient NON NETBURST architecture is way faster.. (with tweaking you could make that 6GHz total)

Good luck with the learning you need to do!


its a pentium-d not a core: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Details.aspx?sSpec=SLAEC (well strictly a pentium dual core, but its nearer a pentium-d than a coreduo).

and if you really believe that a dual core means twice the gigahertz, then you need to come back to reality. for a lot of applications, a single core with higher clock is much better than a dual core with lower, irrespective of architecture, plus this laptop comes with vista home, which means no smp or 64-bit mode anyway!

as far as tweaking my core2duo's go, its a bit hard as one is a laptop, the other a mac mini, my pentium4 is a desktop so has all the niceties that offers, including an easy overclock to 3.3ghz during the winter :-D

i agree that a 3ghz p4 shouldn't be faster than say a 2.2ghz core2duo, but there's no arguing that my p4 (with hyperthreading) is faster than this pentium-d and my T5600's, i guess intel did a good job on the 3.0 prescott/3.2 extreme model p4's, like they did with the late model p3's (1ghz) and p2's (300mhz).

anyway, back on topic, this is a pretty low spec bit of kit, which explains the cheap price, but with acer build quality its a definite cold.
#30
pet2000
You need to stick to the facts.


Rude much?

I wasn't even addressing your post. I was just making a comment about my Acer experience in general.
#31
edi...good find, heat added.
#32
PoisonJam;2054598
There are literally thousands of happy Acer customers out there, but as is the way with the internet it's those with the problems that prove to be far more vocal. I've heard a lot of complaints about Dell laptops too and funnily enough Dell and Acer are probably the most common/popular brands so you're likely to hear more complaints. It's the law of averages.

True. Plus it always make me smile when people say how much better one brand is than another - when like in this case Dell produce a large amount of Acers laptops. Acer has very little of it's own manufacturing.
#33
PoisonJam;2053549
Better deal than the EEEPC unless you need the latter's tiny size.
...which is the whole point. I'm sure if you bought a desktop machine then you could get more bangs for your buck than this, but it would be slightly larger still!
#34
pibpob
...which is the whole point.


I wouldn't say it's the whole point...

The EEEPC is small but may people saw it as "affordable laptops for everyone", rather than just a smaller laptop. You could say some compromises were made for space saving (lower resolution, smaller screen, non-Windows OS as it's less powerful) but these could also be seen as cost cutting factors.
#35
sej7278
its a pentium-d not a core: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Details.aspx?sSpec=SLAEC (well strictly a pentium dual core, but its nearer a pentium-d than a coreduo).


NO.

You're being mislead by Intels marketing nomenclature. The T2310 is based on the Core 2 Merom Core. The Pentium D is a pair of Netburst cores clagged together.


Compare and contrast

http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/31651903.pdf

and

http://download.intel.com/design/PentiumXE/datashts/31030607.pdf

The Pentium dual core is a Core2 duo with less L2 cache, slower FSB and no 64 bit support..
#36
I had an Acer Extensa. The good thing about Acers is you get a lot for your money, it had a LG TFT, Seagate HDD, and LG DVD RW/RAM. The bad is the one I had was poor build quality, the keyboard had a uneven feel, there was a lot of flex on the casing and I had heard bad things about how they treat the warranty repairs. I excahnged it for a Vostro 1500 and the bulid quality is top, but the screen is a little naff but overall I am happy. Dell cost £325 for C2D 1.4Ghz, 2GB ram, 120GB HDD, Brightview, Next day business warranty. I would wait for a decent dell deal instead of this Acer.
#37
expiring the deal. Price is 329.99 now
#38
sej7278
its a pentium-d not a core: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Details.aspx?sSpec=SLAEC (well strictly a pentium dual core, but its nearer a pentium-d than a coreduo).

and if you really believe that a dual core means twice the gigahertz, then you need to come back to reality. for a lot of applications, a single core with higher clock is much better than a dual core with lower, irrespective of architecture, plus this laptop comes with vista home, which means no smp or 64-bit mode anyway!

as far as tweaking my core2duo's go, its a bit hard as one is a laptop, the other a mac mini, my pentium4 is a desktop so has all the niceties that offers, including an easy overclock to 3.3ghz during the winter :-D

i agree that a 3ghz p4 shouldn't be faster than say a 2.2ghz core2duo, but there's no arguing that my p4 (with hyperthreading) is faster than this pentium-d and my T5600's, i guess intel did a good job on the 3.0 prescott/3.2 extreme model p4's, like they did with the late model p3's (1ghz) and p2's (300mhz).

anyway, back on topic, this is a pretty low spec bit of kit, which explains the cheap price, but with acer build quality its a definite cold.


Dual core does mean twice the processing potential, yes some apps are single threaded (some very rare instances the 3ghz P4 might be quicker in a strait line compared to your 1.8Ghz C2D, with many variables to that statement), do you know what your magical Hyper threading means? Do you even know why it was needed in the 1st place?

I'm sorry you really do think you know what you are on about, you try your best and well done, but don’t try to teach others please!

"a single core with higher clock is much better than a dual core with lower, irrespective of architecture" You fooooool fooooooool foooooooooool. Bend over and take it, the P4 was a sh*t CPU. You may not realise it, but every technical person working for Intel knows it! As a former Intel employee I can tell you from the Inside!

And I could have put money on you saying how great the Prescott P4 is, do you want the truth about that design, do you really? I think you couldn’t handle the FACTS! Go do your research and see why you are very wrong. I will start you off.. What is the length of the pipeline in a Prescott Vs a Northwood, and at what GHz does that length pipeline become viable/beneficial and not a hindrance to performance in the event of the wrong data being in that pipeline? You are arguing with someone who knows more about CPU architecture than yourself I’m afraid.
Icing on the cake though it how you think the NETBURST architechure of the P4 Northwood or Prescott is related to the Core! The Core is more related to the P3!!! ‘But Intel call it a Pentium, it must be similar architecture!’ LOL.

Why is your P4 faster in your opinion than your Core2, well there are so many hardware and software variables involved, motherboard chipset, hard drive, RAM, what AV software you run, what apps run in the background the list goes on, please stop your misinformation.

Please reply with another laughable response that highlights your lack of understanding.
:thumbsup:
#39
msharif911
My girlfriend bought an older one of these because they are cheap and she is always complaiing about it.

The 80GB drive is rubbish and cannot be upgraded as Acer do not give you a DVD with the OS on it. The recovery is on a partition on the hard drive. This is a cheap laptop but for her was a false economy.


The recovery partition is a part of the recovery application that comes pre-installed on Acers. You are given the option to create a recovery on media (dvd), which I recommend everyone does as even HP are doing this with their laptops. So...you can upgrade the hard drive.

As for Acer customer service. I've dealt with them many times...some good experiences, some not so good. Same with other companies like HP. Their service is usually of the highest standard but sometimes you won't get that - all depends on who is dealing with the enquiries. From a techie point of view I usually find the customer support battle of who is better is between Acer and Dell as both are known to deliver both good and bad service.

I don't think Acer give cheap components - most of the time I find the lifespan of a laptop depends on how well the customer treats it.
#40
drasim
The recovery partition is a part of the recovery application that comes pre-installed on Acers. You are given the option to create a recovery on media (dvd), which I recommend everyone does as even HP are doing this with their laptops. So...you can upgrade the hard drive.

As for Acer customer service. I've dealt with them many times...some good experiences, some not so good. Same with other companies like HP. Their service is usually of the highest standard but sometimes you won't get that - all depends on who is dealing with the enquiries. From a techie point of view I usually find the customer support battle of who is better is between Acer and Dell as both are known to deliver both good and bad service.

I don't think Acer give cheap components - most of the time I find the lifespan of a laptop depends on how well the customer treats it.


I agree entirely, I do have friends that used to work in the Acer repair centre, enough said about that though!
The machines are better than the budget rubbish and eMachies/ Advent and the like that PC World have the nevrve to con people into buying!

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