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ADSL2+, £8.00/month instead of £14 @ BeThere

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The perfect product for light users, but not light on features.

Unleash unlimited broadband. Download life at will. Be how you want to be.

Up to 8 meg download speed

Unlimited usage

Upload speed up to 1.3 meg

£8 for the rest of 2008, then £14 a month

£24 connection fee (free if you are recommended by existing Be user. PM me if you want me to reccommend you plus £40 ot top of this via TopCashBack or Quidco)

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A subject close to my broadband heart! I'm an o2 broadband subscriber since Oct 2007 here. Be & o2 are part of Telefónica Europe and selling similiar, but NOT identical, products.

This Be offer is not really a bargain unless you are determined to buy a 'Be' branded product as most people would be better off with the probably better o2 branded ADSL2+ service (delivered over the mostly same shared Be/o2 infrastructure) which can be got for £7.50/m (+£40/yr to top up an o2 mobile PAYG phone if necessary) ie £130/1stYr + £7.50m ongoing (+£3.33/m at £10/qtr)

This offer means £8 for say 4 months but £14 for the other 8 = £144/1stYr +£14/m ongoing.

There are Be signup costs (unless referred, but then you miss out on up to £35 cashback to save your £24 connection fee) and potential cashback for o2/Be to complicate the price/value calculation of course. The Be package has a 12 month PAID minimum term (ie you're committed to making 12 months subs even if you left after 1 month!), whereas the o2 has 12m contract BUT you can leave early paying £50. etc etc etc.

Best to checkout my latest summary of Be and o2 Home Broadband offerings at:
http://cid-99aa6cf1226facfe.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/o2%20Broadband%20-v-%20Be%20There%20Broadband
or the 'tiny url' for that address http://tinyurl.com/5mzmrs
and have a look in the ThinkBroadband forums (links in the document) as both the Be & o2 branded services have a mostly very happy customer base.
#2
agree with mk-donald
#3
Thanks mk-donald. I'm on BE at the moment, it's absolutely top-notch, but if I can get the same thing for less maybe I should switch to O2.

Do you know if they allow you to switch from BE to O2 as it's the same network?

Also, how did you calculate the £40/year PAYG price? (I'm not an O2 customer at the moment).
#4
Anyone else needs a recommendation then PM me!

Thanks,

Steve
#5
I am now thinking of applying one.

Anyone can recommend me the best deal.

I would like to have unlimited download and contract duration last for one year.

Is Tiscali alright? I searched through the web and found out it offered the cheapest package.
#6
BE are one of the few companies who dont throttle bandwidth at any point unlike the others who claim unlimited downloads. If you read the T&C's under the Fair usage policies there's normally restrictions of some kind.

BE has been the best ISP I have used to date and I've been happy since signing up 3 years ago.
#7
nick_sub
Thanks mk-donald. I'm on BE at the moment, it's absolutely top-notch, but if I can get the same thing for less maybe I should switch to O2.

Do you know if they allow you to switch from BE to O2 as it's the same network?

Also, how did you calculate the £40/year PAYG price? (I'm not an O2 customer at the moment).


Nicksub - I was on BE, I had no problems switching to O2, so you should be fine.
banned#8
Tiscali arent too bad, although it cost me a ten quid phone call to get set up (I should have looked for an alternative number instead of using the 0845 one). I was originally going to go with talk talk but the customer service guy put me on hold and then hung up on me!
Tiscali is a 12 month contract 9.99 for the first 3, 30 quid set up, supposedly unlimited but a rigid 'fair use policy' is in place which will mess you up if you cant get around it.
#9
If you sign up yourself through Quidco you can earn £40 cash back (in 3 months) so you'll get your connection fee back plus some, and yes I am a subscriber and could have jumped on the "I'll recommend you" band wagon to gain myself a free month. Personally I'd go for the quidco cashback. http://www.quidco.com/bethere-co-uk/
#10
mk-donald

This Be offer is not really a bargain unless you are determined to buy a 'Be' branded product as most people would be better off with the probably better o2 branded ADSL2+ service (delivered over the mostly same shared Be/o2 infrastructure) which can be got for £7.50/m (+£40/yr to top up an o2 mobile PAYG phone if necessary) ie £130/1stYr + £7.50m ongoing (+£3.33/m at £10/qtr)

This offer means £8 for say 4 months but £14 for the other 8 = £144/1stYr +£14/m ongoing.

There are Be signup costs (unless referred, but then you miss out on up to £35 cashback to save your £24 connection fee) and potential cashback for o2/Be to complicate the price/value calculation of course. The Be package has a 12 month PAID minimum term (ie you're committed to making 12 months subs even if you left after 1 month!), whereas the o2 has 12m contract BUT you can leave early paying £50. etc etc etc.


Meh. I'm with Be Unlimited and £18 per month for truly unlimited usage, and speeds around 14mbps, is a pretty amazing deal imho.

3 months notice to cancel- so no £50 fee (one of the reasons I haven't switched to O2 is the 12 month contract). Also no O2 mobile so I'd have to spend more time / money hassle topping up PAYG handset.

So I think Be wins for me in this situation.

Btw- anyone else on Be affected by the network issues yesterday? I couldn't get to Google (and Gmail!!) HUKD OR Quidco. Rest of net was fine lol.
#11
domparikh
Btw- anyone else on Be affected by the network issues yesterday? I couldn't get to Google (and Gmail!!) HUKD OR Quidco. Rest of net was fine lol.


yeah it was on their status page. Seems fine now barring a few peoples exchanges.
#12
No troubles here...

btw: If anyone wants a free month on BE - find a friend on BE or PM me :thumbsup:
#13
Be are probably the best broadband provider in the uk at the moment. O2 are probably second, although Be are actually a sub branch of O2 iirc.
#14
Mascherano
Tiscali arent too bad, although it cost me a ten quid phone call to get set up (I should have looked for an alternative number instead of using the 0845 one). I was originally going to go with talk talk but the customer service guy put me on hold and then hung up on me!
Tiscali is a 12 month contract 9.99 for the first 3, 30 quid set up, supposedly unlimited but a rigid 'fair use policy' is in place which will mess you up if you cant get around it.


I have been on Tiscali before, It was the worst decision of my life. So much hassle. I might have been unlucky, but on there forums, hundreds of people were complaining about the same issue. They ended up disconnecting me for no reason!!
#15
Mudslide
If you sign up yourself through Quidco you can earn £40 cash back (in 3 months) so you'll get your connection fee back plus some, and yes I am a subscriber and could have jumped on the "I'll recommend you" band wagon to gain myself a free month. Personally I'd go for the quidco cashback. http://www.quidco.com/bethere-co-uk/


I did this about 12 months ago, then O2 came onto the scene. I then got quidco from O2 as well. Might be a option for people?
#16
I'm quite happy with Sky right now, and at £10 per month for 16Mb it's good value - BUT it's not that stable/reliable, so I might change to Be sometime soon, as I will eventually get away from Sky altogether some day.
banned#17
i am on sky as well, they are pretty good, havent had any problems with their service at all, £10 p/month 16 mb, 1.6 to 1.9 mb p/sec download speed, but you need the tv package which comes out at min £15 a /month.

works out to be £25 a month with some channels and sky +, so all in all i think the sky package is quite good.
#18
I have been with Be for over two years now and think they are great. Was originally on their unlimited package (24MB speed) and am now on the value pack which is more than fast enough.

PM me if you want me to recommend you.
1 Like #19
The only bad thing about Be (speaking as a current customer) is their DNS. It's truly terrible*.
Switch to a provider like OpenDNS, and you'll be fine.

Every other part of the Be 'experience' is truly wonderful. I can almost forgive their poor DNS performance!!


* I used to run 24/7 monitoring that would chart 'net performance (DNS lookup, ping latency, packet loss). Be's DNS servers were always significantly worse that the others on my monitoring. A large amount of the time DNS lookup latency would be 200-400ms. Switch DNS provider (as I suggest) and you can get that back down to 12-30ms.
#20
How about Virgin??

Is it another good deal?
#21
yannie_84
How about Virgin??

Is it another good deal?


virgin fine as long as you dont mind them cappin you
#22
yannie_84
How about Virgin??

Is it another good deal?


Don't go near them if you can get good ADSL coverage. Virgin SERIOUSLY throttle your connection. Between the hours of about 4pam and 10pm (sometimes more), you get less than 30% of your actual connection speed. I remember being on their 20Mbit service and when they throttled me, it actually dropped to around 500kbps! Sometimes it even dropped to less than DIALUP.
Plus their customer service is god awful.



P.S. I'm another little being here, so if anyone wants a referrer for a free connection, feel free to PM me any time =)
#23
BE are great, customer service is good, no download limit and best of all up to 1.3Mb/s upload. If you run a "slingbox" they are the best. All for £14/month.
#24
I'm with BE and agree that they're great but I'm starting to wonder why anyone would be with BE when you can get the same thing with 02 for less. Accorsing to thinkbroadband ratings, their customer service is even better than BE's. I think I might make the switch.


Thanks Keith for your reply.
#25
nick_sub
I'm with BE and agree that they're great but I'm starting to wonder why anyone would be with BE when you can get the same thing with 02 for less. Accorsing to thinkbroadband ratings, their customer service is even better than BE's. I think I might make the switch.


Thanks Keith for your reply.


I suppose the old adage goes "if it ain't broke....". Plus I think O2 is only better value if you're an O2 mobile customer. For some people, that just isn't an option, but if it is then yeah, you're probably better off.
#26
Yeah, actually that is a good philiosophy to use with broadband!

But by my calculations I'd be £18 a year better off even not as an o2 customer.

If I got a payg sim and paid the minimum £10/quarter top up I'd be £38 up even if I didn't use it.

...plus £25 quidco.

But my BE ain't broke, and never has been!
#27
Another thumbs up for Be from me. We're on their top package, and I get a consistant 17Mb/s downstream (we are pretty close to the dslam though). SMS updates on service connection and billing availability is also a nice touch.

Can't vouch directly on the 8Mb package, but I've been very happy with them over all. Also, and I suspect this depends on locality - have a look around for free connection codes - we celebrated getting connection up and running with a pizza - only to find a free connection deal on the pizza box :-)

One last thing, unlike a lot of ISPs, Be expect their equipment back at the end, it's not made massively clear, but if you don't return the BeBox at the end of your agreement with them, they bill you another £100 (not sure if this is still the case, but it is on our contract - certainly worth reading the T&C closely).

Also (definitely last thing!) - agree with previous poster on Be's DNS, switching to opendns made a big difference here - more so for general browsing than downloading single large files (as one would expect).

Ryan
#28
im an o2 broadband subccriber and i believe o2 are provided by be there. EXCELLENT price and service for what you get ... voted hot
highly recommended.
#29
Not strictly about Be/O2 but I would be grateful if anyone could help here...

2 x O2 mobile contracts ending in 2-3 months. If I didn't get a good retention deal and had to go through the farce of porting out to another provider then porting back to O2 to o so, would I still be ok with O2 broadband as long as at least 1 contract was still live with them?

If I had to port out and and at some point therefore didn't have any live contracts with O2, would I be ok as long as I bought an O2 PAYG and registered this against the broadband connection.

Thanks,
#30
nick_sub
Thanks mk-donald. I'm on BE at the moment, it's absolutely top-notch, but if I can get the same thing for less maybe I should switch to O2.

Do you know if they allow you to switch from BE to O2 as it's the same network?

Also, how did you calculate the £40/year PAYG price? (I'm not an O2 customer at the moment).


Had e, whilst living in London and the were super however swopped the smoke for a quieter life in the country and they have not arrived here yet, however im with adsl24 and they too are wonderful.
#31
I pay £18 a month for my Be Unlimited connection. I get around the clock speeds of 22MB/s and I download over 300Gb a month, Be doesn't seem to mind. Trust me, Be is awesome.
#32
like all isp quote a hi speed unlike a lot of isp they dont mind if u actually use the speed to d/l
#33
22MB D/L speed? Er I dont think so
.

Im sorry to disagree but i am on bethere pro and these are my stats:
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 2,238 / 19,366
I used to have 24MB D/L but decided to slow my d/l speed and speed up my u/l, I download from newsgroups and always reach my max speed.
#34
guv
Fairly certain you cannot have the free connection, Quidco AND friend recommendation. (Quidco is your referrer.)



22MB D/L speed? Er I dont think so.


you do realise that these speeds are quite achievable these days? I have virgin broadband (formerly NTL) and I get 18mb down
#35
I would look at this, if I didn't get my free Broadband from BT.
#36
yannie_84
How about Virgin??

Is it another good deal?


Its total luck of the draw. Good area, its fine. Bad area, and you'll utterly regret signing a 12 month contract as support is useless.
#37
Last month i downloaded about 1.4tb and never got bothered it was a one off month though usually do 500gig. Used to be with nildram until they changed there fair usuage policy, still wish i lived in Sweden fibre optic cables all round.
#38
kevyn
you do realise that these speeds are quite achievable these days? I have virgin broadband (formerly NTL) and I get 18mb down


Virgin is cable and not ADSL. You should always acheive the maximum speed on cable wherever you are as it it fibre. ADSL depends on line length and quality. Been able only to acheive at best 3.2 to 3.5 MB on Adsl, Cable is a god send to me as it gives me speeds i could never acheive on ADSL. It is all swings and roundabouts and there is a lot of factors as to which service is best for you. Even with the virgin cap i still get faster speeds than ADSL during the cap hours. With virgin sometimes i can get a steady 23Mbs in the quieter periods
#39
Am i right in thinking that the O2 offer is only available if they have unbundled the network? If so Be is the best option then?
#40
Be and O2 are the same company really, so they should both be available in the same areas.

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