ADVENT Monza N1 Refurbished 15.6" Laptop - Red 6gb ram 500gbhdd £229 @ Currys - HotUKDeals
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6gb ram and 500gb hdd.
£260 on Dixons and pcworld websites, £308 @ pixmania delivered.
Anybody any views on the processor, and make etc of this for the money?
I have a Dell vostro 1000 amd athlon x2 processor with 2gb ram running windows vista,will I see much difference in performance?
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3 Likes #1
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
#2
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Edited By: kramvic on Aug 25, 2012 20:44: found
#3
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

They seem to use the cheapest crap materials available.
#4
THRILLER-DEEJAY
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

They seem to use the cheapest crap materials available.

The last advent I seen was made of papier mâché.
#5
JoeBoy88
THRILLER-DEEJAY
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

They seem to use the cheapest crap materials available.

The last advent I seen was made of papier mâché.
But all the hdd, processor, etc will be branded is it just the case and keyboard that are made of poor quality stuff?
#6
I've had an ADVENT roma3000 for about 2 years now.
Works perfectly and never had one problem
. :p

Edited By: Pluun on Aug 26, 2012 02:17: Removed what I really think of Trolls.
#7
Had my old Advent for over a decade, was rock solid and never let me down. Too many people talking about things they know nothing about.
#8
Just ordered one for uni! Will get an SSD for this and it should be good to go ;)
#9
JJMPSP
Just ordered one for uni! Will get an SSD for this and it should be good to go ;)

I just got a Samsung 256 for about £146 and £20 cashback.
Hope to put it into the new Toshiba that I've just won when I work up the courage.
#10
Pluun
JJMPSP
Just ordered one for uni! Will get an SSD for this and it should be good to go ;)

I just got a Samsung 256 for about £146 and £20 cashback.
Hope to put it into the new Toshiba that I've just won when I work up the courage.

Nice, I'm only willing to spend £70 on an SSD though :P
#11
JJMPSP
Pluun
JJMPSP
Just ordered one for uni! Will get an SSD for this and it should be good to go ;)

I just got a Samsung 256 for about £146 and £20 cashback.
Hope to put it into the new Toshiba that I've just won when I work up the courage.

Nice, I'm only willing to spend £70 on an SSD though :P

Probably a 128 then.
Get one with a kit though as you will probably need a USB to SATA cable.
Also, if you get one with an enclosure you can keep the old drive in it as an external although it's not compulsory to keep it in one.
Good luck.
1 Like #12
Well, the problem with 'most' advent machines is the build quality and materials.

But that is why they are cheaper than the branded partners.

They are like the Aldi brand of beans compared to the HP Sauce type.

Both are beans, but would will notice the difference.

Not knocking the deal tho, still not bad.
The CPU put put me off.
#13
Chiptivo
Well, the problem with 'most' advent machines is the build quality and materials.

But that is why they are cheaper than the branded partners.

They are like the Aldi brand of beans compared to the HP Sauce type.

Both are beans, but would will notice the difference.

Not knocking the deal tho, still not bad.
The CPU put put me off.

I have Fujitsu-Siemens, Advent and Toshiba laptops and an ASUS netbook.
I have no idea what CPU's they have but all have performed perfectly for my needs.
If I hadn't spilled rum n coke on the fujitsu and won the pools soon after, I'd still be using that but I bought the Advent.
I have just recently won the Toshiba so I now use the Advent as a "daytime" pc and the Tosh as an "evening" one when I'm in front of the telly.

If I had the knowledge to know which CPU was best and I could afford it, I'd probably go for it but I don't think the average user would NEED the best available.
Maybe a gamer or high end photo manipulating pc but too many people "obsess" about performance.
< Wouldn't be suprised if half the "performance trolls" wern't accessing HUKD on a Sinclair Spectrum and living in a dream world. (_;)
#14
If you thinking of portability, it's quite heavy with 2.8kg. Most newer kaptops are less than 2.3kg (it believe me, 0.5kg make a huge difference when you have to carry). Battery life would be another concern.

I have a Dell vostro 1000 amd athlon x2 processor with 2gb ram running windows vista,will I see much difference in performance?
No! (if you run Vista in Basic mode, performance will be almost the same).


Edited By: pet2000 on Aug 26, 2012 07:34
#15
pet2000
If you thinking of portability, it's quite heavy with 2.8kg. Most newer kaptops are less than 2.3kg (it believe me, 0.5kg make a huge difference when you have to carry). Battery life would be another concern.

I have a Dell vostro 1000 amd athlon x2 processor with 2gb ram running windows vista,will I see much difference in performance?
No! (if you run Vista in Basic mode, performance will be almost the same).

Thanks for that pet2000, that's just made my decision for me.
#16
yep - too many people obsessed with performance - it's horses for courses ....

If I had to buy a new laptop for my old Dad this would be ideal - just for email / web / word processing and viewing / printing photos. These taks dont need a quad core CPU and 8GB of RAM and dedicated graphics !

He never takes it out of the home and uses it maybe for 30 mins at a time before recharging.

So for not much over £200 with warranty and an LED lit HD screen you can't go wrong :)

EliTom
#17
I've had my advent for 5 years now. It runs a little slow but it was cheap when I bought it (about £400) so can't complain
1 Like #18
I'd stay well clear from an advent,i had no end of problems with mine,they're rubbish,better to spend a bit more and buy a decent one.
#19
Out of stock
#20
kramvic
But all the hdd, processor, etc will be branded is it just the case and keyboard that are made of poor quality stuff?
Yes, just all the stuff that is at most risk of breaking (hinges, power socket, mouse buttons).
#21
OOS
#22
pet2000
If you thinking of portability, it's quite heavy with 2.8kg. Most newer kaptops are less than 2.3kg (it believe me, 0.5kg make a huge difference when you have to carry). Battery life would be another concern
Most laptops are 2.5kg actually. And that is without charger and measured with the smaller battery (6 cell usually for laptops).
Talking about battery life without having any info or arguments is kind of pointless.
#23
Back in stock!
#24
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Advent are generally very poor, I'm speaking from experience as a laptop refurbisher. I die a little inside everytime we get one in lol. Oh F**k it's an Advent :(

Edited By: fishmaster on Aug 27, 2012 09:21
#25
Chiptivo

They are like the Aldi brand of beans compared to the HP Sauce type.

Both are beans, but would will notice the difference.

Wrong analogy. A better one would be finding that your unbranded computer contained top quality components because the company took less of a profit margin, had better stock control and didn't indulge in ludicrously expensive and patronising advertising campaigns.

You can't sell crap twice, particularly on stuff you buy weekly and can actually remember how bad it was!
#26
fishmaster
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Advent are generally very poor, I'm speaking from experience as a laptop refurbisher. I die a little inside everytime we get one in lol. Oh F**k it's an Advent :(

ADVENT are great !
I'm speaking from experience of using one for AT LEAST 10 hours a day, every day for about 2 years with not one problem.
Mind you, the battery life is garbage but as it's on mains all the time that is no problem to me at all.
And also from experience of seeing Trolls who have never even turned one on, spouting on how bad they are just to get some kudos from "looking" like they know something. (_;)

Edited By: Pluun on Aug 27, 2012 12:29
1 Like #27
Three words to put me off...

Advent
Refurbished
AMD
#28
Faythur
Three words to put me off...

Advent
Refurbished
AMD

And how many Avents have you owned?
#29
Pluun
fishmaster
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Advent are generally very poor, I'm speaking from experience as a laptop refurbisher. I die a little inside everytime we get one in lol. Oh F**k it's an Advent :(

ADVENT are great !
I'm speaking from experience of using one for AT LEAST 10 hours a day, every day for about 2 years with not one problem.
Mind you, the battery life is garbage but as it's on mains all the time that is no problem to me at all.
And also from experience of seeing Trolls who have never even turned one on, spouting on how bad they are just to get some kudos from "looking" like they know something. (_;)

Advent's can be anything, they can be MSI, Shuttle, Cleovo etc, many are a pile of cheap crap. I speak from experience. After refurbishing 100s of them. Quantum and Modena models are especially poor.
#30
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!
#31
Pluun
Faythur
Three words to put me off...

Advent
Refurbished
AMD

And how many Avents have you owned?

NONE! [either Avents or Advents (_;) ]

I have more sense :p

Like others though, I have had the unfortunate experience working on a few, and ALL OF THEM were rubbish!

Just how much more convincing do you need?
Here's a review of this particular model

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/laptops-portable-pcs/laptops-and-netbooks/advent-monza-e1-1039861/review

Quote: "Advent is very hard to recommend"
#32
fishmaster
Pluun
fishmaster
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Advent are generally very poor, I'm speaking from experience as a laptop refurbisher. I die a little inside everytime we get one in lol. Oh F**k it's an Advent :(

ADVENT are great !
I'm speaking from experience of using one for AT LEAST 10 hours a day, every day for about 2 years with not one problem.
Mind you, the battery life is garbage but as it's on mains all the time that is no problem to me at all.
And also from experience of seeing Trolls who have never even turned one on, spouting on how bad they are just to get some kudos from "looking" like they know something. (_;)

Advent's can be anything, they can be MSI, Shuttle, Cleovo etc, many are a pile of cheap crap. I speak from experience. After refurbishing 100s of them. Quantum and Modena models are especially poor.

Maybe you'd prefer a Toshiba?

ops, sorry, my new Toshiba ( which MUST be better than an old Advent) (_;) "only) has 2 USB's and not even usb2! :p
oh, and a slower, by 33% processor
#33
Mineores
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!

Ah yeah forgot about Roma, that's another pile of crap to add to the list :)
#34
Pluun
fishmaster
Pluun
fishmaster
kramvic
Chiptivo
Not a bad price, but shame it is an advent..
Any other make, I would have had it.
are they that bad?

Advent are generally very poor, I'm speaking from experience as a laptop refurbisher. I die a little inside everytime we get one in lol. Oh F**k it's an Advent :(

ADVENT are great !
I'm speaking from experience of using one for AT LEAST 10 hours a day, every day for about 2 years with not one problem.
Mind you, the battery life is garbage but as it's on mains all the time that is no problem to me at all.
And also from experience of seeing Trolls who have never even turned one on, spouting on how bad they are just to get some kudos from "looking" like they know something. (_;)

Advent's can be anything, they can be MSI, Shuttle, Cleovo etc, many are a pile of cheap crap. I speak from experience. After refurbishing 100s of them. Quantum and Modena models are especially poor.

Maybe you'd prefer a Toshiba?

ops, sorry, my new Toshiba ( which MUST be better than an old Advent) (_;) "only) has 2 USB's and not even usb2! :p
oh, and a slower, by 33% processor

Any new machine will have a minimum of USB 2.0 otherwise it will have USB 3.0 and I haven't seen a new machine that has USB 3.0 and doesn't have USB 2.0. I suggest you look at your USB devices in device manager and you'll see Enhanced USB controller/s which is USB 2.0. USB 3.0 root hubs are listed in the device manager too.

Edited By: fishmaster on Aug 27, 2012 14:59
#35
fishmaster
Mineores
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!

Ah yeah forgot about Roma, that's another pile of crap to add to the list :)

and the 3 billy goats gruff went over the ricketty rocketty bridge........
#36
Pluun
fishmaster
Mineores
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!

Ah yeah forgot about Roma, that's another pile of crap to add to the list :)

and the 3 billy goats gruff went over the ricketty rocketty bridge........

I'm in no way being a Troll. I'm stating fact. I refurb laptops, what experience do you have? None since you don't even know what USB version is on your laptop. I'm trying to be helpful. The Roma, Quantum and Modena are awful laptops, that is fact.

Edited By: fishmaster on Aug 27, 2012 18:21
banned#37
Pluun
fishmaster
Mineores
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!

Ah yeah forgot about Roma, that's another pile of crap to add to the list :)

and the 3 billy goats gruff went over the ricketty rocketty bridge........

it's like with chinese cars.

you don't have to actually own one to know they're crap.

Edited By: kunyk on Aug 27, 2012 20:01
#38
fishmaster
Pluun
fishmaster
Mineores
Hummm, Advent... I have an Advent Roma which is pretty awlful, I have to use an external keyboard because the inbuilt one is a pile of crap and has loads of flex, the track pad is also awful and Intel Celeron is terrible. Oh yeah the battery life is non existence for mine, always has been, I am just glad it was a pass down from my grandparents and I didn't pay £350 for it like they did a couple of years ago. It only has 3 USB ports for some reason, and one of them is in a very awkward place which means it is hard to get larger USB things in...
The only saving grace is that it has 4gb of RAM, which means it can be quite speedy with web browsing and such but the processing speed is rubbish.

Another thing: I get about 10 BSOD errors a day, which is very frustrating, and have tried everything to fix it, as I am quite techy, I'll be glad when I have bought the rest of the components for my next PC and have that built, rather than put up with this garbage for any longer.

It is what you should expect from the equivalent of Asda value brand, but in PC world!

Ah yeah forgot about Roma, that's another pile of crap to add to the list :)

and the 3 billy goats gruff went over the ricketty rocketty bridge........

I'm in no way being a Troll. I'm stating fact. I refurb laptops, what experience do you have? None since you don't even know what USB version is on your laptop. I'm trying to be helpful. The Roma, Quantum and Modena are awful laptops, that is fact.

1st, for Faythur.
Thank you for the review link>>>>>>>> "Keenly priced and well made".<<<<<<<<
The words "Shot" and "own foot" come to mind.
Pity, as you were probably aiming for your head. :p

Now, Yes, I was wrong about the USB's but only because Toshiba ( Never my first choice of equipment) couldn't be assed to list them on the box, so I naturally assumed they were old style.

Also,as you MUST have seen me claim to have THREE laptops and a netbook, I can only think your altzheimers has kicked in when you mistakenly say I have no experience of laptops.

Even a Mackem would not say that one mistake over something the manufacturer couldn't be assed to inform me of, rates me as not having any experience of laptops.

And "refurbishing 100's"?
From the ammount of work you "claim" to have done and your attitude it looks very much like you work at Pee World.
After all, where else would you have so much "experience" of Advents?
And "refurbished"?
Do you mean making sure all the bits have been rerturned and in the box because it was only returned due to the customer not knowing how it works?
Or reinstalling the OS?
Or the really hard, technical bit, undoing a few screws to open it up and replace a dodgy HD, RAM or fan?

Funny how so many people "claim" to have worked on these.
Please excuse me for thinking they are just liars, trying to justify their deceit.

But you know what's the clincher for me?
Someone "claims" to refurb laptops and says these are the pits but hasn't the sense to realise that ALL the other laptops they get in to refurb ( count and repack) must also be as bad as the Advent ones, or they wouldn't also need "refurbing".
And don't forget,at Pee World, you are probably the only place an Advent is sent for repair ( repack).
Now, bearing in mind, the kindly supplied review "Keenly priced and well made" ( ty again Faythur) and the abnormal use ( over 10 hours a day, most days for 2 years) with NOT ONE FAULT........please continue trying to tell me my Roma 3000 is garbage.

Your job must be easier now they come with a rescue partition and no CD to count back into the box.
1 Like #39
I just received mine.
First impressions: Very happy.

It came without it's original box. Charger and battery seems to be new though. The performance of this laptop is very decent for the price imo. I'll probably end up buying an SSD for around 70/80 quid, and this laptop should be good to go :)

Here are the performance ratings (I ran the tests with google chrome, and a few tabs open, although I doubt that would make much of a difference):

http://i50.tinypic.com/2edbbm8.png

Thank you OP. I just saved myself quite a lot of money for uni :D
#40
Update: It's now getting hot pretty quickly, and the mouse is lagging across the screen. Can I still return this? My uni course starts in 4 days :|

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