Advent Powerline Ethernet adapter Powerline Home Networking (85mbps) £18.99 @ PC World (In Store) - HotUKDeals
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Only 85mbps but still OK for most people...
Simply Plug and Play to create a network throughout your home. Uses existing electrical wiring and operates at speeds up to 85mbps.

* Create a network through your home
* Simply Plug and Play
* Uses homes existing electrical wiring
* Operates at speeds up to 85mbps
* Up to 300m range
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#1
do you need to buy 2 of these? (one to plug with router and one to the pc?0
thanks
#2
kashi
do you need to buy 2 of these? (one to plug with router and one to the pc?0
thanks


Yes you do...
#3
You need to buy adapters if you are creating a new bridge, then additional for other areas of the house where its required. I think 85mbps is OK, my BT router and PC only does 100mbps, so should be fine for most if you are not doing lots of HD streaming.

I think these are a good price and much better than using wireless, especially for online gaming with XBOX and PS3. Thats my experience anyway.
#4
These are known as homeplugs and do work well, but make sure you plug them directly into the wall. They seem to lose signal strength (and therefore speed) if you run them off a power extension cable.

If you want a faster connection for media streaming around the house you can pick up 200mbps homeplugs for £40 + VAT each from http://www.homeplugs.co.uk/
#5
hondar
You need to buy adapters if you are creating a new bridge, then additional for other areas of the house where its required. I think 85mbps is OK, my BT router and PC only does 100mbps, so should be fine for most if you are not doing lots of HD streaming.

I think these are a good price and much better than using wireless, especially for online gaming with XBOX and PS3. Thats my experience anyway.


I'd agree with that - homeplugs don't drop signal like wireless and there's no signal outside the house so it is more secure.
#6
Hi,

I already have some powerline adaptors set up around the home (a different brand) from Maplins - can you simply add these? or do they need to be the same brand/type?

Thanks
#7
We use these at home to share the ADSL2 and they are great, much more reliable than WiFi. As mentioned before, plug them directly into the wall. Also, I found that my TV signal booster interferred with it somehow!? If you are just using these to share broadband then 85mbps should be more than enough.
#8
Spod;3398841
......and there's no signal outside the house so it is more secure.


Really? What stops your data traveling along the cable to the main outside and then on to your neighbours house? You still need to use data encryption with these devices.
#9
I'm also assuming that the plugs you plug these into have to be on the same fuse/circuit in order for them to work?

i.e. at the moment I have a wireless network that has weak signals to the upstairs of the house, given that the sockets upstairs and downstairs are on different fuses/circuits these aren't going to help me at all?!?
#10
TheProf
Really? What stops your data traveling along the cable to the main outside and then on to your neighbours house? You still need to use data encryption with these devices.


Data won't leave you ring main. Stops at your fuse box.
#11
TheProf;3399261
Really? What stops your data traveling along the cable to the main outside and then on to your neighbours house? You still need to use data encryption with these devices.


Probably the fact that next door is usually on a different phase of the supply.
#12
Uridium
Data won't leave you ring main. Stops at your fuse box.

Rubbish. Distance weakens the signal and as said, next door is commonly on a different phase; but there's no guarantee of privacy. Encryption is usually easy and recommended.
# Up to 300m range
# 56-bit encryption for added security


[SIZE="4"]btw, kit of 2 for £35 + £5 del at Dixons beats PCW £19 each + £5 del.[/SIZE]
banned#13
wow good info, would love some of these, thanks all :)http://photo-shack.com/img/b9d487a30398d42ecff55c228ed5652b.gif
#14
I know this is slightly dearer, but a better deal: -
ZyXEL PLA-401 Twin Pack Powerline Homeplug AV 200Mbps
http://hotukdeals.com/item/271973/zyxel-pla-401-twin-pack-powerline-h/
#15
matty125
Hi,

I already have some powerline adaptors set up around the home (a different brand) from Maplins - can you simply add these? or do they need to be the same brand/type?

Thanks


can anyone answer this?
#16
These powerline adapters have built in encryption for data security.
Mixing brands I'm not sure would work. Possibly if they are same speed and encryption.
They do work across different circuits in your house (if its not a mansion).
Check out thread here.
http://hotukdeals.com/item/266569/zyxel-pla401-200mbps-powerline-inte/showthread.php?t=266569
#17
I've heard of a few people having problems with this item, myself included, bought a twin pack and wouldn't work out of the box. Scrapped them for a pair from ebuyer, the cheap one listed with excellent feedback and they were perfect with just as good a price.
banned#18
Stupid question time....with a pair of these, could I plug one into the wall beside my PC, connect up my Virgin router...then plug the other one in beside my XBox 360, hook it up and use it for Live?

Cheers,
Zuke
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Zuke,
Spot on mate - that's where these come in most handy! Obviously speed depends on quality of wiring and layout, but it can produce a more reliable connection than wifi if you have thick walls/are far from a router.
#20
I'm using four of these things. One connects to the cable modem, the other three are connected to computers in the house on a different ring. The signal seems to go through the two ring circuit breakers perfectly happily. I suspect the meter would stop them though, having a pretty high inductive series element.

Mine are old, and work at (I think ) 54 Mbps. I would like to know whether one of the newer 85 or 200 Mbps versions is compatible with the existing ones. I suspect these might prove more problematical on two different rings too. I asked one of PC World's 'Tech Guys' and don't really think he even understood the question.

The ones I bought are 'ADVENT' ones from PC World, and were not terribly reliable. The first pair worked OK for a day, then one failed and I got it replaced. It has worked fine ever since - 12 months perhaps? One of the second pair too, failed after a day or so, and I had to replace it. That was perhaps three or four months back. and all has been well since.

I would advise going for the lowest speed you can get away with to get round range problems, and suggest you keep the receipt. And make sure the encryption is switched on! Hope this helps.
#21
I've had a short peek at the technical documents, and I believe that all 'Homeplug' compliant devices are compatible, so it should not matter who you buy it from or what speed it works at. (You wil be limited to the maximum speed of the slowest device of course)

You can get more information from http://www.homeplug.org/home/ and for anyone more technically minded the IEEE is currently debating a standard - number P1901 - which will define this formally for manufacturers.
#22
Excoriator;3885744

The ones I bought are 'ADVENT' ones from PC World, and were not terribly reliable. The first pair worked OK for a day, then one failed and I got it replaced. It has worked fine ever since - 12 months perhaps? One of the second pair too, failed after a day or so, and I had to replace it. That was perhaps three or four months back. and all has been well since.

I would advise going for the lowest speed you can get away with to get round range problems, and suggest you keep the receipt. And make sure the encryption is switched on! Hope this helps.


Advent products are probably No.1 on my list of things never to buy, so no shock there!

Why go for lowest speed? They will only work as fast as they are able!
For one thing the early 14Mbs units are not generally sold now, the 85's work fine, but with bandwith expectations inevitably getting higher, especially as media becomes more and more Internet & PC based, and with the cost of the 200's being barely more, it would seem a better idea to go with them in the hope of them lasting long enough to see full benefit of them!
#23
I suggest the lowest speed only because I reckon the signal will get past any circuit breakers better than higher speed ones.

I could be wrong - I am guessing at how circuit breakers work - but these devicesmay well have an inductive circuit such as a solenoid which will offer more impedance to higher frequencies.

As you point out, however, getting the low speed ones is a problem. Maybe the best thing would be to try them out. If they don't work I guess you could first replace the offending circuit breakers with fuses. If that doesn't work, then go get your money back.

Despite some initial problems, I've found these devices less troublesome than wireless. My house is victorian and very solid. I could never get a reliable signal with wireless and eventually gave up on it. Touch wood, the powerline has been fine.
#24
Excoriator;3892022
I suggest the lowest speed only because I reckon the signal will get past any circuit breakers better than higher speed ones.


I have MCBs on my consumer unit, and I get EXCELLENT speeds. The one thing to avoid though is surge protectors, so plug them in separate to surge protected gear!
#25
Well, lucky you. Either you have been lucky or my fears are unneceessary. Congratulations.I'm delighted for you.

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