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AgfaPhoto DC-2030b 12MP Black Digital Camera £49.97 @tesco £49.99

£49.99 @ Tesco Direct
AgfaPhoto DC-2030b black digital camera includes a 12 megapixel sensor, 2.7 inches LCD view screen and 28 scene modes. Other benefits include image stabiliser, red- eye reduction, 32MB internal memor…
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AgfaPhoto DC-2030b black digital camera includes a 12 megapixel sensor, 2.7 inches LCD view screen and 28 scene modes. Other benefits include image stabiliser, red- eye reduction, 32MB internal memory and SD card slot with up to 16GB (SDHC) memory.
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#1
Already posted - still expensive rubbish.

You simply don't need to buy these no-name cheap cameras with a bought (yesterday's) brand slapped on them. There are so many good, cheap cameras out there these days. What are they? Well, a post from just a few days ago got you a decent little Fuji for a fiver less than this to start with (from Jessops I think). there are dozens of better deals available.

At the claimed original price this was a seriously bad joke.

Please don't post this kind of rubbish on HUKD - there are vulnerable consumers out there who get sucked in! At maybe £20 as a first camera for a kid to play with maybe it would have a valid place in the market but even at the reduced price this costs real money.

PS Post a link to a decent review and I'll eat my words publicly on here but I think you'll find the reputable review sites don't even look at this sort of stuff.
#2
Besford
Already posted - still expensive rubbish.

You simply don't need to buy these no-name cheap cameras with a bought (yesterday's) brand slapped on them. There are so many good, cheap cameras out there these days. What are they? Well, a post from just a few days ago got you a decent little Fuji for a fiver less than this to start with (from Jessops I think). there are dozens of better deals available.

At the claimed original price this was a seriously bad joke.

Please don't post this kind of rubbish on HUKD - there are vulnerable consumers out there who get sucked in! At maybe £20 as a first camera for a kid to play with maybe it would have a valid place in the market but even at the reduced price this costs real money.

PS Post a link to a decent review and I'll eat my words publicly on here but I think you'll find the reputable review sites don't even look at this sort of stuff.


how do you know the op isn't a vulnerable consumer? Not everyone is a camera expert, not everyone knows agfa isn't a big brand anymore. Your post is very harsh to the op. Slate the camera all you like but give the poster a break.
#3
mcnally32
how do you know the op isn't a vulnerable consumer? Not everyone is a camera expert, not everyone knows agfa isn't a big brand anymore. Your post is very harsh to the op. Slate the camera all you like but give the poster a break.


lol, cheers for that. the cheek of him. Have you seen some of the c rap he's posted. People in glass houses.
#4
pmackers
lol, cheers for that. the cheek of him. Have you seen some of the c rap he's posted. People in glass houses.


Seems that Besford knows a lot about nothing. Had he checked the Jessops site he would have seen that there is not a cheaper better make camera from there:whistling:
#5
mcnally32
how do you know the op isn't a vulnerable consumer? Not everyone is a camera expert, not everyone knows agfa isn't a big brand anymore. Your post is very harsh to the op. Slate the camera all you like but give the poster a break.

Valid point - insensitive - accepted.

I take it you agree re the camera then?
#6
pmackers
lol, cheers for that. the cheek of him. Have you seen some of the c rap he's posted. People in glass houses.

I'm still waiting for the good review to be posted. I'm ready to eat humble pie if one is. Hey, if it's really good I might even go and buy the camera but I'm not holding my breath!

Which of my posts meet your standards for 'c rap'? This one perhaps (416 points):

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/555061/fujifilm-finepix-a610-digital-camer
#7
jrw
Seems that Besford knows a lot about nothing. Had he checked the Jessops site he would have seen that there is not a cheaper better make camera from there:whistling:

Jessops don't appear to do Agfa cameras - not a surprise as they are a proper camera shop. However this is a good budget buy from there:

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/76442/show.html

Unfortunately it has gone back up to £55 (was on a £45 deal) but it's worth an extra fiver of anyone's money.
#8
Besford
Valid point - insensitive - accepted.

I take it you agree re the camera then?


Besford
I'm still waiting for the good review to be posted. I'm ready to eat humble pie if one is. Hey, if it's really good I might even go and buy the camera but I'm not holding my breath!

Which of my posts meet your standards for 'c rap'? This one perhaps (416 points):

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/555061/fujifilm-finepix-a610-digital-camer


Besford
Jessops don't appear to do Agfa cameras - not a surprise as they are a proper camera shop. However this is a good budget buy from there:

http://www.jessops.com/online.store/products/76442/show.html

Unfortunately it has gone back up to £55 (was on a £45 deal) but it's worth an extra fiver of anyone's money.


GO GET A LIFE. Who do you think you are David Bailey. If you don't like a post state why you dont like the product and move on. Your going a bit OTT here
#9
pmackers
GO GET A LIFE. Who do you think you are David Bailey. If you don't like a post state why you dont like the product and move on. Your going a bit OTT here

I said why I didn't rate it in post #2 but others didn't like that. I've also responded to comments addressed in my direction.

I know it's your post but don't be so precious about it! If you post on a public site you need to be prepared to engage in the rough and tumble with everyone else. I do.

I guess the final judges are the voters - seems to be stuck in the cool zone this one but thanks for sharing it.
#10
Besford
I said why I didn't rate it in post #2 but others didn't like that. I've also responded to comments addressed in my direction.

I know it's your post but don't be so precious about it! If you post on a public site you need to be prepared to engage in the rough and tumble with everyone else. I do.

I guess the final judges are the voters - seems to be stuck in the cool zone this one but thanks for sharing it.


yawn, yes it didnt make it to the front page and neither did the camera deals below:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/538803/casio-exilim-ex-z75-digital-camera-
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/516213/panasonic-lumix-fs6-4x-optical-zoom
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/516200/panasonic-lumix-tz6-12x-zoom-digita (-26)
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/515538/fujifilm-a160-digital-camera-10mp-h
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/437716/panasonic-lumix-tz7-now-under-300-a (-157)

all yours I believe
#11
That's correct, as was this one:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/555061/fujifilm-finepix-a610-digital-camer

All respectable cameras from decent brands. Generally others found them even cheaper.
#12
I know nothing about the camera in question, but I picked up a fuji Z300 10MP 5x optical zoon from asda Gloucester yesterday for £77 (cheapest I could find online was £130 delivered). Great little camera for the money, pleanty more in stock there.Also got a voucher for 50 free prints on their 2 day service. It was a hotukdeal:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/585643/fuji-finepix-z300-10mpx-5x-optical-
#13
Anything over 7 mega pixels seems to be a waste of money.

http://lifehacker.com/5452656/stay-under-7-megapixels-to-avoid-photo-noise-and-diffraction

Not voted
#14
I'm afraid that regarding the camera, although perhaps not the way he went about it, I must agree with Besford on this one, it's not a very good camera and there are much better cameras around for similar money, if not now then they certainly crop up frequently enough. If I wanted a camera for this sort of money I'd personally look for a refurb from either the Canon Outlet on eBay or Fuji own refurb shop, these would probably offer a camera capable of much better pictures for similar outlay.

The major tell-tale sign on these cheapo cameras is if you look at the lens - a decent camera brand will proudly have the name of the lens manufacturer written on the lens - if there's no name on it then it's unlikely to be a decent lens, and without a decent lens you're unlikely to get decent photos.

I can see where Besford is coming from, there are quite often poor cameras on here from supermarkets (or Hitachi ones from Argos) which I also feel compelled to warn people about because they are only likely to be disappointed in the long run, although I do feel that offering polite advice is the way forward.

Please though, don't buy this camera, either look for a refurb, spend a little bit more or wait for a more reputable brand camera to come along.

Absolutely no offence meant to the OP, it's easy to see these cheapo camera deals as a bargain, but more than most electrical equipment I think the brand does matter in cameras.
#15
I bought this camera in Tesco earlier in the month, does the job for me, good for taking out on nights out and stuff - the sound on video recordings could be better but the pictures are fine, lots of settings to play about with. Takes AA batteries and SD/SDHC cards. For fifty quid I'm happy enough.

Heat added.
#16
Besford will have a fit, it went hot!!!!
#17
pmackers
Besford will have a fit, it went hot!!!!


I've had my disagreements with Besford on another thread (AA batteries rule!:thumbsup:) but have to agree that this camera is not a good buy. Much like the overpriced Hitachi cameras that Argos sell, these cameras actually have nothing to do with Agfa, and are made by a company called Plawa who simply licence the AgfaPhoto name. If you have a problem with the camera and contact Agfa then they'd have nothing to do with it. It is unfortunately another case of somebody buying a recognised brand name in the hope that people assume it will be good quality, in this case I feel it's especially sneaky as Agfa are a recognised photography company so it's easy to assume that it's going to be made by them and reach their standards.

I have absolutely no knowledge of this or any other AgfaPhoto camera so could be very wrong and they could be a fantastic buy, but I think the fact that there are no reviews anywhere cannot be a good thing; surely if they thought they had a value for money product they would send a review product to at least one of the many camera review sites, or similarly, if they were any good then the camera review sites would try and at least mention them somewhere.

I would urge anybody thinking of buying this purely based on the heat to consider other options aswell, especially if it's going to be your main camera as I'm fairly sure you can get better.

I do wonder whether some of the heat was a vote against Besford's initial, rather brash comment, as I am genuinely surprised that this has achieved the heat it has.
#18
Mike73
I've had my disagreements with Besford on another thread (AA batteries rule!:thumbsup:) but have to agree that this camera is not a good buy. Much like the overpriced Hitachi cameras that Argos sell, these cameras actually have nothing to do with Agfa, and are made by a company called Plawa who simply licence the AgfaPhoto name. If you have a problem with the camera and contact Agfa then they'd have nothing to do with it. It is unfortunately another case of somebody buying a recognised brand name in the hope that people assume it will be good quality, in this case I fell it's especially sneaky as Agfa are a recognised photography company so it's easy to assume that it's going to be made by them and reach their standards.

I have absolutely no knowledge of this or any other AgfaPhoto camera so could be very wrong and they could be a fantastic buy, but I think the fact that there are no reviews anywhere cannot be a good thing; surely if they thought they had a value for money product they would send a review product to at least one of the many camera review sites, or similarly, if they were any good then the camera review sites would try and at least mention them somewhere.

I would urge anybody thinking of buying this purely based on the heat to consider other options aswell, especially if it's going to be your main camera as I'm fairly sure you can get better.

I do wonder whether some of the heat was a vote against Besford's initial, rather brash comment, as I am genuinely surprised that this has achieved the heat it has.


The camera isn't made by Plawa - oops you know very little just like Besford. And it's an Agfaphoto licensed product from Allmonde. Agfaphoto Holdings is different from Agfa Gavaert. If you know the full facts post them - if you don't you can remain quiet or look daft.
#19
wildandyc
The camera isn't made by Plawa - oops you know very little just like Besford. And it's an Agfaphoto licensed product from Allmonde. Agfaphoto Holdings is different from Agfa Gavaert. If you know the full facts post them - if you don't you can remain quiet or look daft.


Having re-read my comment I meant to put is that it's manufactured by Plawa, for AgfaPhoto who have licenced their name from Agfa Gavaert -

If I'm incorrect, then I apologise. I suspected that the AgfaPhoto cameras were not made my Agfa Gavaert and so thought I'd do a bit of a goolgle to find out who made them. The information I got came from the technical specification pdf for this camera, downloaded from the AgfaPhoto website: -

http://www.agfaphoto.com/appc/_upload/2009_24/AP_DC_2030m_TS_TD_GB.pdf

AgfaPhoto is used under license of Agfa-Gevaert NV & Co. KG or Agfa-Gevaert NV. Neither Agfa-Gevaert
NV & Co. KG nor Agfa-Gevaert NV manufacture this product or provide any product warranty or support.
For service, support and warranty information, contact the distributor or manufacturer. All other brands
and product names are registered trademarks of their respective owners. YouTube is a brand of Google,
Inc. and YouTube, LLC, Mountain View, California, US. Product design and technical features can be changed
without notice..
AgfaPhoto Holding GmbH, [url]www.agfaphoto.com[/url]
Manufactured by plawa-feinwerktechnik GmbH & Co. KG, [url]www.plawa.com[/url]


Now, I'm not saying that I know I'm right, but surely if I'm wrong it's fairly clear why, if this is on their website.

I also don't see why you have to be so rude, I was merely submitting information which I thought, with good reason, to be correct, and at no point in my comment made any personal comments about anyone.

EDIT: Sorry for my impoliteness - Welcome to HUKD, nice first post

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