Aiptek AHD200 High Definition Camcorder - £131.46 delivered @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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This looks like a good price for a HD camcorder.

Technical Details
High Definition (HD) video camcorder
16:9 video mode for optimizing wide screen viewing
5 mega-pixel CMOS sensor
2.4" LCD display
Supports up to 32GB SDHC
Easy Power charge from PC or AC adapter
Supports HD TV and standard TV (cables supplied)
Extremely fast start up time
Camcorder and still image camera
LED light and Night mode support while recording
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banned#1
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#2
Sorry asandwhen, this is ~ £126 delivered from QVC:)
#3
Looks good to me, didn't realise that you could get hd for this price, voted hot!
banned#4
edi
Sorry asandwhen, this is ~ £126 delivered from QVC:)


cool thanks - what are they like to order from? how quick?
#5
Can anyone find any sample videos? I want to see what the quality is like. Or if someone has it would they be so kind as to upload a short video?

Thanks!
#6
It's a good price for an HD camcorder, unfortunately it's not a good HD camcorder.

Might be worth waiting for the imminent release of the sub £150 Toshiba Camileo HD Pro.
#7
Looks junk to me i wouldn't give £20 for one.
#8
Better wait for the new one then.
#9
Isn't this usually sold in the back of Sunday Papers? Cheap and nasty, and think anyone who spends money on this will be disappointed. Cold, I'm afraid. Save your pennies for something better
#10
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banned#11
androo
or click my link above and get something better for less money..


but its not hd so its not better at all.- the only reason you would buy the aiptek is because it is HD - if you get the toshiba one then you are not even getting that.

Like Tyler Durden said the hd version of this is coming out soon - I have been looking into this and everywhere says end of April but still not out yet - I think I will wait for this if it is close the the £150 mark - does anyone know if it will have zoom?
#12
good point, theres no HD on the name nevermind, buy a decent camera then.
#13
I would not expect anything more than decently made toy.The quality of recorded film will be pathetic - CMOS sensor?
Do not buy this rubbish guys.

Sorry Asandwhen but this time it must be cold....very cold
#14
asandwhen;2003619
cool thanks - what are they like to order from? how quick?


No idea.. sorry :)
#15
androo
good point, theres no HD on the name nevermind, buy a decent camera then.


This IS a HD camera because of resolution ...but it's absolutely rubbish, without any memory, poor components - the specifiction is good...for webcam :p
Do not take the 'HD' into acount...it's like Vista ready computer having 512mb ram :)
banned#16
7777777
This IS a HD camera because of resolution ...but it's absolutely rubbish, without any memory, poor components - the specifiction is good...for webcam :p
Do not take the 'HD' into acount...it's like Vista ready computer having 512mb ram :)


what will the toshiba hd one be like when it is released? will that one be any good?
1 Like #17
asandwhen
what will the toshiba hd one be like when it is released? will that one be any good?


Sorry, I am not specialist but I am sure, Toshiba will offer at least decent quality.

Good camera MUST have CCD sensor (never CMOS) and plenty of space on harddisk if you are going to use the HD.
#18
Any sample vids then guys?
banned#19
7777777
Sorry, I am not specialist but I am sure, Toshiba will offer at least decent quality.

Good camera MUST have CCD sensor (never CMOS) and plenty of space on harddisk if you are going to use the HD.


thanks - rep added
#20
I got this from QVC and when playing the videos on my Toshiba 1080p HD tv the quality was terrible. It seemed a great price but the quality was a lot worse than my dvd camcorder
#21
Dunno what the Toshiba one is like, but you can get it £126 delivered from Ebuyer and other places:
http://pcadvisor.pgpartner.co.uk/search_getprod.php/masterid=51741817/search=Toshiba+Camileo+Pro/st=query/

Anybody know what HD this records in? (ie 720p etc)
#22
7777777;2003881
Sorry, I am not specialist but I am sure, Toshiba will offer at least decent quality.

Good camera MUST have CCD sensor (never CMOS) and plenty of space on harddisk if you are going to use the HD.

So why do Sony et al use CMOS sensors in their HD cameras then? Like you said, not a specialist...:whistling:
#25


Yeah but its a Kodak :p
#26
sburley
So why do Sony et al use CMOS sensors in their HD cameras then? Like you said, not a specialist...:whistling:


As I can see, you are not a specialist too :whistling:

yep, you are right - if you are going for Sony HD cameras '£1000 , go for it.Otherwise, NEVER buy CMOS, unless you are looking for cheap Webcam.CMOS technology is used to reduce the costs and so far, only Sony managed to get decent quality from this technology.


''...But HD isn’t the only innovation to be found in the HDR-HC1E. It’s also only the second camcorder to arrive with a CMOS sensor instead of a CCD – the first being Sony’s DCR-PC1000. While CMOS technology has started finding its way into cheap digital camcorders, it hasn’t been popular for camcorders up until now. In the past, CMOSes offered poor low light performance, but Sony appears to have overcome this with its Enhanced Imaging Processor. CCDs capture video as an analogue signal, which is then digitised and filtered by separate circuitry. With a CMOS, the sensor chip itself does the digitising, making the camcorder circuitry cheaper.

Panasonic has criticised Sony’s CMOS technology as inferior to CCDs. Whereas a CCD captures a field or frame all at the same time, the Sony CMOS scans progressively, so pixels at the bottom of the image are recorded milliseconds later than those at the top. Because of this, fast camera moves can create bending and tearing effects. However, although we saw some evidence of this with very fast camera moves, in practice it was virtually invisible, and we didn’t find it had any effect on overall video quality....'

source : http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2005/10/06/Sony-HDR-HC1E-High-Definition-Camcorder/p1
#27
7777777;2004809
As I can see, you are not a specialist too :whistling:

yep, you are right - if you are going for Sony HD cameras '£1000 , go for it.Otherwise, NEVER buy CMOS, unless you are looking for cheap Webcam.CMOS technology is used to reduce the costs and so far, only Sony managed to get decent quality from this technology.


''...But HD isn’t the only innovation to be found in the HDR-HC1E. It’s also only the second camcorder to arrive with a CMOS sensor instead of a CCD – the first being Sony’s DCR-PC1000. While CMOS technology has started finding its way into cheap digital camcorders, it hasn’t been popular for camcorders up until now. In the past, CMOSes offered poor low light performance, but Sony appears to have overcome this with its Enhanced Imaging Processor. CCDs capture video as an analogue signal, which is then digitised and filtered by separate circuitry. With a CMOS, the sensor chip itself does the digitising, making the camcorder circuitry cheaper.

Panasonic has criticised Sony’s CMOS technology as inferior to CCDs. Whereas a CCD captures a field or frame all at the same time, the Sony CMOS scans progressively, so pixels at the bottom of the image are recorded milliseconds later than those at the top. Because of this, fast camera moves can create bending and tearing effects. However, although we saw some evidence of this with very fast camera moves, in practice it was virtually invisible, and we didn’t find it had any effect on overall video quality....'

source : http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2005/10/06/Sony-HDR-HC1E-High-Definition-Camcorder/p1

Please click the links and check the specs:
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProductCategory.action?site=odw_en_GB&category=HDD+HDV
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProductCategory.action?site=odw_en_GB&category=HDD+AVCHD+Hard+Disk+Drive
http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowProductCategory.action?site=odw_en_GB&category=HDD+AVCHD+DVD
#28
#29
The HDR-HC1E you mention came out in 2005!
#30


you are right.Plenty of Sony with CMOS.Look then at the main post and tell me how many times more expensive is the cheapest one than the Aiptek?...and as I said, only Sony managed to get decent picture.How much the cheapest Sony with CMOS cost - £450?or more?
#31
7777777;2004868
you are right.Plenty on Sony with CMOS.Look then at the main post and tell me how many times more expensive is the cheapest one from the Aipotek?...and as I said, only Sony managed to get decent picture.How much the cheapest Sony with CMOS cost - £450?or more?

Complete rubbish. So CMOS are bad, but expensive?
I wasn't suggesting any alternatives with specific technology, you did.
Canon HV20/30 produces some of the best images using a CMOS recording at high bitrate to tape.
So what's your suggestion for a camera with a CCD then, comparable in price to the aiptek.
The toshiba uses CMOS.
Stop reading reviews and articles that are 3 years out of date.
#32
Toshiba has a new budget camcorder on the market - the Camileo Pro HD - which offers 720p HD resolution for under £150.First and foremost, this is a camcorder, with a a five megapixel CMOS sensor able to shoot HD footage at a progressive resolution of 1280 x 720, encoded in H.264/MPEG4 format. And you can watch it back on your HD-ready TV via the HDMI connectivity. Just 18MB of storage, but you can boost up to 32GB via SDHC.
But that's not all, the Camileo Pro HD also has a 2.5-inch LCD screen, voice recording, MP3 player, webcam functionality and motion sensor to detect activity. Expect it in April for £149.99.
#33
My suggestion for a reasonable first HD camera at a good price point for the features.
Toshiba Gigashot K40 HD Digital Camcorder + Free 500GB Hard Drive £348.99
http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=310228&sku=143383

http://www.toshiba-europe.com/smallandsurprising/index.asp?lang=en
#34
deanos;2004794
Yeah but its a Kodak :p

True :thumbsup: , but Samsung?! Nice phones.
#35
sburley
Complete rubbish. So CMOS are bad, but expensive?
I wasn't suggesting any alternatives with specific technology, you did.
Canon HV20/30 produces some of the best images using a CMOS recording at high bitrate to tape.
So what's your suggestion for a camera with a CCD then, comparable in price to the aiptek.
The toshiba uses CMOS.
Stop reading reviews and articles that are 3 years out of date.


CMOS were very bad and were always much cheaper to produce than CCD - that's why the technology is used in cheap camcorders. Apparently, as you proved, some newer technology arrived and some of the CMOS are as good as CCD.However, the good ones are expensive and for a person, who is looking for rather cheap camcorder, advise to go for CCD is absolutely unquestionable.Any cheap camcorder (i.e. £150) with CCD will offer incomparably better picture than camcorder having technology CMOS...absolutely any...even HI8 and miniDV....
I do reffered to the ''article that are 3 years out of date'' only because in very simple way explains what the CMOS and CCD are about.



Yes, for £150 I would buy minidv with CCD
#36
7777777;2006567
CMOS were very bad and were always much cheaper to produce than CCD - that's why the technology is used in cheap camcorders. Apparently, as you proved, some newer technology arrived and some of the CMOS are as good as CCD.However, the good ones are expensive and for a person, who is looking for rather cheap camcorder, advise to go for CCD is absolutely unquestionable.Any cheap camcorder (i.e. £150) with CCD will offer incomparably better picture than camcorder having technology CMOS...absolutely any...even HI8 and miniDV....
I do reffered to the ''article that are 3 years out of date'' only because in very simple way explains what the CMOS and CCD are about.



Yes, for £150 I would buy minidv with CCD

But that doesn't really help 'asandwhen' who seems keen on a HD camera.
The Toshiba Camileo, might be the answer, but it has CMOS... but you never know it might be OK. A lot has happened in 3 years.
#37
If you are after an ultra compact hd camcorder, then have a look at the Sanyo Xacti range. They do hybrid cameras that are very good quality- see Steves Digicams Xacti forum for details, footage and loads of comments!!
#38
sburley
But that doesn't really help 'asandwhen' who seems keen on a HD camera.


I still belive it helps. There is no decent HD camcorder for £150... but other options are available and worth consideration. If you drop the idea of cheap HD, you can find a good 800k pix with much better final result.

If I had £4000 and wanted a new car - Perpedua Nippa should not be my only choice :) . Possibly well-maintained Toyota 2003 reg. would be a better choice.
#39
asandwhen
cool thanks - what are they like to order from? how quick?


QVC delivery is usually 5-7 working days. If it fails in first 12 months they will replace it or refund full price - your choice. You also get 30 days to try it out.

Oh, and you can get 5% Quidco with QVC.

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