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Been watching these for a while, easily the cheapest I have seen them so thought I would share, and can be shipped with Amazon Prime. I believe these are much faster than the older standard Home Plugs.

Apologies if already posted elsewhere, couldn't find anyone else putting this up.

Edit: Now Out of immediate stock - 2-5 week delivery at that price.
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#1
Tempting price, but it's Belkin, probably last a week
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I presume you went get these fast speeds if you have cat 5 cabling and 100mbs network cards?
#3
cmsimc
I presume you went get these fast speeds if you have cat 5 cabling and 100mbs network cards?


Nope.
#4
I know this looks to be a different model , but if they are anything like the ones listed in the link below which had lots of issue then maybe you might want to look at a different brand?

Link

hope this helps
#5
cmsimc
I presume you went get these fast speeds if you have cat 5 cabling and 100mbs network cards?

Cat5e cabling and 1000mbit cards would be necessary to get gb speeds.

gb = 1000

so if you only had 100 cards it would be capped at 100.

The whole business with cat5/5e/6 cabling is a murky world....the theory is that cat5e cables will carry gb speeds, but I've found recently that the quality of the cable is important...I've had a few £2 cat5e (supposedly) cables that topped out 100.
#6
I only have 5e cable and I get gigabit speed, 10Mbytes/s on std 100 vs upto 60Mbytes/s when in gigabit. I got caught out on connections though as I use wall sockets and then patch leads. On my 30m cable I had to strip the small wires and solder to get good data transfer. If you are lucky your network card can be forced to gigabit only negating this issue.
#7
And they knock out DAB radio in your street lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wvtBhilvz4
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Damnit not this guy. He's an absolute idiot. This is his web site: http://www.mikeandsniffy.co.uk/UKQRM/

Why doesn't he just return the power line adapters? Or sell them? Or put them in the **** bin? Of course your transfer didn't resume. You're using Ghost. From 2005. It doesn't resume.

He really REALLY winds me up.

MOVE THE **** DAB RADIO AWAY FROM THE ADAPTERS!

Threlly
And they knock out DAB radio in your street lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wvtBhilvz4



Edited By: unconfirmed on Jun 22, 2011 01:03
#9
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.
#10
Cat 5 and 100Mbs cards are much faster than these devices, so you'll have no issues if that's what you use to connect them.
#11
How so? I get about 80Mbps with my AV homeplugs, so it seems a reasonable assumption that I'll get more than 100Mbps out of these ones.
#12
jbarnett
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.


If, as you say, you get a xfer rate of 80Mbps then that should easily be enough for HD video. Suggests your bottleneck lies elsewhere?
#13
RB1978
I know this looks to be a different model , but if they are anything like the ones listed in the link below which had lots of issue then maybe you might want to look at a different brand?

[url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.co.uk%2FBelkin-Powerline-1000Mbps-Streaming-F5D4076uk%2Fdp%2FB00267Q3SI%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2%3Fs%3Dcomputers%26ie%3DUTF8%26qid%3D1308669201%26sr%3D1-2]Link[/url]

hope this helps


Agreed, the adapters in your link were rubbish. After 3 firmware updates, I finally ditched them and went with some cheap tp-link adapters and got 3 times the speed, so if it is that model, then avoid like the plague. If it's not then it may be ok....
#14
Got some of the ones in the link, after updating the firmware they were 'ok' but not great, they would still drop out for a few seconds, albeit occasionally, say once or twice a week. Relegated them to use connecting up the 360 in the end.
#15
jbarnett
How so? I get about 80Mbps with my AV homeplugs, so it seems a reasonable assumption that I'll get more than 100Mbps out of these ones.


How do you test the speed?
#16
jbarnett
How so? I get about 80Mbps with my AV homeplugs, so it seems a reasonable assumption that I'll get more than 100Mbps out of these ones.


How do you test the speed?
#17
^He probably uses the built-in speed tester in Windows Media Centre, which tells you if you're suitable for SD or HD streaming.

@jbarnett - you can stream HD fine over a 100Mb/s router, no need for gigabit.

Edited By: Systems on Jun 22, 2011 09:12
#18
As far as I know, at the moment, there is nothing but trouble with these adapters. For the price HOT, for the product cold. I'm not voting.
#19
ourdave
cmsimc
I presume you went get these fast speeds if you have cat 5 cabling and 100mbs network cards?


Cat5e cabling and 1000mbit cards would be necessary to get gb speeds.

gb = 1000

so if you only had 100 cards it would be capped at 100.

The whole business with cat5/5e/6 cabling is a murky world....the theory is that cat5e cables will carry gb speeds, but I've found recently that the quality of the cable is important...I've had a few £2 cat5e (supposedly) cables that topped out 100.


cable categories are just tests standards they they have passed, if you tested a cat 5 cable to cat 5e standards you might find out that it actually is a cat5e cable.
#20
I suggest everyone be wary of these. The actual homeplug specification is probably homeplug av which is 200MBps (which you never get anywhere near) The next iteration of homeplug (av2) is due this year where the power line is rated at 600MBps these Belkin plugs are probably just 1Gb between the plug and your network card not over the powerlines.
#21
Reading1800
jbarnett
How so? I get about 80Mbps with my AV homeplugs, so it seems a reasonable assumption that I'll get more than 100Mbps out of these ones.


How do you test the speed?

There's a small command line application I used at home - run it on a desktop PC upstairs and then took it on a laptop around my various plugs. I can't remember the name of it but when you know the command to run it was useful and allowed me to optimise my connections. I can try to find out tonight if need be,
#22
I've done a web search regarding the problems encountered with the F5D4076uk model and they are vast. These appear to be the F5D4078uk for which I can find no problems, perhaps it's because they are too new for reviews to have surfaced yet or maybe this newer model fixes all the old problems, I don't know.
#23
The gigabit speed claims are a total con, they barely outperform 200mbps adapters. They just use them to get your attention. It's like wifi N, in theory it peaks at 300mbps but even with a laptop right next to your router you'd be lucky to get half if not a quarter of that.
#24
no good the ones i recommend are the devolo AV 500 i now have no glitches watching full 1080p over 1 floor !! i have tried everything else all fail the new netgear av500 and these!! devolo better brand!!

Even the devolo 200 aint bad at all works well for normal internet, the belkins are not very good.
#25
I used a program called LAN speed test, pretty simple but it does the job.

Having just re run the test, it appears I was mistaken and I'm actually getting around 35Mbps. Perhaps the 80Mbps was when I had a network cable running down the stairs
So what would be deemed sufficient to stream HD video? So far it has only proved problematic for one particular file at one specific point in the film. Is that typical? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?

Also having changed plugs I'm getting some very sporadic results, perhaps I could do with checking the wiring behind my plugs.
#26
jbarnett
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.

Get a TP-Link Gigabit switch, 5 port for £13, 8 port £21.
Connect everything to this, and then this to your router. That way you get gigabit speed except to your router, but your internet connection won't be that fast anyway.
I now notice transferring files to my NAS much faster.
#27
Reading1800
jbarnett
How so? I get about 80Mbps with my AV homeplugs, so it seems a reasonable assumption that I'll get more than 100Mbps out of these ones.



How do you test the speed?


I use TP- Link's powerline utility. It tells you the quality and speed.
You should be able to download it from their web site.
Not sure whether it works on other makes of homeplugs though.
I noticed a big difference when I moved one of the plugs from a 4 way extension to the wall outlet. It went from 90Mbps to 160Mbps.
#28
Mark NS
jbarnett
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.
Get a TP-Link Gigabit switch, 5 port for £13, 8 port £21.
Connect everything to this, and then this to your router. That way you get gigabit speed except to your router, but your internet connection won't be that fast anyway.
I now notice transferring files to my NAS much faster.

Apologies, I don't quite understand network stuff that much, but wow does that work any different to just connecting cat cables directly into the router?

thanks
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mikkeltaylor
Mark NS
jbarnett
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.

Get a TP-Link Gigabit switch, 5 port for £13, 8 port £21.
Connect everything to this, and then this to your router. That way you get gigabit speed except to your router, but your internet connection won't be that fast anyway.
I now notice transferring files to my NAS much faster.


Apologies, I don't quite understand network stuff that much, but wow does that work any different to just connecting cat cables directly into the router?
thanks

My ADSL wirelss router via ethernet operates at 100Mbps, so if I connect the NAS and two PC's via the router, then they will be limited by the router's 100Mbps speed. (Plus I didn't have enough ethernet sockets for my needs.)
By using the gigabit switch, the peripherals that can use 1000Mbps will, however the connection to the router will still be at 100Mbps.
You can get gigabit ADSL modems, but they are relatively expensive compared to 10/100 versions at the moment.
#30
Mark NS
mikkeltaylor
Mark NS
jbarnett
Can anyone recommend a decent gigabit router? I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs but they struggle when streaming the odd high def video.

Get a TP-Link Gigabit switch, 5 port for £13, 8 port £21.
Connect everything to this, and then this to your router. That way you get gigabit speed except to your router, but your internet connection won't be that fast anyway.
I now notice transferring files to my NAS much faster.


Apologies, I don't quite understand network stuff that much, but wow does that work any different to just connecting cat cables directly into the router?
thanks

My ADSL wirelss router via ethernet operates at 100Mbps, so if I connect the NAS and two PC's via the router, then they will be limited by the router's 100Mbps speed. (Plus I didn't have enough ethernet sockets for my needs.)
By using the gigabit switch, the peripherals that can use 1000Mbps will, however the connection to the router will still be at 100Mbps.
You can get gigabit ADSL modems, but they are relatively expensive compared to 10/100 versions at the moment.


Thanks that clears it up, so it's all about maximising the speed on the local network rather than what comes in through the net.
#31
Sorry, very late reply - I used iperf

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