Amazon Reebok Laser Alloy 21-speed Full Suspension Cycle (20/26") £114.99 - HotUKDeals
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Looks like nice bike with excellent reviews. £199 cheapest elsewhere, was going to buy the argos silverfox orb at £99 but seriosuly tempted by this- any views?

Product Features
20" Alloy Dual Suspension Frame with Semi-Integrated Headset
Shimano 21-speed Gears with SRAM MRX Dual-Index Rotational Shifters
Zoom CH-386 Front Suspension Fork
Adjustable Rear Shock Unit with Alloy Case
26" Alloy Wheels
26" x 2.1" Black Tyres
Alloy V-Style Brakes
100mm Kobe Stem
Padded Kobe Sports Saddle
Suitable Inside Leg Measurement: 30"-37"
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#1
As always Ill offer my advice. If you are going to spend this amount on a mountain bike, buy one with front suspension only becuase it means that the drive train (gears, derailleur etc) will more than likely be higher quality. An nothing annoys people more than clicky, slippy chain/gears.

Check out the Giant Rock for example.
#2
jazid
As always Ill offer my advice. If you are going to spend this amount on a mountain bike, buy one with front suspension only becuase it means that the drive train (gears, derailleur etc) will more than likely be higher quality. An nothing annoys people more than clicky, slippy chain/gears.

Check out the Giant Rock for example.



What? The deal shown has suspension and your 'advice' costs 50% more! :?
#3
jazid;5608897
, buy one with front suspension only .

Why bother with front suspension?
#4
[QUOTE=jazid:
As always Ill offer my advice. If you are going to spend this amount on a mountain bike, buy one with front suspension only becuase it means that the drive train (gears, derailleur etc) will more than likely be higher quality. An nothing annoys people more than clicky, slippy chain/gears.

Check out the Giant Rock for example.

What? The deal shown has suspension and your 'advice' costs 50% more[/QUOTE]

I think that the point is that it does not have REAR suspension.

It is often said that full suspension is gimmicky at best, although it may have benefits in specific circumstances.
#5
jazid
As always Ill offer my advice. If you are going to spend this amount on a mountain bike, buy one with front suspension only becuase it means that the drive train (gears, derailleur etc) will more than likely be higher quality. An nothing annoys people more than clicky, slippy chain/gears.

Check out the Giant Rock for example.


Can you actually buy a new bike that doesn't come with Shimano gears?
#6
rondorondo
I think that the point is that it does not have REAR suspension.

It is often said that full suspension is gimmicky at best, although it may have benefits in specific circumstances.


I agree entirely.............
#7
Jefft;5608953
Why bother with front suspension?

I'm waiting for an "expert" to tell me why you would need front suspension on a bike. It dips when you brake, unbalancing the braking, and is not as taught as solid front forks. So what benefit does it offer?
#8
Jefft
I'm waiting for an "expert" to tell me why you would need front suspension on a bike. It dips when you brake, unbalancing the braking, and is not as taught as solid front forks. So what benefit does it offer?

I'm not an expert but the front suspension on my bike certainly makes it more comfortable when riding over rough terrain.
#9
Jefft
I'm waiting for an "expert" to tell me why you would need front suspension on a bike. It dips when you brake, unbalancing the braking, and is not as taught as solid front forks. So what benefit does it offer?


I'm no expert but mine has front suspension and I've never had a problem with it unbalancing the braking - suspension is quite firm, maybe that's why?

If you're only using a bike for pottering around on the road or cycle path I'd suggest suspension is a real benefit given the state of our roads.

If you're a serious off road biker you wouldn't be looking at this deal anyway.
#10
Having owned quite a few mountain bikes I can tell you that rear suspension is a waste of time and money.

I'm mainly an uphill cycle kind of guy (off road) - But what goes up, must come down.

If I had rear suspension going uphill, I can almost guarantee zero efficiency as all the energy is lost to the rear suspension. You really really need a hard tail for that kind of scenario.

On the way down, its very much likely that you will be crouching (bent knees) or standing up. You wouldn't really be sitting.
If you were, yes, you would get a comfy ride - But again, ultimately you will be slowed down. And you wouldn't enjoy the thrill :P

With regards to the front suspension, its not really there for comfort as such, but more to protect your arms, shoulders, back etc from sudden brittle breaking jolts.

The only "benefit" to rear suspension, is that you think you look cool - But to everyone else.. Or at least to the majority of mountain bikers... You just look like a tit xD

At the end of the day, it really depends on what you are using the bike for. If its just for the commute to work then I recommend either a hard tail with quick release wheels (interchangeable) or a full on road bike (w/o suspension) - For both these you will want slick tires for max efficiency.

If its for off road, then just get a good quality hard tail... I'm usually not a designer cloths kind of guy, but when it comes to equipment, its better to go for brands that will last longer... rather than going down the cheap end and having it fail on you at the worst moments.

At present, I only a slightly modded 2nd hand GT Avalanche 1.0

The bike itself costs £250 and Ive added a further £250 with new suspension/ forks, new brakes and better pedals + shoes... So ultimately, I was just spending £250 on the frame :)

But that's just me :P
#11
As with most things in life - you get what you pay for! A cheap full suspension bike will not be very good quality - it costs about £1000 to start getting something with full suspension that's actaully reasonably decent. My brother bought some cheap (circa £100 - £200) full suspension bike and, not wishing to be rude, it was crap! He'd have been much better investing in a bike with no suspension and at least getting something with a reasonable frame, etc... Those cheap bikes will weigh a hell of a lot.

As for suspension causing problems climbing up hill - again, you tend to get what you pay for. If you invest in a decent suspension system and and well designed linkage, the loss of efficiency is minimal. I won't say how much I've just invested in a new bike, but it was a seriously significant amount.
#12
bristolbaz
What? The deal shown has suspension and your 'advice' costs 50% more! :?


My advice will also probably get you a bike htat weighs 50% less to.

As another poster stated, you get what you pay for (as long as you buy sensibly). Giant is THE largest bike manufacturer in the world, so you will get economy of scale (Trek even have some of their frames hydroformed at teh Giant plants). Rebok dont build bike, they buy them in and rebrand them.

Klis
The only "benefit" to rear suspension, is that you think you look cool - But to everyone else.. Or at least to the majority of mountain bikers... You just look like a tit xD


I disagree. Since I picked up my Trek Fuel EX8 last year I have been able to fly down rocy descents and off jumps without loosing speed. Doing this on a hard tail is possible, but descending speed is impaired for all but the experienced riders.

Also, Im looking forward to riding my first 24hour endurance race on my full susser, depsite the extra weight of the rear suspension, it wont be dreading getting back on the bike after 14 hours because Im confident my backside wont look like I've just escaped from an evening with the Gimp from Pulp Fiction.

It makes a big difference, but ONLY is you ride offroad trails/freeride etc.

Having ridden a MTB with rigid forks, I can say that front suspension really helps reduce fatigue and improves control going over the bumpy stuff.
In terms of ideal market, this Reebok sits in the no mans land and doesn't offer a good solution to anyone (communters/offroaders), as you have already discussed.
#13
orlando08
Must be a half decent deal - it's out of stock now......
"Usually dispatched within 2 to 4 weeks."


It said 2 to 4 weeks at 8.30 this morning.
#14
Im a leisure cyclist may use it for work occasionally or going along dirt tracks/ bridle ways etc so not looking at something too expensive nor for daily use, simple question then is this bike or the silverfox orb from Argos at £99 worth looking at?
#15
Not a bad price. But please don't buy cheap full suspension bikes. They really are crap to ride and way too heavy.

No one but down hill riders need full suspension. You have knees for a reason.
#16
Trek Fuel EX 8 - nice bike. Giant also make some nice stuff, e.g. Anthem X1. Personally, I've got an Ellsworth Epiphany currently being built to my specs. :)
#17
kevw
Im a leisure cyclist may use it for work occasionally or going along dirt tracks/ bridle ways etc so not looking at something too expensive nor for daily use, simple question then is this bike or the silverfox orb from Argos at £99 worth looking at?


Neither. Assuming your budget is sub £100, you better be looking at something without any suspension. Not even front suspension.

If I was you, I would get someone who knows about bikes to help buy a decent second hand one at the same price but if thats not possible then go down to a local bike shop and ask their advice for the budget you have, they'll make sure you get something more appropriate
#18
orlando08
Apologies for being a tad slow........ At 8.30 this morning I was 2 hours into my shift at work..... :oops:....... I'll try to be quicker next time..........


Just pointing out that it wasn't acutally selling like hotcakes, as you had implied as technically it was out of stock when OPed. ;-)
#19
Agree with all the advice here, do not buy a cheap bike if you want to enjoy your riding. They will have all the gimicks such as full suspension and disc breaks but they will be heavy and unpleasant to ride, also if used for any amount of time the maintence costs will outweigh the money you saved on the initial purchase.

I ride a GT tequesta that I bought 10 years ago for the princely sum of £500, it's lighter than most other bikes (including many racers) and the only running costs are consumables such as tyres, break pads & new drive train every 5,000 miles. It has no suspension and is a pleasure to ride 20 miles every day with a bit of light dirt tracking at the weekends.
#20
These bike are alright for kids who want to ride them to school. They look kinda cool and that's all that matters to most 12-15 year olds. Perhaps the wheels (which are likely to be carp) will last a bit longer bumping up and down the kerbs as the suspension will take some of the force out of it.

I agree with most of the comments made on here. For £100 I would certainly recommend going second hand if you want something that you will ride more than a few times, because you will get fed up of this and it will be left to rust.
#21
Jefft
Why bother with front suspension?


well if your just gonna be doing road riding then dont bother with front sus,it does make it nicer to ride though and soaks up all the pot holes etc:thumbsup:
#22
Hi Guys,

need some good advice.
My son will be 9 yrs, next week, want to get him a bike( his 1st one, he did have small one at age of 4-5). He is 143 cam tall, can you please advice what will be most suitable for him( basic biking) annd is possible mention a specific product( website link etc)

thanks in advance
#24
Full suspension is a CWOT for most, especially at this price 'cos it will break if you even show it a decent downhill! 20 inch frame too which is only for the very tall on this kind of bike.
#25
don't buy a bike on the internet, worst mistake i ever made a few years back, my friend just did it recentley. YOu really need to test drive a bike, a real pain if you need to return!
#26
Hi,

I'm taken advantage of the fact that there seems to be real bicycle experts on this thread.

I'm looking for a bike suitable for riding in the park, cycle paths, woods etc with my child.

I'm 5ft 8 in female with inside leg of 31 in.

My budget is £100 and I don't mind buying second hand. I don't understand suspension/no suspension. Just want a comfortable bike but don't know where to start.

Thanks
#27
@ op thanks for the deal - I think this is ideal for my little bro whose a bit on the tall side for his age
@ munchkin77 IMHO im sure the reebok bike is adequate for what you want to use it for, cycle paths, woods- I think the pro bikes are for people who need alot more in a cycle than your average person.

Out of interest anyone know who manufactures this cycle for reebok?
#28
Baz8755
Agree with all the advice here, do not buy a cheap bike if you want to enjoy your riding. They will have all the gimicks such as full suspension and disc breaks but they will be heavy and unpleasant to ride, also if used for any amount of time the maintence costs will outweigh the money you saved on the initial purchase.

I ride a GT tequesta that I bought 10 years ago for the princely sum of £500, it's lighter than most other bikes (including many racers) and the only running costs are consumables such as tyres, break pads & new drive train every 5,000 miles. It has no suspension and is a pleasure to ride 20 miles every day with a bit of light dirt tracking at the weekends.


Wise bloke :thumbsup:

Why change something for the sake of change ;-)
#29
Surprised to see this go hot after posting 4 weeks ago, but for the price and the fact its branded would make most casual cyclists happy, especially as the reviews on amazon are good.
#30
I've never gone for suspension bikes, I find them to be way to heavy. Whearas my friend has they've all fallen to bits.

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