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#1
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#2
I couldn't seem to work out if those are the only 4 discs on offer. Is that it or are there more to choose from?

Not the most important thing here though - looks like a great deal.
#3
V good price and voted hot - but is anyone actually bothered about buying a blu-ray player?

I get the impression take-up has been slow even after the HD format war. I bought the Sony DVD/PVR posted here a week ago for about £140, I expect to get about 5yrs use out of it. In terms of price v function why would I buy a machine that's only a player for more cash?
banned#4
Voted hot! Great price and great machine. Bought mine a few months ago and had Spiderman Trilogy and the three Pirates Of The Caribbean movies by redemption.
#5
Sybarite;2670615
V good price and voted hot - but is anyone actually bothered about buying a blu-ray player?

I get the impression take-up has been slow even after the HD format war. I bought the Sony DVD/PVR posted here a week ago for about £140, I expect to get about 5yrs use out of it. In terms of price v function why would I buy a machine that's only a player for more cash?


Take up has been slow because of the price, Upscaling DVD player = £50, BD player = £200 most people will not notice £150 worth of difference. Fortunately, the price is at least moving down, it seems to have stayed stubbornly high for no reason.
#6
Sybarite
V good price and voted hot - but is anyone actually bothered about buying a blu-ray player?

I get the impression take-up has been slow even after the HD format war. I bought the Sony DVD/PVR posted here a week ago for about £140, I expect to get about 5yrs use out of it. In terms of price v function why would I buy a machine that's only a player for more cash?


Why would you buy a BD player you ask?

Well ermmmm to play BD discs I would have thought. Pretty straight forward really.

If you dont want to play BD discs or cant see the difference, don't buy it.
#7
Wingnut
Take up has been slow because of the price, Upscaling DVD player = £50, BD player = £200 most people will not notice £150 worth of difference. Fortunately, the price is at least moving down, it seems to have stayed stubbornly high for no reason.


In fairness, I don't think it's so much that people can't notice the difference between 480p and 1080i, more that we all still remember what it was like to buy DVD players. I bought one of the first £99.99 units available in the country, and it was good, but the discs weren't cheap. I was paying about £20 for a disc back then.

Seven years later, discs can be bought for anything from a couple of quid (Withnail & I, Donnie Darko, X-Men, etc) to about £15 for the double-disc special edition, and players can be bought for a tenner. I think most people consider it a bit steep that the industry's put the price up by 10 times just for a bit of added sharpness, and that's what's putting folk off.
#8
stealing my post...tut tut
#9
Liam5170
stealing my post...tut tut


Different Retailer!
Different Price!
#10
trytrytryagain
Different Retailer!
Different Price!


Tut tut
#11
Liam5170
Tut tut

Prices change on daily basis. If it wasn't for people updating the deals and finding the cheapest prices many people would be looking at your thread and be paying £20 more.
Thus the reason to start a new thread with a different retailer and lower price.
#12
trytrytryagain
Prices change on daily basis. If it wasn't for people updating the deals and finding the cheapest prices many people would be looking at your thread and be paying £20 more.
Thus the reason to start a new thread with a different retailer and lower price.


You could have just put it in my thread but hey thats your choise
#13
dxx
In fairness, I don't think it's so much that people can't notice the difference between 480p and 1080i, more that we all still remember what it was like to buy DVD players. I bought one of the first £99.99 units available in the country, and it was good, but the discs weren't cheap. I was paying about £20 for a disc back then.

Seven years later, discs can be bought for anything from a couple of quid (Withnail & I, Donnie Darko, X-Men, etc) to about £15 for the double-disc special edition, and players can be bought for a tenner. I think most people consider it a bit steep that the industry's put the price up by 10 times just for a bit of added sharpness, and that's what's putting folk off.


I think the players need to reach the £100 mark before the masses will buy one. Its funny but you would have thought Sony et al would have been trying hard to increase the adoption but since chasing off HD-DVD as a format they seem to have been very quiet... it's a very simple equation ; more players = greater blu-ray disc sold.... or is Sony hoping that people just buy PS3' s instead ??? in which case the answer so far seems no they won't...

So a good deal at current prices but still too expensive in general imho.
#14
Liam5170
You could have just put it in my thread but hey thats your choise


bajesus!
#15
Broadsword
Why would you buy a BD player you ask?

Well ermmmm to play BD discs I would have thought. Pretty straight forward really.

I gathered that much :whistling:

If you dont want to play BD discs or cant see the difference, don't buy it.


Umm incisive, thanks for that contribution. I see the difference I just don't think releasing deliberately restricted consumer units is that clever if the industry wants consumer uptake.

Presumably it depends on your AV arrangement, but using a blu-ray player through a cheap LCD TV would seem to be a complete waste of time given the problems with colour saturation and movement ghosting inherent with LCD screens, especially cheap and nasty ones.

So in terms of progression; VHS to DVD, yep see the point, DVD-R great, hard drive PVR, even better. Blu-ray: so I get another box without anything else integrated so sit under the TV, urrrm ok.....
#16
Liam5170
You could have just put it in my thread but hey thats your choise


Yeah that's useful. Why would someone search a thread in the hope of a cheaper item than the one titled :roll:

Get a grip.
#17
Is there a region multi-region blu-ray player yet?
#18
until you can pick up players between £50 and £100 theres no point in moving away from DVD format (which on a lot of players isnt restricted nearly as much as BD in terms of region and what you can do with it)

at that point i may consider one (i was an early adopter of DVD, and it doesnt warrant enough of an upgrade so far)

people would be better off spending their money (plus a bit extra) on a mac mini (~£250 second hand off ebay) and running PLEX media centre (previously OSXBMC)... this will play HD videos off t'internet on your shiny new HD telly as well as a hell of a lot more (as you can use it as a normal computer)

got one a few months ago, its hooked up to my 32" samsung and thx certified surround sound reciever. sounds and looks fantastic. much better than BD.

plus, some BD players will be obsolete when they start doing interactive content and stuff that the PS3 is supposedly going to support...
#19
wanye
until you can pick up players between £50 and £100 theres no point in moving away from DVD format (which on a lot of players isnt restricted nearly as much as BD in terms of region and what you can do with it)

at that point i may consider one (i was an early adopter of DVD, and it doesnt warrant enough of an upgrade so far)

people would be better off spending their money (plus a bit extra) on a mac mini (~£250 second hand off ebay) and running PLEX media centre (previously OSXBMC)... this will play HD videos off t'internet on your shiny new HD telly as well as a hell of a lot more (as you can use it as a normal computer)

got one a few months ago, its hooked up to my 32" samsung and thx certified surround sound reciever. sounds and looks fantastic. much better than BD.

plus, some BD players will be obsolete when they start doing interactive content and stuff that the PS3 is supposedly going to support...


Mac mini has no hdmi though. And downloaded films won't be upto 1080p blu-ray spec for another 20-30 years when you can download 50gb of movie uncompressed. Blu-Ray is great if you've got a big tv for it and you will noticed loads of difference.
#20
Liam5170
You could have just put it in my thread but hey thats your choise

Not a good idea for two reasons I can think of: Will expire on different dates & Amazon offer will not be shown in search.
#21
Sony have just announced the release of the BD-S350 and BD-S550 players in the last few days:-

http://www.sony-europe.com/pressrelease/id/1217404938391
http://whathifi.com/Review/Sony-BDP-S350/

I've not even bought my HD TV yet but I'll be going for one of these new ones.
#22
wanye
until you can pick up players between £50 and £100 theres no point in moving away from DVD format (which on a lot of players isnt restricted nearly as much as BD in terms of region and what you can do with it)
.....
got one a few months ago, its hooked up to my 32" samsung and thx certified surround sound reciever. sounds and looks fantastic. much better than BD.
....


I agree with your comments re the pricing but downloading HD content will take allot of patience and a very understanding ISP.

I don't agree with your comment re "much better than BD" - its all down to the format 1920 x 1280 (1080i/1080p). The only thing you can do on a PC that you can't do on the latest BD players is run special software that allows more control of specific aspects of the picture such as sharpening etc (older players that are only 1.0 compatible won't be able to play the interactive content I believe)....
#23
Sybarite


Presumably it depends on your AV arrangement, but using a blu-ray player through a cheap LCD TV would seem to be a complete waste of time given the problems with colour saturation and movement ghosting inherent with LCD screens, especially cheap and nasty ones.



There's still an improvement over DVD regardless of what's wrong with your TV. DVD would show the same problems as BD. Or are you really saying that DVD would show none of those problems you mention but BD will, therefore nullifing any resolution improvement?

Not to mention the increased sound quality which is probably more apparant than the picture quality jump. Oh, but I guess you don't own a suitable amp to take advantage of that?

Why do people have to belittle HD disc players when its obvious they have no idea of the benefits never mind own the kit to take advantage of one. If you did have the kit then you would see the difference is very very tangible. Until then, just stick with your £19.99 Tevion upscaller and pretend its HD quality like the rest of them.
#24
wanye
until you can pick up players between £50 and £100 theres no point in moving away from DVD format (which on a lot of players isnt restricted nearly as much as BD in terms of region and what you can do with it)

at that point i may consider one (i was an early adopter of DVD, and it doesnt warrant enough of an upgrade so far)

people would be better off spending their money (plus a bit extra) on a mac mini (~£250 second hand off ebay) and running PLEX media centre (previously OSXBMC)... this will play HD videos off t'internet on your shiny new HD telly as well as a hell of a lot more (as you can use it as a normal computer)

got one a few months ago, its hooked up to my 32" samsung and thx certified surround sound reciever. sounds and looks fantastic. much better than BD.

plus, some BD players will be obsolete when they start doing interactive content and stuff that the PS3 is supposedly going to support...


In order of your points......

You can buy region free BD players now. Plus theres more region free US BD discs than there are region free DVD's.

Your HD downloads are compressed BD rips about 25% of the full bitrate fo most BD discs and are not BD quality. They also don't have HD audio. So to say they are jsut as good as BD is wrong.

The PS3 already is 2.0 specced as are most the newer BD players being released these days. This one isn't however but Im sure the news ones will be. Plus they wont be obsolete either, just you wont be able to do the interactive stuff. The film and extras will continue to be fine for years to come.
#25
SimbaK2K
Mac mini has no hdmi though. And downloaded films won't be upto 1080p blu-ray spec for another 20-30 years when you can download 50gb of movie uncompressed. Blu-Ray is great if you've got a big tv for it and you will noticed loads of difference.


Umm, this is true from a technical point of view but for most people, no, they won't really notice the difference between a HD download film at 720p and Blu-Ray (although of course you don't need 50Gb to download a Blu-Ray movie as that space includes multiple audio tracks, menus and special features). And it won't be 20 years until 50Gb downloads are practical either, maybe another 5 to 10 depending on how quickly the infrastructure goes in but considering even a basic 8Mb ADSL line can pull down 700Kb/sec you could do it currently in... just over 19 hours. If you figure an average movie is 2 hours long then, in theory, we need a speed increase of roughly 10x, so 80Mb, to download a 50Gb movie in the time it takes to watch it. Considering that, for example, Pixar's "Cars" comes in at about 27Gb then you actually need a boost to around a 40Mb connection. We already have 24Mb ADSL in the UK...

Anyway, sorry, on topic. I'm not so sure about this player. It's a Profile 1.0 unit so no BD Live, no picture in picture and a lot of special features aren't going to work on this deck. Plus there's no Dolby True HD, DTS HD and DTS HD Master Audio decoding which means that for anyone without a suitable decoder you won't get the most out of Blu-Ray with this deck. A good deal for the unit though so voted hot, but I'd strongly suggest being very careful about your needs and checking to make sure this player will meet them.
#26
Broadsword
Why do people have to belittle HD disc players when its obvious they have no idea of the benefits never mind own the kit to take advantage of one.


I'm aware of the benefits, they're not exactly difficult to understand; and they'e fine if you're an early adopter & don't mind the hefty premium, but they just seem relatively limited IMHO: as I pointed out the limited functionality from this box seems absurd given that we now have PVRs and DVD-R.

I've only ever seen about 2-3 Plasma/LCD screens that I though were any good anyway and am quite happy to use a CRT as I prefer the picture (I may change if OLED proves to be any cop). I'm also perfectly happy with my Sony Hard Drive DVD-R which was phemonemally expensive when purchased 5 or so years ago - when I thought early adoption offered the benefit of lots of new functionality. HD is all very nice but seems a bit 'keep up with the Jones' ' to get a new AV set-up for the sake of it.
#27
Gave you some Rep. Good if you're looking for stand alone player
#28
Is there any multiregion hack for DVD playback?
#29
dxx;2670840
In fairness, I don't think it's so much that people can't notice the difference between 480p and 1080i, more that we all still remember what it was like to buy DVD players. I bought one of the first £99.99 units available in the country, and it was good, but the discs weren't cheap. I was paying about £20 for a disc back then.

Seven years later, discs can be bought for anything from a couple of quid (Withnail & I, Donnie Darko, X-Men, etc) to about £15 for the double-disc special edition, and players can be bought for a tenner. I think most people consider it a bit steep that the industry's put the price up by 10 times just for a bit of added sharpness, and that's what's putting folk off.

i rember paying 350 pounds for my toshiba dvd player , brother in law bought a marantz for 600 pounds at the same time lol
was 99.99 for a budget player?
#31
What I find ridiculous with all HD players is that the manufacturers want you to fork out £200-£300 on a new player...when the new player is so lacking in features & functionality that it doesn't even replace the existing DVD player you already have!!

I would be on the Blu-Ray train by now, regardless of the £180 price tag, if I could replace my existing £60 Sony upscaling DVD player with the new Blu-Ray player...but I can't because the reasonably priced Blu-Ray players don't even play DivX!!!!!

That means I'd have to keep my existing player to watch DivX movies, plus add the new Blu-Ray player to my existing A/V rack...what's the point in paying top dollar for all that inconvenience?

A serious reason IMO why uptake has been so slow...at the moment comsumers are better off buying a PS3 which plays Blu-Rays, DVDs and DivX (as well as streaming media directly from a PC) than a standalone Blu-Ray player. But I simply don't want a third games console cluttering my shelf (especially since I wouldn't want it for games)...so there's no chance of that happening.

It's sad IMO that manufacturers make it so difficult to get on board their train...when will they learn?
suspended#32
decent price but the new players are out next month so those prepared to pay £180 should hold out really and pay an extra £50 or so and get the new features, lower power usage, smaller player etc really.

We are still about 9 months off players that come out of the box being able to play all HD audio formats and all blu-ray profiles, even the players out next month cant do 1 of the hd codecs out of the box nor profile 2.0 which is crazy, a firmware update will be issued instead. I reckon in 9 months time you will get a fully functioning bluray player that can do everything for £150.
#33
Very good price but I´ll stick to my PS3 I think :)
#34
The reviews aren't great but it is cheap for a BR player.

On the Blue Ray region coding (multiregion) front - many can play DVDs as multiregion, but not many will play Blue Ray as multiregion - the two abilities are VERY seperate.

There are several BR players that are shown as multiregion but when you read the small print it is only for DVDs - NOT Blue Ray DVDs.

Don't get caught out please.
#35
Sybarite
In terms of price v function why would I buy a machine that's only a player for more cash?

Because you have a TV larger than 42" and don't really want to watch a blurry pixellated mess? (OK so dvd isn't THAT bad on a large screen TV - but it's not exactly stunning looking either).
#36
very poor selection of films it comes with, wouldn't buy any of them through choice:?
#37
RyCha
What I find ridiculous with all HD players is that the manufacturers want you to fork out £200-£300 on a new player...when the new player is so lacking in features & functionality that it doesn't even replace the existing DVD player you already have!!

I would be on the Blu-Ray train by now, regardless of the £180 price tag, if I could replace my existing £60 Sony upscaling DVD player with the new Blu-Ray player...but I can't because the reasonably priced Blu-Ray players don't even play DivX!!!!!

That means I'd have to keep my existing player to watch DivX movies, plus add the new Blu-Ray player to my existing A/V rack...what's the point in paying top dollar for all that inconvenience?

A serious reason IMO why uptake has been so slow...at the moment comsumers are better off buying a PS3 which plays Blu-Rays, DVDs and DivX (as well as streaming media directly from a PC) than a standalone Blu-Ray player. But I simply don't want a third games console cluttering my shelf (especially since I wouldn't want it for games)...so there's no chance of that happening.

It's sad IMO that manufacturers make it so difficult to get on board their train...when will they learn?


Why should they be bothered in inconveniencing you by making it harder for you to download your pirated Divx movies?

Seriously, Im sure they are gutted that they don't have you as a customer.

Plus Divx and Xvid are nearly outdated codecs anyway, all the trendy downloaders are using mkv now. Maybe you could have a moan that the BD players dont play that either?

Unless of course you are going to tell me theres a source of legit Divx discs to be purchased from somewhere?
#38
Broadsword,

MKV is a container, not a codec. If you must post pointless drivel, make sure it's factual pointless drivel.
#39
CutPricePete
Broadsword,

MKV is a container, not a codec. If you must post pointless drivel, make sure it's factual pointless drivel.


Pedant.

I didn't say mkv was a codec did I?

But just for you h264 or vc1 wrapped in a mkv container.

Can I have a meaningful reply now?
#40
If you have a camcorder and want to convert these home videos to DVD, then xvid, divx is a prime candidate, and entirely legal.

I really don't understand you hostility towards RyCha, who, for whatever reason, wants divx compatibility.

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