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WD Green 4TB Desktop Internal SATA Hard Drive - OEM - £114.39 Inc delivery sold by 'Take a Bite' on Amazon

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Noticed this while I was looking for components on my new build. Price is £110.00 + £4.39 for UK postage. Seems pretty good to me, seller has a 98% positive rating over the past 12 months. Slightly…
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Johnmcl7
bally12345
Product appears to be under review I would wait and get direct from amazon.

It depends if they're going to sort their packaging or not, I don't know if it's the reason for review but apparently Amazon's recent packaging for hard drives has been a joke. Normally I'd go with amazon for hard drives as they're good for returns but I'd want to make sure they're properly packaging the drives.

The external Hitachi drives can't be removed from the enclosure without breaking the drives as mentioned above an you lose the warranty, at least when I last looked into Hitachi weren't recognising the bare drives for returns.

John

Here's how my HDD turned up today, just for those of you who seem to be worried about delivery which was also pretty prompt considering they're not listed as a prime seller.

http://i.imgur.com/4RcjCdo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dl7wnLR.jpg
Dinth
Strange, i still have every Seagate hdd ive ever bought in fully working condition (not that im using most of them). Oldest one is like 10 years old. Never had much to do with WD, i think i had 2GB drive long time ago and it failed after three or four years. Only drives which i had real problems with were Samsung and Fujitsu.
aszu
All those anecdotal experiences with different brands mentioned by various users in this thread are essentially useless.

You need hundreds/thousands of disks in a consistent, controlled environment in order to make any valuable findings - otherwise you just measure your environment (not drives) or the sample is not statistically significant.

There was a good study made by Google a couple of years ago, it did not find strong correlation between brand and reliability:

http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf

As 'aszu' says, you need a large sample size in a controlled environment to truly measure manufacturer/model reliability.

There has never (to my knowledge and extensive research) been a scientifically-accurate study done for this.

However, from my extensive experience (both personally having bought dozens of drives and professionally as an IT administrator for around 100 employees as well as external support), Seagates are the worst major brand for reliability, WD are by far the best (assuming you don't buy badly-packaged ones from Amazon lol).

This is further corroborated by studies I have seen (although these weren't 100% scientific), as well as various other IT professionals.

It would be so much better if someone could just do a scientific study so that this can be proven one way of the other.

dck
Samsung HDDs were very good, I've had several 1TB drives and not one failure. BUT, they sold out to Seagate, closed the factory, and now the drives are just rebadged Seagates. Avoid at all costs!

Good to know - I will avoid like the plague :) WD all the way!
bally12345
Product appears to be under review I would wait and get direct from amazon.


It depends if they're going to sort their packaging or not, I don't know if it's the reason for review but apparently Amazon's recent packaging for hard drives has been a joke. Normally I'd go with amazon for hard drives as they're good for returns but I'd want to make sure they're properly packaging the drives.

The external Hitachi drives can't be removed from the enclosure without breaking the drives as mentioned above an you lose the warranty, at least when I last looked into Hitachi weren't recognising the bare drives for returns.

John
aszu
All those anecdotal experiences with different brands mentioned by various users in this thread are essentially useless.

You need hundreds/thousands of disks in a consistent, controlled environment in order to make any valuable findings - otherwise you just measure your environment (not drives) or the sample is not statistically significant.

There was a good study made by Google a couple of years ago, it did not find strong correlation between brand and reliability:

http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//archive/disk_failures.pdf

A 7+ year old report that doesn't even compare brands available then? Come on, you can do better than that. :(
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Hard Drive - WD 2TB Green @ amazon - £61.74

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I found this while searching for a new HDD after an old one stopped working. in the style menu, chose FFP. there is no much info in the webpage: (More info added 03/01/2014) size: 2TB speed…
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Hot! I needed to replace my old drives as they are nearly out of warranty....
640gb Black > 2TB Green (music, photos & docs)
640gb Black > 3TB Black (games, movies, swap disk)
splender
Aradria
Got one for storage, it does the job fine. However the seek times are slow, it would be advisable to get a more performance-oriented drive (such as WD Black, or ideally an SSD) if you're going to install Windows on it.
I have a WD Black drive, only made a material difference when reading hundreds of megabytes frequently or high I/O ops, otherwise it made no discernible difference to internet browsing, mail, office, photo browsing type of operations which vast majority of people do nearly all of the time. The reason is that most frequently used operations are probably and data already cached or in RAM memory. For the extra money you can possibly do better by having an additional cheaper disk either to run raid or spread your data across two groups of heads on different disks for consumers. I would say in general as well as specialised home use (we use it in music rendering of large sample libraries which vary from tens of MBs to GBs) the WD black is for use in business servers, such as databases,for example.
For a better performance you may want to consider the WD Blue series which is more standard and uses more energy than the green but the energy is tiny anyway as drives are specified at 6.8 watts when reading and writing so even another 30% saving is 2 watts.

I'd say for most folks the black isn't a particularly "bleeding edge" drive. If you want something a bit quicker for home it's not such a huge premium. Databases generally need MUCH better I/O than the 140ish the black provides (speaking as an OCP). I'd say the market for the black was more a low level gamer who can't afford/needs more space than an SSD.

Edited By: mercutio98uk on Jan 03, 2014 20:38
These work nicely as a bulk raid device for your main system (when used with a backup!). 2/4 of these in raid 1/10 will cover a decent sized library of movies or music (or even games though you might want to put some form of SSD caching in front). As a main system drive though, these aren't really very suitable, get something smaller for system and these for everything else.
Hot! Flubbed this for £54.24.
madmackem
£68.84 now

Under "Style Name", in the dropdown menu, you need to chose FFP. It's still showing £61.74
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