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kenable FLAT CAT6 Ethernet LAN Patch Cable Low Profile GIGABIT RJ45 10m WHITE £3.70 delivered @ amazon sold by kenable_ltd.

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I was looking for a white flat networking cable (so it compliments my walls and can go under doors) and plan to stick it on the wall with some clear double sided tape. Cheaper and faster alternative i…
kartgosu Avatar2y, 5m agoFound 2 years, 5 months ago30 Comments
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I don't understand - ethernet cables do not degrade gracefully like ADSL broadband connections. You either get the full speed (be it 100 or 1000 megabits per second) or you get horrendous data corruption. Maybe your original cable was only 2 pair so would only do 100Mbits/sec?

Edited By: pibpob on Jun 14, 2014 21:20
Thank you kartgosu for this post the cable is excellent quality speed test original cat5 95mb this cat6 125mb chuffed.
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There's nothing wrong with UTP in this application - it is used everywhere.
What application is that?
Patch cords.

I don't see how this is relevant. Whether it's patch or crossover, it doesn't matter these days as technological advancements can auto detect what type of cable you are using.

The issue with UTP vs STP is that of signal quality. You will get interference in UTP and thus lower transfer rates as opposed to using STP cable, which will eliminate interference and thus increased data transfer rates.
Yes, I know it doesn't matter whether it's a straight-through or a crossover cable, but that is irrelevant.

What I mean is that they are far shorter than the specification caters for, and they are used in an environment where there is not a lot of interference about. "Signal quality" is irrelevant so long as the probability of corruption is small enough, and therfore the number of retries is insignificant, and therefore the affect on speed is, in practice, nil. This is like the silly HDMI cables debate - you're getting hung up on something which in theory provides an advantage but in the application where it's used in practice provides no advantage at all. UTP is the standard for these things. Don't use a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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There's nothing wrong with UTP in this application - it is used everywhere.
What application is that?
Patch cords.

I don't see how this is relevant. Whether it's patch or crossover, it doesn't matter these days as technological advancements can auto detect what type of cable you are using.

The issue with UTP vs STP is that of signal quality. You will get interference in UTP and thus lower transfer rates as opposed to using STP cable, which will eliminate interference and thus increased data transfer rates.
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Cold from me you can get 15m for £1 in poundland
Not 'Flat'.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416XN3hQYgL._SL1000_.jpg

And those cheap cables are CCA, not copper
I agree CCA is nasty, but I don't see why it would affect performance unless the cable is moved about a lot as it's more brittle than pure copper. It's taking advantage of the fact that there is amplification at either end of the cable, and the cable is a lot shorter than the spec for copper requires.
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Kenable 10m CAT6, Copper, Foiled Twisted Pair, Snagless, GigaBit, Ethernet Cable £9.30 Delivered (or £8.68 direct from Kenable) @ Amazon.co.uk sold by kenable_ltd.

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I have been looking for an Ethernet cable and saw the amount of nonsense cables posted on hotukdeals from ebay. Those cheap cables are most likely CCA (Copper Clad Aluminium), which do not give ver…
badzed Avatar2y, 8m agoFound 2 years, 8 months ago27 Comments
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You can also order the Duronic cable 15m in length for £11.24 delivered actually,
or for £7.25 if you order with something else to make up to £10 to qualify for free delivery.

I should have posted this deal on hotukdeals but the black colour put me off.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0040Y1LNW/

This is actually what I ordered now. I ordered a Crimper tool (for £2.94) as well to make up £10 to qualify for free delivery. I got a bag of 10 Ethernet plugs as well from ebay for a couple of quid so that I can cut the cable up, as I need to thread it through a hole in the wall anyway.

So I got the 15m Duronic cable for £7.25 :D

I only need around 7.5m so will have exactly half of this cable as spare. So will be able to use it again if the first half becomes damaged or will be able to split them shorter for other uses.

Only problem is the colour is black. But at this price, I'm willing to sacrifice. I will just paint over them with white paint next time I paint my walls and stairs lol. Besides, I can't even find a white coloured 10m cat6 STP copper cable for around 10 quid.



Edited By: badzed on Apr 03, 2014 17:32: -
The Duronic ones are foiled STP (triple foil):

Duronic (£10.76 delivered)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003CL99FQ

The Kenable ones are FTP (single foil):

Kenable (£9.30 delivered)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004US2VSM

If you don't care about shielding or will have other UTP cables around it, then just get a UTP cable from World of Data:

World of Data (£11.94 delivered unless your order is over £10, in which case it will cost £7.95)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002K6Y6O8



Edited By: badzed on Apr 04, 2014 23:15: -
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Does anyone know of a good cable with the following functions:

Cat6
Copper (not CCA - Copper Clad Aluminium)
STP (not FTP or UTP)

I need to thread the cable through a small hole and then put the clip back on, so possible a cable with a removable clip. Or can purchase wire on it's own and clips on their own and join them myself if it's fairly easy to do.

Just to answer my own request. There is no point in getting STP (shielded twisted pair) cable if your whole system isn't shielded. STP only makes sense if every other data line is also shielded, otherwise interference will most likely reach the cable from the outside (although it should be reduced due to the shielding of the cable.)

Removing the RJ45 plugs and installing new ones is a basic task lol! I thought it was a lot more complicated where you have to strip each wire and cumbersomely insert the eight wires one at a time and fiddle about until you got them inside. But it's a straight forward automated task using a cheap crimp tool or even a normal pair of pliers if you're careful. You'll also need some scissors if you don't have wire strippers and some pointy object to push down on the pins on the RJ45 plug. But a Crimp tools makes this job hassle free.

Given you've answered your own Q re. STP; do you know if that applies to any form of shielding? Given that the cables in this deal are FTP - would that mean the entire network these are used on need to be FTP, otherwise the FTP will cause more issues with interference?
Does it matter that much in a home environment, where max cable length of any of the cables in use is likely to be 30m or so, and most cables will be less than this.

As long as the cable is pure copper, I don't think it matters much even if you use an UTP over an STP (shielded). FTP (foiled) is in between.

UTP cables have no shielding, just a twisted pair of wires running through the plastic sheath.
FTP cables have a foil shield that wraps around the pair of wires and then is wrapped within the plastic sheath. This provides protection from external electromagnetic interference.
STP cables have foild between the two wires in the twisted pair and around the outside of both, all of which is then wrapped within the plastic sheath. Thus, this protects the wires from external electromagnetic interference and from cross-talk between the wires.

So

STP > FTP > UTP

But I have read that if you want to use STP cables, there is no point when other cables around it are UTP. That's because even though the STP cable will keep the signal inside itself, the other UTP cables around it will have their signals leaked out and interfere with the STP cable, although this interference will be reduced. But can't say by how much. It really depends on your infrastructure and what type of cabling you have going on.

But generally, if you want to squeeze every last megabyte of data, or maybe even kilobytes of data, then you would want to get the best shielded cable.


Edited By: badzed on Apr 04, 2014 12:59: -
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Does anyone know of a good cable with the following functions:

Cat6
Copper (not CCA - Copper Clad Aluminium)
STP (not FTP or UTP)

I need to thread the cable through a small hole and then put the clip back on, so possible a cable with a removable clip. Or can purchase wire on it's own and clips on their own and join them myself if it's fairly easy to do.

Just to answer my own request. There is no point in getting STP (shielded twisted pair) cable if your whole system isn't shielded. STP only makes sense if every other data line is also shielded, otherwise interference will most likely reach the cable from the outside (although it should be reduced due to the shielding of the cable.)

Removing the RJ45 plugs and installing new ones is a basic task lol! I thought it was a lot more complicated where you have to strip each wire and cumbersomely insert the eight wires one at a time and fiddle about until you got them inside. But it's a straight forward automated task using a cheap crimp tool or even a normal pair of pliers if you're careful. You'll also need some scissors if you don't have wire strippers and some pointy object to push down on the pins on the RJ45 plug. But a Crimp tools makes this job hassle free.

Given you've answered your own Q re. STP; do you know if that applies to any form of shielding? Given that the cables in this deal are FTP - would that mean the entire network these are used on need to be FTP, otherwise the FTP will cause more issues with interference?
Does it matter that much in a home environment, where max cable length of any of the cables in use is likely to be 30m or so, and most cables will be less than this.
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All those people voting cold, could you post alternative ones you've found. I'd really like to know since I am still looking for a cable.
I posted this deal to get some feedback and suggestions before I make the purchase, as this is the cheapest and best cable I found.

There are lot of mixed views about these cables lol.

This deal went freeezing down to around -160 to begin with. It then climbed up to a warm around +40. And now it has been sitting on exactly freezing point of water at zero degrees.

Too many people who think that solid copper cables should be the same price as the CCA crap sold on scumbay.
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