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#1
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?
#2
Crikey I am not up to date on the CPU market... But that seems cheap for that speed!?
1 Like #3
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less
#4
be great for a media centre build.
19 Likes #5
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.



Edited By: Sir_Didymus on Jul 18, 2014 19:57: More info
#6
Mental how cheap CPU's are these days compared to a few years ago! Heat added!
1 Like #7
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.

http://tobidornot.com/wp-uploads/photo/md-a4-5300-cpu-gpu-3-4ghz-3-6ghz-turbo.jpg

First time I see someone posting a complete setup for less technical folks out there, props (and heat added)
#8
Easy pc build. Great
#9
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.



Can you suggest a graphics card to go with that which would handle something like Skyrim online?
#10
iceman85
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.

http://tobidornot.com/wp-uploads/photo/md-a4-5300-cpu-gpu-3-4ghz-3-6ghz-turbo.jpg

First time I see someone posting a complete setup for less technical folks out there, props (and heat added)

Yea just remember a hard drive or ssd, I picked up a 128gb ssd for £37 recently
1 Like #11
Jonnyblock
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.



Can you suggest a graphics card to go with that which would handle something like Skyrim online?

Skyrim needs a fairly decent CPU more than a graphics card. The A4 would struggle. The A6 would play it in low settings with no need for an extra card and I've played it with an A8 5500 and it plays fairly well on low to medium.

The AMD A series CPUs have built in graphics, meaning you don't need an extra card for some tasks and even some games.

However, a £70-odd AMD 7750 2GB would improve things a lot.

Edited By: pbyron1 on Jul 19, 2014 00:07
#12
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.



Brilliant this is the sort of thing I'm after. Would it be good to base a server build around this?
#13
nekoangel
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less

CPU might be the same price but you'd be paying a few quid more on the motherboard :P And for some purposes the integrated graphics are usefully better on the AMD!

And nice build there Sir_Didymus, ideal family PC. Not that those seem to exist anymore, what with laptops and tablets everywhere!
1 Like #14
Jonnyblock
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.



Can you suggest a graphics card to go with that which would handle something like Skyrim online?

You'd probably want to look at a different build entirely, this is only for very low end stuff (e.g. low graphic indie games). Also I assume you meant Elder Scrolls Online as Skyrim Online doesn't exist.
#15
is it worth the beginner building their own when ready built are roughly same price? £182 del.
http://m.ebuyer.com/644856
also an a6 and for £208. especially when you consider extras like delivery costs, HDD, data cables , fans thermal compound , operating system etc.. (it is missing dvdrw )
#16
adrianeaton
is it worth the beginner building their own when ready built are roughly same price? £182 del.
http://m.ebuyer.com/644856
also an a6 and for £208. especially when you consider extras like delivery costs, HDD, data cables , fans thermal compound , operating system etc.. (it is missing dvdrw )

That's not a bad build for the price. Most things are moving digital, so you could do without a DVD drive for now, anyway. External drives are only £20 anyway.

The only thing I'd say is that if you built something with that low spec I'd be tempted to try and use a much smaller case and a mini-ATX board so you could use it as a media machine.

But, yeah, unless you literally just want to do email and web browsing then go for A6 as a minimum.

Also worth noting that the AMD A series has seen several models and each one is an improvement over the last, so worth checking whether it's Trinity (second gen) or Kaveri (latest gen) as the built in graphics are better.
#17
is it worth the beginner building their own when ready built are roughly same price? £182 del.
http://m.ebuyer.com/644856
also an a6 and for £208. especially when you consider extras like delivery costs, HDD, data cables , fans thermal compound , operating system etc.. (it is missing dvdrw )

Somewhere on a pre built budget system corners are cut, things like the case, PSU or fans. Am not saying they are bad or will not work but they are more likely to be noisy or fail than ones that you can by for a few pounds more.
Usually in systems suxh as Zoostorm the PSU is generic rather than a named brand.
The advantage to the Zoostorm is that it has Windows already installed saving on having to buy and install it yourself. Installing Windows is a breeze to install though you need to budget around £50 probably (at least) for a copy of Windows.
Personally i like to put the components all together, somehow to me it then feels more my own.
#18
biggest problem with the zoomstore, is that the mobo could be limited and also that psu in it is only 250w. which will need to be replaced if you want to put a pci-e gfx card in.

For those who are looking at a media server look at the am1 platform with a pci-e raid card ..
#19
What a great price for a retail CPU! :)
#20
Sir_Didymus
klopikxda
Can anyone recomend other parts to build cheapest working PC with case ?

If you want to build on a very tight budget with this CPU then try the following:

CPU - AMD A4 5300 £26.36 from Amazon

MOBO - MSI A55M-E33 Micro ATX £28.98 from Amazon

RAM - 4GB 1600 DDR3 from various places around £30

PSU - All sorts of cheap 80+ Bronze rated Power Supplies from EVGA on Amazon/Novatech and other places for like £30 ranging from 350w to 500w. Or for £5 more you can get a modular one.

Case: Zalman T4 Mini £20 or Fractal Design Core 1000 £25 on eBuyer

Optical drive: Around £10 for Samsung or Lite-On DVD-RW or just PM me I'll send you one of my old ones for free

So you'd be spending max £150 for that build. Should be a decent PC for web browsing, office applications, media (XBMC) etc

For £15 more you could get the quadcore A6 6400k CPU from Amazon priced at £42. Much much faster. That will just up your total build cost to £165 ish.




A6-6400k is only dual core innit?
#21
Good price
#22
Awaken
nekoangel
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less

CPU might be the same price but you'd be paying a few quid more on the motherboard :P And for some purposes the integrated graphics are usefully better on the AMD!

And nice build there Sir_Didymus, ideal family PC. Not that those seem to exist anymore, what with laptops and tablets everywhere!

ive got a board lined up for mine thats around 30 quid, ive only gone intel over amd so as to add independent gpu.

ive priced up a few builds lately for my HTPC and for new tech intel feels stronger to me. im stil undecided though what platform would be better for the HTPC.

what would you all go for out of these for general HTPC?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/yxbkcf

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/XxsmP6

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/94PKHx

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/h6DJ7P
banned#23
nekoangel
Awaken
nekoangel
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less

CPU might be the same price but you'd be paying a few quid more on the motherboard :P And for some purposes the integrated graphics are usefully better on the AMD!

And nice build there Sir_Didymus, ideal family PC. Not that those seem to exist anymore, what with laptops and tablets everywhere!

ive got a board lined up for mine thats around 30 quid, ive only gone intel over amd so as to add independent gpu.

ive priced up a few builds lately for my HTPC and for new tech intel feels stronger to me. im stil undecided though what platform would be better for the HTPC.

what would you all go for out of these for general HTPC?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/yxbkcf

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/XxsmP6

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/94PKHx

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/h6DJ7P


I'd personally go for the Intel build. Only issue i see is the case which looks terrible and is not for sale anywhere. Try this instead : http://m.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/mediacentrecases/nov-vision.html

Reason is go intel is the stronger cpu performance, lower power consumption and the fact the Intel graphics are perfectly adequate for htpc work.
#24
Ah sorry f9egot to mention I already have the case. Cheap ebay job on that. So I just left it in all the builds.

U was leaving much more towards intel as I can add a 750ti down the road.
#25
nekoangel
Awaken
nekoangel
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less

CPU might be the same price but you'd be paying a few quid more on the motherboard :P And for some purposes the integrated graphics are usefully better on the AMD!

And nice build there Sir_Didymus, ideal family PC. Not that those seem to exist anymore, what with laptops and tablets everywhere!

ive got a board lined up for mine thats around 30 quid, ive only gone intel over amd so as to add independent gpu.

ive priced up a few builds lately for my HTPC and for new tech intel feels stronger to me. im stil undecided though what platform would be better for the HTPC.

what would you all go for out of these for general HTPC?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/yxbkcf

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/XxsmP6

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/94PKHx

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/h6DJ7P

Had a little look, it depends on your usage really. For pure HTPC useage, speeds not the issue! The intel actually has integrated graphics as well as the AMD APU's, debatably the AMD Is superior though (definitely for gaming horsepower, for media PC use, not a lot in it)

Key thing for media PC is double check the motherboard you buy has the right outputs, a lot will only have VGA, ideally you want HDMI or at least DVI (which you can adapt to HDMI). As far as I know both intel integrated and AMD integrated GPUs are able to push audio out the back too, definitely on HDMI, most likely on DVI (assuming your adapter is wired up correctly) but definitely not over VGA.

On the RAM, you might want to go 8gb straight away (2x4), or 2 x 2gb - running a single stick would leave room for future upgrade, but you'd lose the dual channel speed benefits until then. Most of the time nowadays I try and pickup RAM used on ebay, it's remarkably robust, hard for idiots to break before you get it, and there's normally always someone selling what you ideally want for less than the cheapest option new. Go with 1600mhz 1.5v if you can get it without paying a premium (quite likely), more useful stuff to have hanging around in the future.
#26
Awaken
nekoangel
Awaken
nekoangel
It is good but at that price I'd go intel with g1820.

Heat added none the less

CPU might be the same price but you'd be paying a few quid more on the motherboard :P And for some purposes the integrated graphics are usefully better on the AMD!

And nice build there Sir_Didymus, ideal family PC. Not that those seem to exist anymore, what with laptops and tablets everywhere!

ive got a board lined up for mine thats around 30 quid, ive only gone intel over amd so as to add independent gpu.

ive priced up a few builds lately for my HTPC and for new tech intel feels stronger to me. im stil undecided though what platform would be better for the HTPC.

what would you all go for out of these for general HTPC?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/yxbkcf

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/XxsmP6

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/94PKHx

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nekoangel/saved/h6DJ7P

Had a little look, it depends on your usage really. For pure HTPC useage, speeds not the issue! The intel actually has integrated graphics as well as the AMD APU's, debatably the AMD Is superior though (definitely for gaming horsepower, for media PC use, not a lot in it)

Key thing for media PC is double check the motherboard you buy has the right outputs, a lot will only have VGA, ideally you want HDMI or at least DVI (which you can adapt to HDMI). As far as I know both intel integrated and AMD integrated GPUs are able to push audio out the back too, definitely on HDMI, most likely on DVI (assuming your adapter is wired up correctly) but definitely not over VGA.

On the RAM, you might want to go 8gb straight away (2x4), or 2 x 2gb - running a single stick would leave room for future upgrade, but you'd lose the dual channel speed benefits until then. Most of the time nowadays I try and pickup RAM used on ebay, it's remarkably robust, hard for idiots to break before you get it, and there's normally always someone selling what you ideally want for less than the cheapest option new. Go with 1600mhz 1.5v if you can get it without paying a premium (quite likely), more useful stuff to have hanging around in the future.


Yeah I'm kinda thinking the same. The board I have lined up in the intel build is the hdmi version of the board and ram speeds are maxed at 1333 via cpu.

There will probably be no gaming on it.
Any there is always the option of low profile add on card.

As for ram I've had no luck getting it any cheaper and may as well pay the extra pound or so for now stock and warranty.

Woukd you recomend amd if I can use ram over 1333?

I'm trying to grab one 4gb stick at first for sure. Even contemplated the adaptor for laptop ram as my laptop has 4gb in it and this box will replace it.
#27
nekoangel

Yeah I'm kinda thinking the same. The board I have lined up in the intel build is the hdmi version of the board and ram speeds are maxed at 1333 via cpu.

There will probably be no gaming on it.
Any there is always the option of low profile add on card.

As for ram I've had no luck getting it any cheaper and may as well pay the extra pound or so for now stock and warranty.

Woukd you recomend amd if I can use ram over 1333?

I'm trying to grab one 4gb stick at first for sure. Even contemplated the adaptor for laptop ram as my laptop has 4gb in it and this box will replace it.

Faster RAM you'd be hard pressed to notice, and certainly no reason to choose AMD over Intel, but you weren't looking very hard for an ebay bargain on the RAM - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151362513684 - £14 :) The reason I'd choose 1600mhz is more looking down the line - a PC is only ever a collection of bits brought together, and in future, you might want to re-arrange those bits, so no harm having better bits to play with! Say you have another PC with a 4gb stick, and you want to upgrade it, 1600 can run at 1333 but not the other way around! Saves nerfing yourself in future as yet unknown ways :)

As for an adapter for laptop ram in a desktop - I would avoid it like the plague. RAM can be a tetchy thing with regards to compatibility and stability anyway, even though things have improved in the last decade or so, I can't think of a bigger spanner to throw into the works than that. A humongously bad idea.

And back to CPU choice again, Intel are generally a better choice at the moment. It will be more capable and run cooler than the equivalent AMD, but the integrated graphics are going to be less swanky than on the APUs. You're right though, you can bung in a low profile graphics card - don't expect it to open up the world of gaming to any degree, but get a decent one and close the intel / AMD integrated graphics gap. Unfortunately, buying something low profile and non-ancient can cost more than you were expecting, and all of a sudden you could have gone for a much swankier AMD CPU than you were originally looking at, so do bear that in mind.
#28
Wow nice find. I got fed up sifting through server ram and couldn't find anything near 20 quid let alone 10.

Tnh I only ever play 1080p mp4 files or the odd 1080p mkv so it's not to demanding. I don't really see a reason to get a strong gpu for video unless I go 4k somewhere down the line but that's a discussion of another day.

There are new740 and 750 models that by the time I need them should. Be cheap. It all really depends where mainstream video and hardware goes.

Thanks for all your help though it's been awesome and since it's payday tomorrow I'm itching to purchase parts!

Also your sure that ram woukd be perfectly fine? Ram seems so hard to buy I feel like I'm confusing myself with numbers and ecc etc.
#29
90% sure it's the right stuff, seems to be plain unbuffered non-ecc from the part code they've listed. And np :) Hope you enjoy it! Going intel route yeah?
#30
Awaken
90% sure it's the right stuff, seems to be plain unbuffered non-ecc from the part code they've listed. And np :) Hope you enjoy it! Going intel route yeah?

i grabbed that ram you linked thanks.

i think intel is best. especially when im more than likely to add a card down the line it just seems smarter.

ive managed to find the mobo and cpu i want for 65 delivered which is the best price i can find anywhere then im all set!

well i want a cheap boot disk to i think but i have an old 120gb 2.5 drive laying around to test run with.
#31
nekoangel
Awaken
90% sure it's the right stuff, seems to be plain unbuffered non-ecc from the part code they've listed. And np :) Hope you enjoy it! Going intel route yeah?

i grabbed that ram you linked thanks.

i think intel is best. especially when im more than likely to add a card down the line it just seems smarter.

ive managed to find the mobo and cpu i want for 65 delivered which is the best price i can find anywhere then im all set!

well i want a cheap boot disk to i think but i have an old 120gb 2.5 drive laying around to test run with.

I would strongly recommend you go SSD for the boot drive - it doesn't have to be expensive either, as you can get away with fairly small. There's always a variety of oddities on ebay for a solid state boot drive, look for sata DOM (disk on modules), mini sata, micro sata and other wierd SSDs, plus uncased server pulls of low capacity sata SSDs. I've managed to eliminate pretty much every spinning disk boot drive on all my PC's for minimal outlay by picking up unusual SSDs :) Even the slowest of solid state drives around will tend to be much better as a boot drive than a 2.5" mechanical so don't get too hung up on specs. Oh you'll see a lot of chinese Kingspec drives around - your choice but I've never bothered trying them :) Most recently I picked up 2 x 64gb usata samsung drives, formerly from a dell windows tablet, for £22 the pair :) Adapters a couple of quid on top makes for some super cheap boot drives!

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