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AMD CPU Athlon 64 3800+ 64 bit 512Kb L2 Cache OEM Skt 939 £18.09 delivered £15.60

£15.60 @ Microdirect
Description The AMD Athlon processor is among the world's most powerful engines for PC computing, and represents the industry's first seventh-generation x86 microarchitecture. The AMD Athlon proces… Read More
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The AMD Athlon processor is among the world's most powerful engines for PC computing, and represents the industry's first seventh-generation x86 microarchitecture. The AMD Athlon processor family is designed to power the next generation in x86 computing platforms. It meets the computation-intensive requirements of cutting-edge software applications running on high-end desktop systems, workstations, and servers.
Business users who work with image processing, digital content creation, CAD/CAE, scientific applications and other computationally demanding software will benefit from the tremendous processing power of AMD Athlon processor-based systems. Computing enthusiasts who want the performance and clock speeds required to run the latest 3D gaming, entertainment, Internet, and personal productivity software will benefit from desktop systems powered by the AMD Athlon processor.
The AMD Athlon processor provides exceptional processing power on real world, mainstream Microsoft Windows compatible software, as well as computation-intensive applications for high-end desktops. These high-end workstation applications include digital photo editing, digital video, commercial 3D modeling, image compression, soft DVD, CAD, and speech recognition. Computing enthusiasts get exceptional performance for Internet applications, digital imaging, 3D gaming, and personal creativity software. The AMD Athlon processor's advanced multimedia architecture and 3D technology deliver rich images, fast frame rates, and accurate theater-quality sound. Business users get remarkable performance from AMD Athlon processor-based systems. Popular programs for desktop publishing, database, accounting, and other demanding business applications execute at fast speeds, resulting in exceptional levels of productivity. The enormous power of the AMD Athlon processor's visual computing capabilities allows users to unleash their creativity and deliver high impact Web designs and other dynamic communications to effectively reach and influence customers.

Specifications

General

Product Type
Processor
Processor

Type / Form Factor
AMD Athlon 64 3800+
64-bit Computing
Yes
Processor Qty
1
Clock Speed
2.4 GHz
Compatible Processor Socket
Socket 939
Cache Level 1 Size
128 KB
Core Voltage
1.35 V/1.4 V
Thermal Specification
65 °C
Architecture Features
HyperTransport technology, AMD64 technology, integrated memory controller, Enhanced Virus Protection
Cache Memory

Installed Size
L2 Cache - 512 KB
Expansion / Connectivity

Compatible Slots
1 x processor - Socket 939
Miscellaneous

Package Type
OEM/tray
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banned#1
why so cheap? lol
#2
Because it's an old processor, only single core, and not a particularly fast one at that.
banned#3
good chip - good price
#4
dapperdave
Because it's an old processor, only single core, and not a particularly fast one at that.


You are right and the cpu is not particularly fast one but not everyone needs the newest cpu while use computer to surf internet or work with office suit.
I have replaced my old AMD 3800+ single core cpu with Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140 overclocked to 3Ghz.Unless I play games or edit video, I do not see any difference in speed.High syntetic benchmark's results rather do not impress me...;)

If someone is looking for an upgrade of mobo with s939 - that is a perfect deal.
#5
I have an old s939 board and got one of these to cobble together a basic machine from my old spares. As 7777777 said, it's fine for a basic internet/Word machine.

I got mine from ebuyer and it was a couple of pound more expensive, so £18 delivered is a good deal. 18 months ago these processors were about £150 IIRC, so it was top of the line at one time :)
banned#6
dapperdave
Because it's an old processor, only single core, and not a particularly fast one at that.


whoops thought it was an AM2 phew my 4800+ 65nm AM2 is still worth something then, when I upgrade soon :thumbsup: actually just seen it's now £36.44 :-( wow I paid £75 last year
#7
7777777
You are right and the cpu is not particularly fast one but not everyone needs the newest cpu while use computer to surf internet or work with office suit.
I have replaced my old AMD 3800+ single core cpu with Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140 overclocked to 3Ghz.Unless I play games or edit video, I do not see any difference in speed.High syntetic benchmark's results rather do not impress me...;)

If someone is looking for an upgrade of mobo with s939 - that is a perfect deal.


I have a 4000+ and a 3500+ (I am system builder of 12 years) which are both overclocked slightly and run very quick (though I know it's all relative), even on the latest games if you have the right video card. I know this would not be first choice because of it's age, but it absolutely hammers the cra*ppy Celeron range (single core) which are still available at a higher price than this.
The problem with this is finding a motherboard as the socket 939's are obviously old and hard to come by. I had the opposite problem as I had a board and needed a CPU not so long ago. I think this a great deal if you have a board, and would make a perfect small server solution. The only thing that lets it down slightly is the Level 2 cache at 512kb (the 4000+ has 1024kb) but again, this would tend to affect games more.

I agree that benchmarks can be misleading compared to reality or real world situations, but there has to be some kind of test to gauge and compare.
banned#8
You cannot honestly tell me this CPU is only good for internet and work use simply because thats what we say about Intel Celerons and AMD Semprons both of which have a terrible cache and terrible clock therefore resulting in an alround poor performance. Which is why they are ideal for just your basic internet usage and office applications. And even these terrible chips, they do it well.

An AMD 64 3800+ is an amazing piece of architecture. Its not going to do things as fast as a Quad Core, sure. But it WILL play games. It WILL run vista and it WILL give you a great performing system.

AMD is always cheaper than Intel simply because their niche in the market has declined ever since the rise of the Pentium D and the failure that was the AMD Phantom. Due to this prices decline because everybody knows there is better stuff out there than what they offer.

All in all this chip will do everything you could throw at it. It will only begin to struggle when you try to do HD video editing, to which you WILL require a Quad Core.

Just because a chip is over a year old does not suddenly make it an office and internet chip.
#9
Looking for a quick piece of advice as I've not looked into a new PC build in almost a year. I've got an AM2 motherboard with an AMD 3800+ single core CPU and ATI X1800 XT graphics card. I'm looking to see where £100 would be best spend on the system, should I look into getting a Core 2 Duo CPU or upgrading the graphics card?
#10
socket 939 motherboard

Ebuyer - Asrock 939N68PV-GLAN £51.07 delivered with super saver

Great board i've just bought one
#11
BrianScott1980
Looking for a quick piece of advice as I've not looked into a new PC build in almost a year. I've got an AM2 motherboard with an AMD 3800+ single core CPU and ATI X1800 XT graphics card. I'm looking to see where £100 would be best spend on the system, should I look into getting a Core 2 Duo CPU or upgrading the graphics card?



Hi, You won't be able to use core 2 duo on a am2 board because it's an intel chip
#12
Worth noting that as its an OEM this processor will not come with a socket 939 CPU heatsink/fan, less importantly (due to excellent price) will also not have the same level of warranty an AMD retail boxed processor offers.

Voted hot for this price for any 939 Mobo owners wishing to upgrade.
#13
Would anyone know if this would be a worthy replacement in my ageing Skt 939 currently a little sluggish in Vista using a Athlon 64 3200 CPU and 2 x 512mb DDR. Doesn't seem like much of a better speed 2.4ghz than 2ghz that my current CPU has. Would just a memory upgrade to 2gb be better spent?
#14
cicobuff
Would anyone know if this would be a worthy replacement in my ageing Skt 939 currently a little sluggish in Vista using a Athlon 64 3200 CPU and 2 x 512mb DDR. Doesn't seem like much of a better speed 2.4ghz than 2ghz that my current CPU has. Would just a memory upgrade to 2gb be better spent?


If your using vista then more memory will definately be better
#15
cicobuff
Would anyone know if this would be a worthy replacement in my ageing Skt 939 currently a little sluggish in Vista using a Athlon 64 3200 CPU and 2 x 512mb DDR. Doesn't seem like much of a better speed 2.4ghz than 2ghz that my current CPU has. Would just a memory upgrade to 2gb be better spent?

You would be better spending your money on a memory upgrade I'd have thought, especially as you're running Vista. If you bought the CPU, you wouldn't notice any difference in speed in day-to-day use.
#16
mackenzie
If your using vista then more memory will definately be better


Thought so, thanks for that. Will look for deals on PC3200 Memory:thumbsup:
#17
cicobuff
Thought so, thanks for that. Will look for deals on PC3200 Memory:thumbsup:



Check out play.com they've got 1 gig kingstons for £24.99 delivered or pcworld have got PNY 1 gigs for £24.57 collect instore :thumbsup:
#18
cicobuff
Thought so, thanks for that. Will look for deals on PC3200 Memory:thumbsup:


dagwoood
You would be better spending your money on a memory upgrade I'd have thought, especially as you're running Vista. If you bought the CPU, you wouldn't notice any difference in speed in day-to-day use.


mackenzie
Check out play.com they've got 1 gig kingstons for £24.99 delivered or pcworld have got PNY 1 gigs for £24.57 collect instore :thumbsup:


Or better still I was thinkng of getting PC World to do the 110% Price beat on Play.com for a couple of PNY's, done this before now with laptop memory :thumbsup: Thanks for your advise guys, for the time being I will just increase memory. I don't think a memory upgrade and processor is necessary for me unless I can find a deal on a dual core AMD 64 939 processor where I am sure I would see a difference, else its just uprgrade time, which would mean an AM2 Mobo, DDR2 RAM and AM2 processor.
#19
cicobuff
Or better still I was thinkng of getting PC World to do the 110% Price beat on Play.com for a couple of PNY's, done this before now with laptop memory :thumbsup: Thanks for your advise guys, for the time being I will just increase memory. I don't think a memory upgrade and processor is necessary for me unless I can find a deal on a dual core AMD 64 939 processor where I am sure I would see a difference, else its just uprgrade time, which would mean an AM2 Mobo, DDR2 RAM and AM2 processor.


The pny memory isn't on play at the moment probably out of stock
#20
I can’t see much of a market for these chips as the Socket 939 platform seemed to have a range of 1.8 – 2.4GHz for single core CPUs. Unless you have a 1.8 or possibly a 2.0 it’s hardly worth upgrading.
With the high cost of DDR and the cheapness of the AM2 platform I can’t see the sense of using this for a new system.
So the price seems adequate and hardly hot.
#21
I am still playing Crysis, Bioshock and Call of Duty 4 in decent resolutions with my AMD 3000 processor, so this is definatley still a bargain for the money......

Just to let you know its with 1.5 GIG RAM and a Geforce 8600 graphics card (average price now about 40£)...
#22
Agharta
I can’t see much of a market for these chips as the Socket 939 platform seemed to have a range of 1.8 – 2.4GHz for single core CPUs. Unless you have a 1.8 or possibly a 2.0 it’s hardly worth upgrading.
With the high cost of DDR and the cheapness of the AM2 platform I can’t see the sense of using this for a new system.
So the price seems adequate and hardly hot.


You could be right there. Price difference of non-cpu bits could swing the decision. But if you have a spare 939 board and some DDR knocking about it could be a good buy.
#23
These have been around this pricemark for a while.
#24
Anyone who buys this processor and overclocks 50% of what i can do will be seriously impressed.
I've had a few of the 64Athlons and by far the most cheapest and easiest way to get more for a little bit of cash. I'm not 100% sure on the overclock limit of this cpu but i had the Athlon3000 1.8ghz @ 2.720ghz with ease and little voltage increase using mediocre ram and a decent Mobo and stock fan. I'm sure you can get the same around-about 1ghz increase using this said cpu too. At this price you can afford to burn the cpu trying stupid overclocks.
Even though this is OEM I'm sure it still comes with a heatsink and fan, and a decent one at that if it's anything like the 1.8ghz venice version.
I now have benchmark results of my overclocked athlon64 to compare with my new T7200 core 2 duo and for the age difference between the two there is nothing really worth worrying about unless you want to run code specificaly for a dual core.
In my eyes this CPU at this price is Hot!! Buy it
I'm getting 2 :thumbsup:
#25
what motherboard would i need? any deals on those?
#26
Good price for an old processor for those with single core 64bit athlon systems who need an upgrade.

Voted hot :thumbsup:
#27
aj2001
what motherboard would i need? any deals on those?



Socket 939
The only 939 board i could find was the asrock 939n68pv-glan
#28
i use the abit fatal1ty 939 sli as it comes with the front end so you can check the temps real time and flick the cmos jumper without opening the whole rig after every non successful overclock. or go for nForce4 Ultra
#29
runex2k
Even though this is OEM I'm sure it still comes with a heatsink and fan, and a decent one at that if it's anything like the 1.8ghz venice version.

OEMs chips definitely don’t come with a heatsink; they are sold in trays of CPUs only; you need a retail box to get the heatsink.

runex2k
I now have benchmark results of my overclocked athlon64 to compare with my new T7200 core 2 duo and for the age difference between the two there is nothing really worth worrying about unless you want to run code specificaly for a dual core.

Comparing an over-clocked desktop chip with a mobile CPU isn’t the best way to determine how good the performance is.
You can buy an X2 4400+ (2.3GHz) AM2 for £34.06 from Scan and that’s a retail box dual core. If you over-clock that it should trounce the S939 CPU and will probably run cooler also as those old single core S939 chips can be surprisingly power hungry. Ebuyer have the X2 4800+ 2.5GHz Energy Efficient Retail version for £36.44.

Don’t buy one of these for a new system unless you already have the mobo and RAM unless it’s purely for nostalgic reasons. i.e. to remind you of the days when AMD were King of the Hill. I had 2GHz S939 single and dual core CPUs and they were great in their day.
#30
I've got an opteron 148 for sale cheap, will let it go for 20 delivered.

It has the code CABYE - goolge that and you will soon see that this is the chip that was famous for hitting the 3ghz mark. this one did 3.1 with not much of a voltage increase, that was on an nForce 3 motherboard though with an xp-90 heatsink n fan.

Opterons are the server chips and much better than usual 939 chips, anyone interested drop me a PM and i will make a Sale post.
#31
How are they "Better"? They have relaxed memory controllers, and so are slightly slower than desktop chips...

The rumour of them having "better silicon" is a rumour. If it was true, why is there NO evidence towards it?
#32
Jakg
How are they "Better"? They have relaxed memory controllers, and so are slightly slower than desktop chips...

The rumour of them having "better silicon" is a rumour. If it was true, why is there NO evidence towards it?


Ok, evidence or not, the CABYE chips had the same silicon as the FX chips hence why chips with this specific code were renouned for the massive overhead they had and quickly found their place at the top of the overclocking community. Server chips were also tested for a higher headroom to eliminate any issues when being hammered 24/7

You can buy any CPU in hope that they overclock, with a CABYE there was no hope, it was GAURANTEED!.

As for the relaxed memory controllers, in comparrison to all of the normal chips I had, this ran my BH-5 at the tightest timings at over 280mhz! others failed to run the same sticks at near 260.

Either way, I will say I have been overclocking since the dawn of time, others may experience different results with different equipment but the CABYE chips all have a place in history, getting one for £20 delivered is a no brainer.

http://wiki.extremeoverclocking.com/wiki/Opteron

:thumbsup:
#33
Jakg
The rumour of them having "better silicon" is a rumour. If it was true, why is there NO evidence towards it?

I remember reading a lot of positive noise about S939 Opterons on over-clocking forums and people backed that up with hard data.
It’s seemingly not unusual for Server versions of CPUs that use desktop sockets to be cherry picked.
#34
I had a PC with a Athlon 3200 last year with XP and a 7600GT and it was fantastic and it only had 2 gigs of ram, happily playd CS Source and world of Warcraft at high resolutions with many settings high(though not all)
#35
dapperdave;2411941
Because it's an old processor, only single core, and not a particularly fast one at that.

this is still reasonable speed....worked in computers as a freelance consulttant, cant say im that impressed with dual core or quad core processors, games aside, the leap in performance is very small compared to previous processor range upgrades eg intel: p2-p3 or p3-p4
in any case i have an amd 64 3200 processor 2gb of crucial memory and a Sapphire RADEON HD 3850 - Graphics adapter - Radeon HD 3850 - AGP 8x - 512 MB GDDR3 graphics card and itill run crysis on full detail at a decent frame rate too, tho i hardly play games on the pc as i have consoles for that
i have a dual core pc and it just seems slower
#36
obviously you wouldnt buy this if you didnt have a 939 mobo.

the best use is for people with semprons who want a cheap upgrade.i know compaq sold many with the sempron so there must still be quite a few of those systems around.
#37
false prophet
obviously you wouldnt buy this if you didnt have a 939 mobo.
the best use is for people with semprons who want a cheap upgrade.i know compaq sold many with the sempron so there must still be quite a few of those systems around.

I’m not sure how many S939 Sempron systems were sold in the UK! They would be an ideal home for one of these as they would likely have had the 1.8GHz chip.
#38
Danny P
You cannot honestly tell me this CPU is only good for internet and work use simply because thats what we say about Intel Celerons and AMD Semprons both of which have a terrible cache and terrible clock therefore resulting in an alround poor performance. Which is why they are ideal for just your basic internet usage and office applications. And even these terrible chips, they do it well.

An AMD 64 3800+ is an amazing piece of architecture. Its not going to do things as fast as a Quad Core, sure. But it WILL play games. It WILL run vista and it WILL give you a great performing system.

AMD is always cheaper than Intel simply because their niche in the market has declined ever since the rise of the Pentium D and the failure that was the AMD Phantom. Due to this prices decline because everybody knows there is better stuff out there than what they offer.

All in all this chip will do everything you could throw at it. It will only begin to struggle when you try to do HD video editing, to which you WILL require a Quad Core.

Just because a chip is over a year old does not suddenly make it an office and internet chip.


Well said.

I have one of these in my system and so far has taken everything I've thrown at it. You don't need to be on the cutting edge to have a decent PC!
#39
Danny P
You cannot honestly tell me this CPU is only good for internet and work use simply because thats what we say about Intel Celerons and AMD Semprons both of which have a terrible cache and terrible clock therefore resulting in an alround poor performance. Which is why they are ideal for just your basic internet usage and office applications. And even these terrible chips, they do it well.

An AMD 64 3800+ is an amazing piece of architecture. Its not going to do things as fast as a Quad Core, sure. But it WILL play games. It WILL run vista and it WILL give you a great performing system.

AMD is always cheaper than Intel simply because their niche in the market has declined ever since the rise of the Pentium D and the failure that was the AMD Phantom. Due to this prices decline because everybody knows there is better stuff out there than what they offer.

All in all this chip will do everything you could throw at it. It will only begin to struggle when you try to do HD video editing, to which you WILL require a Quad Core.

Just because a chip is over a year old does not suddenly make it an office and internet chip.


Absolutely spot on. There were PCs made by big-name manufacturers as recently as three years ago that had AMD Duron 1800 processors in, and this would represent a great drop-in performance boost to such a set-up.

I had a Duron 1800 that I swapped out for an Athlon 3000, and the difference was immense.

Sometimes I wonder how some people think we coped with the PCs we had 5 years ago. If you have a PC with a low-end AMD socket 939 processor, this will completely revitalise it.
#40
Agharta
I can’t see much of a market for these chips as the Socket 939 platform seemed to have a range of 1.8 – 2.4GHz for single core CPUs. Unless you have a 1.8 or possibly a 2.0 it’s hardly worth upgrading.
With the high cost of DDR and the cheapness of the AM2 platform I can’t see the sense of using this for a new system.
So the price seems adequate and hardly hot.


It's not so much a part for a new system though, is it? It's an incredibly inexpensive upgrade to PCs already out there that can take the part. Most of the major manufacturers had Athlon 1800-based PCs at the entry-level of their ranges 3-4 years ago, and this is for people still using those machines.

Remember - not everybody buys a new PC every 18 months. In terms of bang for buck for those that can use it, this is a hot deal and would be a highly worthwhile purchase.

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