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Wow, an absolute bargain!!!!!!

Product Description AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ / 2 GHz processor
Product Type Processor
Processor Type AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
Multi-Core Technology Dual-Core
64-bit Computing Yes
Compatible Processor Socket Socket AM2
Processor Qty 1
Clock Speed 2 GHz
Manufacturing Process 90 nm
Cache Memory L2 1 MB ( 2 x 512 KB )
Features HyperTransport technology, AMD64 technology, integrated memory controller, Enhanced Virus Protection
Compatible Slots 1 x processor - Socket AM2
Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty

THIS HAS BEEN FOUND EVEN CHEAPER AT SCAN.

CLICK THIS LINK FOR EVEN CHEAPER DUAL CORE AM2 CPU'S.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.ASP?CatID=11&FilterCategories=442&Thumbnails=yes

MANY THANKS TO THE LADS ON THE SECOND PAGE FOR FINDING THIS.
- beerman1
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#1
Thanks for the pointer beerman1 :)

Didn't realise these had a three year warranty, worth noting :pirate:
#2
Was looking at this last night.There seems to be a couple of dual core 3800's,one slightly dearer than the other and the only difference of spec seems to be something to do with voltage.What difference does this make?

Was thinking of going for single core 3800 about £20 cheaper(I know you were a good help in a deal request thread of mine,beerman:) )

Would I be better considering this instead? What would be the advantages?

I am still procrastinating on my possible upgrade,there seems to be so many options to consider:thinking:
#3
Does look like a great price but AMD just announced price cuts so maybe worth waiting a few days for those to filter out to other retailers. Unless that's already happened of course, I haven't looked around.
#4
If you mostly play the latest 3d games single core.
#5
muckypup
Was looking at this last night.There seems to be a couple of dual core 3800's,one slightly dearer than the other and the only difference of spec seems to be something to do with voltage.What difference does this make?

Was thinking of going for single core 3800 about £20 cheaper(I know you were a good help in a deal request thread of mine,beerman:) )

Would I be better considering this instead? What would be the advantages?

I am still procrastinating on my possible upgrade,there seems to be so many options to consider:thinking:


The difference in price relates to the socket type...the latest is AM2 and that is the one to get if you're also buying a new mobo..if you have an existing mobo of the other socket type then you may be able to upgrade the CPU.
#6
muckypup
Was looking at this last night.There seems to be a couple of dual core 3800's,one slightly dearer than the other and the only difference of spec seems to be something to do with voltage.What difference does this make?

Compare AMD desktop processors here. There are 3 versions of the AM2 socket 3800+ of varying power consumption (89W, 65W and 35W) and you probably saw the 89W and 65W version. Given the spec and performance is the same I would definitely go for the 65W if it's less than £15 difference; easier to cool quietly and cheaper electricity bills! The 35W is probably very hard to get hold of and pricey but I'd love to get my hands on one.

muckypup
Was thinking of going for single core 3800 about £20 cheaper(I know you were a good help in a deal request thread of mine,beerman:) )

Would I be better considering this instead? What would be the advantages?

I would definitely go for a dual core model over single, especially if we're talking £20 difference. Depends on your usage but gradually as more application make use of multi-threading you'll see the performance gap increase massively.
#7
Also worth considering is this budget 3600+ x2 for £58.59 when it comes in stock. It has less cache but for what I use my PC for it would be much better value than any of the similarly priced single core models.
#8
dreador
If you mostly play the latest 3d games single core.


that won't be the case in the next few months or so. Dual core all the way.
#9
whats difference between that one and this one?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/122942/product_info/rb/25252817475.

Seems to be same product (see manufacturers id), but £3.65 cheaper!
#10
beerman1
that won't be the case in the next few months or so. Dual core all the way.


All the way? All the way to quad core you mean!?
#11
p00hbear
whats difference between that one and this one?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/122942/product_info/rb/25252817475.

Seems to be same product (see manufacturers id), but £3.65 cheaper!

Better in fact, at least from a heat/power point of view.
#12
publicnme
All the way? All the way to quad core you mean!?


Nope, I mean Dual Core all the way. Until Christmas at least. Quad Core is a pointless expense at this moment in time. It performs no better than a dual core, even Intels Q series is not as fast as their top notch core 2, that's because hardly anything recognises all 4 cores and will not do for a while yet.
#13
Although not in stock at the moment, I'd keep an eye on this one as that's the highly energy efficient 35W version. Can anyone tell I'm an efficiency nut! :)

Also, regarding the aforementioned 3600+ X2, here's a review of it. Not just a good budget CPU, but an excellent overclocker and fantastic for those in search of a powerful but quiet PC.
#14
willdashwood
Also, regarding the aforementioned 3600+ X2, here's a review of it. Not just a good budget CPU, but an excellent overclocker and fantastic for those in search of a powerful but quiet PC.


"As a result, our Athlon 64 X2 3600+ sample overclocked by 30%, i.e. up to the level of Athlon 64 X2 5000+."

I've always run my XP2400+ overclocked to XP2800+ with no problems, but that really puts me to shame !!:w00t:
#15
I used to be in to overclocking, not so much these days. In fact I'm currently underclocking so I can run fanless but it seems to me that as a result of the dual core price war between AMD and Intel we're getting some fantastic deals at the low end which make ideal overclocking candidates.
#16
This was £58 at scan over the weekend. If you hold out for this weekend and check the today only page i'm sure the price will be at a similar low level!

If you have the free delivery thats a bonus too :)

Ian
#17
Now that is a bargain at £58! Was it posted on hukd?
#18
Was it this model? If so it's OEM so you'll need to buy your own heat sink (not a bad idea anyway). This is the 65W version.
#19
#20
OEM = no fan, not really recommended unless you are a hardcore computer user and know which fan and heatsink is good to get.

Besides the 35/65/80W rating differences across X2 3800+, there are also 65nm and 90nm manufacturing differences. 65nm is the latest manufacturing skill that AMD uses to produce CPU and unofficially there are some X2 3800+, mostly OEM version, manufactured by 65nm. On the other hand, X2 3600+ is a newer version despite of its lower clockspeed which all are using 65nm manufacturing. So what is the conclusion? Since 65nm is a more advance manufacturing skill which lead to lower heat generation, 65nm CPU can run cooler and have a higher overclock potential.

My recommendation is... get a X2 3600+ and a nice motherboard which offers advanced CPU setting in the BIOS.


and... wait for the price drop before buying. AMD has just announced a recent price drop yesterday.
#21

That's just a normal Athlon 64 I'm afraid, not a dual core X2.
#22
howardbut
OEM = no fan, not really recommended unless you are a hardcore computer user and know which fan and heatsink is good to get.

Thanks for the info howardbut, though I'm not sure I'd agree that you need to be a hardcore computer user to purchase a processor heat sink/fan. This would do the job nicely (it cools my old P4 fanlessly and isn't even hot to touch). But really anything which specifies compatibility with the AM2 socket will be fine. Besides if you're buying individual components to upgrade or build a new system, you probably have a certain level of understanding about these things anyway.

howardbut
Besides the 35/65/80W rating differences across X2 3800+, there are also 65nm and 90nm manufacturing differences. 65nm is the latest manufacturing skill that AMD uses to produce CPU and unofficially there are some X2 3800+, mostly OEM version, manufactured by 65nm. On the other hand, X2 3600+ is a newer version despite of its lower clockspeed which all are using 65nm manufacturing. So what is the conclusion? Since 65nm is a more advance manufacturing skill which lead to lower heat generation, 65nm CPU can run cooler and have a higher overclock potential.

The processors mentioned in the thread are all manufactured at 90nm, at least according to the OPN. From what I've read the 65nm models aren't quite living up to expectations at the moment but then that's nearly always the case when there's a jump to a new manufacturing process. I'd wait a while for a core revision on the 65nm models.

howardbut
My recommendation is... get a X2 3600+ and a nice motherboard which offers advanced CPU setting in the BIOS.

I think the advice we can all take away is to always check the model number of the processor so you know what you're buying and have a look at the benchmarks/reviews (there's no shortage of them out there). I'd agree the 3600+ looks like the best bet but I'd like to see a comparison of it's typical power usage vs the 35W 3800+ which might finally hit the shelves soon. All these theoretical figures are all well and good but the real world is a different matter.

howardbut
and... wait for the price drop before buying. AMD has just announced a recent price drop yesterday.

I think we could be starting to see that price drop having an effect but I'd wait at least until the weekend for the dust to settle. Must resist the temptation to upgrade! :oops:
#23
Have a looky here:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products.ASP?CatID=11&FilterCategories=442&Thumbnails=yes

Normally on weekends the CPUs appear on today only :)
#24
scan have the energy efficient 3800 at £63 for oem and £71 for retail. not even on special offer, just the standard price.

Scan AM2 CPU

edit++
sorry muddyfox, for some reason didn't see your last!
#25
Remember if you overclock you'll void your warranty!

NIce deals though, if I had the cash I'd buy a C2D - C2D > AM2 anyday.
#26
Well found lads, looks like all the AMD prices are going to be well slashed in the coming weeks.
#27
Yep, perhaps you could reflect op as many of us got the free scan delivery option and I'd certainly take the £62.97 OEM EE model anyday.
#28
Hi, i have a shuttle with an AMD 64 3200+ processor. Can i just buy this as an upgrade or do i need to buy a whole new shuttle

thanks
#29
This is socket AM2 mate, yours I imagine will be socket 939. It will not fit, but you can get another X2 3800 to fit the 939. I am saying it is socket 939, it may even be the old socket 754, if so then you have no chance.

Download this small file here: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

The download link is at the very top left hand side, click on the link to download it, then run it and it will tell you exactly what is in your system. You need to find out what motherboard is in there. Have a look and let us know. If it's 939 I will see if I can find a cheap dual core for you.
#30
willdashwood
Although not in stock at the moment, I'd keep an eye on this one as that's the highly energy efficient 35W version. Can anyone tell I'm an efficiency nut! :)


Actually this is the 65w version. If it was the 35w version, the part no. would start with "ADD" - this one starts with "ADO" indicating it is 65w. BTW, "ADA" is for the 89w version.
#31
Zedmeister
Actually this is the 65w version. If it was the 35w version, the part no. would start with "ADD" - this one starts with "ADO" indicating it is 65w. BTW, "ADA" is for the 89w version.

Ah that's a shame. Thought it was to be good to be true. Anyone know where the 35W model is available?

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