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AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition, Thuban, S AM3, 3.3GHz, 9MB Cache, HT 4000MHz, 125W, Retail

The backbone of the VISION Black technology platform, the new AMD Phenom II X6 six-core processors are the fastest CPUs AMD has ever created. At the heart of a VISION Black Technology platform, the AMD Phenom II X6 processor is the most advanced AMD desktop processor and features innovative AMD Turbo CORE technology to adjust to the dynamic needs of performance users.

The AMD Phenom II X6 comes equipped with AMD's new Turbo CORE technology. AMD Turbo CORE technology is a performance boosting technology that automatically switches from six cores to three turbocharged core for applications that just need raw speed over multiple cores. While in Turbo CORE mode, the AMD Phenom II X6 shifts frequency speed from 3.3GHz on six cores, to 3.7GHz on three cores, making it the fastest processor AMD has ever created.

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#1
whats the difference between this & the 1090T?
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montana78
whats the difference between this & the 1090T?


+.1 Ghz and about £20

Edited By: edgeone on Feb 02, 2011 15:11:  
1 Like #3
edgeone
montana78
whats the difference between this & the 1090T?


+.1 Ghz and about £20


The 1100T is supposedly a newer revision - lower voltages and potentially better overclocks. These CPUs are aimed at overclockers anyway.

Power consumption is also slightly lower with the 1100T - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/146?vs=203

Edited By: Beorg on Feb 03, 2011 00:58
#5
AMD's Bulldozer platform launches in about 3 weeks. I'd wait til then to build a new system.
#6
IMO you're much better going for a 2500k, just compare the benchmarks between the 2500k and the 1090T it's leaps a head. Or at least wait till bulldozer if you're put off by sandy bridge from the recent news. I know there's a known fault for sandy bridge but it's easily avoidable (just stick to using sata 6gb/s ports) and you will be able to swap your motherboard for the new revisions onces they're released.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2278/aaaaaai.png

Not sure about if you already have case or gfx but I'd go for this setup. You will be able to overclock to at least 4.4 and have safe temps with the after market cooler.

The PSU is great and seems to be on today only once or twice a week so I'd see if you could get that once on offer. I picked it up for £58 about 1 month ago from scan today only.
#7
Thanks, might wait a bit and see what the new AMD prices are like, worst case would be that they are too expensive for me and I can still build the system I want for a few quid less.........
#8
satchef1
AMD's Bulldozer platform launches in about 3 weeks. I'd wait til then to build a new system.

It’s not being launched in 3 weeks time but it is being shown at CeBit in early March; still no news of a firm launch date.
#9
I just done a quick search and same one for £169 incl P&P and also £179 incl P&P
#10
hello55060
IMO you're much better going for a 2500k, just compare the benchmarks between the 2500k and the 1090T it's leaps a head. Or at least wait till bulldozer if you're put off by sandy bridge from the recent news. I know there's a known fault for sandy bridge but it's easily avoidable (just stick to using sata 6gb/s ports) and you will be able to swap your motherboard for the new revisions onces they're released.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2278/aaaaaai.png

Not sure about if you already have case or gfx but I'd go for this setup. You will be able to overclock to at least 4.4 and have safe temps with the after market cooler.

The PSU is great and seems to be on today only once or twice a week so I'd see if you could get that once on offer. I picked it up for £58 about 1 month ago from scan today only.

As someone with a 2600k I'd say you'd have to be mental to buy sandy bridge right now given the horrific fault - not so easily avoidable on some motherboards with only intel controllers and worse on laptops! Sandy bridge is a no-go until April-ish when intel and the motherboard manus start pushing out fixed chipsets - in which case you might as well wait for the Z series!!!

Intel stuffed sandy bridge up big time - i'm seriously **** off! Buying a board now means having to return it in a couple of months and wait for a replacement to arrive - for most people that's damn annoying.


Edited By: dangel on Feb 05, 2011 17:48
#11
I'm in the same boat as Not My Real Name. not being 'into' this stuff I was going to get a SandyBridge based PC.

Then I was told there was a problem and seems you'll have to take down (disassemble)your PC at some future date.

Then I read Bulldozer is due but apparently has been due for a while but by this years Q2.

The best solution I can see right now is go AMD route and hopefully Bulldozer will be compatible with current decent mother boards (as AMD do seem to do this well) and also DDR3 dual channel 1600. But I've read lots of contradictions like its goung to be quad channel memory and a 'new' socket (although the latter doesn't mean it will fit into anAM3 board does it?) So in this scenario to get the next generation of CPU I'd just need to change the 1100T for a Bulldozer CPU. The mobo , memory can stay as it is. Fair comment of just so so wrong?



Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 05, 2011 18:58
#12
If you buy this instead of the new intel sandybridge cpus you are insane :)

The intel sandybridge i5 2500k is slightly less than £180 on Aria.

The only CPU anyone should be considering to buy at the moment....decent cooler and you get 4.9gz quad core powah.
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I went for a cheaper chip, an x3 455 that I can unlock the fourth core on. This is fine for me for now until the bulldozer comes out at which time the prices on the phenoms will drop and I can get one of those or if the bulldozer is compatible with am3 I can buy a bulldozer!
#14
Meathotukdeals
The best solution I can see right now is go AMD route and hopefully Bulldozer will be compatible with current decent mother boards (as AMD do seem to do this well)


peterandsarahar
I went for a cheaper chip, an x3 455 that I can unlock the fourth core on. This is fine for me for now until the bulldozer comes out at which time the prices on the phenoms will drop and I can get one of those or if the bulldozer is compatible with am3 I can buy a bulldozer!

Bulldozer is definitely NOT compatible with current AM3 boards. They are releasing a new socket, AM3+ which can use AM3 CPUs as well as Bulldozer CPUs.

http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1282840508
#15
Agharta
Meathotukdeals
The best solution I can see right now is go AMD route and hopefully Bulldozer will be compatible with current decent mother boards (as AMD do seem to do this well)
peterandsarahar
I went for a cheaper chip, an x3 455 that I can unlock the fourth core on. This is fine for me for now until the bulldozer comes out at which time the prices on the phenoms will drop and I can get one of those or if the bulldozer is compatible with am3 I can buy a bulldozer!
Bulldozer is definitely NOT compatible with current AM3 boards. They are releasing a new socket, AM3+ which can use AM3 CPUs as well as Bulldozer CPUs.http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?id=1282840508

That article talks about being unable to conform to doing both sockets in respect of two CPU's one full bulldozer and a second AM3 compatible Bulldozer. I was meaning a Bulldozer that fits AM3+ and has all the features the article indicates but also backward compatible to AM3 where it loses the 'features'.
#16
peterandsarahar
I went for a cheaper chip, an x3 455 that I can unlock the fourth core on. This is fine for me for now until the bulldozer comes out at which time the prices on the phenoms will drop and I can get one of those or if the bulldozer is compatible with am3 I can buy a bulldozer!

LOL When I started out on this path, which must have been months ago, thats the idea I started with (cheap chip on AM3) !

Man I just don't know what to do. On the plus side I'm buying the first time a Win operating system (apart from my first ever PC tha had either Win 95 or 98???) so fresh installs and updates will be easier.

Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 06, 2011 13:51
#17
Meathotukdeals
The best solution I can see right now is go AMD route and hopefully Bulldozer will be compatible with current decent mother boards (as AMD do seem to do this well)


Meathotukdeals
That article talks about being unable to conform to doing both sockets in respect of two CPU's one full bulldozer and a second AM3 compatible Bulldozer. I was meaning a Bulldozer that fits AM3+ and has all the features the article indicates but also backward compatible to AM3 where it loses the 'features'.

I understand what you are suggesting but there is ZERO compatibility between Bulldozer and AM3. It won’t work on AM3 but with certain features disabled but is AM3+ only.
#18
Don't know what to do!

Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 06, 2011 18:33: toyps
#19
Meathotukdeals
Don't know what to do!

If I was buying now and wanted high end CPU performance I would buy an i5-2500K and take advantage of the free replacement programme that is due to start around April when the updated chipset is available.

If you only use 2 drives you can use the 2 SATA3 ports which are unaffected by the bug. If you need more than 2 SATA ports and your board doesn’t already have an extra 3rd party SATA chipset (usually only on mid to high end P67 boards) then just buy an inexpensive SATA PCIe card and run the extra drives from that until you get the replacement board.
This should cover most situations unless you want to run a complicated RAID setup on the Intel chipset.

It’s a hassle but when you look at the performance of Sandy Bridge I really can’t recommend buying an expensive AMD CPU especially as there is no upgrade path. Reports are saying that Sandy Bridge boards will be compatible with Ivy Bridge which is the 22nm replacement due in ~ 12 months. If that’s true it makes it a no brainer for me.
#20
Ok and thank you. I may well come back to your post for a few re-reads as I get more info ( not asking for a desc but don't know what RAID is don't know what SATA3 is although I know I want the 6Gbsec motherboards).

I thought intel were going for a new slot again with ivy bridge but thats just me muddling along. I will chance my luck with 1 question though, I thought the sandy bridge were slot 1155 not P67? (EDIT p67 is not a slot - just discovered this) Will Ivy bridge be DDR3 dual channel?

One day I'll be happy enough with what i know to buy the darn thing!


Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 06, 2011 20:31
#21
Why dose every one have to wait for the next tech ?
if you did that you would still have a p2 because when the p3 came out every one said wait for the p4 and so on ! I always been a Intel guy but now i have 1090t it faster than most i7s, it cooler and takes less power and extreamly good value I paid £190 for mine 6month ago sold my i7 rig (after striping water cooling of and cards ect) the 1090t ran lower idle/lower load, OC identical and used less juice.... oh and benched higher ! ... oh and cheaper to buy and cheaper board... Sorry guys if you keep waiting for the next CPU,GPU,ram, drive you will have that P4, 160gb, 512mb, ddr2 ram and gt8600 forever ! !(remembering one day they were all top of range a few years back) Or you will spend a fortune on something you will never need !

the Core i7 950 is the closest i7 to the 1100t (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html)
see how much that would cost including board ect.

moral is if you want bang for your buck get a x6! dont waste your time and money keep waiting untill the next best thing.
#22
Was going for SandyBridge and now there's a complet Horlicks going on with intel and returning motherboards. Bulldozer is the first new architecture in several years for AMD. I get your point but just right now things are at pivotal stages.

You seem to know what you are talking about...how will the Guaranteed Direct Swap Out work for the affected intel boards? eg will I have to take / send a board back to get a replacement (who knows how long down time would be) or could I get the replacement first (little or no down time). Would the replacement of the mobo need a fresh install of OS and all progs?

Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 09, 2011 19:39: missed a bit
#23
http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-Hardware/All/CPUs-AMD/626/660/678/607/695/629/442/633

quite surprised to see "new" AMD cpus coming out. incl a 3.6GHz quad. what speed could hexcores manage out the book do you think?

Edited By: Meathotukdeals on Feb 09, 2011 19:51
#24
Meathotukdeals
Would the replacement of the mobo need a fresh install of OS and all progs?


Yeah it would require a fresh start it same as changing your CPU. Some times you can get away without also there is ways to get around it ... but it better (and easer) to install fresh so you have the new mobo drivers intergrated with the OS ect.
just right now things are at pivotal stages.

to be fair you are right and we dont no the price/speed/reliability/heat differances with the new hexcores.... with it being so close to the 'next tech' the current tech will drop and you can work out then what you need... adding all the pros and cons, the fact you not got to wait to long it kinda worth the wait !
#25
Thanks buddy :)

Still, would like a new system now though..my best pc can't do the stuff i want to do in photoshop. maybees i should think about the original i7 cuz apparently the new i7's havent dropped much in price...which i find a bit odd.

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