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APC 700VA UPS with USB £59.99 Amazon (Delivery 1-2 months)

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I just ordered one of these to go with my Open Media Vault server. Has good reviews. Delivery time is 1 month however it looks to be much cheeper than everywhere else. I am in no rush for it s…
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I just ordered one of these to go with my Open Media Vault server.

Has good reviews.

Delivery time is 1 month however it looks to be much cheeper than everywhere else. I am in no rush for it so I was willing to wait.
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I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.

If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
5 Likes #2
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.
#3
MeneerSmith
I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.
If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I saw that one too however

I have also ordered:
To go stright to the server
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003OSO2Y0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And this one for any other things I might need to power off it in the future.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BTKXXLS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
#4
nwxan90
MeneerSmith
I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.
If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I saw that one too however

I have also ordered:
To go stright to the server
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003OSO2Y0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And this one for any other things I might need to power off it in the future.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BTKXXLS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


​you could just get the ones that look like a large multi plug.
#5
Does it use usbhid-ups so it can communicate with some NAS boxes?
2 Likes #6
Does anyone need one nowadays? Unless you are running a full microsoft domain with clients and servers (unlikely). Nowadays operating systems simply recover if the power supply fails. Chkdisk may run on startup (MS systems), but full recovery is normal. The only reason for a UPS is to give you time to manually shut down some application or service but what services or applications are there that need this?
And maintaining a UPS is expensive. The batteries need to be replaced regularly. It may give you some protection against brown outs if it is hooked up to all your machines. But that requires a big UPS and (again) is it necessary?
5 Likes #7
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first

Edited By: mrwhitelabel on Jan 18, 2017 03:24
#8
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
Now that is a good reason! :)
3 Likes #9
Isn't it the highest price for this product in the recent months tho?

http://charts.camelcamelcamel.com/uk/B00T7BYV6W/amazon-new-used.png?force=1&desired=true&legend=0&ilt=1&tp=all&zero=0&fo=1&h=286&w=588&lang=en
#10
bah
#11
mikedigitales
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.

Any links?
1 Like #12
jasee
Does anyone need one nowadays? Unless you are running a full microsoft domain with clients and servers (unlikely). Nowadays operating systems simply recover if the power supply fails. Chkdisk may run on startup (MS systems), but full recovery is normal. The only reason for a UPS is to give you time to manually shut down some application or service but what services or applications are there that need this?
And maintaining a UPS is expensive. The batteries need to be replaced regularly. It may give you some protection against brown outs if it is hooked up to all your machines. But that requires a big UPS and (again) is it necessary?

For small power glitches/failures this is ideal as then there would be no downtime / reboots or possible data losses due to hard drives losing power
#13
Hopefully a ups will filter and smooth out spikes and troughs improving life span

Edited By: trott3r on Jan 18, 2017 08:38
#14
would never update BIOS or other firmware on any device without having it plugged into a UPS.
#15
got an APC UPS boxed at work, small project to undertake is to hook it up with a server, are there any specific safety precautions I need to be aware of?

my colleague was holding off installing lol beacuse last time he did (4-5 yrs back) the first time install meant connecting the UPS to live eclectric and there was a massive bang/pop so gets scary.
#16
jasee
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
Now that is a good reason! :)

Are all the cameras powered by the DVR? I'm asking because if not to get them working in the event of a power cut you either need to have them running off of batteries or you will end up with a running DVR with blank images!

Cheers

Phill

Edited By: deadphill on Jan 18, 2017 09:46: missed out rather important words to convey the m
#17
nwxan90
MeneerSmith
I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.
If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I saw that one too however
I have also ordered:
To go stright to the serverhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003OSO2Y0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And this one for any other things I might need to power off it in the future. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BTKXXLS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Cheers for that, gone for a lead, but this is a better deal for a multi socket adaptor (more sockets, less cost):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Audio-Video-Cables/IEC-Gang-Mains-Extension-Sockets-Lead-Cable/B00ADU2T9M/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1484733359&sr=8-6&keywords=C14+plug+-+13A
1 Like #18
deadphill
jasee
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
Now that is a good reason! :)
Are all the cameras powered by the DVR? I'm asking because if not to get them working in the event of a power cut you either need to have them running off of batteries or you will end up with a running DVR with blank images!
Cheers
Phill

It's likely his setup uses PoE cameras.
#19
deadphill
jasee
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
Now that is a good reason! :)
Are all the cameras powered by the DVR? I'm asking because if not to get them working in the event of a power cut you either need to have them running off of batteries or you will end up with a running DVR with blank images!
Cheers
Phill


Yes the are IP PoE cameras. Power over Ethernet from the DVR
1 Like #20
sibeer
nwxan90
MeneerSmith
I used to have this and it worked fine. Think I paid £80 for it.
If you dont have a 'kettle lead' setup then this one is more suitable as it has normal plug sockets:https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002RXED6A/ref=twister_B00LLFWXLM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I saw that one too however
I have also ordered:
To go stright to the serverhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003OSO2Y0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And this one for any other things I might need to power off it in the future. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BTKXXLS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cheers for that, gone for a lead, but this is a better deal for a multi socket adaptor (more sockets, less cost):https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Audio-Video-Cables/IEC-Gang-Mains-Extension-Sockets-Lead-Cable/B00ADU2T9M/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1484733359&sr=8-6&keywords=C14+plug+-+13A

Good Spot I have updated my order thanks!
#21
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?
1 Like #22
Maffew
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?
One thing to note is that a good PSU will not like and may not work with a UPS if it not a true sine wave type, most cheap ones are simulated sine wave.
#23
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first


What size one did you buy to the CCTV and the router may do this myself
#24
Maffew
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?

25mins on a quad desktop 900va


Edited By: trott3r on Jan 18, 2017 14:05
#25
kamy786rulz
got an APC UPS boxed at work, small project to undertake is to hook it up with a server, are there any specific safety precautions I need to be aware of?
my colleague was holding off installing lol beacuse last time he did (4-5 yrs back) the first time install meant connecting the UPS to live eclectric and there was a massive bang/pop so gets scary.

I dont like the boom and click sounds at all, and know what he is talking about!

I turned every other thing in the house off just in case.

I dont know if there are approved safety measures but I would use any spare kids you have to turn this on or just boot the plug into the socket then run away like I did. :P
#26
MeneerSmith
kamy786rulz
got an APC UPS boxed at work, small project to undertake is to hook it up with a server, are there any specific safety precautions I need to be aware of?
my colleague was holding off installing lol beacuse last time he did (4-5 yrs back) the first time install meant connecting the UPS to live eclectric and there was a massive bang/pop so gets scary.
I dont like the boom and click sounds at all, and know what he is talking about!
I turned every other thing in the house off just in case.
I dont know if there are approved safety measures but I would use any spare kids you have to turn this on or just boot the plug into the socket then run away like I did. :P

Is that normal? Don't like the sound of that, might give this a miss....
#27
t002236
Is that normal? Don't like the sound of that, might give this a miss....

lol, it is normal.

It is like the crackle sound when you turn on a PC using the psu switch on the pc while the mains is on and every so often the PC makes a strange crackle sound. The ups is just a bit louder and a bit scarier.

What to be afraid of is this...you need to connect one cable to the battery but in transit sometimes the other cable comes loose and there are no instructions to help so you need to 50/50 it...one works and the other explodes! Yeah, kidding, if this happens look at the online manual for attaching a replacement battery to it and dont 50/50 it under any circumstances. :P
#28
MeneerSmith
t002236
Is that normal? Don't like the sound of that, might give this a miss....
lol, it is normal.
It is like the crackle sound when you turn on a PC using the psu switch on the pc while the mains is on and every so often the PC makes a strange crackle sound. The ups is just a bit louder and a bit scarier.
What to be afraid of is this...you need to connect one cable to the battery but in transit sometimes the other cable comes loose and there are no instructions to help so you need to 50/50 it...one works and the other explodes! Yeah, kidding, if this happens look at the online manual for attaching a replacement battery to it and dont 50/50 it under any circumstances. :P

This is what is usually inside these

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=replacing+apc+700+ups+battery&view=detailv2&&id=9013C5857AB6DC11AC559B844CCA64DFD88F89E7&selectedIndex=106&ccid=jfyIp1e5&simid=608016458153789434&thid=OIP.M8dfc88a757b987dfb00666f34d566fcao0&ajaxhist=0

If one of the battery cables disconnects its just a matter of reconnecting it the POS or NEG terminal on the battery it has come off????
#29
Is there an easy way to find out how much power a desktop PC and/or HP microserver use and therefore which rating of UPS is suitable?

Currently considering this UPS:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002RL0CKI/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

plus this trailing socket:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00ADU2T9M/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2X1ST6CC1USDW

Thanks.
#30
cheekster
Is there an easy way to find out how much power a desktop PC and/or HP microserver use and therefore which rating of UPS is suitable?

Currently considering this UPS:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B002RL0CKI/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

plus this trailing socket:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00ADU2T9M/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2X1ST6CC1USDW

Thanks.


​I would not bother with the trailing socket, just buy a c13 male to female connector for all of a quid and cut the male off. Then wire it up to a cheaper standard 4 gang extension lead.
#31
Would this power a central heating pump & boiler ignition?
#32
cheekster
Is there an easy way to find out how much power a desktop PC and/or HP microserver use and therefore which rating of UPS is suitable?
Thanks.
Yes, use a power meter like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-429-856UK-Power-Meter/dp/B003ELLGDC/
But (as I've already said) there's generally no problem with pcs or microservers, if you simply disconnect the power nothing is lost

Edited By: jasee on Jan 18, 2017 19:06
#33
Craigius
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
What size one did you buy to the CCTV and the router may do this myself


I have the ES700
https://www.amazon.co.uk/APC-Back-UPS-700-Uninterruptible-BE700G-UK/dp/B002RXED6A
I went through flubit and paid £57.75
#34
leedale30
mikedigitales
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.
Any links?
See my comment above.
2 Likes #35
Maffew
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?

I had an APC 700VA UPS about 6 years ago on a Sandybridge i7 PC (no discrete gfx, 3 mechanical hdd, ssd, 24" display). It lasted just under 20 mins new, after 6 months down to under 15 mins and I returned it for a 900VA Cyberpower which lasted just under 30 minutes but that had a better life span.

The main reason I invested in one was for working from home in a slightly flaky power area, tiny dips in power that caused reboots, frequent short outages etc.. This fixed the reboots, so it's great if that's an issue in your area. For the short outages it means you still need to save/shut down, which isn't good if you work from home. I would recommend other options, particularly as this doesn't appear to be such a good deal anyway - why so hot when it's the highest price Amazon have ever sold it for?

This is the one I'm running now - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BUJBDEM/

Not currently available, but regularly under £90, I picked another up for £74.99 from Amazon a few months ago. Double the capacity of the APC, compact in comparison, and powers the above system for nearly 1 hour when needed. Haven't been forced to shut down the machine in over 3 years.

For the average PC user, a ups is unnecessary, but those that will benefit from it will end up wanting more than this offers I think, and there's much better value to be had if you shop around.
#36
decanay
Maffew
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?
I had an APC 700VA UPS about 6 years ago on a Sandybridge i7 PC (no discrete gfx, 3 mechanical hdd, ssd, 24" display). It lasted just under 20 mins new, after 6 months down to under 15 mins and I returned it for a 900VA Cyberpower which lasted just under 30 minutes but that had a better life span.
The main reason I invested in one was for working from home in a slightly flaky power area, tiny dips in power that caused reboots, frequent short outages etc.. This fixed the reboots, so it's great if that's an issue in your area. For the short outages it means you still need to save/shut down, which isn't good if you work from home. I would recommend other options, particularly as this doesn't appear to be such a good deal anyway - why so hot when it's the highest price Amazon have ever sold it for?
This is the one I'm running now - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BUJBDEM/
Not currently available, but regularly under £90, I picked another up for £74.99 from Amazon a few months ago. Double the capacity of the APC, compact in comparison, and powers the above system for nearly 1 hour when needed. Haven't been forced to shut down the machine in over 3 years.
For the average PC user, a ups is unnecessary, but those that will benefit from it will end up wanting more than this offers I think, and there's much better value to be had if you shop around.

Brilliant, Thanks for all the info. I work from home 5 days a week too so it's pretty much the same issue.
#37
qinyanggl
leedale30
mikedigitales
Standard price for this one really, been this on Amazon for 6 months or so according to the camels - plus I'd aim for a true sinewave not a stepped one if I was buying - you can get refurbed APC Smart-UPS unit for this sort of money with new batteries on eBay for anyone looking to for a good unit.
Any links?
See my comment above.
I can't see the links?
decanay
Maffew
How much time would something like this give me to save my work and safely shutdown? Could this support 2 machines running i7's?
I had an APC 700VA UPS about 6 years ago on a Sandybridge i7 PC (no discrete gfx, 3 mechanical hdd, ssd, 24" display). It lasted just under 20 mins new, after 6 months down to under 15 mins and I returned it for a 900VA Cyberpower which lasted just under 30 minutes but that had a better life span.
The main reason I invested in one was for working from home in a slightly flaky power area, tiny dips in power that caused reboots, frequent short outages etc.. This fixed the reboots, so it's great if that's an issue in your area. For the short outages it means you still need to save/shut down, which isn't good if you work from home. I would recommend other options, particularly as this doesn't appear to be such a good deal anyway - why so hot when it's the highest price Amazon have ever sold it for?
This is the one I'm running now - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BUJBDEM/
Not currently available, but regularly under £90, I picked another up for £74.99 from Amazon a few months ago. Double the capacity of the APC, compact in comparison, and powers the above system for nearly 1 hour when needed. Haven't been forced to shut down the machine in over 3 years.
For the average PC user, a ups is unnecessary, but those that will benefit from it will end up wanting more than this offers I think, and there's much better value to be had if you shop around.

Is this one pure sine wave? Seems to be but I am not sure.
#38
mrwhitelabel
I use a ups on my CCTV DVR
Want 24/7 power even if power cut. I've got router hooked up to it to so that stays active so alarm can notify via LAN if power cut. if phone line cut also then it's screwed for dialout but will hopefully dial out if they cut power first
ditto :)
#39
I've always had a laptop but a couple of weeks ago I bought a PC tower. I was thinking today, do I need to get one of these devices? ie, what could happen if there's a power cut and the PC shuts down whilst I'm going something?

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