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Refurbished Apple TV with 160GB Hard Disk Drive
Apple TV160GB hard drive for up to 200 hours of videoWi-Fi 802.11 networkingBuilt-in IR receiverApple RemoteHDMI Video & Audio


Remeber voting is if it us a good price deal not if your a fanboy of some other format, its £80 cheaper and yes there is 1 million other devices out there but some people love these and i am one of them


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#1
How good quality are the refurbished things from the Apple Store. I've been wanting one of these for a while, and this is very tempting.
#2
please can someone explain wht this does please? is it like freeview?
#3
mum2b
please can someone explain wht this does please? is it like freeview?


Try this Apple UK link for an explanation/demo/spec etc:
http://www.apple.com/uk/appletv/

And maybe here for a MacWorld UK review albeit of the stupidly small HD'd model:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/digitallifestyle/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=2233
#4
jclaydon
How good quality are the refurbished things from the Apple Store. I've been wanting one of these for a while, and this is very tempting.



I ordered a refurbished ipod video of the apple site and it was in amazing condition; no scratches and it worked fine
#5
Thats a damn good price for the 160 version!
#6
I'd buy one in a snap if they had rgb scart output. Sorry, but composite doesn't cut it and I don't have a HDTV. *sigh*
#7
mum2b
please can someone explain wht this does please? is it like freeview?


you can easily enjoy your music and photos stored on your PC on your big LCD in your living room. Also you can rent HD tv shows and movies. You can also mod it to play divx among other things.
#8
Looking into the reviews now, most fo them are from when it was first released, does this support, dvix/xvid files yet or do they still need to be converted? at the undates free and if so do they add more files support, eg later version of vxid etc.

Thank you in advance
#9
wozza2k
Looking into the reviews now, most fo them are from when it was first released, does this support, dvix/xvid files yet or do they still need to be converted? at the undates free and if so do they add more files support, eg later version of vxid etc.

Thank you in advance


updates are free but so far have only been interface changes and a youtube browser. It can't play xvid/divx out of the box, only h264 apple tv encoded files. You can however mod it to play divx by modifying it with the patchstick and installing ATVFiles and perian codecs.
Info here:
http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Main_Page
#10
wozza2k
Looking into the reviews now, most fo them are from when it was first released, does this support, dvix/xvid files yet or do they still need to be converted? at the undates free and if so do they add more files support, eg later version of vxid etc.

Thank you in advance


I have one, and it is a great piece of kit. BUT, there are a few issues. No it doesn't play DIVX/XVID natively and to get them to work on version 2.0 is not easy, not impossible but not easy!

However, there is a great piece of software called VisualHub which converts anything to appletv compatible files and in 5.1 surround assuming it is encoded in the first place that way.

ZML.com is a great download site for movies, and downloading DIVX and converting them via VisualHub and either streaming or uploading to the appletv hard drive is a great way to buy and watch movies!

My 2 pennies worth!
#11
I've had the 160GB version since launch and have think its performance in what it does is unrivalled.

PS3, 360, non of them delivery the same quality and reliability of transferring movies and music on your network to either sync and stream. Think of it as an iPod for you TV.

The UK iTunes store will soon give you the option of movies rental from the sofa so its a good investment.
banned#12
For streaming an xbox 360would probs be better
#13
You get my hot vote, not sure i'll buy it though considering i have a ps3, and this doesn't support divx without hacking unlike the ps3
#14
I don't get why you would use this when you could just link your pc's hard drive to your television. To me it just seems like using your television as a very limited PC
#15
Nobody has quite got this "media hub" idea right.

If someone does it right and the price isn't silly. They will clear up.

I think the XBox 360 networked to a NAS with a PC doing all the tricky stuff is as close as it gets.
#16
the xbox360 is about the same level as this, it's very limited in playback formats. the ps3 is slightly better. for none-HD stuff the original xbox running xbmc outclasses all of them.

For HD playback (especially for 720p/1080 x264 enoded mkv) then something like This or This would be best.
#17
Deleted User Name 3
the xbox360 is about the same level as this, it's very limited in playback formats. the ps3 is slightly better. for none-HD stuff the original xbox running xbmc outclasses all of them.

For HD playback (especially for 720p/1080 x264 enoded mkv) then something like This or This would be best.


the 360 apart from blueray can play everything a ps3 can divx..etc,and in my opinion looks better under the tv than the ps3,i have both but the ps3 is upstairs,do hide its ugliness,looks like a george foreman lean mean grilling machine..lol
#18
stephen25uk
the 360 apart from blueray can play everything a ps3 can divx..etc,and in my opinion looks better under the tv than the ps3,i have both but the ps3 is upstairs,do hide its ugliness,looks like a george foreman lean mean grilling machine..lol

the ps3 can playback mkv with "just" a remuxing (not ideal, and thats why I recommend something other than the ps3 or 360) of the file.

The 360 cannot play mkv at all, the only way to get it to playback is to transcode it to WMV-HD (and lose quality). As all (scene) HD content is released as x264 encoded MKV then that's a pretty big exclusion for the 360.

They are both ugly, I'm ashamed of having either in my living room - give me a dreamcast anyday, small and purdy... ;>
#19
Can you get it in black?
banned#20
Deleted User Name 3
the ps3 can playback mkv with "just" a remuxing (not ideal, and thats why I recommend something other than the ps3 or 360) of the file.

The 360 cannot play mkv at all, the only way to get it to playback is to transcode it to WMV-HD (and lose quality). As all (scene) HD content is released as x264 encoded MKV then that's a pretty big exclusion for the 360.

They are both ugly, I'm ashamed of having either in my living room - give me a dreamcast anyday, small and purdy... ;>


Using mkv2vob for the PS3 is ridiculously easy and extremely fast (2 mins for a 4.4gb movie). If you can be bothered to go through the effort of downloading HD MKVs then the extra few mins to "convert" them to a PS3 friendly format is worth it.
#21
master_chief
Using mkv2vob for the PS3 is ridiculously easy and extremely fast (2 mins for a 4.4gb movie). If you can be bothered to go through the effort of downloading HD MKVs then the extra few mins to "convert" them to a PS3 friendly format is worth it.

so 4mins for a 8gb movie. it takes all of a second to start downloading a movie with no effort needed, and streaming it to a decent mediatank takes no time at all.

Of course if the ps3 is the only hd playback hardware you have then it's definitely worth doing, and as I said at least you CAN with the ps3 - with a 360 you have to transcode and the aTV just can't handle it at all.
#22
samc
I don't get why you would use this when you could just link your pc's hard drive to your television. To me it just seems like using your television as a very limited PC


Well, you can use the (very small) AppleTV without having to even have your PC switched on. Movie rentals are coming to the UK soon, so you can rent direct on the AppleTV. 24 hours to watch, HD, very good quality.

Then if you do have your PC or Mac switched on, you can stream you content, again, it means you can have your PC in another room and just have the ultra quiet AppleTV in your lounge.

Hope this helps.
#23
ps3 plays older divx files, its divx 3 or newer where as the 360 is divx 5 or newer. Quality I find to be same played back on each one.
#24
not sure about these claims concerning hd content most of which i've seen in many formats is approx 10-14gb an hour.
From what i've seen the notion of getting that to stream on 90% of the uks broadband links make me just giggle.
So basically this is a glorified over (software)engineered media tank with hdd so small u will still need more storage via pc or exthdd
for what? to get u to part with even more money on itunes (or equiv for movies) and worst of all its top of the price range for a refurbed unit?, am i missing something here?
#25
The 360 is far too noisey to be considered as a proper media hub. Even playing from a HDD or over the network its too noisey, pop a DVD in it and its so annoying.
#26
Another alternative is to build a nice box to your own spec and run MythTV see http://www.mythtv.org/ which will do all kinds of magic.

Also I seem to recall a hack for the apple TV to get it to run a full version of OS X but you'd need to google for that.
#27
just-me
Another alternative is to build a nice box to your own spec and run MythTV see http://www.mythtv.org/ which will do all kinds of magic.

Also I seem to recall a hack for the apple TV to get it to run a full version of OS X but you'd need to google for that.


yeah bin there done that fraid it still leaves a lot to be desired, so far the best open source stuff is running on ms unfort, check out
mediaportal and gbpvr, (tho gbpvr is free it aint open source)
#28
The Apple TV is an absolutely fantastic piece of kit if you use iTunes or Mac. It's much quieter than anything (no fan), has wireless and all the bits. I have the 40gb version and have modded it to use my main system at home as a file server. I also keep HD films on the local hard disk and don't have trouble with 40gb, so at 160gb it's a steal.

http://www.atv4windows.com has a tool and instructions to mod an apple tv using a USB drive from Windows, none of this faffing about with command lines and whatnot!

Previously I had a homegrown mythtv but was having trouble with crashes etc. Incidentally the AppleTV also makes a damned good mythtv frontend (if you're into that sort of thing, that is) or full mythtv box (if you're into hacking away at linux, that is). I currently use mine with my collection of converted Kids DVDs. My kids know that they can just go to the files menu, hit places, cartoons and off they go!

If you're into downloading 'scene' stuff you will be disappointed as you'll need to convert releases to run. Rather than get a UK iTunes account I highly recommend getting yourself a US one, set your Apple TV settings to US and you can rent HD right away as well as buy US TV content before it comes out over here!
#29
In the US, the arrival of rentals coincided with a large drop in price which was not replicated overseas. The AppleTV costs about double the US price in the UK. It might be worth holding out for a few weeks to see if Apple will do the decent thing, here.
#30
The thing is my playstion 3 does all this already.
#31
my old xbox with xbmc seems the better option. 250GB HD to store stuff on it ans it has never failed to play a file i thrown at it. you could buy one for about £20.
#32
Says its out of stock
#33
I think this is a really terrific piece of hardware, a low power Dothan processor with a basic dedicated graphics card (from what I remember) however I don't believe you can run a standard operating system on it?

John
#34
preacher
my old xbox with xbmc seems the better option. 250GB HD to store stuff on it ans it has never failed to play a file i thrown at it. you could buy one for about £20.

If you don't have a HD set then XBMC is hands down the best solution, it's cheaper and does more formats. When I say it's not HD it is supposed to have the best DVD upscaling around, but you have to use component, not HDMI. You can make it look pretty like the apple box by using the xTV skin.
BUT it does make a lot of noise, the AppleTV is almost silent.

MrDealManUK
The thing is my playstion 3 does all this already.

So this deal isn't for you then. In my house I already have a Wii and an Xbox, my missus has explained that if a PS3 arrives at our house she'll cut my balls off.
That's a shame because I would love to replace my Topfield with a PS3 and PlayTV, but I'm kind of attached to my balls.
#35
hey i'm confused, why do u need the 160gb drive if all ur doing is streaming stuff from the hard drive of a nearby computer?
#36
streetkid
I have one, and it is a great piece of kit. BUT, there are a few issues. No it doesn't play DIVX/XVID natively and to get them to work on version 2.0 is not easy, not impossible but not easy!
My 2 pennies worth!


I have hacked my Apple TV to play Divx natively. (And play content from a network share)
It requires some Unix hackery - but its a fun hobby project.
#37
I have a MacMini running Vista Ultimate and it is flawless. The USB tuner was 10 quid, the media centre remote was 5 quid. Obviously plays everything using media centre, looks sweet and handles all HD like a dream.

It's bluetooth, wireless, burns DVD's etc.

It's twice the price but does it right....and it's a fully fledged PC that's almost silent and looks great!
As long as it keeps working(and there isn't much that couldn't be replaced anyway) I'll never need to invest in anything else as a HTPC again. Job done!
#38
Wolfylee
I have a MacMini running Vista Ultimate and it is flawless. The USB tuner was 10 quid, the media centre remote was 5 quid. Obviously plays everything using media centre, looks sweet and handles all HD like a dream.

It's bluetooth, wireless, burns DVD's etc.

It's twice the price but does it right....and it's a fully fledged PC that's almost silent and looks great!
As long as it keeps working(and there isn't much that couldn't be replaced anyway) I'll never need to invest in anything else as a HTPC again. Job done!


You've got it spot on. Mac Mini's are fantastic machines for doing this kind of thing. Maybe if they were £50-100 less and came with a larger HD (thinking long term and for people whop dont want to open the case) then more people would adopt this solution.
#39
Wolfylee
I have a MacMini running Vista Ultimate and it is flawless. The USB tuner was 10 quid, the media centre remote was 5 quid. Obviously plays everything using media centre, looks sweet and handles all HD like a dream.

From everything I've read, only a coreduo macmini overclocked to 2.4ghz+ can handle 1080p mkv (and even then it's not perfect, there is still occasional lag etc) - this seems to be due to all the current decoders/players using only a single core. if/when they become multithreaded then the 2ghz machines should have no problems with virtually all 1080p stuff. I'd quite like an macmini and run xbmc (OSXBMC) on it. As soon as HD content works flawlessly I will definitely buy a second hand one.
banned#40
Deleted User Name 3
From everything I've read, only a coreduo macmini overclocked to 2.4ghz+ can handle 1080p mkv (and even then it's not perfect, there is still occasional lag etc) - this seems to be due to all the current decoders/players using only a single core. if/when they become multithreaded then the 2ghz machines should have no problems with virtually all 1080p stuff. I'd quite like an macmini and run xbmc (OSXBMC) on it. As soon as HD content works flawlessly I will definitely buy a second hand one.


1080p MKV isn't really worth the extra time to download and space it consumes. 720p looks more than fine on my 1080p plasma, if I really wanted the extra resolution I would probably just buy the Blu-ray

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