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Seems a cheap deal on a heater, it is starting to get cold outside!!!

Grey finish.
2000w.
3 heat settings.
Variable thermostat.
Frost protection.
Overheat protection with a built-in safety cut out switch.
Includes handles for easy movement.
Power on LED/light indicator.
Size (H)43, (W)58.2, (D)20.2cm.
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#1
Good price on the heater,

But do remember £10 now.

Then after aprox 24p per hour based on 12p per unit (British Gas Standard).

4 hours a day is a good £30 in the month.

I perfer 500w Oil radiators on and off every other hour as they stay warm.
#2
It wont cost anything plugged in under my desk at work :p
#3
But with the thermostat then it shouldn't be on all the time. As long as used in a regular household room it will maybe only be drawing power 50-75% of the time??

Not sure if there would be any difference between oil or electric panel? Yes a oil heater will keep giving off heat after the power goes off but that is just giving you back the heat you never got for the first 10 mins while it was heating up.

However I do find oil heaters put out more heat when warm as they tend to have more fins on them so there is a larger surface area to heat the air.

I am studying for an OU exam...hence why I am happy to be distracted and post to a rather dull topic :)
andy_d90
Good price on the heater,

But do remember £10 now.

Then after aprox 24p per hour based on 12p per unit (British Gas Standard).

4 hours a day is a good £30 in the month.

I perfer 500w Oil radiators on and off every other hour as they stay warm.
#4
im buying a shed to use as a gym in the garden you think this will be good for heating it up??

i was thinking about insulating the walls but someone said thats only usefull if the sheds being heated so need best way for that..
#5
im buying a shed to use as a gym in the garden you think this will be good for heating it up??

i was thinking about insulating the walls but someone said thats only usefull if the sheds being heated so need best way for that..


I think a fan heater would be better if you want to heat a space like a shed - as a gym you'd want it to get up to temperature as quickly as possible so that you can get on with your training. A radiator will take longer to heat the space. If it's a really big shed you might want to look at a propane space heater, like they use in workshops etc.
#6
m00nie
im buying a shed to use as a gym in the garden you think this will be good for heating it up??

i was thinking about insulating the walls but someone said thats only usefull if the sheds being heated so need best way for that..


You really need both heating and insulation: the heating to warm it up a bit and the insulation to keep the heat in, rather than immediately leaking straight through the walls and roof. Without the insulation, it will never get acceptably warm or even usable on a cold winter's day and the insulation will also reduce your electric bill.
#7
This is an excellent price and just so happens I was planning to look for one of these today so thanks very much!
#8
Decent price but we had a load of these at work and they didn't last very long....
#9
how hot does it get :p (this post obviously)
#10
We use one of these in a 16 ft interior touring caravan - start off on full power then never more than low for comfortable living.
1 Like #11
Insulate to keep both heat in & cold out...
common sense really, allowing the core room to remain heated with lesser diminishing effect & therefore reduced bills.
Look up xtratherm for the walls & roof from you local builders merchant or bid on a pallet of slight seconds on ebay from seconds & company (very good) foil faced obviously reflects heat better whilst being thinner & (as a basic rule of thumb, close to twice the efficiency of fibreglass insulation for the same thickness) xtratherm & similar start at around 25mm thickness so around 45mm fibreglass equivilent. foil backing is also advantageous for keeping the shed / workshop cooler during summer months so is a great investment even if only done bit by bit!
#12
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs
1 Like #13
cells
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs


HDUK ought to invoice you for wasting their disk space.
#14
I have one of these and also have an OWL electricity reader on the lowest setting it was using 13 to 15p per hour. Which to heat one room is a lot cheaper than having your central heating on for the same amount of time.
#15
gizmouk
cells
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs


HDUK ought to invoice you for wasting their disk space.


meow! :3

anyway would a halogen heater be better for heating one room? Just been looking online and the argos one is around £20, would it save money in the future?
#16
I agree in part with cells, good point, though gas prices are ridiculous & set to rise higher than electric each winter..
However useage depends on how well wrapped your room / house is., we for instance don't have stupidly placed rads under windows so all the warmth is lost, planned system (or turning it off & seeking alternate ways means more control, less fuel used, gradual loss), ok a few cold spots, but thats easier to live with.
We all need to take this issue seriously rather than just demanding instant tropical warmth which is pee'd away due to our own inaction!
Thicker curtains, better quality clothing / pyjamas for kids rather than rancid mega thin tesco's jim jams (stopped the wife buying 5 sets of that rubbish in favour of 2 long lasting swedish good quality stretchy jama's for kid ..which also has had a significant effect on her bedroom electricity useage, a corn bag heated up for several minutes in the microwave prior to bedtime.. sorted so her rad can simply be put on a thermostatic tick over state.
Get a can of squirty foam & fill up the holes for cables in your electricity meter box which often are a big source of possible rodent entry & or draughts.
I'm just about to box in our hot water tank (already insulated) to retain more heat when off, seeing as it's 3kw draw when on, this will also help insulate the room against cold air travelling up the stairs coming through the wall, ..double bubble!
little steps, but lots of them..
Seriously invest in your insulation before anything else!
#17
Golemsmate, modern halogens are good as long as they are stable & aren't placed anywhere stupid where they could cause damage (like anything really).
Also the light they emit may be a pain for anyone trying to sleep, however there is a new variety (only seen the dimplex one) which doesn't emit light is essentially black even when on, but expensive, would your halogen be safe around kids / animals etc?

If you can though whack in more insulation which will decrease the heatings time on over the winter, if we go towards power outages over the coming years heat retention in a building will be as vital if not more so than continued supply of elcectricity!
#18
andyken
m00nie
im buying a shed to use as a gym in the garden you think this will be good for heating it up??

i was thinking about insulating the walls but someone said thats only usefull if the sheds being heated so need best way for that..




You really need both heating and insulation: the heating to warm it up a bit and the insulation to keep the heat in, rather than immediately leaking straight through the walls and roof. Without the insulation, it will never get acceptably warm or even usable on a cold winter's day and the insulation will also reduce your electric bill.


Just what I was thinking, stick some 50mm celotex on the roof and walls or, if there's space, you could go for one of the cheap deals on rockwool, but that's far messier and would need more panelling in.
#19
MR GUS
I agree in part with cells, good point, though gas prices are ridiculous & set to rise higher than electric each winter..
However useage depends on how well wrapped your room / house is., we for instance don't have stupidly placed rads under windows so all the warmth is lost, planned system (or turning it off & seeking alternate ways means more control, less fuel used, gradual loss), ok a few cold spots, but thats easier to live with.
We all need to take this issue seriously rather than just demanding instant tropical warmth which is pee'd away due to our own inaction!
Thicker curtains, better quality clothing / pyjamas for kids rather than rancid mega thin tesco's jim jams (stopped the wife buying 5 sets of that rubbish in favour of 2 long lasting swedish good quality stretchy jama's for kid ..which also has had a significant effect on her bedroom electricity useage, a corn bag heated up for several minutes in the microwave prior to bedtime.. sorted so her rad can simply be put on a thermostatic tick over state.
Get a can of squirty foam & fill up the holes for cables in your electricity meter box which often are a big source of possible rodent entry & or draughts.
I'm just about to box in our hot water tank (already insulated) to retain more heat when off, seeing as it's 3kw draw when on, this will also help insulate the room against cold air travelling up the stairs coming through the wall, ..double bubble!
little steps, but lots of them..
Seriously invest in your insulation before anything else!


Spot on!

www.energyassessor.org
#20
gizmouk
cells
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs


HDUK ought to invoice you for wasting their disk space.


why?
#21
I haven't looked into the Halogen heaters yet but that is my next mission as I am been told they are the best value for heating one room.

golemsmate
gizmouk
cells
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs


HDUK ought to invoice you for wasting their disk space.


meow! :3

anyway would a halogen heater be better for heating one room? Just been looking online and the argos one is around £20, would it save money in the future?
#22
None left now
1 Like #23
cells
These should be illegal or heavily taxed. They add a huge burden to the grid at just the time we have least spare capacity.

Plus because you use them in the winter they are in effect powered by marginal coal plants. Overall because of this these will he around 30% energy efficient instead of 90% with a good boiler.

Where ever possible try to use gas heating. The running cost of electric heaters will be about 3 to 4 times greater!

If you are cold try to wear more suitable clothing to keep you warm. In effect free.
Electric blankets are also good in that thy use less than 100 watts so 20x less running costs


Thanks for the tip, I'm going to dig accross three blocks straight away in order o connect our building to gas. Thanks again!
#24
i have a summerhouse walls and roof are isulated i use a oil radiator which is very good i also use a halogen heater to heat it up very quick on a cold day halogen heaters are cheap to run and if they fall over it will cut out so they are safe to use and cheap just remember to put a vent in your shed
#25
andy_d90
I perfer 500w Oil radiators on and off every other hour as they stay warm.
Just in case anyone thinks this means you get more heat for your money out of an oil-filled radiator, it is categorically not the case. The staying warm is at the expense of taking longer to heat up in the first place. The two cancel each other out completely.
1 Like #26
angelar67
halogen heaters are cheap to run
Halogen heaters are not "cheap to run". They cost exactly the same amount to run as any other sort of electric heater of the same wattage (except storage heaters which you can charge up at cheap rate). And the wattage is exactly the same as the amount of heat you get out.

I can't believe how many people don't realise this - it's quite scary.
#27
MR GUS
Golemsmate, modern halogens are good as long as they are stable & aren't placed anywhere stupid where they could cause damage (like anything really).
Also the light they emit may be a pain for anyone trying to sleep, however there is a new variety (only seen the dimplex one) which doesn't emit light is essentially black even when on, but expensive
Why waste money on such a thing when it's just an electric heater like any other? If you need radiant heat, go for an old-fashioned bar heater.
#28
lol i thought halogen was cheaper to run will look it up find out more i want to save money
#29
I used to sell this type of product to electrical wholesalers in East Anglia 22 years ago - they were more expensive than this then! - to wholesalers! - what is the world coming to!
#30
Listing has ended :(
#31
angelar67
lol i thought halogen was cheaper to run will look it up find out more i want to save money
I'm afraid not - it's all clever, misleading, marketing which canna break the laws of physics: conservation of energy. The only thing that you can control (apart from by using storage heaters to take advantage of cheap rate) is the direction of the heat. Radiant heaters such as halogen and old fashioned bar heaters tend not to heat the air generally, but surfaces they are pointed at. So point one at yourself and the bits of you facing it will get warm, whereas the rest of you will stay cold. Convector heaters heat the air generally. So do oil-filled radiators, but they have the disadvantage of being less controllable due to the thermal mass of the oil, so are even more useless than convectors. They are safer though, as the hot element is completely enclosed. Fan heaters are somewhere in the middle - they heat air, but send it in a particular direction.
I endorse all the comments about insulation - that's the way to save money, and be more socially responsible at the same time.
#32
pibpob
MR GUS
Golemsmate, modern halogens are good as long as they are stable & aren't placed anywhere stupid where they could cause damage (like anything really).Also the light they emit may be a pain for anyone trying to sleep, however there is a new variety (only seen the dimplex one) which doesn't emit light is essentially black even when on, but expensive
Why waste money on such a thing when it's just an electric heater like any other? If you need radiant heat, go for an old-fashioned bar heater.
Because we don't know what the electric supply is like whether its new lay or pulled off an existing spur that may be maxxed out!? ..also because halogens heat bodies not other objects, so placement is a consideration as well as other variables like overall space, movement of heat, kids / animals in the way & other variants.
Look at all the avenues, as wella s safety of equipment, halogen heaters you can often get for a few pounds literally so may be a cheap, easy & possibly mobile solution.

B

Edited By: MR GUS on Oct 18, 2010 14:19: whoops!
#33
MR GUS
pibpob
Why waste money on such a thing when it's just an electric heater like any other? If you need radiant heat, go for an old-fashioned bar heater.

Because we don't know what the electric supply is like whether its new lay or pulled off an existing spur that may be maxxed out!?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here - whatever the type of heater, it will draw its rated amount. Halogen or not is irrelevant.

How will a spur be, erm "maxxed out"? If you plug too many things into it, the 13A fuse in the adaptor will blow.

..also because halogens heat bodies not other objects, so placement is a consideration as well as other variables like overall space, movement of heat, kids / animals in the way & other variants.
That's exactly the same as a bar heater - they are both radiant heaters.
#34
isn't the UK set for rolling winter blackouts in the future because old power stations aren't being replaced?
#35
It depends which person's scaremongering agenda you choose to believe. What's this got to do with this thread?

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