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I know Morrisons have them for £6.49 per kg at their fish counter, but they are farmed.

These ASDA ones are WILD salmon, and I have done some research and farmed salmon is dangerous to eat as its much higher in toxins and also has much less omega 3.
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#1
Can you give us some more details of the research you have carried out? Up to now my amateur understanding was that wild was better for you and farmed was more sustainable. Has your research confirmed this or is it more scientific?
1 Like #2
from google sources (most seem very reliable), Ill just copy and paste, so its easy to see:

Farm-raised fish contain much higher amounts of pro-inflammatory omega 6 fats than wild fish.

The wild coho were not only much lower in overall fat content, but also were found to have 33% more omega 3 fatty acids than their farm-raised counterparts.

Sulfa drugs and tetracycline are used to prevent infectious disease epidemics in the dense aquafarm populations are added to food pellet mixes along with, in farm-raised salmon, the orange dye canthaxanthin, to color their otherwise grey flesh.

A follow up study confirmed this, and found levels of dioxins, chlorinated pesticides, PCBs and other toxins up to ten times greater in farmed salmon than wild Pacific salmon
banned#3
What a load of dodgy research lol

One idiot's findings do not make a sound basis for making decisions
#4
Universities are idiots?
banned#5
It's a bit like saying A carrots are fab for your health but B carrots aren't quite as fab, in fact they're 30% less fab.

So B carrots are rubbish in comparison.

Which patently ain't the case.

B carrots are still really great for your health.
#6
how many fillets per pack? i buy 8 fillets for £6.50 at the moment from morrisons
1 Like #7
cheaper in aldi
1 Like #8
I'll tell you what's not WILD... your internet search history.
#9
Good price, got a pack of these from Tesco recently- was like 600g for £5, i imagine these are the same. Taste great.
#10
So if they are"dangerous to eat" just how much do you have to eat and what is the effect? With most of these research projects their findings have a propensity to raise alarmist headlines, covering up an original balanced review. Witness all of the -dont eat /drink 3 ton of this /that or you risk getting cancer. Moderation in consumption is the key to anything you put in your body. If something was dangerous, its unlikely to be on sale. Regardless of the alarmist comment, good price which is want the deal is about.
Heated.
1 Like #11
'Sustainably sourced wild Alaskan salmon'
Seems to be best of both
1 Like #12
orcinus_orca, i believe in what u've researched. True, that's why a large fraction of the population here is getting cancer coz of the food they eat. Like the cancer of the intestine, sometimes genetic but sometimes coz of our diet. The problem now is that companies/ producers dont tell us the toxins they've used to raise those animals/fishes or to grow their plants. So people end up still defending those producers
#13
Orcinus_orca
I have done some research and farmed salmon is dangerous to eat as its much higher in toxins and also has much less omega 3.

It's a pity you didn't do some research on plastics: the plastic bag this will leech toxic chemicals into the salmon.

Did you see what I did there?

Heated for those who like salmon, but I prefer sardines - out of a can (_;)
#14
"dangerous to eat" - LOL

i remember many years ago when a study of the humble lettuce ( you know, the one rabbits eat ) declared that that too was bad for you due to the levels of some chemical ( Nitrate i think )

the only thing they omitted to mention is that you would need to eat about 2 heads of lettuce PER DAY before it might begin to harm you !!!!
#15
Salmon is available to everyone due to farming. Most of UK salmon is farmed in Scotland and undergo very strict controls. I would rather eat a salmon with a traceable history!

Alaskan salmon is sustainable because they are on their way to die anyway!!
banned#16
cold for the ridiculous myth about farmed salmon being dangerous to eat! oO
#17
its not a myth, its based on studies by universities
#18
You can find anything you want to hear on Google, I had some difficulty finding anything based on UK farmed salmon, but the FSA sit has an interesting article here: http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/faq/salmon080104/?version=1

It includes this Q&A:

Can I still eat Scottish farmed salmon or any farmed salmon?

There is no reason to avoid eating Scottish farmed salmon or any other salmon. Research carried out by the Agency has shown no significant difference in levels of contaminants between farmed and wild salmon from the UK. We are carrying out further research in this area.

Most other research is USA based and even the FDA has recently approved sulfa drugs for use in farmed fish, the first such approval in over 20 years.

Also in a recent study, there were more pcb's and dioxins found in mince and eggs than in farmed Scottish salmon. This was a direct comparison done using salmon, eggs, mince and skimmed milk.
1 Like #19
what about here:
http://www.eurocbc.org/scottish_farmed_salmon_most_contaminated_worldwide_08jan2004page1396.html

A landmark international study – ‘Global Assessment of Organic Contaminants in Farmed Salmon’ [1] - published 9th January 2004 in the world’s foremost scientific journal, Science, presents damning new evidence that Scottish farmed salmon is the most contaminated salmon on sale in Europe and North America. The Science study reveals that Scottish farmed salmon is so contaminated with PCBs, dioxins, dieldrin and toxaphene that no more than three meals of Scottish farmed salmon PER YEAR are recommended. Wild salmon on the other hand could be safely consumed at levels as high as eight meals per month or twice per week.
banned#20
Orcinus_orca
what about here:
http://www.eurocbc.org/scottish_farmed_salmon_most_contaminated_worldwide_08jan2004page1396.html

A landmark international study – ‘Global Assessment of Organic Contaminants in Farmed Salmon’ [1] - published 9th January 2004 in the world’s foremost scientific journal, Science, presents damning new evidence that Scottish farmed salmon is the most contaminated salmon on sale in Europe and North America. The Science study reveals that Scottish farmed salmon is so contaminated with PCBs, dioxins, dieldrin and toxaphene that no more than three meals of Scottish farmed salmon PER YEAR are recommended. Wild salmon on the other hand could be safely consumed at levels as high as eight meals per month or twice per week.

Hmm - a study that was done 10 years ago by 4 professors in the USA!

I'm out! :)
#21
they're professors, they probably have more intelligence than all hukd put together - I'll trust them
banned#22
Orcinus_orca
they're professors, they probably have more intelligence than all hukd put together - I'll trust them

4 americans vs the UK food standard agency:-

There is no reason to avoid eating Scottish farmed salmon or any other salmon. Research carried out by the Agency has shown no significant difference in levels of contaminants between farmed and wild salmon from the UK. We are carrying out further research in this area

http://www.food.gov.uk/multimedia/faq/salmon080104/?version=1#.USioHKWgTnQ
#23
Typical British for you! If I had the means, I would stay out! Truly, commercialisation and intense farming give us all sorts of troubles. A TV program showed how water was pumped into chicken fillet in the Netherlands, and people are still buying them and I can see the water discolour the fillet. I would just buy a whole chicken and do all the leg work!
#24
Norwegian farmed salmon has been dealt yet another hammer blow with Russian health authorities classifying it as “dangerous produce” and a “health risk”. Over the weekend (5 May), Norway’s #1 customer banned imports of fresh Norwegian farmed salmon after “laboratory tests found salmonella and other coliform bacteria”, “poor safety controls” and “repeated instances of microbe pollution.” This is Russia's third ban on Norwegian farmed salmon since 2005.



Bruno Le Maire, the Minister of Food, Agriculture and Fishing, who was one of the guests of the show along Dr. Patrice Halimi, Secretary General of the Association for Health and Environment France, declared he was “shocked” by the findings.
He was “revolted” by the fact that fish are given pesticides to eat, especially since “no one knows what damage they can cause to human health,” reports RTLinfo. Norwegian fish, along with Korean and the Vietnamese, amounts to 70% of French-imported fish for consumption. French authorities say they’ve already contacted the Norwegians to discuss the matter of pesticide-fed salmon.“We are waiting for their response. What happened in Norway cannot come to France,” Bertrand Sirven, the ministry’s advisor told the newspaper 20 Minutes.


Guess where the Morrisons one comes from - Scotland or Norway it says on the labels!!



and more evidence:
A study done by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland found that farmed salmon had an average of four times the amount of PCBs and Dioxins as wild salmon. They found that seven of the ten farmed salmon purchased had levels of PCB that should raise health concerns. The EWG researchers found an average PCB level of 27.3 ppb in the ten fish studied with highest levels in the salmon that was farm raised in Scotland. This was over 5 times higher than the level of PCBs found in a sampling of wild salmon.

The researchers were wise enough to also test the fish pellets that these farmed salmon were fed. They tested samples of salmon feed from global suppliers that account for 80% of all salmon feed sold world-wide, and found the source of the salmon’s contamination. The levels of these toxins in the fish were directly related to their presence in their feed. These pellets are made from smaller fish which have been contaminated with these pollutants. PCBs then build up in the salmon at levels about 20-30 that of their environment and feed.
1 Like #25
Orcinus_orca
what about here:
http://www.eurocbc.org/scottish_farmed_salmon_most_contaminated_worldwide_08jan2004page1396.html

A landmark international study – ‘Global Assessment of Organic Contaminants in Farmed Salmon’ [1] - published 9th January 2004 in the world’s foremost scientific journal, Science, presents damning new evidence that Scottish farmed salmon is the most contaminated salmon on sale in Europe and North America. The Science study reveals that Scottish farmed salmon is so contaminated with PCBs, dioxins, dieldrin and toxaphene that no more than three meals of Scottish farmed salmon PER YEAR are recommended. Wild salmon on the other hand could be safely consumed at levels as high as eight meals per month or twice per week.

Have just spent half an hour looking through this fantastic Magazine website. Their data hasn't been updated since publication in 2004. There have been no mass cases of salmon eating disorders. They do however get their information from fringe groups such as The Salmon Farm Protest Group................ another dead site no longer in use.

Top and bottom of it is this, the USA have a vested interest in making Atlantic salmon look bad for you, they have a massive investment in Pacific salmon, and if they can stop the downslide in consumption of their products in Europe, they will.

Get yourself an all round picture before believing one biased report from 2004, using data and reports from fringe groups that exist only to meet their own agenda.

The risks of eating farmed salmon is far outweighed by the health benefits.
#26
there are risks there, the feed the farmed salmon are getting is clearly full of chemicals. Its best to stick to wild surely you agree?
#27
"A study done by the Food Safety Authority of Ireland " .............. The Irish marine agency also insist that all lobster caught off the west coast of Wales by non Irish lobstermen must be examined by a vet before being allowed into Ireland. However, the same lobsters caught off the east coast of Ireland by irish lobstermen don't need anything!! Ireland also farm salmon.
#28
Orcinus_orca
there are risks there, the feed the farmed salmon are getting is clearly full of chemicals. Its best to stick to wild surely you agree?

There are insufficient stocks of Atlantic salmon in this country to go around. Farmed salmon has given us the choice, imported canned salmon used to be the only choice for the masses. Fresh wild salmon was for the privileged or poachers only.

I have worked in the fresh fish industry and part of my job was ensuring the fish we sold/processed was safe to eat, this involved many checks on suppliers/growers of all types of farmed fish, oysters, mussels, prawns, salmon, sea bass and turbot. This involved reading reports from all organisations but eventually trusting our own experts in this field that regularly check how these creatures are raised and processed. Not as a quick Saturday morning exercise, but as an ongoing study to ensure the safety of thousands of restaurant and private diners. There will always be issues with additives in food, whether in chicken feed or cattle cake, but the FSA and Sea Fish Authority in this country, together with the EU regulations dictate that our food is as safe, if not much safer, than it needs to be.
#29
I like this:
Allergy Advice
Contains Fish.
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