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ATI HD 4670 512MB PCI-E Graphics Card £59.79 Delivered @ Novatech

£59.79 @ Novatech
Amazing price for a 4670, probably the lowest ever. The photo was recently changed to show a Powercolor card, although the last batch were Palits so be prepared for either if you order one (but I susp… Read More
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8y, 3m agoFound 8 years, 3 months ago
Amazing price for a 4670, probably the lowest ever. The photo was recently changed to show a Powercolor card, although the last batch were Palits so be prepared for either if you order one (but I suspect they'll be Powercolors). Both are great cards and don't need any external power so should be fine with a 350W PSU on most systems. The Powercolor is a single height card by the looks of it so there shouldn't be any problems in small cases either (the Palit is double height).

Full review of the Powercolor here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_4670/1.html

Edit 5/3/09: Up to from £54.04 to £55.19 now but still a great deal - plus 3% cashback through Quidco!
Edit 6/05/09: Up to £57.49 now. Still the cheapest 4670 around though.
Edit: 9/05/09: Up to £59.79. Inflation gone mad. Still the cheapest 4670 out there, but obviously not the bargain it was at £54.
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#1
Is this better than a Nvidia 8600GT?
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Toybhoy
Is this better than a Nvidia 8600GT?


It's not the best but way better than 8600 gt!
Heat & rep added!
#3
navid
It's not the best but way better than 8600 gt!
Heat & rep added!


Thanks for that mate. :)
#4
Toybhoy;4546059
Is this better than a Nvidia 8600GT?


Check out Tom's Hardware graphics card rankings:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-radeon,2151-6.html

Yes, it's much better!
#5
nick_sub
Check out Tom's Hardware graphics card rankings:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-radeon,2151-6.html

Yes, it's much better!


Thanks nick! I'll have a look. Great deal, heated and repped! :thumbsup:
#6
is it better than a 9800gt??
#7
Check out the Tom's Hardware chart I posted above. The 9800GT is faster.
#8
htnralph
is it better than a 9800gt??


No its a bit slower but not very much and uses considerably less power
#9
9600 gt is faster.

but this is a great price. Hot :)
#10
Thers a HD 4670 review here ,not exact same model but same performance
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/powercolor_hd4670/
#11
Supposedly the prices of the 4850 and 4870 will be coming down this week in America at least.. Not sure if it will be the same here.
#12
i'm sticking with the X1950 XT till 4890 is out.
#13
Would this be alright in a 300w system? I've already got a 9500GT running in it without any problems.
#14
According to this the 4670 uses about 10W moew than the 9500GT at maximum load:
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphics-cards/ATi-Radeon-HD-4670-vs-nVIDIA-GeForce-9500GT/Page-5.html

It depends on the rest of your system, but assuming it's pretty standard system then I expect it would be OK. Also depends on the quality of your PSU though as some poor ones won't even manage their rated capacity and the better ones will be able to provide more than rated.
#15
dean_brfc
Would this be alright in a 300w system? I've already got a 9500GT running in it without any problems.


Guess it all depends what else you are running and what CPU, if you only have one hard disk, one dvd drive etc, then fine.
#16
Would any of you guys know if there would be a discernible quality difference between this board and the 256mb NVIDIA 9500GS graphic card. I have looked on the chart posted previously, but am after a 'real world' answer!

Will the difference actually be noticable when displayed on a 720p LCD?

Thanks
1 Like #17
For gaming? If you're playing newish games then yes, you'll be able to play at higher framerates and/or higher graphics detail settings.

For movies I doubt you'd notice a difference.
#18
Awesome deal, H&R added.

I will not be purchasing, since I own a 8800GT 256MB, which is only one "rank" below according to that Tom's HW page (great link btw nick_sub)
#19
Only shame with this card is that it doesnt have HDMI out which is a shame fro people building a HTPC.

This on scan looks quite good, due in today, the passivly cooled Sapphire Ultimate 4670 :
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512Mb-Sapphire-HD4670-Ultimate-PCI-E-VGA-Card

£66.63 including free postage if you are registered with AVForums, review here:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11926&Itemid=40
1 Like #20
Oh, and heres a review of the 4670 (stock version I believe) that show it only draws 3w at idle and 40w at load! Impressive, and useful again for HTPC builders looking for a low power consumption PC

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article873-page5.html
#21
The review I linked to in the OP says it comes with an HDMI converter at least but I don't know if the ones from Novatech will have this or not as it was a US review.
#22
nick_sub
The review I linked to in the OP says it comes with an HDMI converter at least but I don't know if the ones from Novatech will have this or not as it was a US review.


As far as I can tell, Powercolors don't have the HDMI converter:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150851/show_product_reviews

Be aware that this product does not include an HDMI output - it has 2 DVI outputs and there's a DVI - D-sub dongle included, but no DVI - HDMI dongle.


But then again, that's ebuyer.

I bought this one for £55 inc del last year. Mine came with the HDMI converter.
#23
Can anyone recommend a good card for playin hi def files and blurays from my pc to my plasma and playing some newish games for under £80 delivered. Also im a bit of a newb with video cards, and have noticed that some cards come with ddr3ram will these still work with a motherboard fitted with ddr2 or does the video card ddr have to match the motherboard?sorry for the question its just I dont have a clue when it comes to video cards.
Thanks in advance
#24
I don't think the DDR of your motherboard has to match the graphics card but perhaps someone could confirm?

This card sounds great for what you need - it's quiet which will be good for movies and it'll be fine with "newish" games. The next step up ATI-wise would be the 4830 but that's around £85 (sorry I dont' know much about NVidias) and might be more power than you need.
#25
nick_sub
I don't think the DDR of your motherboard has to match the graphics card but perhaps someone could confirm?

This card sounds great for what you need - it's quiet which will be good for movies and it'll be fine with "newish" games. The next step up ATI-wise would be the 4830 but that's around £85 (sorry I dont' know much about NVidias) and might be more power than you need.

The card has a dvi output but from what ive heard sound cannot be output from a dvi so I assume that i would have to receive sound from a suitable soundcard?
#26
Just a quick question, I can't see my current ATI X1800 XT 256MB on the Tom's VGA Chart. Is this card much better than it?
#27
It's there - 11th rank down, 4 tiers below the 4670. TH only reccomends upgrading to a card at least 3 tiers higher so it might be worthwhile.
#28
bboy71
Can anyone recommend a good card for playin hi def files and blurays from my pc to my plasma and playing some newish games for under £80 delivered.

Yep - the Radeon 4850 is the current budget gaming card of choice.
They retail around £100 though, so you'll need to raise your budget slightly. The ASUS cards are a good buy - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-4850
bboy71
Also im a bit of a newb with video cards, and have noticed that some cards come with ddr3ram will these still work with a motherboard fitted with ddr2 or does the video card ddr have to match the motherboard?

The memory types are irrelevent for compatibility.
All you need to run a modern card, is a PCI-E slot to plug it into. Some of the higher-end cards also need a beefy power supply, but the 4850 will run on just about anything :)
nick_sub
This 4670 card sounds great for what you need - it's quiet which will be good for movies and it'll be fine with "newish" games...

It'll only play modern games with reduced detail and/or resolution - it's not really suitable for gaming use unless you're running an ultra-low-res screen.
#29
Nom;4549138

It'll only play modern games with reduced detail and/or resolution - it's not really suitable for gaming use unless you're running an ultra-low-res screen.


I can't comment on modern games, but I play rfactor and LiveForSpeed which are 2/3 years old. I use mine with 3 monitors at a resolution of 3840x1024 and can play them on medium/high detail with some AA and AF and get about 45fps so I wouldn't say it's unsuitable for gaming.
#30
Toybhoy;4546059
Is this better than a Nvidia 8600GT?

Here's part of a customers review on Novatech;
[Before this I had a 512MB DDR3 8600GT also from Novatech, which I bought for a similar price to this. This, quite frankly, destroys the thing.
One of the main buying points of the 8600GT was that it needed no external power connectors (it got all the power it needed to function from the PCI-E connector) and this card also has this feature, it even uses less power according to sites Ive seen around the web.
Performance wise, this card is pretty awesome considering the cost and power consumption. Ive yet to upgrade to dual core (shall change tomorrow!), but GRID now runs happily on full at 1280x1024 with 8x AA when it struggled on 1024x768 with med-high and no AA on my 8600GT.]
Hope it helps your decision a bit more.
C'mon the Hoops :thumbsup:
#31
Does this model do the 7.1 sound over HDMI?
#32
This is what it says in the review I linked to in the OP:

The card has two DVI ports which is the standard output configuration nowadays. If you need a VGA port you can use the included DVI adapter. When using a HDMI adapter (included as well), you will also have access to HDMI+HDCP+Audio, which allows easy setup of a media PC. AMD has integrated a Realtek 7.1 audio device inside the GPU which means that the sound card's HDMI output shows up as sound device in Windows. In my opinion this is an easier solution than on NVIDIA's cards where you have to route an audio cable from your motherboard to the VGA card.
#33
bboy71;4548455
The card has a dvi output but from what ive heard sound cannot be output from a dvi so I assume that i would have to receive sound from a suitable soundcard?

I just had a look into this. You're right you cannot transmit sound over a DVI connection to a DVI device. However, if you use a DVI-HDMI converter then the graphics card will detect the HDMI device and send the audio through the DVI port. So as long as you use an HDMI converter and cable to connect to your plasma TV then you should be able to transmit the audio too.
#34
nick_sub
I just had a look into this. You're right you cannot transmit sound over a DVI connection to a DVI device. However, if you use a DVI-HDMI converter then the graphics card will detect the HDMI device and send the audio through the DVI port. So as long as you use an HDMI converter and cable to connect to your plasma TV then you should be able to transmit the audio too.

It would be good if the converter will also transmit the audio the thing that conerns me is that there are a few sellers on ebay who sell dvi/hdmi adaptors and they claim that no audio will be heard,to how much this is true? I m not sure.
#35
I guess it depends on whether the card sends the audio. You could ask on the Novatech forums, otherwise it might be worth going for a card with an HDMI port to avoid the issue. The Palit has one, infact maybe if you asked Novatech they might be able to send you one if they have any left.
#36
Hi. I have a HD 2600 XT - this is 6 steps below on the Tom's Hardware Guide. I am thinking about upgrading. However, my motherboard is an ASUS P5K SE. Can that take PCIe 2.0? Or is it just PCI1, erm, 1.0?
1 Like #37
PCI-E 2.0 is backward compatible with PCI-E 1.0. Youir motherboard has PCI-E (1.0) so you'll be fine.
#38
nick_sub
PCI-E 2.0 is backward compatible with PCI-E 1.0. Youir motherboard has PCI-E (1.0) so you'll be fine.


Thanks Nick. I take it that there would be no performance degradation?
#39
I don't know. Apparently PCI-E 2.0 allows twice the bandwidth of data into the graphics card so I guess it might be better if that is the bottleneck, otherwise I doubt it'll make any difference.
I get the impression that most people still have PCI-E 1.0 motherboards. Mine is 1.0 too and I have this card (the Palit version) and the performance is pretty good (see my post above for an example of framerates in racing sims).
#40
Nom
Yep - the Radeon 4850 is the current budget gaming card of choice.
They retail around £100 though, so you'll need to raise your budget slightly. The ASUS cards are a good buy - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-4850

The memory types are irrelevent for compatibility.
All you need to run a modern card, is a PCI-E slot to plug it into. Some of the higher-end cards also need a beefy power supply, but the 4850 will run on just about anything :)

It'll only play modern games with reduced detail and/or resolution - it's not really suitable for gaming use unless you're running an ultra-low-res screen.


Absolute tosh

You're talking from an enthusiasts perspective. The 4850 is not a budget card by any means, although I would argue that it does provide the best performance to price ratio.

This is a very capable mainstream graphics card. This 4670 runs everything I've thrown at it at maximum apart from crysis at 1650x 1050. The list includes: Bioshock, Deadspace, Fallout 3 and Stalker. Someone who was gaming on a 17" or !9" monitor could max out nearly every title available with headroom for future titles.

I would say that this card is probably overkill for an HTPC, there are some passively-cooled 9400 and 4550 series card which would provide acceleration for HD content and have enough horsepower for the odd game or two. Although this card is very quiet and does not require any addtional power connection the to card itself.

It's a great buy at this price.

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