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Looks a bargain price for a fast desktop pc (no OS included)
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#1
good price
#2
Sounds quite good but once i've stuck in a couple of HDD's and decent sound and graphic cards £304.39 is going to be a distant memory.
#3
Has anyone found out what brand the motherboard is?

Before you say "Intel", the description states an "Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard". Every motherboard for Intel CPUs uses an Intel chipset...I think they are referring to the chipset, not the motherboard.
#4
Lupeto
Has anyone found out what brand the motherboard is?Before you say "Intel", the description states an "Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard". Every motherboard for Intel CPUs uses an Intel chipset...I think they are referring to the chipset, not the motherboard.

Hmmm, something tells me that if they don't mention a premium brand then it's likely to be the cheapest they can find. I remember that there used to be a brand called PC Chips years ago and they were as cheap as chips but they used to fail all the time.

Edit: Looks like PC Chips are still going.

Edited By: RedOnRed on Feb 24, 2011 08:25: edit
#5
RedOnRed
Lupeto
Has anyone found out what brand the motherboard is?Before you say "Intel", the description states an "Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard". Every motherboard for Intel CPUs uses an Intel chipset...I think they are referring to the chipset, not the motherboard.


Hmmm, something tells me that if they don't mention a premium brand then it's likely to be the cheapest they can find. I remember that there used to be a brand called PC Chips years ago and they were as cheap as chips but they used to fail all the time.


The cheapest they sell is an MSI motherboard, which aren't too bad, and ASRock are acquiring a decent reputation for a budget board.

I wouldn't touch a Biostar, Foxconn or ECS board though.
#6
Lupeto
Has anyone found out what brand the motherboard is?Before you say "Intel", the description states an "Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard". Every motherboard for Intel CPUs uses an Intel chipset...I think they are referring to the chipset, not the motherboard.

The spec of the barebones box says 6 USB and 6 SATA, but none of the H55 motherboards they sell have 6 USBs and 6 SATA so not easy to find out what board they are using.
#7
Lupeto
RedOnRed
Lupeto
Has anyone found out what brand the motherboard is?Before you say "Intel", the description states an "Intel H55 Chipset Motherboard". Every motherboard for Intel CPUs uses an Intel chipset...I think they are referring to the chipset, not the motherboard.
Hmmm, something tells me that if they don't mention a premium brand then it's likely to be the cheapest they can find. I remember that there used to be a brand called PC Chips years ago and they were as cheap as chips but they used to fail all the time.
The cheapest they sell is an MSI motherboard, which aren't too bad, and ASRock are acquiring a decent reputation for a budget board.I wouldn't touch a Biostar, Foxconn or ECS board though.

I've had two MSI graphics cards fail on me. Never had another brand go wrong. Am certainly put off them.
#8
guilbert53
The spec of the barebones box says 6 USB and 6 SATA, but none of the H55 motherboards they sell have 6 USBs and 6 SATA so not easy to find out what board they are using.


Looks like it'll be something that they don't sell separately and as cheap as (dodgy computer) chips.

RedOnRed
I've had two MSI graphics cards fail on me. Never had another brand go wrong. Am certainly put off them.

After that info, I'm going to be wary of them in the future. ;)
#9
if its the same one in the picture its a gigabyte board
#10
freezingheat
if its the same one in the picture its a gigabyte board

Would imagine that the board brand will change subject to stock, hence the unspecified brand.
#11
RedOnRed
freezingheat
if its the same one in the picture its a gigabyte board


Would imagine that the board brand will change subject to stock, hence the unspecified brand.


So true, I bought a Novatech laptop before and the specs on the site where wrong but CS & support were good and attentive.
#12
freezingheat
if its the same one in the picture its a gigabyte board


I was just thinking it looked like an MSI board judging by the logo on the chipset HS.

http://images.novatech.co.uk/bb-i5764g_extra1.jpg

Edited By: Marek on Feb 24, 2011 10:08: correct a typo
#13
The motherboard in the picture is a Gigabyte GA-P55-US3L. The motherboard in in the specification however is a much lesser beast.
#14
Says 2 in stock and has the following image against the item in Barebones category....I expect that there are only 2 available.

http://images.novatech.co.uk/_images/when-its-gone-its-gone.png
#15
mumbojumbo
freezingheat
if its the same one in the picture its a gigabyte board


There are different boards and power supplies in the 2 pictures. ;)


:D typical
#16
I wouldn't buy this myself. After speccing up a gaming machine for my mate the barebones only came to £215 and the full system case, good graphics card etc was £400 mainly due to graphics card.

It was also a much, much faster system than this. Pro tip, build yourself lol.
#17
Link to support your claims?
#18
Gone???
#19
SuPerNoVi
I wouldn't buy this myself. After speccing up a gaming machine for my mate the barebones only came to £215 and the full system case, good graphics card etc was £400 mainly due to graphics card.

It was also a much, much faster system than this. Pro tip, build yourself lol.


£400 for a complete gaming rig? I've spent £1497 on mine in a year lol.
#20
Hmm surprised it's gone - they usually build more stock when levels get low. So may be back tomorrow?

The system shown in the picture by Marek is what I bought in October. It had a Foxconn board, 700w PSU and it has worked fine.

Since then I have seen the system on Novatech with another case and a 400w PSU. This i5-760 system disappeared completely when an i5-2500 system was shown. Looks like the Sandy Bridge systems have gone (fair enough - not much point buying a barebones only to have to replace the motherboard - defeats the object) and the old i5 systems are holding the fort.
#21
RedOnRed
Sounds quite good but once i've stuck in a couple of HDD's and decent sound and graphic cards £304.39 is going to be a distant memory.


People still buy soundcards, whut?
#22
dxx
RedOnRed
Sounds quite good but once i've stuck in a couple of HDD's and decent sound and graphic cards £304.39 is going to be a distant memory.
People still buy soundcards, whut?

Sounds like you're yet to discover a decent one?

If your PC is now the primary source of audio, ie, playing MP3's, etc, and you've got some top notch speakers you don't want to make do with an on-board solution. Firstly it will throttle your machine to a degree and secondly it just aint up there.

I'll be treating myself to one of these one day.

Edited By: RedOnRed on Feb 24, 2011 12:42
#23
dxx
RedOnRed
Sounds quite good but once i've stuck in a couple of HDD's and decent sound and graphic cards £304.39 is going to be a distant memory.


People still buy soundcards, whut?


paid £120 for my sound card better for THX and 7.1
damm shame this item sold out would of swapped out the stock cooler thro
1 Like #24
Crammage
Link to support your claims?


4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, D 1 £32.12
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, 1 £98.96
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3, AMD 770, AM 1 £47.77
VAT £35.77
Total £214.62

They were the main components. The case and psu on this look dirt cheap so another £30-40 on that, not that I'd recommend going cheap on a PSU. Whack a decent graphics card and hard drive in there and it's a little over £400 for a reasonably decent gaming rig.
banned 2 Likes #25
Just so people know, because I work at Novatech:

It would be a Foxconn H55m-S micro atx motherboard which are cheap but good solid boards.

If it says gone when its gone it means we wont be getting that spec in again, we should be bringing in a new I5 bundle soon though.

The 700W power supply 'iandhind' got was a cheaper oem brand one, the 400W models they are using now are much much better, module, quiet and can actually outperform the cheaper 700W
#26
Damn missed it! :(
#27
Yomanda
Damn missed it! :(


You should be glad, a lot of cheap components used. Not a good deal in my opinion.
#28
SuPerNoVi
Crammage
Link to support your claims?


4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, D 1 £32.12
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, 1 £98.96
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3, AMD 770, AM 1 £47.77
VAT £35.77
Total £214.62

They were the main components. The case and psu on this look dirt cheap so another £30-40 on that, not that I'd recommend going cheap on a PSU. Whack a decent graphics card and hard drive in there and it's a little over £400 for a reasonably decent gaming rig.


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=191

welp, looks like your machine is not "much, much faster" after all.

And those benchmarks are for a stock speed i5 760; if you overclocked it mildly to match the 3.4Ghz of the Phenom, which you could probably do without the need for a better cooler, you'd see an even bigger performance gap.
#29
xela333
Just so people know, because I work at Novatech:It would be a Foxconn H55m-S micro atx motherboard which are cheap but good solid boards.If it says gone when its gone it means we wont be getting that spec in again, we should be bringing in a new I5 bundle soon though.The 700W power supply 'iandhind' got was a cheaper oem brand one, the 400W models they are using now are much much better, module, quiet and can actually outperform the cheaper 700W
You might want to suggest to Novatech that they identify all of the components when they bring out the new bundle.
#30
foxrocks
SuPerNoVi
Crammage
Link to support your claims?


4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3 Classic, D 1 £32.12
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition, 1 £98.96
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3, AMD 770, AM 1 £47.77
VAT £35.77
Total £214.62

They were the main components. The case and psu on this look dirt cheap so another £30-40 on that, not that I'd recommend going cheap on a PSU. Whack a decent graphics card and hard drive in there and it's a little over £400 for a reasonably decent gaming rig.


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=191


welp, looks like your machine is not "much, much faster" after all.

And those benchmarks are for a stock speed i5 760; if you overclocked it mildly to match the 3.4Ghz of the Phenom, which you could probably do without the need for a better cooler, you'd see an even bigger performance gap.


People have overclocked the Phenom to a stable 6Ghz so if we're going to bring overclocking into the mix both can be done.

Secondly, the system I specced has a much better motherboard and almost certainly better quality memory. Just because it has one good component doesn't mean the whole system is of the same quality, it's just not a good system.

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