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Belkin 2 Metre RJ45 UTP Crossover Cable 99p @ Argos

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5y, 10m agoFound 5 years, 10 months ago
Managed to get 2 at my local store so there is stock around,

was £6.95

* 2m cable.
* For connecting a hub to hub, PC to PC or Mac to Mac for transferring and sharing files.
* Plug and play.
* Moulded strain relief - bends easily for durability and fit.
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#1
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)
#2
does anyone knows how long will it take to transfer let say 1gb data from laptop to laptop using that cable? thanks for help
#3
GB credit crunch
does anyone knows how long will it take to transfer let say 1gb data from laptop to laptop using that cable? thanks for help


Depends totally on what NICs the laptops have.
#5
Uridium
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)


It's not just a GE feature, I've got an old USB/Ethernet drive caddy that doesn't need a crossover cable. Darned if I can remember the name of the technology though!

EDIT: It's "Auto MDI/MDIX " that allows use of a normal or crossover cable.

Edited By: spamcan61 on Jan 13, 2011 11:23
#6
Great, actually need one of these for an old machine. Time to look for some stock...cheers.

...phew got one of the last ones in Birmingham. That was close!

One left at West Brom.

Edited By: shadow_boxer on Jan 13, 2011 11:46: update stock
#7
just orderd came at right time just got a pc so be able to get all my old stuff of my paptop
#8
GB credit crunch
does anyone knows how long will it take to transfer let say 1gb data from laptop to laptop using that cable? thanks for help

If both laptops have GigaBit ethernet ports and use chipsets that can support GigaBit at full speed then the actual data transfer will take 8 seconds. However you will probably be using Windows File Sharing which is notoriously inefficient and unpredicatable so you could be looking at a much longer time, say 30 seconds. If you can't support Gigabit it will run at 100mbps, so 1GB is 80 seconds (plus overheads lets make it 100 seconds).
#9
Just got the last one in Macc. Currently one in each of the following. Wythenshawe, Leek, Alty, and both Stockports.
1 Like #10
Or you could just spend 59p and convert a regular RJ45 patch to a crossover...

Crossover converter I'm sure you can get these in many other places as well.

Edited By: mcintg on Jan 13, 2011 13:22
#11
mcintg
Or you could just spend 59p and convert a regular RJ45 patch to a crossover...

Crossover converter I'm sure you can get these in many other places as well.


lol, some people will make anything :D
#12
I thought that crossover cables couldn't do the full throughput as it's operating in a similar way to half-duplex? So two 100mbs devices connected accross to each other (manual ip addresses of course) only run at 10mbps?
#13
these are cheap... hot for me
#14
Uridium
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)

Does that mean I can connect two laptops together just by using an ordinary network cable?

Edit: Where to I look in the machines to see if they have Gigabit and the correct NIC's (or whatever else I need to check) and what exactly am I looking for it to say?

Edited By: shaggydabbydo on Jan 13, 2011 13:57
#15
Will these work with an xbox 360?
#16
Bossworld
I thought that crossover cables couldn't do the full throughput as it's operating in a similar way to half-duplex? So two 100mbs devices connected accross to each other (manual ip addresses of course) only run at 10mbps?

The quoted speeds (100Mbps etc) are for half-duplex, so full duplex would effectively run at 200Mbps.

The only difference between normal and crossover cables is the layout of the wires, so I don't think this would cause any reduction in speed.
#17
got the last one from Glossop :) Cheers OP
1 Like #18
shaggydabbydo
Uridium
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)


Does that mean I can connect two laptops together just by using an ordinary network cable?

Edit: Where to I look in the machines to see if they have Gigabit and the correct NIC's (or whatever else I need to check) and what exactly am I looking for it to say?


Look in device manager, find your network card then look at properties>advanced> look for the speed setting and see if it has a 1000mbps option

If both devices have gigabit yes you can connect them together with a standard Cat5e/Cat6 ethernet cable
#19
Using this cable can I connect my laptop to my another laptop? what else I need to check in the laptops? Please advice.

Thanks in advance,
G
#20
gautamvt
Using this cable can I connect my laptop to my another laptop? what else I need to check in the laptops? Please advice.

Thanks in advance,
G


see post above....
#21
mcintg
Or you could just spend 59p and convert a regular RJ45 patch to a crossover...Crossover converter I'm sure you can get these in many other places as well.

UK P&P is 99p+vat :p
#22
@gautamvt You can ad-hoc your wireless also if your trying to get two laptops to communicate, might be of some interest to you..

how to ad-hoc
#23
I bought a "RJ45 Crossover Adapter" from ebay a couple of months ago for £1 delivered and normal ethernet cables to use with them are aplenty in £land. However I have not yet had time to setup the messy connection which I had once done a few years ago. There are plenty of childish guides on the web saying how easy it is but in reality it can be very tricky from renaming all workgroups/users/passwords to be the same to shutting down firewalls etc. and even then there are problems. See the links at bottom. I would say use a USB drive or SD card to transfer files. Or setup a local WiFi connection with a utility software. Or just use the router. Another way is to use cheap Bluetooth dongles. Then I would say buy or somehow get the Bluesoleil software for Bluetooth dongles which needs a bit of getting used to as well but is fast enough once it gets going.

Basically Microsoft should not focus on vaccinating billions with dodgy vaccines or pushing for population reduction of the planet by "any means necessary" and lobbying governments to license (hence censor) all websites as Bill Gates and his dad and his major MS partner are always doing. They are too busy constantly stealing software ideas from others and redoing them in-house for decades instead of making networking and other O/S basics straightforward.

Life is too short but if you have time to waste:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7network/thread/95d52f8a-1a6a-4048-bef6-69f08e63295b
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpronetworking/thread/368fd8f3-ae96-4210-94b1-b0eaed6aef97
#24
Reserved one - hope it is plug and play! as I have no idea how to use it otherwise. Just want to connect a couple of computers
#25
Good find, heat added.
#26
stphnstevey
Reserved one - hope it is plug and play! as I have no idea how to use it otherwise. Just want to connect a couple of computers

It is. You will pick up an IP called an APIPA, and this will start with 169.(x.x.x). You can then transfer to your hearts content.

To clarify a couple of "interesting" points above:

- No, crossies dont run at a lower transfer rate than standard (straight through) patch leads - its only the pin out that differs.
- Auto MDIX isnt a Gigabit thing, at all.

Most PCs will in fact use a straight through for this purpose successfully, but its still cheap for a 2m patch lead of any variety.

Definitely good if you have any kind of advanced network interest, such as using Cisco kit (which is what I will be acquiring a couple for!).
#27
are these any good for PS3 to PS3 transfers?
#28
Thanks OP, one picked up from Christchurch this evening (one left) possibly not the most exciting deal ever but 'every little helps'.
#29
MrShed
stphnstevey
Reserved one - hope it is plug and play! as I have no idea how to use it otherwise. Just want to connect a couple of computers


It is. You will pick up an IP called an APIPA, and this will start with 169.(x.x.x). You can then transfer to your hearts content.

To clarify a couple of "interesting" points above:

- No, crossies dont run at a lower transfer rate than standard (straight through) patch leads - its only the pin out that differs.
- Auto MDIX isnt a Gigabit thing, at all.

Most PCs will in fact use a straight through for this purpose successfully, but its still cheap for a 2m patch lead of any variety.

Definitely good if you have any kind of advanced network interest, such as using Cisco kit (which is what I will be acquiring a couple for!).


Not in terms of the speed of the cable, but I was always under the impression two windows machines running via crossover (not involving a hub or a switch) would give the slower speed?

Interested to read about the APIPA thing, always just assumed 169 meant no DHCP, didn't realise it would still be usable
#30
Thanks op. Just reserved the last one in Bedford.
#31
Thanks, just got a new PC for christmas so needed one of these. Lsat one reserved at Anlaby, Hull. Thanks.
#32
Uridium
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)


What a load of toot !!!
#33
goretex
Uridium
Cheap but rarely needed nowadays with most devices having Gigabit (Crossover works with a std cable between gigabit devices)


What a load of toot !!!


Not really..I haven't used a crossover cable for years..all my kit is Gigabit
#34
Uridium
Not really..I haven't used a crossover cable for years..all my kit is Gigabit


You're lucky, the price of GigaBit only became affordable in the last few months, so either you have re-kitted recently or your older kit is all top-of-the-range stuff.

Also crossover is NOT the same as GigaBit. RJ45 sockets that work with both straight-through and crossover cables are called Auto MDI/MDIX. That has been a standard feature for many years now.



Edited By: nick1austin on Jan 14, 2011 12:44
#35
nick1austin
Uridium
Not really..I haven't used a crossover cable for years..all my kit is Gigabit


You're lucky, the price of GigaBit only became affordable in the last few months, so either you have re-kitted recently or your older kit is all top-of-the-range stuff.

Also crossover is NOT the same as GigaBit. RJ45 sockets that work with both straight-through and crossover cables are called Auto MDI/MDIX. That has been a standard feature for many years now.




not at all. 4yr old Lenovo 3000 series laptop cost £400 and was one of the bottom of Lenovo range at the time. 3yr old PS3, 3yr old Dell Optiplex 745 Pc, Home build PC with cheap gigabyte m/b, Acer Revo.

All have Gigabit. Gigabit NIC's have been standard on most motherboards for several yrs.

I never said gigabit and crossover were the same. MDI/MDIX is an optional feature of gigabit..but reality is that 99% of Gigabit NIC's include this feature

Edited By: Uridium on Jan 14, 2011 14:52
#36
Got mine today. Thanks again.

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