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Belkin CAT5e Crossover Patch Cable (RJ-45) - 3 metres

Found this cable instore at Poundland and is a bargain compared to places like PC World !

Used for :

- Connecting one PC to another PC without the need for a hub (where each PC has an
ethernet card with RJ-45 connection)

- Connecting a PC to an ADSL modem/router (RJ-45 connections)

- Connecting a PC to a hub (RJ-45 connections) etc...

Bargain for only £1.00 ! Instore at Poundland.
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#1
Here's the description on the back of the pack:

" Belkin Pro Series quality CAT5e crossover patch cables are used in Ethernet 10/100 Base-T network applications.
The cable will provide superior network performance and can be used to connect a PC with an Ehernet 10/100 Base-T card directly to a second 10/100 Base-T PC without the need for a hub. "

I used it to connect my PC to ADSL modem router (works a treat !).
#2
Working in 'the trade' I'm amazed how much these cost in retail outlets.

I was just walking out of Curry's Digital the other day and saw a promotion bin by the front door with a load of 3 metre cables in at the 'special price' of £14.99 :shock:
#3
>- Connecting a PC to an ADSL modem/router (RJ-45 connections)
>- Connecting a PC to a hub (RJ-45 connections) etc...

I thought a crossover cable could only be used to connect one PC to another PC directly (not going via a modem or router).

I did not think it could be used for connecting a PC to a modem or router.

Willing to be proved wrong becaue I have never used a crosover cable before, it is just that was my understanding.
#4
guilbert53
>- Connecting a PC to an ADSL modem/router (RJ-45 connections)
>- Connecting a PC to a hub (RJ-45 connections) etc...

I thought a crossover cable could only be used to connect one PC to another PC directly (not going via a modem or router).

I did not think it could be used for connecting a PC to a modem or router.

Willing to be proved wrong becaue I have never used a crosover cable before, it is just that was my understanding.


You are correct, however most routers/switches can auto detect a crossover cable and adjust accordingly.
#5
scrooge
You are correct, however most routers/switches can auto detect a crossover cable and adjust accordingly.

:thumbsup:
#6
indeed i always assumed that ! i was amazed when i saw meters of patch cable being used to wire up entire networks !

people used to use straight through cable for switchs and routers ?
#7
Sure this is £20 or so in PCW. Bargain.
#8
so there is no use to this other than a direct connection between 2 pcs?
#9
mrbg07546;3237134
so there is no use to this other than a direct connection between 2 pcs?


Nope.

Connect PC to PC, PC to router, router to switch, switch to router, PC to switch etc.....

Basically anything RJ45 socket to any other socket. As has been previosuly mentioned, straight through or crossover makes no difference these days as any kit from the last few years is auto-sensing.

With regard to the price, it's very cheap for the High Street, but you can buy from Ebuyer etc with a choice of colours (which is useful) for less money
#10
Also very useful to transfer files to a modded Xbox if you're running XBMC. It's a much quicker way to transfer larger files such as movies rather than transferring over a wireless network. A very good deal.
#11
Slightly better than Currys - £59.99 for a 15m Belkin Ethernet cable :w00t:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/232/img0264roz9.jpg
#12
Dellboy
Nope.

Connect PC to PC, PC to router, router to switch, switch to router, PC to switch etc.....

Basically anything RJ45 socket to any other socket. As has been previosuly mentioned, straight through or crossover makes no difference these days as any kit from the last few years is auto-sensing.

With regard to the price, it's very cheap for the High Street, but you can buy from Ebuyer etc with a choice of colours (which is useful) for less money


+1

Look for devices that can auto switch between MDI and MDI-X. Gigabit network equipment should be able to do this automatically.
#13
Thanks, always useful to have a spare of these for hooking things up to the network.
#14
yes, good find. got philex one for 1 quid from b&q clearance. has many uses especially the softmodded xbox and transferring files between pc's/laptop without putting a router in line!
#15
Unbeliveably cheap, always handy to have around.
#16
sam_41
Thanks, always useful to have a spare of these for hooking things up to the network.


This is a crossover cable does not replace a standard erthenet cable, I use one to backup my laptop hard drive to my main pc without using a hub.
#17
Poundland also had Belkin CAT6 (labelled as patch only) which are a used from your router to PC/laptop/PS3 etc. Stick with those if you want that option.
#18
There are a couple of competitions on the poundland home page as well.
#19
With regards to straight or crossover look for Auto Uplink this is what Netgear like to call it on their network equipment.

3m is no good to me really but is worth £1 specially if it is at least 5(e) (If my local poundland was still open I would buy some)
#20
dcx_badass
I was about to post this as I just bought two today. You cna use them for PC to PC or PC to router, it should work as both, all my other crossovers work for both.


Crossover cables only work from PC to PC if one or both are gigabit NICs (as they inherently support auto MDI and MDI-X sensing).

Edit: Idiot! I meant straight through cables in the above statement!!!!
#21
Was about to list this myself......bought quite a few on saturday.....they have the gold Belkin A to B as well. Great value!! the network cables 7m (rj45) they also have a philips A to B which retracts to save space.... I thought there would'nt be any left but the usual poundland shopper didnt no what they are....so was lucky to get alot of stuff.

Great find
#22
Could this one be used for connecting the xbox 360 to a laptop to use the wireless for xbox live?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130686
#23
dcx_badass
Well mine works from my PC to Xbox, or my PC to router, on my xbox to router, and none of them are gigabit.


Yep, you're quite right - had a blonde moment. I meant straight through cables!!
1 Like #24
cbryanp
Could this one be used for connecting the xbox 360 to a laptop to use the wireless for xbox live?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130686


That's a straight-through cable and you would need to ensure your laptop had a gigabit LAN connection. If not, then I'd definitely go for the poundland one. Failing that, you can pick up ethernet switches these days for pennies or most ISPs supply routers nowadays.
#25
Xb0xGuru
That's a straight-through cable and you would need to ensure your laptop had a gigabit LAN connection. If not, then I'd definitely go for the poundland one. Failing that, you can pick up ethernet switches these days for pennies or most ISPs supply routers nowadays.


Thanks repped both of you :thumbsup:
#26
Not being that pc literate...can this be used to link a pc and laptop together and enable the laptop to go online using the same broadband connection as the pc??? Or is anything else needed for this to work :?
#27
For those of you who don't have a Poundland near you. I have plenty of these cables..they have been used but are in A1 condition, I would be happy to offload them for £1 each or even less for a quantity...various lengths, 2m,3m 4m...just contact me!
#28
freecycle
Not being that pc literate...can this be used to link a pc and laptop together and enable the laptop to go online using the same broadband connection as the pc??? Or is anything else needed for this to work :?


Yes - it's how I'm presently got 2 machines connected right now :)

You're looking to use something called Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)- there are a few documents on the Microsoft website which will help you configure it.

If your currently using an IP address of 192.168.0.x for your connection to your broadband router, you'll need to change it to something else in order to fully use ICS as it uses this range too.

Again, there are help guides online to do all of this if you're not sure.
#29
Do they also do the USB network/crossover type cable? If yes, how much are these please - £1 too?

tomatoman;3239687
For those of you who don't have a Poundland near you. I have plenty of these cables..they have been used but are in A1 condition, I would be happy to offload them for £1 each or even less for a quantity...various lengths, 2m,3m 4m...just contact me!
That's very kind tomatoman :)

I'd suggest you start a FS thread to obey FS/FT forum rules.

I wouldn't mind a USB-type crossover cable if you have one :thumbsup:
#30
There is absolutely no need for gigabit equipment for auto mdi/mdi-x. Plenty of 100mbit cards/routers/switches support it too, and it's not even mandatory on gigabit products.
#31
Deleted User Name 3
There is absolutely no need for gigabit equipment for auto mdi/mdi-x. Plenty of 100mbit cards/routers/switches support it too, and it's not even mandatory on gigabit products.


What I said was IF you have a gigabit LAN card/router, it will be supported.

From the MDI / MDI-X wiki:
"Newer routers, hubs and switches (including some 10/100, and all 1 Gigabit or 10 Gigabit devices) use Auto MDI/MDIX to automatically switch to the proper configuration once a cable is connected."

Depending on the equipment purchased, it's not always stated as to what's supported in terms of MDI / MDI-X switching. This is especially true of laptop Ethernet connections.
#32
Xb0xGuru
What I said was IF you have a gigabit LAN card/router, it will be supported.

Xb0xGuru
Crossover cables only work from PC to PC if one or both are gigabit NICs




From the MDI / MDI-X wiki:
"Newer routers, hubs and switches (including some 10/100, and all 1 Gigabit or 10 Gigabit devices) use Auto MDI/MDIX to automatically switch to the proper configuration once a cable is connected."

From the Standards:
"40.4.4 Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration
Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration is intended to eliminate the need for crossover cables
between similar devices. Implementation of an automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration is optional for 1000BASE-T devices. If an automatic configuration method is used, it shall comply with the following specifications. The assignment of pin-outs for a 1000BASE-T crossover function cable is shown in Table 40-12 in 40.8."


10gigabit however requires auto mdi/mdi-x:

http://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1183.pdf
"Automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration is intended to eliminate the need for
crossover cables between similar devices. Automatic MDI/MDI-X
configuration is required for 10GBASE-T devices and shall comply with
40.4.4.1 and 40.4.4.2."


Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia, especially when another page on it contradicts:

Wikimess
"Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration is specified as an optional feature in the 1000BASE-T standard[1], "
#33
Anyone in the "trade" gets them from the same place as they get their software.
#34
Fat Bird
Anyone in the "trade" gets them from the same place as they get their software.

The Piracy Tree? ;>
#35
Deleted User Name 3
From the Standards:
"40.4.4 Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration
Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration is intended to eliminate the need for crossover cables
between similar devices. Implementation of an automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration is optional for 1000BASE-T devices. If an automatic configuration method is used, it shall comply with the following specifications. The assignment of pin-outs for a 1000BASE-T crossover function cable is shown in Table 40-12 in 40.8."


10gigabit however requires auto mdi/mdi-x:

http://www.ieee802.org/3/maint/requests/maint_1183.pdf
"Automatic MDI/MDI-X configuration is intended to eliminate the need for
crossover cables between similar devices. Automatic MDI/MDI-X
configuration is required for 10GBASE-T devices and shall comply with
40.4.4.1 and 40.4.4.2."


Don't believe everything you read on wikipedia, especially when another page on it contradicts:

Wikimess
"Automatic MDI/MDI-X Configuration is specified as an optional feature in the 1000BASE-T standard[1], "


I'm sure you're familiar with the term 'Arguing for the sake of arguing'! Find me a 1000Base-T device which doesn't support auto-switching and you'll have yourself a discussion :)

In any case, thanks for the correction :p
#36
Xb0xGuru
I'm sure you're familiar with the term 'Arguing for the sake of arguing'!

Definitely, in this case however I simply wanted to correct a couple of mistakes. Arguing for the sake of arguing is what you do in the pub when you want to start a fight... =]


Find me a 1000Base-T device which doesn't support auto-switching and you'll have yourself a discussion :)

What's to discuss, the IEEE 802.3 standards say it is optional, so it is optional. Many 10/100mbit cards support it. Both things I said are correct - nothing left to discuss.


In any case, thanks for the correction :p

Always happy to help.
#37
Deleted User Name 3
What's to discuss, the IEEE 802.3 standards say it is optional, so it is optional. Many 10/100mbit cards support it.


List the 10Mbit cards which support it and at the same time list the 1Gbit cards which don't. You want to argue the point so please - be my guest.

Optional or not, it's standard in all 1Gbit cards I've seen. I can't say the same for 10/100Mbit devices. Honestly -I only posted what I did to give people a good indication as to what to look for when linking 2 PCs with a straight-through cable! You've heard the saying about people who argue on the Internet? :whistling:
#38
:lol: @ this thread.

I just make my own cables, tidier.
#39
so is this any good for connecting a broadband modem to a wifi router as Im trying to set up a wireless network for my laptop
#40
Deleted User Name 3;3244785
The Piracy Tree? ;>


Piracy's such an ugly word, I prefer the Microsoft Test Route, in order to fully test the software it has to be installed on non-standard machines in unusual environments.

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