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Belkin F5D8235uk4 N+300 Mbps Cable Router Gigabit and USB port £55.15 collect at store @ PC World

£55.15 @ PC World
Product code: 100239 The direct link may not work due to session, but the product code is on the top. Remember it's a web price so reserve it and print out your reservation and collect at the store… Read More
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7y, 10m agoFound 7 years, 10 months ago
Product code: 100239

The direct link may not work due to session, but the product code is on the top. Remember it's a web price so reserve it and print out your reservation and collect at the store. A little tip though - if it says it is out of stock at your local store, go there first as apparently if their shelf stock is at 3 or lower it will show out of stock online (so I was told).

I had been looking to have a Gigabit network for some time and once I bought my NAS drive I upgraded my cable router to an Edimax gigabit wireless N router. What a nightmare that was. Couldn't get my laptop to connect at more than 54mb and took 3 days of persuasion to actually get the router to get on the internet. 5 weeks later it died so I looked for an alternative. Previously I had hated Belkin on much experience with their older products, but I saw this one (previously at £60 in Comet) and went for it.

What a fantastic piece of kit. Perfect signal. Low ping. Wireless laptop at 300mb straight away. A doddle to set up and looks the buisiness. Over the last 3 weeks I have never had it drop signal even using my laptop in the neighbours house.

I like a bargain and when it works spectacularly then I like to share it here, and at £55.15 for all it offers is brilliant IMHO. It's a cable router - not ADSL ! Ignore the stupid Reevo impartial review and the odd spec from pcworld saying 270 wireless when it's 300.


Here's the spec:

Lifetime warranty.

USB port for Storage:
Belkin's N+ Wireless Router features a USB Storage port on the back of the router for connecting USB storage devices such as an external hard drive or thumb drive to the network. Now you can centrally store and share media content and files from the USB hard drive to every computer on the network.

Green Networking:
The N+ Router uses Green Ethernet Ports to reduce energy usage by up to 40% compared to standard Ethernet Ports.

This innovative energy-saving technology that automatically detects connectivity status and cable length, and then adjusts power accordingly. The router also feature Wi-Fi scheduling that allows users to easily program when the Wi-Fi radio signals are turned on and off to further save energy consumption.

Belkin is helping protect the environment whilst our customers save money in the process.

N Technology:
The N+ router is based on the draft 802.11n 2.0 technology which provides the wireless range to easily cover any-size home or office. The N+ Router has the bandwidth and speed for handling media intensive applications that take up large amounts of your bandwidth.

Gigabit Ethernet ports:
This router also features gigabit Ethernet ports for a wired connection that can handle applications that take up a large amount of bandwidth.

Speedometer:
The LED speedometerindicates the download speed of your network.

Push Button Security:
Simply create a secure wireless connection with the push of a button by using WPS.
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#1
Nice!

Tempted to chuck my network kit and get this, seems to have it all this one - for a low price too.
#2
Will an attached USB drive spin down when idle? (assuming it does when connected directly to a PC).
What's the maximum transfer rate that the router supports via the USB interface?
#3
Agharta
Will an attached USB drive spin down when idle? (assuming it does when connected directly to a PC).
What's the maximum transfer rate that the router supports via the USB interface?


The usb is slow. The last firmware update speeded it up a bit but its still slow.

However even when thats taken into account this is an excellent router.

Hopefully the next update will allow for printers and other devices to be connected.
#4
deathtrap3000
The usb is slow. The last firmware update speeded it up a bit but its still slow.

Thanks. Can you give a rough estimate of the speed?

I checked the manual and it says:

"Note that the Router currently supports FAT, FAT32, and NTFS file systems"
#5
Agharta
Thanks. Can you give a rough estimate of the speed?


Read/Write speed is about 1.5MB/s
#6
deathtrap3000
Read/Write speed is about 1.5MB/s

Thanks again. I’m wondering how that compares to a NAS such as the WD My Book World Edition?
So many cheap NAS units seem to be very slow and I’m just starting to research buying one for my parents who never backup. :w00t:
#7
Agharta
I’m wondering how that compares to a NAS such as the WD My Book World Edition?

I just read a review which quoted just over 2MB/s for the WD so this isn't so bad - http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/10/review-1tb-western-digital-my-book-world-edition-nas/

Does the HDD spin down when not in use?
#8
1.5MB/s is awful, my Airport Extreme gets 5MB/s over the wireless, and more over wired.

1.5MB/s isn't enough to stream HD videos.
#9
Agharta
Does the HDD spin down when not in use?


It should do. I have a flash drive plugged in atm so I cant check for certain.
#10
Good deal but not a great router still voted hot because im voting the deal not the product.
#11
No ADSL = No heat.

Is there a version with ADSL as most users are ADSL?
#12
Bah I was going to buy this to attach my ext HDD to but I'll not bother if the speeds are that slow.
#13
weiran
1.5MB/s is awful, my Airport Extreme gets 5MB/s over the wireless, and more over wired.

1.5MB/s isn't enough to stream HD videos.


I think he was referring to the speed of the USB writer in the router, not the actual internet streaming speed.
#14
This is a nice router (I have the ADSL version) but it is worth noting that the USB port is only available to the local network; i.e. you cannot connect to it remotely via FTP etc.
#15
Taylor704
I think he was referring to the speed of the USB writer in the router, not the actual internet streaming speed.


Yes, he was. and that is a pretty awful speed for a NAS in my book.
#16
I connect my NAS drive to the gigabit port and it's great for video and audio. I would only use the USB port on the odd occasion.
#17
Brill, reserved mine, will pick it up tomorrow. Perfect timing, just about to move house and my old wireless router is a bit flaky (and only wireless G).
#18
I came home from holiday to find my Belkin Vision router had died for no reason. That's the second one in two years. I know that PC Pro has A listed this model but I swear I'm never buying Belkin again...even at a this price!
#19
Noghar
I came home from holiday to find my Belkin Vision router had died for no reason. That's the second one in two years. I know that PC Pro has A listed this model but I swear I'm never buying Belkin again...even at a this price!


But they have a lifetime guarantee so why the hell not :-D
#20
brainbug100
But they have a lifetime guarantee so why the hell not :-D

The catch is once they die on you they’re no longer alive so not coved by the lifetime warranty. :w00t:
#21
Noghar
I came home from holiday to find my Belkin Vision router had died for no reason. That's the second one in two years. I know that PC Pro has A listed this model but I swear I'm never buying Belkin again...even at a this price!


I had a 4 year old Belkin router; it went wrong; they sent me an envelope to send it back; which I did; they replaced it all within a week...

not a bad service...

Plus all you ADSL users... this is worth getting just as an access point off your ADSL modem; that can still do all the DHCP assigning etc... this can just boost your network to gigabit...

well worth it whoever your ISP if you ask me (and I know you didn't :w00t: )
#22
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#23
For those enquiring about the USB speed, I have done a quick test. Writing to a generic 1G USB stick a 72Mb file took 50 seconds to write to and 35 seconds to read back from. Agreed it's not fast but convenient for sharing. I'd still prefer to use the Gigabit for sharing anyway.

Hope this is of some help.
#24
Wongo
For those enquiring about the USB speed, I have done a quick test. Writing to a generic 1G USB stick a 72Mb file took 50 seconds to write to and 35 seconds to read back from. Agreed it's not fast but convenient for sharing. I'd still prefer to use the Gigabit for sharing anyway. Hope this is of some help.

Thanks. 1.5MB/sec is a slow write speed but when I checked the speed of inexpensive NAS drives they seem to manage about 2MB/sec so it’s not that much slower.
The advantage of using this Router in conjunction with a USB drive rather than a NAS is that you can also use the USB drive directly connected to a PC for bulk transfers and then use it as a NAS for incremental backups.
If you have a NAS that reads at 2MB/Sec it will take almost 6 days to restore 1TB of data. Not much use really is it!!

After realising this I wouldn’t bother buying a NAS unless it also has the ability to connect directly to a PC with significantly faster transfer rates. This is especially important if you are using it as your primary and only backup source unless you like a very long wait.
Some NAS units also have a USB connection that allows direct connection to a PC. Note that some NAS units have a USB port that only allows connection of an external drive though. E.g. WD My Book World Ediiton. It’s a bloomin’ minefield. :?
#25
:-DAnd the same 72mb file sent to the NAS drive via Gigabit ethernet took roughly 7 seconds !
#26
Wongo
:-DAnd the same 72mb file sent to the NAS drive via Gigabit ethernet took roughly 7 seconds !

What NAS driive do you have?
#27
Agharta
What NAS driive do you have?


Edimax NS-2502 (was just a bit over £100 so cheap). Takes 2 x SATA hard drives, raid etc. I have to say it's very quick but the fan is a bit noisy. Will be going in the loft out of the way soon. I think the netgear which is dearer may have been a better choice. I do though like the look of the Synology Disk Station DS209j Gigabit Ethernet NAS Enclosure (bigger quieter fan). So may flebay the edimax and buy that.

Oh and a 350Mb iso file took just 25 seconds to download. Fairly nippy i would say.
#28
thanks for the heads-up - heat left!:thumbsup:

picked one up from the new nottingham store - what a bunch of muppets!! pre-ordered on-line left it one and a half hours - sent wife in to collect - could find it and did not have a clue what this was or what it looked like!!! the staff are no better than the castle meadow branch!!!:prop::prop::?
#29
jbar1610
thanks for the heads-up - heat left!:thumbsup:

picked one up from the new nottingham store - what a bunch of muppets!! pre-ordered on-line left it one and a half hours - sent wife in to collect - could find it and did not have a clue what this was or what it looked like!!! the staff are no better than the castle meadow branch!!!:prop::prop::?


Amazing, had the same in the Birmingham branch took three staff members to track it down, eventually found two sitting on the wrong shelf. They told me I was getting a great deal tried to make out it normally costs £89 what a Kermit!:w00t:
#30
Bhogey
Amazing, had the same in the Birmingham branch took three staff members to track it down, eventually found two sitting on the wrong shelf. They told me I was getting a great deal tried to make out it normally costs £89 what a Kermit!:w00t:


They were £80 at PCworld about 3 weeks ago when Comet had the £60 offer on. I got them to price match as Comet only had them for delivery and I wanted to pick one up.
#31
For those not near a PCW you can get it for £60 delivered from Laskys with TopCashback available for 3 - 4.5%.

I ordered one for collection but they hadn’t put it to one side but did manage to find one on the shelf where it was listed at more than £55.
#32
Picked mine up from my local PCW yesterday, no problems :) Well, I'll see if there are no problems in a couple of weeks I suppose... (don't need to use it yet)
#33
Picked mine up today

replacing a mimo belkin router

Range is better but not much better wirelessly although the mimo router was good and far superior to 54g, gigabit is a bonus for my hardwired gaming pc

Easy to set up although security was not enabled in the factory settings

Rubbish instructions on what else all these features do on all the router menus.

haven't used the usb port yet but I have a usb hard drive
#34
Yiddo4life
Picked mine up today

replacing a mimo belkin router

Range is better but not much better wirelessly although the mimo router was good and far superior to 54g, gigabit is a bonus for my hardwired gaming pc

Easy to set up although security was not enabled in the factory settings

Rubbish instructions on what else all these features do on all the router menus.

haven't used the usb port yet but I have a usb hard drive


Dont forget to install the Belkin storage manager ! :whistling:
banned#35
is this the router you get with virgin 50meg
#36
dj_urban
is this the router you get with virgin 50meg


Nope



Wongo
Dont forget to install the Belkin storage manager ! :whistling:


You dont need to.
#37
Would someone confirm whether any hard drive connected to it will power down (or spin down) when not in use?
#38
Agharta
Would someone confirm whether any hard drive connected to it will power down (or spin down) when not in use?


OK a hard drive in a usb adaptor has the hardware to control the drive built in to the adaptor itself. You would need to check with the make of adaptor to see if it has idle power/spin down. The router as far as I am aware would not control the USB adaptor for power down. Also you must use a usb adaptor with it's own power supply, you cannot use the usb power to run the drive directly i.e. portable 2.5" drives.
#39
Regarding the instruction manual - they are on the CD included

This states it will power a hard drive from memory of upto 500ma or something.

It will allow access to 4 drives via a powered usb hub.

I have not tried this yet though no rush to share my drive, would rather be able to use it as a print server.

Important though - firmware on mine is out of date - I only ever got a signal strength of 1 light on my strong cable connection

Updated via here to 2.01.07 - Now all lights are on
http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/article/?lid=enu&pid=F5D8235uk4&aid=14368
#40
Wongo
OK a hard drive in a usb adaptor has the hardware to control the drive built in to the adaptor itself. You would need to check with the make of adaptor to see if it has idle power/spin down. The router as far as I am aware would not control the USB adaptor for power down.

My WD external 1TB 3.5” HDD spins down after about 10 minutes when connected to my PC; as per the Power Options setting. But if I turn it on and don’t connect it to a PC it spins constantly which isn’t very promising. I was thinking of using a 2.5” drive anyway.

Wongo
Also you must use a usb adaptor with it's own power supply, you cannot use the usb power to run the drive directly i.e. portable 2.5" drives.

I didn’t think about that so checked the User Guide which states that it outputs 500mA:

“Your Belkin N+ Wireless Modem Router supports up to four USB storage devices through a separate USB hub (not included) Note that the Router can supply a maximum of 500mA of current to the port, so it is recommended that the hub be externally powered Additionally, some USB hard drives require more than 500mA and must be externally powered to function.”

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