Belkin G Wireless ADSL Modem Router with Easy Set Up & 54Mbps Transfer Speed (F5D7634uk4-H) £9.99 Delivered @ Play - HotUKDeals
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* 4 Ethernet Ports for Wired Connections
* Compatible with ADSL, ADSL 2 & ADSL 2+
* Easy setup Assistant and troubleshooting with Network Status Display
* Free 24/7 technical support (local rates apply)
* IEEE 802.11g/b Compliant
* Suitable for ADSL connections: BT/Talktalk/Orange/Tiscali/O2

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#1
At least they have the correct description and image this time
1 Like #2
It may not work with o2 though
#3
:p
dontasciime
It may not work with o2 though

O you got to be kidding me is this the same on posted from 7dayshop ?

Why will it not maybe work
#4
The Ghostbuster
:p
dontasciime
It may not work with o2 though


O you got to be kidding me is this the same on posted from 7dayshop ?

Why will it not maybe work


Yes it is the same one as posted on 7day shop

I dont see why it wont work with O2, as far as I am aware they use ADSL and are not stupid like SKY with protecting their user name and password??

Edited By: tyke-eng on Jan 04, 2011 15:48
#5
no RFC 1483 bridged mode well last time it was on sale it did not have it. I will open mine in a minute to double check as I am only going by what someone told me theirs was like. Now where is it :lol


Edit After finding the posts I needed on here someone mentions no wireless bridge mode (my mistake/ memory). see my post below which has info on RFC 1483 when i opened and tried mine to see if it had bridged mode


Edited By: dontasciime on Jan 04, 2011 16:48: typo
#6
tyke-eng
The Ghostbuster
:p
dontasciime
It may not work with o2 though


O you got to be kidding me is this the same on posted from 7dayshop ?

Why will it not maybe work


Yes it is the same one as posted on 7day shop

I dont see why it wont work with O2, as far as I am aware they use ADSL and are not stupid like SKY with protecting their user name and password??


They actually use ADSL 2+ but whatever, Belkin gear is often quirky when it comes to connecting :-(

However, some retailers are selling this specifically FOR O2, so might be worth trying
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22F5D7634uk4-H%22+AND+%22O2%22+OR+%22Bethere%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a



Edited By: nihcaj on Jan 04, 2011 16:14
#7
well after finding mine and opening mine has dynamic 1483 bridged mode but that is still no guarantee you ill be assigned a new IP based on your mac address from o2. My friends belkin (not same model) just kept trying to renew ip and taking 4 - 20 hours to do it each time instead of the few minutes to 30 minutes o2 say

Edited By: dontasciime on Jan 04, 2011 16:37
#8
last time it was on sale .... it had a different image and description but is the same modem/router and what play sent out to customers see if anyone that bought one got it working with o2 mine is a v2000

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/belkin-f5d7634-wireless-g-adsl-2-mo/806572/#post9895605


edit.... last post mentions they could not get o2 to work, that does not mean it won't work as that user may have had a faulty unit/ not set it up correctly/ had some other issue /

Edited By: dontasciime on Jan 04, 2011 16:48: c
1 Like #9
Good price but my experience with using Belkin is that the throughput speed is a lot less than it should be. Might be fine as a backup device.
#10
G won't be fast enough to keep up with 10mb+ broadband though. There will be quite a few G speed bargains around as they're stopping making them soon.
#11
I have this. I don't use it anymore as it's so slow. I was getting <1mbs download speed with my laptop right next to it and the range is shocking.

I use it as backup router as it although it's ****, it still allows internet access if my main one is having problems.

Basically, I don't recommend it for anything.
#12
My BT router's in the living room. Could I connect that to this Belkin one, which I'll put in the bedroom, via Cat5 cable ? Then plug my laptop & internet radio in it ? (wifi's a nightmare in our house, the internal walls are too thick).

Is that do-able do u think ?
#13
it is if you switch off nat / switch off modem
#14
dontasciime
it is if you switch off nat / switch off modem


No NAT has nothing to do with it. Since you don't wish to translate LAN IP's to WAN IP's. You aren't going to be using WAN. You are going to be using the LAN port on the router as since it's an ADSL modem router you can't get it wrong, as many do with a cable router and use its WAN port. Don't need to switch off NAT or try and disable internal modem. You are bypassing the modem because you're using the routers LAN port/s and not its RJ11 WAN port which you can't use with another router anyway.

Set the Belkin router IP to same subnet as the BT router outside it's DHCP range (modify BT router DHCP range if necessary) and disable DHCP, that's all you need to do.

Example :

1. Set BT router to start DHCP IP range from 192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.253 (or a smaller range). BT Homehub IP is 192.168.1.254

2. Set Belkin to 192.168.1.1 and disable DHCP on the Belkin.

NB : Some routers such as Buffalo allow you to apply settings but you still need to save and reboot the unit, but because you've applied the settings the interface is not available for you to go back in and 'save and reboot' since the IP you used to access the interface has changed, so you need to setup a static IP on your PC to gain access to the router so that you can save and reboot the settings. Poor paragraph I'll admit, I hope you get the gist of what I'm saying.




Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 18:21: .
#15
if the other what they say is a router but is indeed a modem/router they need to switch off nat/modem on belkin

Edited By: dontasciime on Jan 04, 2011 18:08
#16
Thanks so much for your advice, guys. Ordered !

Cheers, OP.
#17
dontasciime
if the other what they say is a router but is indeed a modem/router they need to switch off nat/modem on belkin


Nope they don't. I've just explained it. You don't switch off the modem since you're not using WAN! Unless you know why you'd be trying to connect an RJ11 port (Belkin) to an RJ45 port? (BT Homehub). Answer you wouldn't obviously. NAT will provide the translation for the LAN IPs to WAN, but you're not using WAN. So you don't need to disable it. Perhaps you'd prefer to read it from someone else to confirm it for you >

http://www.home-network-help.com/wireless-router-as-access-point.html

"There are only 2 configurations you need to do: LAN and wireless settings". I've said how to do the LAN and so does that guide, the wireless is dead easy to setup too.




Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 18:35: .
#18
Hey dudeys, don't fall out !
My Bro's sent me a text saying it will work, he'll set it up when it arrives, he's the man with the Cat 5 !
#19
zappster1966
Hey dudeys, don't fall out !
My Bro's sent me a text saying it will work, he'll set it up when it arrives, he's the man with the Cat 5 !


We're not :) It's a simple process once you understand it.

Another guide >

http://vpncasestudy.com/download/usefuldoc/how_to_access_point.pdf
#20
2 levels of nat might be no good for them if they own an xbox / ps3 or 2 xbox360's or ps3's better to turn off NAT (let it be a switch that alters nothing) and let UPNP and DHCP from the original modem/router deal with openinhg ports setting auto rules via Upnp multi port setup passed per ip(upnp trick). no modem is needed. enter no isp settings in the modem section just enter the gateway ip of the homehub in lan settings on the belkin and also use the belkin wireless ssid for upstairs devices etc



Edited By: dontasciime on Jan 04, 2011 18:50: a
1 Like #21
dontasciime
2 levels of nat might be no good for them if they own an xbox / ps3 or 2 xbox360's or ps3's better to turn off NAT (let it be a switch that alters nothing) and let UPNP and DHCP from the original modem/router deal with openinhg ports setting auto rules via Upnp multi port setup passed per ip(upnp trick). no modem is needed. enter no isp settings in the modem section just enter the gateway ip of the homehub in lan settings on the belkin and also use the belkin wireless ssid for upstairs devices etc




Logically they won't be entering any ISP settings in to the Belkin as it's simply an access point off the main router's subnet and they must know the main router is providing the Internet access. Plus the modem is completely bypassed as you won't be using WAN (RJ11) and thus NAT on the secondary router. NAT is the way multiple devices can share a single external IP address, the main router is doing NAT, the second router is functioning as an access point, it can't use NAT because it's not acting as an Internet gateway, the main router is doing that.

The guides I provided will suffice for what he wants to do. No need to complicate the matter.


Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 19:24: .
#22
Got the cable version as a spare the other day. Using as a spare AP for wireless in the garden and not bad tbh. Best thing about belkin is the lifetime warranty IMO, had a 7year old router which went bust a few week ago and I got a free wireless n one.
Happy days :D
#23
money monster
G won't be fast enough to keep up with 10mb+ broadband though. There will be quite a few G speed bargains around as they're stopping making them soon.


With all due respect I have an old Belkin Wireless G router F5D72304 and I have 20mb broadband and I get full 20 meg constant download speed. It has 2 PC's, 2 Laptops, a Media Centre, Various phones and I also setup customers PCs from it and I have only ever had to reset it twice over 5 years.

For some reason people always slate Belkin, a lot of time without knowing what they are talking about.

I fix and install PC's for a living and I have so much trouble with other makes of router and find Belkin to be one of the best. If you know what you are doing then you should have no trouble setting up Belkin products.

I even switched to a brand new Netgear Rangemax router as it was supposed to have 6 internal antennas and far superior wireless range but it was exactly the same as my old 5 year old Belkin.

Sometimes newest isn't always best.
#24
Mutha
money monster
G won't be fast enough to keep up with 10mb+ broadband though. There will be quite a few G speed bargains around as they're stopping making them soon.


With all due respect I have an old Belkin Wireless G router F5D72304 and I have 20mb broadband and I get full 20 meg constant download speed. It has 2 PC's, 2 Laptops, a Media Centre, Various phones and I also setup customers PCs from it and I have only ever had to reset it twice over 5 years.

For some reason people always slate Belkin, a lot of time without knowing what they are talking about.

I fix and install PC's for a living and I have so much trouble with other makes of router and find Belkin to be one of the best. If you know what you are doing then you should have no trouble setting up Belkin products.

I even switched to a brand new Netgear Rangemax router as it was supposed to have 6 internal antennas and far superior wireless range but it was exactly the same as my old 5 year old Belkin.

Sometimes newest isn't always best.


A few years ago I'd have problems with certain Belkin routers where 'wireless isolation' was enabled by default, easy to fix, just disable it. This drastically slows down wireless speed, and stops wireless clients from seeing each other. I've never liked Belkin or Linksys to be fair. I thought I'd try a Linksys WAG120N for a client last week as it was a good price at the time. The GUI is still as crap as ever and the wireless range is absolutely hopeless, no matter which channel settings are employed. the router flips out when you change wireless settings and save. To make it work properly you have to save then hard reboot the router. I've got on better with Draytek Vigor , Billion and Netgear. Most of home router brands are just ok or poor. I hate Linksys the most followed by Belkin :) The Netgear DG834G has been a great home router for years, the range isn't great though, but it can take some custom firmwares. It's now been replaced by a heap of crap the DGN1000.

If you want to see proper routers have a look here (ignore the Linksys crap though) >

http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/index.php?sku=ADSL&cPath=220_221&osCsid=dafc0de48f5de9aee2e45615f2b872dd



Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 19:44: .
#25
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix
1 Like #26
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix


Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..

G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops
#27
Any idea if this can be used as a bridge??
#28
tyke-eng
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix


Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..

G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops


Wrong. You're confused about the G speed, that's the wireless LAN speed. You should be looking at the modem speed which is ASDL2+ rated or 24Mb max. This is a common mistake whereby users confuse LAN speed with WAN speed. With a cable router WAN speed is provided by an external cable modem. With an ADSL modem router you look at the internal modem spec. LAN speed is a minimum of 100Mb wired and most modern routers it's 54Mb wireless. Yes this has an telephone line port (RJ11) so has an inbuilt router and will work on ADSL ISPs.

Here's a simplified breakdown (max speeds) :

WAN (Internet) speed : 24Mb
Wired LAN speed : 100Mb
Wireless LAN speed 54Mb

The Internet speed is not capable of exceeding 24Mb (less with overhead) with this hardware. To shift data about between computers regardless of the Internet then it's 100Mb wired and 54Mb wireless minus overhead.


Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 21:15: .
#29
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1097287027.png
Will it be able service my modem
#30
fishmaster
tyke-eng
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix


Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..

G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops


Wrong. You're confused about the G speed, that's LAN speed. You should be looking at the modem speed which is ASDL2+ rated or 24Mb max. This is a common mistake whereby users confuse LAN speed with WAN speed. With a cable router WAN speed is provided by an external cable modem. With an ADSL modem router you look at the internal modem spec. LAN speed is a minimum of 100Mb wired and most modern routers it's 54Mb wireless. Yes this has an telephone line port (RJ11) so has an inbuilt router and will work on ADSL ISPs.


So You havent explained why you thing I am wrong. Or course Wireless Speed is diiferent to to LAN speed, this device has a 10/100 Switch (LAN Speed) The wireless speed of G is 54mBit...Yes ADSL2 is 24Mbit...so explain further please
#31
7iain7
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1097287027.png
Will it be able service my modem


This is an ADSL modem, you need a wireless router connected to the LAN port of your Modem.

Please could you tell me how you get this speed??? It must be the fastest in britain!

Edited By: tyke-eng on Jan 04, 2011 21:17
#32
atanum141
Any idea if this can be used as a bridge??


Manual here please trawl through it http://en-uk-support.belkin.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/790/kw/F5D7634
#33
o2 supply a router free dont they? or have i got it all wrong!
#34
rimkag
o2 supply a router free dont they? or have i got it all wrong!

I think you need to ask them. I suppose it depends on which package you go for. Usually at a bare minimum they supply you with a modem, but not sure if they provide a wireless modem. So if you want to connect Wifi devices you would need to buy such as this product
#35
fishmaster
tyke-eng
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix


Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..

G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops


Wrong. You're confused about the G speed, that's the wireless LAN speed. You should be looking at the modem speed which is ASDL2+ rated or 24Mb max. This is a common mistake whereby users confuse LAN speed with WAN speed. With a cable router WAN speed is provided by an external cable modem. With an ADSL modem router you look at the internal modem spec. LAN speed is a minimum of 100Mb wired and most modern routers it's 54Mb wireless. Yes this has an telephone line port (RJ11) so has an inbuilt router and will work on ADSL ISPs.

Here's a simplified breakdown (max speeds) :

WAN (Internet) speed : 24Mb
Wired LAN speed : 100Mb
Wireless LAN speed 54Mb

The Internet speed is not capable of exceeding 24Mb (less with overhead) with this hardware. To shift data about between computers regardless of the Internet then it's 100Mb wired and 54Mb wireless minus overhead.



SO why am I wrong?
#36
tyke-eng
fishmaster
tyke-eng
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...

And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?

Thanks

maxmix


Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..

G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops


Wrong. You're confused about the G speed, that's the wireless LAN speed. You should be looking at the modem speed which is ASDL2+ rated or 24Mb max. This is a common mistake whereby users confuse LAN speed with WAN speed. With a cable router WAN speed is provided by an external cable modem. With an ADSL modem router you look at the internal modem spec. LAN speed is a minimum of 100Mb wired and most modern routers it's 54Mb wireless. Yes this has an telephone line port (RJ11) so has an inbuilt router and will work on ADSL ISPs.

Here's a simplified breakdown (max speeds) :

WAN (Internet) speed : 24Mb
Wired LAN speed : 100Mb
Wireless LAN speed 54Mb

The Internet speed is not capable of exceeding 24Mb (less with overhead) with this hardware. To shift data about between computers regardless of the Internet then it's 100Mb wired and 54Mb wireless minus overhead.



SO why am I wrong?



50Mbit has nothing to do with this router, and you have linked LAN speed to WAN speed in that very sentence. 54MB Wireless has absolutely nothing to do with the WAN speed and since this router isn't capable of 50Mb then your statement isn't relevant. Basically even if you knew what you meant it was confusing. I have explained it and if you don't like my explanation well that's up to you. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say, the way you wrote it was an open invitation to misunderstand it.

You said :

"G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet."

That sentence strongly implies that this router is future proof for 50Mb connections, it isn't as it can only do 24Mb max minus overhead. If you didn't mean that then don't write it as such. It also links WAN speed with LAN speed even if you didn't mean it so.

It's very simple :

WAN speed for Internet

LAN speed for shifting data between PCs and also connection to WAN. LAN speed generally has a higher bandwidth capability than WAN speed.

Edited By: fishmaster on Jan 04, 2011 21:37: .
#37
FishMaster

I was merely stating that the fastest broadband currently is 50Mbit (if available) thus spending the extra money on the N type Wifi devices is pointless....unless you want to transfer files internally in your home of course.

As regards you saying my statement was confusing, dont you think yours was? If it were clear I would not have asked you twice to explain
#38
tyke-eng
FishMaster

I was merely stating that the fastest broadband currently is 50Mbit (if available) thus spending the extra money on the N type Wifi devices is pointless....unless you want to transfer files internally in your home of course.

As regards you saying my statement was confusing, dont you think yours was? If it were clear I would not have asked you twice to explain


Well it would have helped if you stated that but you didn't until now. I definitely think your statement was confusing. Anyway I'll call a stalemate as people are doubtless sick of me debating this ad naseum on this thread already.
#39
fishmaster
tyke-eng
fishmaster
tyke-eng
maxmix
So..... After reading all the gobildygook above.... This one OK for a BT line ? ie Talk Talk etc...And this is a modem router.... so nothing else required ? am I right ?Thanksmaxmix
Yes, its perfect for BT or Talk Talk etc..G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet. It makes it an ideal time to buy because of all the "I want Faster" people makes G affordable. Spending the extra 20 quid only gets you extra Range if you already have N adaptors in your Laptops
Wrong. You're confused about the G speed, that's the wireless LAN speed. You should be looking at the modem speed which is ASDL2+ rated or 24Mb max. This is a common mistake whereby users confuse LAN speed with WAN speed. With a cable router WAN speed is provided by an external cable modem. With an ADSL modem router you look at the internal modem spec. LAN speed is a minimum of 100Mb wired and most modern routers it's 54Mb wireless. Yes this has an telephone line port (RJ11) so has an inbuilt router and will work on ADSL ISPs.Here's a simplified breakdown (max speeds) :WAN (Internet) speed : 24MbWired LAN speed : 100MbWireless LAN speed 54MbThe Internet speed is not capable of exceeding 24Mb (less with overhead) with this hardware. To shift data about between computers regardless of the Internet then it's 100Mb wired and 54Mb wireless minus overhead.
SO why am I wrong?
50Mbit has nothing to do with this router, and you have linked LAN speed to WAN speed in that very sentence. 54MB Wireless has absolutely nothing to do with the WAN speed and since this router isn't capable of 50Mb then your statement isn't relevant. Basically even if you knew what you meant it was confusing. I have explained it and if you don't like my explanation well that's up to you. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say, the way you wrote it was an open invitation to misunderstand it.You said : "G Speed is rated at 54Mbit, fastest broadband is currently 50MBit so good for a few years yet."That sentence strongly implies that this router is future proof for 50Mb connections, it isn't as it can only do 24Mb max minus overhead. If you didn't mean that then don't write it as such. It also links WAN speed with LAN speed even if you didn't mean it so.

BUT...wireless G (as with all current wireless CSMA - Carrier Sense Multiple Access networks) provides generally speaking only around 50% goodput (i.e. actual data). The rest is taken up by significant overhead to do with the technologies used to avoid data collision.

As such, you will only get a theoretical maximum data throughput of 27Mb. You can, even in the best case, knock another 10-15% off this - leaving below 25Mb.

Therefore, if you do have a high speed internet connection (anything above around 20Mb), you may start to find that the wireless LAN becomes the bottleneck, as opposed to the WAN link itself.

The person who originally posted and stating 10Mb is way out, and probably was thinking about something very different, but certainly you CAN due to higher DSL2+ speeds begin to reach a limit where the WLAN speed will mean that it "cant keep up" with the WAN itself.

Of course, the poorer your connection (meaning lower connection speed) will result in this theoretical issue becoming more and more of a practical one.
#40
As a point of note, this is also why with current technologies, a 100Mb wired ethernet connection is still better than your (theoretical) 200Mb N WLAN - the CDMA technology used in wired Ethernet adds only around 10% overhead IIRC. Also, CSMA will result in higher latency even in an equal speed/goodput setting.

Speed isnt everything ;)

Edited By: MrShed on Jan 04, 2011 21:45

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