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Latest Draft-N wireless network standard router with MIMO technology for increased range and faster trasfer rates

Belkin F5D8231 N1 Wireless Cable Router with MIMO technology
Add a high speed 300MB wireless network to your house or office
MIMO Technology - three antenna for increased range and speed
Ideal for gaming, everyday use, file transfer, multiple VOIP phone calls etc

F5D8231FR4 or F5D8231GR4
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#1
Price includes £4.60 postage. 2% Quidco available.

The connections.........

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/449763.jpg

Very good price. Heat and Rep.

:pirate: CJ :pirate:
#2
Be carefull if your think this is a good deal & go to purchase this is a Router for cable & not a Modem Router for BT lines! The amount of people I've heard of purchasing a router when they needed a modem router so make sure its what you need..In saying that its a good price for a N1 router.
#3
Thanks, ordered.
#4
ordered, thanks, spot on
#5
Not really a Belkin wireless fan, but giving the benefit of the doubt; it's a good deal.
#6
sweet, need a new one.
#7
Useless piece of **** imo! Am on my 3rd replacement now, and the damn things work for a couple of months then **** out on you - wouldn't recomend to my worst enemy!
#8
Ordered - Great find thanks
#9
Ive had 2 different belkin routers. They both have problems of some sort.
Still you cant really fault the design.
#10
[email protected]
Useless piece of **** imo! Am on my 3rd replacement now, and the damn things work for a couple of months then **** out on you - wouldn't recomend to my worst enemy!


agree belkin products are utter rubbish even with their lifetime warranty ,its more hassle than its worth claiming and yes you will need to claim sooner or later
#11
had a belkin router for 2 years never had a problem and lifetime warranty
#12
Can't find any other info about other bands. Anyone know if this is backwards compat with G? As I'm the only one with N capabilities in my house.

Cheers!
#13
i bought the pre n model that looks the same as this over 2 years ago.Still works faultlessly.

netgear ...mm, thats another story. constant drop out and reboots
#14
My Belkin Pre N looks like this draft N and has worked flawlessly, although I have flashed it so it now thinks its a Linksys as they use the same internals totally.

Not sure how many Belkin routers are rebadged Linksys, but mine now is functioning flawlessly as a WRT54GX with fantastic coverage, and no dropout, however I am not sure about this router....but buildwise looks the same as the mimo pre N I have, and thats built great.
#15
Don't forget 2% quidco
#16
Slick Tyre
Be carefull if your think this is a good deal & go to purchase this is a Router for cable & not a Modem Router for BT lines! The amount of people I've heard of purchasing a router when they needed a modem router so make sure its what you need..In saying that its a good price for a N1 router.


Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you use your existing adsl modem as the connection and as long as it has ethernet out to connect to the Router than it should all work fine?

kind of using it as a gateway/access point.....The modem access the internet the router will act as a dhcp server and assign IP addresses and it should work that way....?
#17
amancalledchip
i bought the pre n model that looks the same as this over 2 years ago.Still works faultlessly.

spose its either luck of the draw, or inexperience


Posted at the same time, yeah the pre n is fantastic, I got it for £35 clearance at Comet with a PCMCIA wireless card.....great bargain, and has even better software when flashed to become a Linksys SRX :thumbsup:
#18
newmann
Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you use your existing adsl modem as the connection and as long as it has ethernet out to connect to the Router than it should all work fine?

kind of using it as a gateway/access point.....The modem access the internet the router will act as a dhcp server and assign IP addresses and it should work that way....?

Usually, no - because your existing ADSL Modem is actually a Router itself (if it has an Ethernet port). Plugging in the Belkin would NAT your NAT, causing all sorts of problems for various applications.

To enable use as a standalone ADSL modem, you need to disable all NAT functionality, and run it in "bridge-mode" - passing the external WAN (Internet) IP address through to the LAN port that you've connected the Belkin to.
In practice, very few ADSL Routers can do this - though some can, and it can be made to work well !
#19
Nom
Usually, no - because your existing ADSL Modem is actually a Router itself (if it has an Ethernet port). Plugging in the Belkin would NAT your NAT, causing all sorts of problems for various applications.

To enable use as a standalone ADSL modem, you need to disable all NAT functionality, and run it in "bridge-mode" - passing the external WAN (Internet) IP address through to the LAN port that you've connected the Belkin to.
In practice, very few ADSL Routers can do this - though some can, and it can be made to work well !


Actually, it is possible to do this without setting the ADSL router in bridge mode. For best results you need to do the following (Beware - Geek Alert!):

1) Set a static IP on the cable router's WAN port (or reserve an address in DHCP on the ADSL router for it)
2) On the ADSL router, configure the DMZ address to be the one you've set for the cable router

By the way, make sure that the ADSL router's "LAN" IP address range is different to your main LAN's range. For example, if your main LAN runs on 192.168.1.x, set your ADSL router to run at 192.168.0.x, for example.

Doing this ensures that the ADSL router acts as dumbly as possible - it passes all incoming traffic to the cable router. Admittedly, it's not as dumb as if it were running in bridge mode (where the ADSL router just acts like a glorified ADSL modem), but if the ADSL router has a half-decent amount of power then this is perfectly good enough.

I've got a similar set up with my Sky ADSL router and a Linksys WRT54GL running the OpenWRT firmware. Mind you, if this Belkin really is a Linksys under the hood I might be tempted to purchase one...
#20
I currently use a buffallo cable routher, had it for about 6 years lol, recently it has started to slow down whilst downloading, I disconnect/reconnect and it speeds back up.

hopefully this will solve my problem, if not it goes on the bay!
#21
cicobuff
My Belkin Pre N looks like this draft N and has worked flawlessly, although I have flashed it so it now thinks its a Linksys as they use the same internals totally.

Not sure how many Belkin routers are rebadged Linksys, but mine now is functioning flawlessly as a WRT54GX with fantastic coverage, and no dropout, however I am not sure about this router....but buildwise looks the same as the mimo pre N I have, and thats built great.


How did you get a Belkin to work like a WRT54GX mate?
#22
big b0y
How did you get a Belkin to work like a WRT54GX mate?


http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13874867

It is the same internals, just ensure you have the right revision.
#23
Pokey;3809153
Not really a Belkin wireless fan, but giving the benefit of the doubt; it's a good deal.

yeh same here the quality of their stuff is awful and their support really is the pits too...only Acer and Western Digital support is worse
#24
[email protected];3810588
Useless piece of **** imo! Am on my 3rd replacement now, and the damn things work for a couple of months then **** out on you - wouldn't recomend to my worst enemy!

for home networks best stuff is

Dlink excellent/had 3 routers never failed/no probs just works

Netgear - have a switch and homeplug ok so far for 3 months

everything else including belkin and linksys (part of Cisco but nowhere near th quality you would expect) the free **** you get from isp's - avoid
#25
Does anyone know if this will work with xbox 360 mce ?
#26
Thanks ordered!
#27
cicobuff
Posted at the same time, yeah the pre n is fantastic, I got it for £35 clearance at Comet with a PCMCIA wireless card.....great bargain, and has even better software when flashed to become a Linksys SRX :thumbsup:



good deal, i paid £99 for the same thing! Still worth it tho at that price.

what revision is yours , and what firmware did you d/load. does it make it a wpa2 router now?
ive just replaced it with a linksys router that has wpa2, but id love my old one back.
#28
Can anyone give me any advise on this ....

I currently have broadband through virgin media (cable) and my current router is a dlink 802.11g/2.4ghz which works fine. I think it is a 54mps data transfer rate.
Will I see a vast improvement on my internet speed for surfing the web and going online with a ps3 if i were to buy this router to replace my dlink?
Does the internet speed not relate to the service you subscribe to as well ... i think i am on the 'm' broaadband service which i think is around 4mb/s (at a guess)

any help would be much appreciated !! ;)
banned#29
that's an excellent deal, i've got the same router, and I paid about £80... and I was chuffed at that because elsewhere it was on for about £100.
Works really well and gives good range.
banned#30
roy-yoda
that's an excellent deal, i've got the same router, and I paid about £80... and I was chuffed at that because elsewhere it was on for about £100.
Works really well and gives good range.

(at the time)
#31
rooney10
Can anyone give me any advise on this ....

I currently have broadband through virgin media (cable) and my current router is a dlink 802.11g/2.4ghz which works fine. I think it is a 54mps data transfer rate.
Will I see a vast improvement on my internet speed for surfing the web and going online with a ps3 if i were to buy this router to replace my dlink?
Does the internet speed not relate to the service you subscribe to as well ... i think i am on the 'm' broaadband service which i think is around 4mb/s (at a guess)

any help would be much appreciated !! ;)


You might see an improvement on the speed if you have the connecting device (ps3 laptop etc) far away from the router. If its in the next room or in the same room there wont be any improvements on internet browsing speeds. You will probably see improvements if you copy files from one comp to another.
#32
rooney10
Can anyone give me any advise on this ....

I currently have broadband through virgin media (cable) and my current router is a dlink 802.11g/2.4ghz which works fine. I think it is a 54mps data transfer rate.
Will I see a vast improvement on my internet speed for surfing the web and going online with a ps3 if i were to buy this router to replace my dlink?
Does the internet speed not relate to the service you subscribe to as well ... i think i am on the 'm' broaadband service which i think is around 4mb/s (at a guess)

any help would be much appreciated !! ;)


You won't notice any difference in Internet speed at all. Your Internet connection (at 4bmps) is much slower than both Wireless-G (54mbps) and Wireless-N (300mbps). The only real bonus you'll get is a bit more range on the wireless.

Really, higher speed wireless is only useful for people that want to communicate with other things on their local network (i.e.: in your own house). For example, if you have a wireless laptop and you want to transfer files from and to a networked hard drive.


EDIT: Deathtrap3000, good point on the wireless distance!
#33
Thanks for the advise guys , really helpful and best of all you have saved me wasting £34.59 on something that isnt needed !!

Cheers ;)
#34
Just be aware that you may have problems connecting from genuine Macs to these if you have the newer N wifi card inside. Seems to be a driver problem, which causes dropouts and difficulties in retaining connections for more than a couple of minutes. The problem does not seem to exist on hackintoshes or other operating systems. Amazon.com and co.uk are full of ranty comments from disappointed buyers.

I would recommend Netgear's N Router for compatibility, but having experience two of those commit suicide in less than two years, I would advise looking elsewhere

Otherwise great price, as these are still selling for a lot more.
#35
Is this N router much better the a G in terms of range / signal strength?

I live in a very old house with extremely thick walls (arppox 6cm thick), and although I can get a signal on my G router - its very weak through the wall. Will this N router significantly improve the signal as I would like to stream media across the whole house, and unless this has far better range - it wont be much of an upgrade!

Thanks
#36
Can anyone recommend a USB/PCI adapter to go with this that'll work in Vista? Thanks muchly, H&R added for deal and rep for anyone with good recommendations.
1 Like #37
publicnme
Can anyone recommend a USB/PCI adapter to go with this that'll work in Vista? Thanks muchly, H&R added for deal and rep for anyone with good recommendations.



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#40
Shouldn't it be Mb rather than MB?

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