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The Boiler scrappage scheme has been launched, giving the possibility of £400 cashback when changing a G-rated gas boiler for a modern boiler.

In addition, british gas are said to be offering to match the £400 with an extra £400 cash back.

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#1
British Gas are much more than £400 more expensive than the next best - a bit of a con in reality.

Ignore BG tricks and you can get a good deal on this.
#2
Agreed. Ignore the BG offer
#3
might have to look into this out boiler is older than me i think and thats saying something :p
#4
guv
Nooooooo. I just changed our Boiler 2 months ago!


+1 :x
might have to have a chat with my mate who installed it, i wonder if he registered it yet? :whistling:
#5
My God, another Government Scheme set up by New Labour to get money into their own pockets. First Warmfront and now this.

I can guarantee 100%* that if you don't get involved in any one of those schemes set up by the Government, you will end up with a better net price for a heating installation (and keep control over quality and workmanship). I've seen it over and over again where ppl have been ripped off by the Warmfront scheme. Most would have been financially better off to make their own arrangements with their heating systems.

*The only exception is where the receipient is on Benefit and the Local Authority pays an additional Grant. You still pay too much in total costs, but at least you are not paying it yourself.
#6
Your old Boiler has to have a G rating to qualify.British Gas charge a good £2k more than most local gas fitters for the same job,avoid them.
#7
Excellent post... ...my boiler is definately G rated (...permanent pilot light) so it seems like a good time to get a new one! Any opinions on which ones to go for...I've heard Worcester/Bosch are about the best?!:)
#8
Pointless scheme, because every major installer will charge you £400 more than he would otherwise charge.

Designed entirely to try and keep Labour MPs out of the Job Centre in May. Won't work fortunately.

Same with the Warmfront scheme - total con.

Agree with comments about British Gas - biggest con men on the planet (same league as double glazing salesmen). Their engineers are paid to sell you overpriced services, rather than to be engineers.
#9
...but you are encouraged to get at least 3 quotes from your chosen installers before you even apply for the £400, so how can it be a rip-off?

...by the way, I'll just chip in with my damning of BG, even their own employees say they're a rip-off!!
#10
Krinkle
Excellent post... ...my boiler is definately G rated (...permanent pilot light) so it seems like a good time to get a new one! Any opinions on which ones to go for...I've heard Worcester/Bosch are about the best?!:)


I've been very pleased with my Vaillant, though it annoys me that even professionals who should know what they're talking about always pronounce it "valiant" :roll:
[Travel Expert]#11
Does anyone know roughly how much a A rated boiler/installation would cost, e.g. less the grant how much you would have to pay?
#12
rachelandgromit
Does anyone know roughly how much a A rated boiler/installation would cost, e.g. less the grant how much you would have to pay?


It suggests that 2-3k is the going rate.
1 Like #13
ilikewatch
I've been very pleased with my Vaillant, though it annoys me that even professionals who should know what they're talking about always pronounce it "valiant" :roll:


Same here; got a Vaillant Ecotec Plus 831 from http://www.vhsdirect.co.uk (back when VHS and Vaillant were adding an extra year's warranty) and had a local CORGI fit it. It was actually sent by courier from the local Plumb Center.

Apparently, the price I got as a consumer was about £100 less than he got as trade from his usual supplier!

Worcester/Bosch were also on my shortlist, but I went for the Vaillant because they use stainless steel heat exchangers which are least prone to corrosion.
#14
Heated - see what I did there!?
1 Like #15
So you scrap a perfectly useable boiler with a cast iron - probably British made - heat exchanger with a total life expectancy of 25 years. For a new - albeit more efficent - boiler with a pressed tin (exageration I know) heat exchanger with a life expectancy of perhaps 8 years and a capital cost of 1K+. This appears about as long term efficient as buying a Toyota Prius! The figures used in the advert on TV appear to infere that a new boiler is 90% efficient and an older boiler is 55% effecient so for every £100 I spend on gas I should be saving£35 if true this would be a huge saving to me of £175/annum for a capital cost - without interest of approx
£125/annum + servicing costs - should the boiler last 8 years.
I await the onslaught from vested interest posters.
#16
note that this is only in england not northern ireland, wales or scotland..........
#17
Pipcola;7433439
So you scrap a perfectly useable boiler with a cast iron - probably British made - heat exchanger with a total life expectancy of 25 years. For a new - albeit more efficent - boiler with a pressed tin (exageration I know) heat exchanger with a life expectancy of perhaps 8 years and a capital cost of 1K+. This appears about as long term efficient as buying a Toyota Prius! The figures used in the advert on TV appear to infere that a new boiler is 90% efficient and an older boiler is 55% effecient so for every £100 I spend on gas I should be saving£35 if true this would be a huge saving to me of £175/annum for a capital cost - without interest of approx
£125/annum + servicing costs - should the boiler last 8 years.
I await the onslaught from vested interest posters.

I thought similar, the BBC said you pay £2,500 for a new boiler, get £400 back then save £200 per year. So net cost over 10 years is £100. :?

Now the only thing is the cost of gas going up year on year, but the £200 per year saving incorporated some of that. But if it helps someone what the hell.
#18
COLD, the real cost is in the man power,
#19
Pipcola
So you scrap a perfectly useable boiler with a cast iron - probably British made - heat exchanger with a total life expectancy of 25 years. For a new - albeit more efficent - boiler with a pressed tin (exageration I know) heat exchanger with a life expectancy of perhaps 8 years and a capital cost of 1K+. This appears about as long term efficient as buying a Toyota Prius! The figures used in the advert on TV appear to infere that a new boiler is 90% efficient and an older boiler is 55% effecient so for every £100 I spend on gas I should be saving£35 if true this would be a huge saving to me of £175/annum for a capital cost - without interest of approx
£125/annum + servicing costs - should the boiler last 8 years.
I await the onslaught from vested interest posters.


Don't quite understand your calculation but agree with the first part of your post with regard to older boilers.
#20
ITV news just reported at the current rate of energy usage during this arctic weather we could be left with no gas, so probably best not to invest in a new boiler just yet:p So voting cold Brrrrrrrrr
#21
i've always found discountedheating to have the best prices for boilers etc

[url]www.discountedheating.co.uk[/url]

hope it helps

ps i bet whichever A rated boiler you go with it will break down within 5 years :w00t:
#22
adeo;7433642
ITV news just reported at the current rate of energy usage during this arctic weather we could be left with no gas, so probably best not to invest in a new boiler just yet:p So voting cold Brrrrrrrrr


this may be one of the reasons why new homes in a couple of years will not be connected to mains gas
#23
barijohn
I thought similar, the BBC said you pay £2,500 for a new boiler, get £400 back then save £200 per year. So net cost over 10 years is £100. :?

Now the only thing is the cost of gas going up year on year, but the £200 per year saving incorporated some of that. But if it helps someone what the hell.


I had thought about this too, mine is actually a D rated so 78% efficient according to the Energy website, I worked out roughly £100 per year saving if I bought a new one so around 25 years before I reap any benefit......hmmmmm let me think about that one for a minute!!!!
#24
I have an 11 year old Ariston Combi boiler and need to move it into our new extention so thought the £400 voucher would ease the pain. Contacted the energysavingtrust who told me my boiler wasn't covered - even though it has permanent pilot light - Does anyone no different?r
#25
I had a gas engineer in to service our G rated boiler a month ago. I mentioned the £400 government scheme and he said it wasn't worth replacing a G rated boiler at present as the cost wouldn't justify the savings even after the £400.

I've used this guy for years and he's honest and up front and considering he would be the one to benefit from me installing a new boiler I'd take the advice at face value.
#26
I have an 11 year old Ariston Combi boiler and need to move it into our new extention so thought the £400 voucher would ease the pain. Contacted the energysavingtrust who told me my boiler wasn't covered - even though it has permanent pilot light - Does anyone no different?
#27
Will anyone check if your boiler is actually G rated? As i need a new boiler!
#28
cfdave
Will anyone check if your boiler is actually G rated? As i need a new boiler!


Yes, you have to prove it is one of the ones shown as G rated when you submit your claim, also you can quickly check on the trust website, you dont need to ring them, just type in the model, brand etc and it tells you straight away if you are covered by the scheme
#29
davester2k
I had a gas engineer in to service our G rated boiler a month ago. I mentioned the £400 government scheme and he said it wasn't worth replacing a G rated boiler at present as the cost wouldn't justify the savings even after the £400.

I've used this guy for years and he's honest and up front and considering he would be the one to benefit from me installing a new boiler I'd take the advice at face value.


I've been told this too, a very valid point, although you do have to considder that the average service engineer's bread and butter jobs are quick repairs and services on old boilers, good cash jobs!

on the savings alone of a new boiler over old (reliable one) you may not save much/anything but for me, the thoughts of having decent hot water pressure from a combi and getting rid of all those space hogging tanks and cylinders is going to be too much to resist.
#30
pet2000
Don't quite understand your calculation but agree with the first part of your post with regard to older boilers.


A very rough and ready calculation - but from subsequent postings could be way out.
If boiler 90% efficient 10% of gas purchased is wasted
If old boiler is 55% efficient 45% of gas purchased is wasted
I spend approx £500/annum on gas therefore waste 35% more = £175/annum
Capital cost of boiler on first posting £1000/life expectancy = £125/annum although this could be as much as £2000/life expectancy = £250/annum if boiler lasted 10 years it would be £200/annum still not - IMO - a good buy.

There are many variables that could be included but the bottom line will invariably be the same IMO

I have in my garage a spare - last of the line - cast iron boiler.
#31
dealmonkey
...the thoughts of having decent hot water pressure from a combi and getting rid of all those space hogging tanks and cylinders is going to be too much to resist.


That's what I thought too. But now, having my combi boiler, I wished I had my old tank system back.

1. The myths of instant hot water is just not true. You will waste more water (and pay more if on a meter) because it takes ages for the hot water to arrive at the tap. It's more pressure but more waste.

2. A combimation boiler is not just larger but has more pipe work around it, so the total space needed is more than for a tank boiler. And what's the worst is the noise level. Combination boilers are very noise and run all the time (day and night), not just when they are heating water. Mine wakes me up at night.

3. It's too early for me to comment on savings because I had mine only since August last year. But I have certainly used more Gas than I used last year in the same period, and this was before the cold wheather. has started.
#32
withabix
Pointless scheme, because every major installer will charge you £400 more than he would otherwise charge.

Designed entirely to try and keep Labour MPs out of the Job Centre in May. Won't work fortunately.

Same with the Warmfront scheme - total con.

Agree with comments about British Gas - biggest con men on the planet (same league as double glazing salesmen). Their engineers are paid to sell you overpriced services, rather than to be engineers.


I think that if you shop around for quotes this probably won't happen. There are alot of small businesses out there, that want the work, so will keep prices competitive.
My hubby is a gas engineer, he charges (depending on the boiler) about £2200 for a boiler fit. I know for him, he would keep his prices as low as he could, to try to get the work in.
#33
dealmonkey;7433879
I

on the savings alone of a new boiler over old (reliable one) you may not save much/anything but for me, the thoughts of having decent hot water pressure from a combi and getting rid of all those space hogging tanks and cylinders is going to be too much to resist.


this is only true if you have one bathroom and a small house

if you have two bathroom or more and a large house (4 beds) you will need something like a thermal store
#34
What amazes me is people talk quite easily about gas fitters charging over £2000 to fit a new boiler.
How do they justify this kind of charge,, a breakdown of boiler cost and labour would be appreciated.
plumbers and gas fitters are making a fortune these days.I am told by 2 plumbers that they average £1000 per week.
What would be the average cost of a new boiler (not retail)
#35
Pipcola
So you scrap a perfectly useable boiler with a cast iron - probably British made - heat exchanger with a total life expectancy of 25 years. For a new - albeit more efficent - boiler with a pressed tin (exageration I know) heat exchanger with a life expectancy of perhaps 8 years and a capital cost of 1K+. This appears about as long term efficient as buying a Toyota Prius! The figures used in the advert on TV appear to infere that a new boiler is 90% efficient and an older boiler is 55% effecient so for every £100 I spend on gas I should be saving£35 if true this would be a huge saving to me of £175/annum for a capital cost - without interest of approx
£125/annum + servicing costs - should the boiler last 8 years.
I await the onslaught from vested interest posters.


Exactly what I thought too. I have been thinking about changing our (very old) boiler too, but the calculation just doesn't make sense as it will takes a long time for me to reap my cost of the new boiler back. Same with the P-reg Mercedes car given to me by my dad, 15 years and he's only done 40k miles, rather than forking out and pay expensive interests for a flashy new car, I've got nothing to pay except for the maintenance. :thumbsup:

Rep added for great minds think alike :D.
#36
Whatever anyone decides to do, avoid BG.

We had a service agreement with them for 15 years and every year the cost went up as the cover went down.

We called them in because the pilot light was burning orange and unbelievably their two engineers said that it wasn't a problem and left after 10 minutes. We found a private gas fitter who was appalled because the boiler burning like that was dangerous.

He has serviced the boiler every year since and will be fitting a new heating system for us this year.

Warmfront is a farce and this new grant system will be too.
#37
Krinkle
I've heard Worcester/Bosch are about the best?!:)


From the research I did, Vaillant and Worcester/Bosch were both recommended by gas fitters I spoke to.

In a Which boiler survey, both were equally rated by customers as satisfied, but Vaillant had the edge over Worcester in reliability (needing less call outs over the first 5 years). However this may be down to other factors such as the type of boilers installed or quality of fitting rather than inherant reliability.

Vaillant are better designed for service engineers so are in theory easier to fit, and carry out repairs to.

Both have similar warranty options, with the condenser being guaranteed for 10 years, and other parts for 2 years, often extended for free to 3-5 years if you get it installed by an approved fitter.

Both are likely to have continual good parts availability.

I would suggest speaking to whoever you want to fit/service it and find out which they are most comfortable working with.

HTH - Rufus.
#38
pet2000
That's what I thought too. But now, having my combi boiler, I wished I had my old tank system back.

1. The myths of instant hot water is just not true. You will waste more water (and pay more if on a meter) because it takes ages for the hot water to arrive at the tap. It's more pressure but more waste.

2. A combimation boiler is not just larger but has more pipe work around it, so the total space needed is more than for a tank boiler. And what's the worst is the noise level. Combination boilers are very noise and run all the time (day and night), not just when they are heating water. Mine wakes me up at night.

3. It's too early for me to comment on savings because I had mine only since August last year. But I have certainly used more Gas than I used last year in the same period, and this was before the cold wheather. has started.


I have to agree with all the above points. Ive had a 98% efficient condensing boiler for the past 5 years and to be honest I dont think I have made any savings over my old boiler which was rock solid and required minimal maintenance.

The condensing boiler keeps breaking down and it the past couple of years has had over £500 in parts without even considering labour! Lucky my wife has an additions plus account.

If were thinking longterm i dont think our bills are gonna go down as the fat cats at the energy companies will continue to profit by escalating prices despite us using less gas.

A word of warning dont even think of buying a Ravenheat boiler. Stick to Vailant or Worcestor/Bosch or even a Baxi.
#39
I got very excited when I saw this on the news this morning. Had a quick look on the official website to register. My boiler is about 18years old and my gas bills are through the roof!
The site has a clicky to check if your boiler qualifies. It has a constant pilot light, doesn't qualify:x


Ah well, as people have already posted, the saving will probably be swallowed up by inflated prices anyway. This scheme was brought in after petitioning from plumbers to boost the industry.
Not as simple as it is being portrayed on the telly:whistling:
#40
Pipcola
I have in my garage a spare - last of the line - cast iron boiler.


Great planning!!

Our boiler is over 25 yrs old and still going strong and the fitter who comes every year to service it told us it will carry on working for years. The only drawback will be finding spare parts.

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