Bosch PSR 18 Cordless 18 Volt Drill/Driver, 2 x NiCD Batteries @ Amazon £50 - HotUKDeals
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Seems to be the cheapest I can find it, I had been watching on camelcamelcamel.
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#1
You got the email just now also.
#2
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

Edited By: rogparki on Jul 23, 2014 23:39
1 Like #3
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

Lithium have the advantage for charge density, and low self dishcarge, but Nicd batteries should have a lot longer useful life expectancy.

Lithium batteries lose capacity as they age, no matter how little you use them (they would keep better if stored in a fridge). If you look after a NiCd it can last for many years, and longer even than NiMH as I recall. I had a 12V Nicd black and decker last over 10 years with lots of use.

That said, the NiCd battery in a 24V Bosch we owned lasted only about a year (also the motor magnet shattered not long after buying a better quality replacement battery), although a 9.6V bosch lasted much better.



Edited By: melted on Jul 24, 2014 00:21
1 Like #5
I bought one of these and with quite a bit of home use, the batteries were knackered within a year, and now hold very little charge at all. NiCd's really are a thing of the past, that's why they are cheap. Spend a little more and go for an Li model is my advise.
1 Like #6
Batteries on these are awful. good price but avoid
#7
This drill is has only one gear unfortunately, this means it's speed range is limited to 0-700rpm which limits it's use as a drill.
banned#8
Great deal, Heat added
1 Like #9
NiCd. Seriously?
#10
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.
Having two batteries for a drill is super-useful. I'm not weighing in on Li vs NiCD but, whatever route, get two (or more) batteries!
2 Likes #11
The recent makita 18v Li for £87 in b&q is a much better deal. 2 batteries, charger and a soft case. 2 gear motor, hammer action and pretty light for the punch it has. Been using around our new house, with the correct bits will happily go through block walls, or take out small awkward screws.
#12
Salters
The recent makita 18v Li for £87 in b&q is a much better deal. 2 batteries, charger and a soft case. 2 gear motor, hammer action and pretty light for the punch it has. Been using around our new house, with the correct bits will happily go through block walls, or take out small awkward screws.

Is this offer still on?
#13
nero212
Salters
The recent makita 18v Li for £87 in b&q is a much better deal. 2 batteries, charger and a soft case. 2 gear motor, hammer action and pretty light for the punch it has. Been using around our new house, with the correct bits will happily go through block walls, or take out small awkward screws.

Is this offer still on?

It's on this weekend

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/makita-18v-lithium-ion-combi-drill-with-2-batteries-87-00-b-q-weekend-1958728
#15
thats expired
#16
barneydog
nero212
Salters
The recent makita 18v Li for £87 in b&q is a much better deal. 2 batteries, charger and a soft case. 2 gear motor, hammer action and pretty light for the punch it has. Been using around our new house, with the correct bits will happily go through block walls, or take out small awkward screws.

Is this offer still on?

It's on this weekend

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/makita-18v-lithium-ion-combi-drill-with-2-batteries-87-00-b-q-weekend-1958728

Will have to get there early to before the tradesmen have them all lol
#17
melted
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.
Lithium have the advantage for charge density, and low self dishcarge, but Nicd batteries should have a lot longer useful life expectancy.

Lithium batteries lose capacity as they age, no matter how little you use them (they would keep better if stored in a fridge). If you look after a NiCd it can last for many years, and longer even than NiMH as I recall. I had a 12V Nicd black and decker last over 10 years with lots of use.

That said, the NiCd battery in a 24V Bosch we owned lasted only about a year (also the motor magnet shattered not long after buying a better quality replacement battery), although a 9.6V bosch lasted much better.

http://www.tobidornot.com/wp-photo/upload/bosch-psr-18-cordless-18-volt-drill-driver.jpg

I think the lithium battery can support higher current, thus giving higher torque to the electric motor.
#18
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

If you think that's such a good idea post it up as a deal and see what happens.

This is a good deal for a DIYer.
#19
iceman85
melted
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

Lithium have the advantage for charge density, and low self dishcarge, but Nicd batteries should have a lot longer useful life expectancy.

Lithium batteries lose capacity as they age, no matter how little you use them (they would keep better if stored in a fridge). If you look after a NiCd it can last for many years, and longer even than NiMH as I recall. I had a 12V Nicd black and decker last over 10 years with lots of use.

That said, the NiCd battery in a 24V Bosch we owned lasted only about a year (also the motor magnet shattered not long after buying a better quality replacement battery), although a 9.6V bosch lasted much better.

http://www.tobidornot.com/wp-photo/upload/bosch-psr-18-cordless-18-volt-drill-driver.jpg


I think the lithium battery can support higher current, thus giving higher torque to the electric motor.


Yes, fair point, I believe you are right, and you can also charge Lithium much more quickly. NiMh is better than NiCd in those respects too, but to a much lesser extent.

I think Nicd is more robust than Lithium, the Nicd black and decker I owned got dropped a few times from a ladder during its life, and once I'd soldered and glued all the bits back together it worked fine, not sure a Lithium pack would take such abuse.

So it is a case of swings and roundabouts.

Edited By: melted on Jul 24, 2014 19:43
1 Like #20
Bleary123
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

If you think that's such a good idea post it up as a deal and see what happens.

This is a good deal for a DIYer.
Already been posted :)http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bosch-psb-18v-li-ion-2-gear-cordless-hammer-drill-homebase-54-99-1949750 . And your next comment ?

Edited By: rogparki on Jul 24, 2014 19:42
#21
rogparki
Bleary123
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

If you think that's such a good idea post it up as a deal and see what happens.

This is a good deal for a DIYer.
Already been posted :)http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bosch-psb-18v-li-ion-2-gear-cordless-hammer-drill-homebase-54-99-1949750 . And your next comment ?

That's 54 quid, not 82.
Your turn.
#22
Bleary123
rogparki
Bleary123
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

If you think that's such a good idea post it up as a deal and see what happens.

This is a good deal for a DIYer.
Already been posted :)http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bosch-psb-18v-li-ion-2-gear-cordless-hammer-drill-homebase-54-99-1949750 . And your next comment ?

That's 54 quid, not 82.
Your turn.
Exactly -which one would you Buy ?
#23
My previous Bosch NiCd drill was the only disappointing Bosch product I've ever had.
The batteries died much faster than on earlier Black & Decker models I owned

My current Bosch Li Ion batteries have already outlasted the previous NiCd model AND they hold a charge, so the Li Ion drill is always ready for use.

Still, at £50 it's almost cheap enough to overlook those deficiencies if you need a drill (I don't at the moment).

While we're on the subject, Li Ion batteries do much better in my cameras too.
#24
rogparki
Bleary123
rogparki
Bleary123
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.

If you think that's such a good idea post it up as a deal and see what happens.

This is a good deal for a DIYer.
Already been posted :)http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/bosch-psb-18v-li-ion-2-gear-cordless-hammer-drill-homebase-54-99-1949750 . And your next comment ?

That's 54 quid, not 82.
Your turn.
Exactly -which one would you Buy ?

Neither, Bosch aren't much cop for serious use.
#25
nero212
Batteries on these are awful. good price but avoid

Agreed, mine is about a year old and I get less than an hours' moderate use out of each battery. As rogparki said, go for the Bosch PSB 18 LI-2 Cordless. I've got a few of the Bosch Power For All range (hedge trimmer, sander, jigsaw) and they're excellent - plus the drill has got a hammer function.
#26
expire :(
#27
No8
nero212
Batteries on these are awful. good price but avoid

Agreed, mine is about a year old and I get less than an hours' moderate use out of each battery. As rogparki said, go for the Bosch PSB 18 LI-2 Cordless. I've got a few of the Bosch Power For All range (hedge trimmer, sander, jigsaw) and they're excellent - plus the drill has got a hammer function.
Same here mate. Love bosch tools, But not looking to spend much and need 2 batteries so might have to be the makita this time round
#28

Yep - i bought one in B&Q two weeks ago for £50

It works ok ... No complaints
#29
Poor poor batteries ... Avoid !
suspended#30
melted
rogparki
You really don't want NiCD Pay extra and get the 18V Li model (think it was £82) but with just the one battery.
Lithium have the advantage for charge density, and low self dishcarge, but Nicd batteries should have a lot longer useful life expectancy.

Lithium batteries lose capacity as they age, no matter how little you use them (they would keep better if stored in a fridge). If you look after a NiCd it can last for many years, and longer even than NiMH as I recall. I had a 12V Nicd black and decker last over 10 years with lots of use.

That said, the NiCd battery in a 24V Bosch we owned lasted only about a year (also the motor magnet shattered not long after buying a better quality replacement battery), although a 9.6V bosch lasted much better.


I have been using my Bosch 18 volt Blue core ni-cad, from Canada .. for the past 10 years , still going strong, I have also used the new 12 Volt Bosch lithium, after about 2 and a half years, needed new batteries, so that being said, I am still not convinced on these new lighter Lithiums.

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