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Mel Gibson directs and stars in this Academy Award-winning epic based on the life of legendary thirteenth century Scottish hero William Wallace. Returning to his homeland following the death of an heirless king, Wallace (Mel Gibson) finds the political landscape precarious. Edward the Longshanks, King of England (Patrick McGoohan), has captured Scotland's throne and threatens the freedom of all Scottish people, as tyrannical policies instituted by the English plague the Scots. Initially, Wallace is content to stand by the wayside, yearning for the simple life of building a home and raising a family. However, when the woman he loves (Catherine McCormack) suffers a cruel fate at the hands of English soldiers, Wallace takes a stand against the new rule. With his fierce patriotism and determination, he gathers an amateur but passionately rebellious army. Although this makeshift force may be outnumbered by the English troops, their desperation and love for their land surpass any military manoeuvres, as evidenced in the film's breathtaking battle sequences.
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#1
Great Film And Beautiful Soundtrack Cds Heat Added
#2
agree, great film - however for 5p less you can get this and Master & Commander from a good seller on playtrade
#3
Took a liberty with history though.
Very little of it was accurate.
2 Likes #4
PhilK
Took a liberty with history though.
Very little of it was accurate.

Yep, another hate the English film, but that seems ok these days,regardless of whether it's factual or not.
Never understood why being an English patriot seems to offend everyone but being a patriot from any other nation seems to be encouraged.......sorry rant over!



Edited By: cycleman on Mar 28, 2011 14:29
#5
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/braveheart-dvd-3-delivered-tesco-entertainment/898138

25p cheaper than this recent cold offering yet its gone hot. I guess it's now appealing to the scots on both content and price. :D
#6
I got this last week from Tesco in their bargain bins for £2
1 Like #7
This will go down well with the Tartan army, who by far, are worse than old firm fans, but hey, as Long as you wear a skirt and a stupid wig you can say and sing all you want and get away with it.

I blame the SNP.
#8
Agree about the historical inaccuracies but still a great film......FREEEDDOMMM!
#9
Zoom_Zoom230
This will go down well with the Tartan army, who by far, are worse than old firm fans, but hey, as Long as you wear a skirt and a stupid wig you can say and sing all you want and get away with it.

I blame the SNP.


Funny how only the 'old firm fans' think this... Or is that just a 'small minority' of old firm fans?
#10
cycleman
PhilK
Took a liberty with history though.
Very little of it was accurate.
Yep, another hate the English film, but that seems ok these days,regardless of whether it's factual or not.
Never understood why being an English patriot seems to offend everyone but being a patriot from any other nation seems to be encouraged.......sorry rant over!
Absolutely.
Double standards are out of control on this subject.
#11
A more balanced view of Braveheart (3.50 onwards):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQCNb4AuW4
3 Likes #12
It's Amazing that a drunken wife-beating racist, who is equally at home in both Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants, and continue to do so), should want to make films that represent the English (Gibson conveniently forgets that the British Redcoats in 'The Patriot' consisted of Scottish, Welsh and Irish soldiers) as all being upper-class twerps with no regard for anything other than their own self-indulgence.

He also conveniently forgets that the vast majority of border and lowland Scots are of Anglo-Saxon descent.

At the battle of Culloden the so called 'English' army was actually mostly Scottish Lowlanders, but also included a few Highlanders, a significant number of English, a battalion of Ulstermen and a small number of Hessians and Austrians.

Charles Stuart's Jacobite army consisted largely of Scottish Highlanders, as well as a number of Lowland Scots and a small detachment of Englishmen from Manchester. They were supported and supplied by the Kingdom of France, and French and Irish units loyal to France were part of the Jacobite army.

It suits those wanting to stir racial hatred, and those wanting to fuel romantic visions of the Celtic and Gaelic invaders of Britain, to target the English as the bringers of all that is bad in the British Isles, wheras the complete opposite is actually the case.

The English were victims of aristocratic Norman genocide, and many aspects of English culture were wiped from the face of the earth.

The fact that the English still survive at all in a land named after their race, and with their language uniting the earth, is totally astonishing when you look at our history and the battles we have endured, and are still enduring.

Teach your children, and yourself, about the English and how our country came to be. Ask your MP why English history is such a low priority in our schools. Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country that gives so much at the expense of the lives of so many of it's sons and daughters. Many immigrants of my association really want to be associated with the glories of England and of Britain, and are proud to be under the wing of such a nation.

Those that aren't, along with those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.

Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.
1 Like #13
Laughing Spam
It's Amazing that a drunken wife-beating racist, who is equally at home in both Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants, and continue to do so), should want to make films that represent the English (Gibson conveniently forgets that the British Redcoats in 'The Patriot' consisted of Scottish, Welsh and Irish soldiers) as all being upper-class twerps with no regard for anything other than their own self-indulgence.

He also conveniently forgets that the vast majority of border and lowland Scots are of Anglo-Saxon descent.

At the battle of Culloden the so called 'English' army was actually mostly Scottish Lowlanders, but also included a few Highlanders, a significant number of English, a battalion of Ulstermen and a small number of Hessians and Austrians.

Charles Stuart's Jacobite army consisted largely of Scottish Highlanders, as well as a number of Lowland Scots and a small detachment of Englishmen from Manchester. They were supported and supplied by the Kingdom of France, and French and Irish units loyal to France were part of the Jacobite army.

It suits those wanting to stir racial hatred, and those wanting to fuel romantic visions of the Celtic and Gaelic invaders of Britain, to target the English as the bringers of all that is bad in the British Isles, wheras the complete opposite is actually the case.

The English were victims of aristocratic Norman genocide, and many aspects of English culture were wiped from the face of the earth.

The fact that the English still survive at all in a land named after their race, and with their language uniting the earth, is totally astonishing when you look at our history and the battles we have endured, and are still enduring.

Teach your children, and yourself, about the English and how our country came to be. Ask your MP why English history is such a low priority in our schools. Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country that gives so much at the expense of the lives of so many of it's sons and daughters. Many immigrants of my association really want to be associated with the glories of England and of Britain, and are proud to be under the wing of such a nation.

Those that aren't, along with those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.

Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.

At last, thank you, we need a lot more of this.........
#14
Zoom_Zoom230
This will go down well with the Tartan army, who by far, are worse than old firm fans, but hey, as Long as you wear a skirt and a stupid wig you can say and sing all you want and get away with it.

I blame the SNP.


At least the SNP care for Scotland and it's people. That cannot be said for the Scottish branch of unionists (Lab/Con/Lib) they do what Westminster says and care little for Scotland and it's people. For my own perspective of Scottish news I read http://www.newsnetscotland.com
#15
Laughing Spam
...Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants...)
The English were victims ...
... Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country ... those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.
Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.

How does your rant make any sense given that your DNA probably proves you're actually decended from genocidal immigrants too
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm
#16
scorcher
Laughing Spam
...Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants...)
The English were victims ...
... Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country ... those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.
Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.
How does your rant make any sense given that your DNA probably proves you're actually decended from genocidal immigrants too
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm

I don't think anyone doubts that Anglo-Saxons were, in the main, from other shores. As to them being immigrants as you suggest then seeing as the earliest recorded use of the word is 1789 then it seems your attempt at a rant is somewhat flawed.

It is however comforting to see from your link that we're unlikely to be related to the welsh. :)
1 Like #17
scorcher
Laughing Spam
...Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants...)

The English were victims ...

... Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country ... those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.

Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.


How does your rant make any sense given that your DNA probably proves you're actually decended from genocidal immigrants too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm


Oh dear. An Englishman defends his own and suddenly it's 'ranting'.

Why do you fear us? Why do you envy us?

Can't you see that the hatred of you and your Celtic and Gaelic brethren for the English has become apparent at national and international levels? Your sportsmen and celebrities display it like sulky children looking for any chance to get one over on the English.

Your racism is of such intensity that it has distracted your nations to such a point that you now amount to and achieve nothing of any relevance. How weak and poor you must feel to allow this to happen.

Bearing in mind the fact that the English benevolently annexed and allowed your homeland to exist as an English principality (Wales is NOT a country) , rather than totally destroying it, I would've thought you'd be a bit more grateful. I affectionately view Wales as sort of our 'outhouse'. A kind of lean-to khazi, if you will.

That aside, I reconcile my position by accepting that the actions of our ancestors in feudal times during the days when countries as such did not exist are no longer acceptable two thousand years later.

The Druids engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice, but that would hardly go down too well at the local eisteddfod these days, would it?

Do you see? d:O)
#18
Laughing Spam
scorcher
Laughing Spam
...Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants...)

The English were victims ...

... Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country ... those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.

Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.


How does your rant make any sense given that your DNA probably proves you're actually decended from genocidal immigrants too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm


Oh dear. An Englishman defends his own and suddenly it's 'ranting'.

Why do you fear us? Why do you envy us?

Can't you see that the hatred of you and your Celtic and Gaelic brethren for the English has become apparent at national and international levels? Your sportsmen and celebrities display it like sulky children looking for any chance to get one over on the English.

Your racism is of such intensity that it has distracted your nations to such a point that you now amount to and achieve nothing of any relevance. How weak and poor you must feel to allow this to happen.

Bearing in mind the fact that the English benevolently annexed and allowed your homeland to exist as an English principality (Wales is NOT a country) , rather than totally destroying it, I would've thought you'd be a bit more grateful. I affectionately view Wales as sort of our 'outhouse'. A kind of lean-to khazi, if you will.

That aside, I reconcile my position by accepting that the actions of our ancestors in feudal times during the days when countries as such did not exist are no longer acceptable two thousand years later.

The Druids engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice, but that would hardly go down too well at the local eisteddfod these days, would it?

Do you see? d:O)

You're an articulate guy, you should stand for parliament.
#19
cycleman
Laughing Spam
scorcher
Laughing Spam
...Oz and the U.S. (two countries that demolished the lives and cultures of their indigenous inhabitants...)



The English were victims ...



... Teach the immigrants why they are so damned lucky to be in a country ... those trying to dismantle our society from within, really shouldn't be here.



Proud to be Anglo-Saxon? You bet I am.




How does your rant make any sense given that your DNA probably proves you're actually decended from genocidal immigrants too



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm




Oh dear. An Englishman defends his own and suddenly it's 'ranting'.



Why do you fear us? Why do you envy us?



Can't you see that the hatred of you and your Celtic and Gaelic brethren for the English has become apparent at national and international levels? Your sportsmen and celebrities display it like sulky children looking for any chance to get one over on the English.



Your racism is of such intensity that it has distracted your nations to such a point that you now amount to and achieve nothing of any relevance. How weak and poor you must feel to allow this to happen.



Bearing in mind the fact that the English benevolently annexed and allowed your homeland to exist as an English principality (Wales is NOT a country) , rather than totally destroying it, I would've thought you'd be a bit more grateful. I affectionately view Wales as sort of our 'outhouse'. A kind of lean-to khazi, if you will.



That aside, I reconcile my position by accepting that the actions of our ancestors in feudal times during the days when countries as such did not exist are no longer acceptable two thousand years later.



The Druids engaged in cannibalism and human sacrifice, but that would hardly go down too well at the local eisteddfod these days, would it?



Do you see? d:O)


You're an articulate guy, you should stand for parliament.



Thank you. Unfortunately, being English, I'm not allowed my own parliament.
#20
About time the English stuck up for yourself,I,m a proud Scot and thus want the English stuffed at football however you finally found your St Georges flag circa 96 and seem to now want your own parliament.Good.
I also vote SNP and want Scotland independent but you cant escape the fact that the two countries are connected by population mix,shared defence facilities and membership of the EU (if England dont leave)
An independent England,s danger is that it might treat the north of England as 2nd class citizens as in the 80,s.
#21
If that happens we'll declare a seperate kingdom, Northumbria, as all of the north of what is now England was known, from the north shores of the Humber across to the Mersey and up to Hadrian's wall, prior to unification with Mercia, East Anglia and the west, east and south Saxon kingdoms.

But thank for the heads up, though you'd be better keeping an eye on what goes on in Edinburgh and the more picturesque parts of Scotland. Where politicians have their noses in the trough, that's where you'll find corruption and treachery.

Long live Northumbria! Waes hael!
#22
.....and many of us don't fly the St.George's cross anymore.

I fly the white dragon flag of the English, under which the English fought prior to the Roman church imposed Christian saint's flag.

People who **** the flag of England (as opposed to the English flag) say 'St. George wasn't even English, he was some unknown geezer from the middle east etc.....'

Well, duh! St. George is the patron saint, allocated to Christian England by the Roman church, and his victory over a dragon is meant to be symbolic of Christianity's victory over the pagan English white dragon. Simple really.

Ancient Welsh folklore warned of the red dragon (Wales) being vanquished by the white dragon. Strange but true.
#23
Its only a film
#24
Patriotism - the last refuge of the scoundrel.
#25
gozomark
Patriotism - the last refuge of the scoundrel.

google - the last refuge of those wanting to offer someone elses thoughts because they have none of their own.


And even then usually the wrong ones!

Edited By: Tinhead on Mar 29, 2011 08:51
#26
oh, I have plenty of thoughts of my own, starting with all humans come from the same stock - why bring in artificial barriers like nationality, and for that matter, religion - how many have died for those pointless causes ? "Patriotism - the last refuge of the scoundrel." just happens to sum it up nicely. Not sure what google has to do with it, more about having a decent education
#27
History is history.......and should stay in the past where it belongs. We have come a long, long way from beheading the enemy days. Thankfully we are now a civilized Nation.

I couldn't care less if you are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish, you are human and we all deserve the same respect. :)
#28
Caz42
History is history.......and should stay in the past where it belongs. We have come a long, long way from beheading the enemy days. Thankfully we are now a civilized Nation.

I couldn't care less if you are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish, you are human and we all deserve the same respect. :)

'Those that forget the past are condemned to repeat it'.

Edited By: cycleman on Mar 29, 2011 12:18
#29
Caz42
.......We have come a long, long way from beheading the enemy days.


Tell that to the followers of Islam, and I don't just mean the Taliban or Al Qaeda. The modern Saudi Arabian nation loves lopping bits off of folk. And stoning adulterous women (i.e. they've been raped), all in a days work.


Caz42
.......I couldn't care less if you are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish, you are human and we all deserve the same respect.


Yes we do, and that's the problem. The English are not given the same respect or opportunities.

Irish, Scottish and Welsh nationalist parties are totally free to exercise their democratic rights in relation to free speech and marches. Even at the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland the Unionists were permitted to march near Nationalist areas, and vice versa.

The English Defence League are frequently banned from marching in England.

If they arrange a march it is immediately banned by the Home Secretary, and all they are permitted to do is gather in a pre-designated area.

They are then 'kettled' by the police while Unite Against Fascism and the Muslim Defence League (sic) hurl abuse and projectiles at them.

The reason for banning EDL marches is not because of how their supporters behave, but because of how counter-demonstrators will react. The government and police are pandering to the violence and anti-democratic actions of UAF and MDL criminals. Pathetic isn't it?

Then they wonder why the same criminals think they can behave how they like when they break away from the next 'peaceful demonstartion' that they attend, usually anti-capitalist type affairs, but they're not averse to smashing up a McDonald's or British Home Stores in the interests of protesting against school cuts.

The funny thing is that the UAF is happy to protest alongside the Muslim Defence League, while the world's most fascistic regimes in the Islamic middle east go about their dirty work unmolested by our brave UAF heroes.

If the UAF got their cowardly backsides out to Libya to support the Muslims fighting against their fascist rulers I might believe that they have a shred of credibility.

But fighting fascism isn't on their agenda. Bringing down the state is what these people are about. They are anarchists by any other name, and you will find them at any and all protests where they feel they can break away to cause damage and attack the police.
#30
cycleman
Caz42
History is history.......and should stay in the past where it belongs. We have come a long, long way from beheading the enemy days. Thankfully we are now a civilized Nation.

I couldn't care less if you are English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish, you are human and we all deserve the same respect. :)

'Those that forget the past are condemned to repeat it'.



I didn't say we should forget ....we should learn from it, and we (British) obviously have, as we no longer kill for land etc.
#31
Tell that to the followers of Islam, and I don't just mean the Taliban or Al Qaeda. The modern Saudi Arabian nation loves lopping bits off of folk. And stoning adulterous women (i.e. they've been raped), all in a days work.
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I am well aware of this as I have read several books on the subject and recent documentaries have appalled me. I don't know the answer to this, I wish I did.
#32
oh great - Mosley, then NF, then BNP, and now English Defence League
#33
gozomark
oh great - Mosley, then NF, then BNP, and now English Defence League


There must be another discussion ongoing more suited to your level of intelligence. A Teletubbies blog perhaps?
#34
Laughing Spam
If that happens we'll declare a seperate kingdom, Northumbria, as all of the north of what is now England was known, from the north shores of the Humber across to the Mersey and up to Hadrian's wall, prior to unification with Mercia, East Anglia and the west, east and south Saxon kingdoms.

But thank for the heads up, though you'd be better keeping an eye on what goes on in Edinburgh and the more picturesque parts of Scotland. Where politicians have their noses in the trough, that's where you'll find corruption and treachery.

Long live Northumbria! Waes hael!

I was thinking more of running the South from the North ;)

ps When are we getting Berwick back :)
#35
Berwick? Oh go on then. If you can pick it up and put it north of the border you can have it!
#36
Lovely wee place, has won the nicest public toilet awards every year for donkeys. They are spotless and have lovely big vases of flowers etc beside the sinks. You should go .....just to see the toilets lol :)
1 Like #37
They have toilets for donkeys in Berwick? Wow, that IS posh! oO
#38
I would take a guess that this thread will be removed soon by the 'mods' as any defence or promotion of England and its heritage seems to be deemed offensive.
Just my experience from previous threads.
#39
Laughing Spam
gozomark
oh great - Mosley, then NF, then BNP, and now English Defence League


There must be another discussion ongoing more suited to your level of intelligence. A Teletubbies blog perhaps?


EDL must hate the teletubbies - all those mixed hues living in harmony.

Are you saying there is no link between EDL and BNP ? I thought some of the senior people in the EDF appeared on the BNP membership list that was leaked.
#40
gozomark
Laughing Spam
gozomark
oh great - Mosley, then NF, then BNP, and now English Defence League

There must be another discussion ongoing more suited to your level of intelligence. A Teletubbies blog perhaps?
EDL must hate the teletubbies - all those mixed hues living in harmony.

Are you saying there is no link between EDL and BNP ? I thought some of the senior people in the EDF appeared on the BNP membership list that was leaked.

If we were all Teletubbies the world may be a different place, the undeniable reality is that there are massive cultural differences between different nations and religions, I think we can all bear witness to the total disaster of multiculturism.
I have had the privilege of travelling extensively over the years and have been amazed at the tolerance and hospitality of the English people.
The way Christianity, the foundation on which the western world was based, is constantly ridiculed and yet the mere criticism of any other religion is threatened with severe criminal penalties never ceases to amaze me.


Edited By: cycleman on Mar 29, 2011 19:35: edit

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