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TrailBreaker 26" Bike was £99.99 NOW £62.99 Delivered!

* Hi tensile steel dual suspension frame
* front suspension forks
* 18 speed Shimano gears with twist grip fast action gear controls
* 26" wheels with lightweight alloy rims
* V type brakes
* Sure grip mountain bike tyres
* Padded saddle
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#1
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British Eagle Trailbreaker
Pedals
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2 Likes #2
Its called a "TrailBreaker", because it will never make it off the trail in one piece.This is a street cruiser for kids.

IMHO, no one should buy a full suspension at this price point. If they cannot afford anything else, this will only be a bargain as long as the drivetrain holds out. A cheap unbranded groupset will render this heavy beast a nightmare a year or so down the road.

A front suspension bike such as the bottom of the range GT (Aggressor 2007 for £190) will prove better value in longevity and a bike that is more able to perform in different situations. Yes it is 3 times the price, but you will get more than 3 times the value out of it.

e.g. http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m1b1s196p1543
#3
It was inevitable that the usual boring crap criticising cheap bikes would be posted.
#4
indeed, IMHO if you get a year out of it at just over £1 a week then it can't be bad :thumbsup:

Jefft
It was inevitable that the usual boring crap criticising cheap bikes would be posted.
#5
Jefft
It was inevitable that the usual boring crap criticising cheap bikes would be posted.


If you have ever had the displeasure of stripping a similarly cheap pile of dodo down after a year of wear (which I hasten to add is even more boring), you will know that these things dont represent value for money at all.

All I'm trying to do is give the benefit of my experience. Or will I see you at this years Mountain Mayhem riding one of these, Jefft?
#6
jazid

All I'm trying to do is give the benefit of my experience.


Exactly, as an experienced bike rider you would buy a better one. Lots of people who do not have a great deal of experience, or interest, ride similar bikes to these and are very happy with them.

Good post rayman.
#7
Did British Eagle bikes not used to be one of the best bikes you could buy 10 -15 years ago ? What happened ?
#8
alictait
Did British Eagle bikes not used to be one of the best bikes you could buy 10 -15 years ago ? What happened ?


British Eagle (which was created by a former employee of Coventry Eagle) used to make good bikes (possibly not "the best" though). However they became a Falcon brand, then Falcon off-shored production of their bikes, and adapted the specs. to meet the price the market wanted.

They are AFAIK now just another brand name that is painted on cheap steel bikes.

Having ridden both good bikes and cheap heavy steel ones, the cheap bikes are bad enough to put you off cycling. IMHO for the same money you could probably find an older much higher second hand bike. There are loads of good bikes that go for negligable money second hand because they aren't a "mountain bike" shape.

YMMV - Rufus.
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Have to agree with jazid

Buy this, and expect to replace it every year.
Or basically, get the use out of it in the summer, and when you dig it out after winter for next summer, it will be rusted and seized beyond repair.

£60+ each year.
Buy a more expensive one ie the £190 GT and it will last longer than buying three or four of the crap ones.
And you will get a lot more pleasure out of it.
Try going up a steep hill with one of these hulks and see what i mean.

And yea, using this on a trail, and guaranteed the front suspension is going to go and the wheels are gonna buckle for starters.
Gripshift gears were the most idiotic thing invented imo, and not even remotely use-able on trails.
#10
Jefft
Exactly, as an experienced bike rider you would buy a better one. Lots of people who do not have a great deal of experience, or interest, ride similar bikes to these and are very happy with them.


Im afraid you missed my point, which was not what I would buy. It is more my recommendation of what I would advise someone to buy who wanted their first MTB bike (with some minimal scope beyond street riding).

I have several friends who have bought 2 for £99 bikes and they dont use them even for road riding because they are put off by the bike weight and maintenance (which one is unlikely to be competent at if they are after a bike like this) which means down the LBS for a service ( = more ££££). My experience tells me that owning a bike like this becomes a chore more often than a leisure activity.

Thankfully HaggisHunter summarised my thoughts more clearly than I did.:thumbsup:
#11
nah this bike is ok for people who just want some fun now and then riding a bike.


although serious bikers would expect to from 200+
#12
i had a british eagle once and the chain snapped countless times, was really nice to look at silver and gold but they arnt half cheap tack

ive had a cbr savage for nearly 2 years now which i picked up off ebay and i cant fault it! born to last
#13
I cannot agree with you saying it wont last more than a year i got my daughter something similar and it lasted her 5 years untill some one drove over it, not with her on it lucky, i now use it for spares,

also me and my wife got a his and hers bike about 12 years ago and they were cheap as chips and they are still going strong today,

i gave mine to my 14 year old son about a year ago and he does all sorts on it, you know the things kids do? its still looking good, only things i have to do is fix punchers and new tyres and straighten out the wheels when he buckles them.
#14
Em yea, most bikes 12 years ago and the likes werent full suspension.
If suspension at all.

To add the suspension, the makers cheap out on parts and get any cheap tat.
Its like "ooooooh shimano gears" but to be honest, unless its the mid to top range of the shimano models then shimano is crap.
And lightweight wheels on this is a joke when the frame is made of Steel, i didnt think they still made steel bikes.

They add on cheap suspension , and so means they have to use cheaper parts all over.

If you must buy a cheap bike like this, then buy a rigid or front suspension at most.
Full-sus doubles the weight and halves the quality in the components.
#15
Just to confirm, don't buy cheap bikes. I got one recently for £40 to replace my stolen bike while sorting insurance claim...
Now I will not be able to work for weeks. So will loose more! :-(

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#16
2 weeks ago I bought one of the £35 (Reduced from £70) bikes from tesco for my wife to keep up with our 4 year old.

Originally ordered it online with a £5 discount code but then picked it up instore (Tesco Online refunded the full amount including the £5 code so bike only actually cost £30).

I know that the bike has cheap components but it meets her needs at the moment. I hope she gets the bug then we can splash out on a "proper bike".

I have given the bike a whizz and although my bike is a better ride it is not 12 times better (although it cost 12 times more!).

At the end of the day it has cost about the same as 3 or 4 days hire of a bike so I think good value for money.
banned#17
I bought a cheap bike (£80) after a year and a half the frame started to snap in two the frame had a ten year warranty on it so they exchanged it for a brand new one. i expect that to go in a year although the warranty should have my ass
#18
I ve had the pleasure of fixing a lot of these cheap bikes - pain in the rear!! Mostly from friends and families who thought that good looking cheap bikes are great values. Usually the gear wont shift properly, and everything needs adjustment. I think people should just buy a used nice bike. -
#19
Proximoafter
a year and a half the frame started to snap in two the frame had a ten year warranty on it so they exchanged it ..


Erm you mean youll happily ride it knowing its likely to snap again? Ive seen a pair of carbon handlebars go on someone before and it wasnt pretty.
#20
Den
Just to confirm, don't buy cheap bikes. I got one recently for £40 to replace my stolen bike while sorting insurance claim...
Now I will not be able to work for weeks. So will loose more! :-(

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Oww that looks nasty,that reminds me when i was giving my doughter a lift on the crossbar about 5 years ago on my bike i was showing off and really going fast then all of a suden it felt like i hit a brick wall, (it was her foot got cought in the wheel) we were both flying through the air:oops: all i could think was trying not to land on top of her, i was 15 stone, so in mid air i twisted my body and landed on my right side first hitting my head then my shoulder i was knocked out for about 20 seconds, according to my wife who was following, I was concussed but no broken bones, only bent front wheel and me were damaged, doughter was fine thank God.
There are loads of other accidents I've had on this bike only because i was like a big kid and always showing off in front of my kids:lol:
like i said earlier my 14 year old has it and its still going strong, i remember were i got it from it was Aldis, maybe i got a good one.
I do see the point in warning people of cheap bikes as it can be very dangerous.
#21
bike was from tesco. breakes failed. it was 1 week after commuting to work.

Tomb
2 weeks ago I bought one of the £35 (Reduced from £70) bikes from tesco for my wife to keep up with our 4 year old.

Originally ordered it online with a £5 discount code but then picked it up instore (Tesco Online refunded the full amount including the £5 code so bike only actually cost £30).

I know that the bike has cheap components but it meets her needs at the moment. I hope she gets the bug then we can splash out on a "proper bike".

I have given the bike a whizz and although my bike is a better ride it is not 12 times better (although it cost 12 times more!).

At the end of the day it has cost about the same as 3 or 4 days hire of a bike so I think good value for money.
#22
Where is the link to the £190 GT bike?
1 Like #23
Lefty
Where is the link to the £190 GT bike?


Its in my first post in this topic. But it was only an example (not a best price).
#24
oh I see, thanks.
#25
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13837

Thats a GT Agressor, not sure of the year.
You get £10 off a £100 spend at that store, and the price includes delivery.

£160 delivered.
(not even sure if thats the best deal, thats just the first website i come across as iv bought off them before)
#26
Are those GT's suitable for actual mountain biking? (not that i intend to do that, just curious).

Also, is that the price mark someone should be looking at for a good bike? £160 or are there cheaper good bikes around? If so, link please. Possibly with disc brakes aswell (aswell as without)?
#27
My mate rides bikes in the £2000 bracket, but for my needs a £60 will do. Yes, they are too heavy, but I would rather nip to the shops on something cheap as chips and not have carry a heavy lock with me.
#28
That GT will be fine for general Mountain Biking.
Just dont expect to go doing any big jumps or drop-offs, thats what the expensive bikes are for lol.

Disc brakes, well they are pretty pointless on a cheap bike (GT imo being a cheap bike) as they are generally cable operated and give very slight difference to V-brakes in actual use.
Disc brakes should be hydraulic, thats how they started, then they got copied by the cheap companies to try and make their bikes look good, but in fact gave no extra performance since they used cable operated set-ups.
Even Shimano disc brakes are god awful, and at the cheap end of the market.
In this aspect you wont, or shouldnt, get a bike with disc brakes for this price bracket (sub £200 bracket) as decent disc systems will cost as much as this GT for one set, ie front set, and same price for a back set.

I have a bike in the garden hut, easily cost over £1000 but i didnt start with that.
I started with a Specialized Rockhopper, and did simple upgrades till i went all out and built an expensive one.
Specialized bikes were good, but think they have got a bit expensive as the cheapest Rockhopper is now £450, but the "Hardrock" is starting about £280 which is only slightly more than i paid originally for a similar spec.
The rockhopper outlived 3 of my friends bikes as his snapped a good few times lol.

A bike at about £2000 or over is a bit excessive imo, unless its used professionally or in competitions etc.
I say this, as even with the best equipment, some of it breaks, and the more expensive the component, the higher the upkeep of the bike.
Even with my expensive bike, i limited it to the Shimano LX occasionally XT groupset (for the parts i actually used shimano for, which wasnt that much tbh) as it was often the drivechain that i knackered, front/back derailleurs and cranks, i broke all the time and LX or XT were about £50 a replacement at least every few weeks rofl.
#29
Thanks for the detailed post. Aren't disc brakes supposed to be really good in wet conditions also (even cabled ones)? Are v-breaks good in wet conditions? I've never had a bike with v-brakes, my old bike had cantilever brakes which weren't very good in wet conditions.
#30
In my opinion a good set of cable V-Brakes will be as good as or most likely outperform a set of cable disc brakes.
On cheaper bikes, all the disc will do is save wear and tear on the wheel rim, which doesnt bother people anyway on these bikes as its mainly a cosmetic thing.
Discs are out of the mud, but they will still get mud and water etc on them, from splashing/rain etc.
V-brakes are at the top of the wheel anyway.
Also, while Hydraulic discs are imo very reliable, cable ones dont seem to be, requiring repair more and suffering the usual problems associated with cables, cables stretching/snapping and the likes.

Another thing is brake pads, the actual discs being smaller, they can heat up a looooooot more than rim brakes. this can have an effect on brake pads, and break pads on the hydraulic discs are like £5-10 a pair, which will only do one set of brakes.
You would need to check prices on maintenance parts.
I went down hill's (like proper hill's) using my hydraulic discs, and by the time i got to the bottom, i shot some water out my bike bottle over my discs and they just hissed and steamed.
Also fell off my bike once and got the disc imprint burned on my leg rofl.

Cantilever brakes arent very good, which is why they have been replaced by the V type brakes which work on the same principle but provide far more power.
If you look at trials riding, they still use (or used when i last seen it 2 years ago) V-Brakes, albeit Hydraulic V brakes. Saw some kids doing it the other day though and they still had cable V's.
In some aspects V-Brakes can give more control.

Cable discs are really just a fashion accessory.
A good set of V-Brakes will spank them in performance and value :thumbsup:
#31
Well, I bought the model called a tundro, it was ok at first, then the crank arm fell off, so i bought some heavy duty allen key bolts from ebay for like 2.99, and that was sorted, but it was happening again because the crank arm was catching it and losening itself, so i put a used set of asus 3 speed crank arms on PROBLEM SORTED, My saddle then cae loose and repeadteldy slipped off, so i put a used saddle on the bike PROBLEM SORTED, i was jumping at my local downhill track, and my wheel buckled very slightly from a 25 foot dop, so i just put another rim i found in my garage is. i have now owned the bike for nearly 7 months, i use it everyday for a 3.5 mile paperound, and i always use it at my local downhill track, and its proved too be abosulety fine, AND I BOUGHT IT FOR 59 QUID AT ASDA! =]
my point being is that if they sorted out the crank and saddle and maybe the rear wheel, this bike would be a gem, and who cares if the bike is heavy? its tough, and if you think youll jump higher, then learn how to pump, or instead of buying a 190 quid bike, spend 40 quid in getting those bits done, and youll have a good bike for under a hundred quid !!

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