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Renault Megane GT NAV 220, £8000 saving £16,543.00 @ Broadspeed

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Save a massive £8000 on the Renault Megane GT NAV 220 Sport Tourer with broadspeed. Manufacurers OTR price of £25,000, yours for a mere £16,543 (inc fees and VAT). Hatchbacks and Coupe GT220 mo…
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Whittick88
shame they're not what they used to be. had so much fun in my 172
Nice car. Always wanted a Renault 5 Turbo in my younger days. Could never quite afford one so had to make do with a tatty S-Reg (Mark-1) Ford Escort :(
shame they're not what they used to be. had so much fun in my 172
caffineking
M_z
Take out a loan today for the full amount you can have this all to yourself for about £300 a month. You know you want to!!
No, I really don't. £300 a month to own a heavily depreciated Renault in 5 years time? That doesn't sound hot to me.
Normally I'd agree with you, but 'RenaultSport' cars such as the GT220 (and its older brother the 275) don't depreciate half as much as Renaults' normal line up.
These cars rarely come up on the used market, and when they do, they command high prices. A two year old version of this (2014) is worth about 11k - about the same price as a Ford Focus ST-2 of the same age (Source - Glass's).

I'll admit I assumed its depreciation would be the same as any Renault, if its not, then it sounds more of a deal.
nopenopenope
M_z
Take out a loan today for the full amount you can have this all to yourself for about £300 a month. You know you want to!!
No, I really don't. £300 a month to own a heavily depreciated Renault in 5 years time? That doesn't sound hot to me.
In 3 years time it won't be worth a huge amount less than that price with average mileage.... I think this is a steal...
Are you just one of those people who just doesn't like french cars?

I dont have a problem with french cars beyond the fact that the depreciate heavily - I'd have one as a lease car or a used bargain.
At it's original RRP no thanks, but at this price it is great. Although did test drive one of these couple of years back (unsure if any changes since then) the torque steer was terrible and it really needed to have a slip diff. Found it actually wasn't as fast as what I was expecting it to be which was abit of a disappointment (again that was at the original full RRP). Interior was ok but not on par with other cars in this range (again at RRP price point!) Handling wise was pretty spot on and comparative to others at the price point. Wasn't that fussed about the exterior styling especially the big Renault badge (nothing against the brand just think the grill and badging could be nicer).
To sum up and stop babbling a steal at this price point and especially the sport tourer which if you look around at the competition in this price bracket would beat the rest hands down.
Just to compare also at this price point of a tourer you are looking at a Skoda Fabia Estate albeit only 1.2TFSI 110bhp with less spec and power. (Father has one)


Edited By: cecilmcroberts on May 11, 2016 12:38: adding Fabia
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Brand New Audi A7 Sportback 3.0 TDI Executive S-Tronic Auto, Save £12,783 off RRP of £46,415, £33,632.00 at Broadspeed

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Excellent saving for a popular Audi Model, the A7- 27.5% off at Broadspeed. New Facelift version with the updated LED DRL's, look smart if its the car you are after, and a lot cheaper than its riva…
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poopscoop

Time of month I see

Impossible. I'm menopausal.
willhay555

Funny that, because the A6 we've had since it was 12m old hasn't cost us a penny other than tyres and service, and it's a '56 plate.

The exception that proves the rule? You beat the odds, that's all. Your 'gain' is others' loss.
loquat1
willhay555
My A7 has been out of warranty and needs a mechatronic unit and clutch pack.
£2k which includes a 70% goodwill discount on parts from Audi.
Extend the warranty.
Or better still, avoid like the plague. Don't you ppl look at reliability tables anymore? Audi is one of the worst offenders. How are the mighty fallen.

Funny that, because the A6 we've had since it was 12m old hasn't cost us a penny other than tyres and service, and it's a '56 plate.
willhay555
My A7 has been out of warranty and needs a mechatronic unit and clutch pack.
£2k which includes a 70% goodwill discount on parts from Audi.
Extend the warranty.

Or better still, avoid like the plague. Don't you ppl look at reliability tables anymore? Audi is one of the worst offenders. How are the mighty fallen.
My A7 has been out of warranty and needs a mechatronic unit and clutch pack.

£2k which includes a 70% goodwill discount on parts from Audi.

Extend the warranty.
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New Ford Focus ST-3 TDCi Automatic, £7,000 off £27,895 RRP - £20,784.00 @ Broadspeed

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I've been keeping an eye on Focus prices, with an eye to buying one once my lease finishes. 25% off list price for the new automatic diesel is pretty good in my book, as the best price I've seen on a
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smugjojo
EazyDuz
smugjojo
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stuellis
Drove a paddle shift Mustang last year while travelling the US which I'm told is the same box as in this. It was dreadful, hated it, I kept telling it what gear I wanted and it would change 20 seconds later, getting it to engine brake in long downhills was impossible even in sport mode so ended up cooking the brakes. Checked the manual and there was no way of putting it into a proper manual gear selection. If this is the same and you enjoy controlling every element of your drive I would avoid.
However I'm giving heat as it's a good deal for this car
I had the same car in August last year and agree completely! On longer straight sections of road I had no problems but when changing gears through twists and turns it was always a few seconds behind me. I did get to grip with it in the end, but wouldn't buy a Ford paddle shift because of this experience.
Since when did anyone chage gear in a bend? Before it , yes, and hold it.
You must be new to driving...
I hope you are joking. If not, I doubt you have a real driving license.


​you do know winning a licence on gran turismo can't be used in real life right? :D
Looks like a lot of outlay for OLD BILL fodder to me.
I drove an r8 v10 spyder with manual dogleg box. Then i tried one eith an auto box. No comparision suto was way better.
mark_trev
simont_space
jfclfc
what's the point getting a car like that in automatic it would be a criminal
No other manufacturer of very fast cars would use automatics would they.http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/02/why-lamborghini-trashed-the-manual-transmission.html
I'll be honest, I have a 320bhp V8 coupled with a traditional automatic (i.e. torque converter) and there is so much slack between the gears due to the loss of power.
Automatic is great with a powerful engine that can make up for the slack, but with a less powerful engine...


​my audi s3s dual clutch autobox is great and fast and i can use the flappy playstation paddles if i want. I would defo not buy a car with a standard single clutch auto box. Most auto hate comments are from idiots who think all auto boxes ate the same slow single clutch boxes. Virtually all motorsport uses auto boxes. Usually semi sequential. Nuff said.
Monkeybumcheeks
greysquaill
Basically a modern day Ford Escort MK2...http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd149/streetfighter1216/Cars%20and%20bikes/4Carsandbikes_zpsbb782393.jpg
Try and get a decent one of those for 20k (_;)

The Escort had a very smooth, slick gear box with a silky upshift. I know, i had one.
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Brand New Audi TT Coupe TFSI 180 BHP Sport, Save £3640 off RRP of £27150 £23,511.00 at Broadspeed

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Good saving off a very popular Audi model so thought I would post, usually struggle to get discounts off the TT models at dealerships due to popularity. Very good reviews, and comes with the new 1…
krishman Avatar1y, 1w agoFound 1 year, 1 week ago56 Comments
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just get a vert
does anyone know which dealer drive the deal forward you onto, has anyone ordered one?
caddyroo
BigYoSpeck
It's a brave person who buys a new VAG car amidst all the emissions cheating going on.
I can't believe there is even an issue... No-one ever buys a diesel car due to its emissions figures only for more MPG. Now all of a sudden its a travesty to the world because the black smog that pours out of diesels is bad for the world... everyone knew that using their eyes in the first place but didn't want to get an equivalent petrol.

I don't think your average person cares beyond what they pay at the pump and road tax. The problem is if they don't meet regulations and have to be modified so they do at the expense of performance and economy it's not the car you thought you were purchasing and it will hurt resale value.

As well as the NOx which affected the diesels there's talk of CO2 from petrol and diesel also being cheated on. The thing is I don't know if it affects cars which are still on sale or not. Volkswagen having been that forthcoming on what is and isn't affected.
BigYoSpeck
It's a brave person who buys a new VAG car amidst all the emissions cheating going on.

I can't believe there is even an issue... No-one ever buys a diesel car due to its emissions figures only for more MPG. Now all of a sudden its a travesty to the world because the black smog that pours out of diesels is bad for the world... everyone knew that using their eyes in the first place but didn't want to get an equivalent petrol.

Edited By: caddyroo on Nov 22, 2015 21:15
MazingerZ
jalaldevil
They look so similar to an R8 which is why this makes the TT more appeasable now days.
Don't go there! TT is a woman's car, as is the Merc SLK. An R8 is a powerful car for the modern successful man:{ Even though I saw a Chinese woman peddling one in the City couple days ago, she was probably an Athlete.

Maybe she was just a successful woman?
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Brand New Jeep Renegade SUV 1.6 E-TorQ Sport for £12,606.00 at Broadspeed, saving of £4,689 off RRP of £17,295 (27% Saving!)

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After browsing broadspeed following the Lexus deal, came across this incredible price for a brand new Jeep Renegade small SUV. Comparable to a Mini Countryman or Skoda Yeti, a brand new model released…
krishman Avatar1y, 2w agoFound 1 year, 2 weeks ago52 Comments
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It kind of looks odd ...I somehow start thinking of if Skoda and Lada had a 4x4 kid -this would be it!
Maybe it looks better in the flesh + good price so thanks OP will benefit somebody on here.

Edited By: Si1 on Nov 16, 2015 17:22
this was the hire car I got after someone crashed into the back of me. they have a problem with the alarm which meant the car didn't start for over an hour one time. was glad to get rid
i_like_crisps
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i_like_crisps
Bargain
Maybe, just maybe, if you keep it forever. In the real world any reduction will be lost many times over on the residual because no one will want it unless you're giving it away! Still, Jeep (and a few others) rely on ignorance to stay in business.
I tend to keep cars for a while, not worth much when I trade them in!
You won't want to live with this for very long!
Besford
i_like_crisps
Bargain
Maybe, just maybe, if you keep it forever. In the real world any reduction will be lost many times over on the residual because no one will want it unless you're giving it away! Still, Jeep (and a few others) rely on ignorance to stay in business.

I tend to keep cars for a while, not worth much when I trade them in!
I actually like the look of this in certain colours. I have also sat in one and the build quality isn't as bad as some are making out. In my opinion they were just too expensive when they were first released for what they are, especially the high spec 4x4 versions.
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Brand New Lexus IS300H Sport Hybrid Auto 223 BHP for £24,495.00 at Broadspeed, Save £5500 off RRP!

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Found a cheap price for a new, high spec Lexus IS sport hybrid, combines a 2.5 litre petrol engine with a 141 BHP electric motor! Very good reviews for this car, and unlike some of its german equi…
krishman Avatar1y, 3w agoFound 1 year, 3 weeks ago139 Comments
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erk
They call Lexus "the Japanese Mercedes"
Not since the 90's.
ajgrahamdotcom
CVT gearbox would put me off. They're fine in smaller cars like a Mini but these should really be automatic dual clutch boxes for performance and smoothness.
You wont get smoother than a CVT
royals
a8smith
Supercharge_Me
a8smith
8.3 seconds to 60mph seems shockingly slow for a 2.5 litre petrol engine with a 141 BHP electric motor.
Who judges a car on the 0-60mph speed? Are you 13?
Actually, a lot of people. If they didn't then why would any slightly performance car exist?
But I wasn't judging the car, I was expressing my surprise at a car with a 2.5l petrol engine coupled to a 143bhp electric engine only doing 60mph in 8.3 seconds. The new Audi A4 with a 1.4l petrol engine does 60mph in 8.7 seconds and gets similar fuel economy, the 2.0l petrol does 60mph in 7.3 seconds and claims a combined 59mpg.
So what is the point of this configuration? It is neither sporty or frugal (by your own admission you only averaged 40mpg, which any modern petrol car matches or betters).
​agree. Even managed to better 40mpg in my Audi s3 2014
Really? That's amazing economy
If only it were plug in too
DAZZ2000
It's a nice motor and a great price so I'll give it heat.
However....as someone that wants their next car to be both reasonably nippy and environmentally friendly this car doesn't quite hit the mark.
To be fair though most hybrids don't, in my opinion. Many give you an electric range of about 25-30 miles and then you're onto the black stuff from hereon in. For the miles I'm doing that'd mean charging the battery twice a day. Not practical.
The other minor detail is its emissions rating is higher than ideal for a hybrid and means the BIK value isn't much more favourable than my Euro 6 engined Mazda 6. Roll on the day we can get an electric Tesla for sub £30k with a range of 300 miles :)
Still a nice looking motor this Lexus and it's heading in the right direction.


It's not a plug in hybrid , the motor works in conjunction with the 2.5 litre petrol engine which kicks in at circa 30mph . Recharges through engine overrun and braking etc .Granted it won't go far in EV mod in city traffic but if like most cities you struggle to average jogging pace it's not too bad . I agree most hybrids are still playing at it but in 5 to 10 years time with the new emission regs they will be as common as diesels are now
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Brand New BMW 335d Diesel M-SPORT XDrive 317 BHP Auto for £30,694.00 at Broadspeed, Save £9636 off RRP of £40330

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Brand new, top of the range BMW 335d M-sport Xdrive Auto diesel for almost 25% (10k) off list price at broadspeed. 4 wheel drive 317 BHP twin turbo diesel model with a range of metallic colours availa…
krishman Avatar1y, 1m agoFound 1 year, 1 month ago279 Comments
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Old thread but I just leased the touring version of this in Estoril blue. 0-62 in 4.7 seconds and get over 40mpg. It's crazy. Got it on 10k miles three payments down and then 23 payments over 24 months. 370 a month it's costing. A smidgeon over 4k a year for this beast will probably beat the depreciation on picking it up at 32-33 grand (the touring is a bit more expensive than this saloon).
Uridium
oddballjamie
axgod2
I assume there are no indicators on this?
Indicators are fitted, they can be operated by the big knob inside.

Think you'll find normal people drive BMW's now....Audi's are now the current car of choice for the 'no indicators' and magnetic front bumper brigade...


​wrong. Its nothing to do di with the make. I find vauxhall, ford and 4x4 drivers to be the most inconsiderate on the road
I just hired the 330 petrol version, M sport with auto box. Was an upgrade on a 320 diesel.

Deary me. Took me two nights to work out how the keyless thingy worked, the engine cuts out to save fuel when you stop at traffic; me no likey. Steering not too hot without sports mode engaged. Visibility not great for reversing but has a sensor. Rapid though! Nice and comfortable on the motorway and lots of gadgets.

I can't afford one but would buy if I could!
bengalknights
jamesslane
Just ordered this through my local dealer for a marginally better price than broadspeed. Worth printing out from broadspeed and taking to local dealer to match & haggle a bit more on optional extras.
IMO - a £40K standard car without heated seats and folding mirrors is a joke!!
Did you manage to get any options thrown in for your better price?

I spec'd the car quite highly but the base price was slightly better than that of broadspeed. Plus the extra's were discounted

Edited By: jamesslane on Nov 10, 2015 14:18: extras
jamesslane
Just ordered this through my local dealer for a marginally better price than broadspeed. Worth printing out from broadspeed and taking to local dealer to match & haggle a bit more on optional extras.
IMO - a £40K standard car without heated seats and folding mirrors is a joke!!

Did you manage to get any options thrown in for your better price?
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Audi A6 2.0 TDI - SE - Manual Saloon £7409 off list price - £24,886.00 @ broadspeed

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Audi have been giving good discounts recently. The Audi A6 is pretty much one of the best interiors. Although it's the bottom of the range it's still pretty well equipped (Sat Nav, Bluetooth, Cruis…
jc74 Avatar1y, 5m agoFound 1 year, 5 months ago95 Comments
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hcc27
QuidProQuo
barnehurst
Did everyone see the recent Watchdog programme, where Audi say you need to pour half a gallon of oil into their cars every few miles to keep them going ?
I had an Audi A4 where engine blew up after oil ran out. Cost £10,000 for a new engine - never an audi again ! And they still havent fixed it !!
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1Q2rXBpVsXVQ12hVFmxMBjP/audis-oil-guzzling-issues
I had an issue with oil consumption on the TFSI engine in a 2010 A4 although it was not quite as bad. It went through 1 litre of oil every 3000 miles, which as Audi pointed out to me during a service is within tolerance. Impossible to let the oil run out with the 2010 software (unless you choose to ignore it) as it has an electronic oil gauge display that alerts you when to refill and by exactly 1 litre.
I can also tell you that the 2013 auto model uses far less oil (as they state in the article). I'm averaging about 1 litre every 7,500 miles.
Have a look at this: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/572433/Disgruntled-motorist-protest-35k-Audi-engine-rebuild-problem

Looking at it this was fixed in manufacture after 2011? Isn't the 2.0tsfi the same engine used in many other cars eg. Golf gti, skoda vrs, scirocco, Audi a3 etc? Presumably they would have all also suffered the same problem?
wizz1234
I remember when the XC 90 came out you could make money on those for a while if bought one new and sold on straight away but that didn't last long

Yes, I think it lasted something like 6 months. People were even selling their places in the queue for a couple of thousand. I think the original Audi TT also was like that when it came out in the late 90's
jc74
oddballjamie

There's exceptions, buy something sought after an it will cost less to own then many family hatchbacks.
Porsche Macan anyone?
Or get something a bit more specialist. e.g. Porsche 911 GT3 RS, cost something like £130k new (and about 250k used a couple of years ago) and they are now fetching ~400-500k on the used market. Some selected high end sports cars have become pretty good investments/speculations in recent years of world financial instability...
With cars being exempt from capital gains tax (other wise could you imagine how much the treasury would lose if people could offset their losses), then the increase is all free of tax too.
Obviously like any speculation of this sort, the exact model, specimen, price and timing is key!
New:-http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs
Used:-http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/porsche-911-mk-997-4-0-gt3-rs-2dr/4381695
I remember when the XC 90 came out you could make money on those for a while if bought one new and sold on straight away but that didn't last long
oddballjamie

There's exceptions, buy something sought after an it will cost less to own then many family hatchbacks.
Porsche Macan anyone?

Or get something a bit more specialist. e.g. Porsche 911 GT3 RS, cost something like £130k new (and about 250k used a couple of years ago) and they are now fetching ~400-500k on the used market. Some selected high end sports cars have become pretty good investments/speculations in recent years of world financial instability...
With cars being exempt from capital gains tax (other wise could you imagine how much the treasury would lose if people could offset their losses), then the increase is all free of tax too.
Obviously like any speculation of this sort, the exact model, specimen, price and timing is key!

New:-
http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/911-gt3-rs

Used:-
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-gt3-997/porsche-911-mk-997-4-0-gt3-rs-2dr/4381695






Edited By: jc74 on Jun 30, 2015 07:47: typo
wizz1234
It's a fact of life that cars depreciate if your into nice cars and can afford them you are going to lose more money on them than someone who isn't into cars and just buys something that gets them around. At the end of the day we are all different and different things float our boats so I don't know why people come on here banging on about the obvious ie you are going to lose a load of money on a expensive car tell me something I don't know

There's exceptions, buy something sought after an it will cost less to own then many family hatchbacks.
Porsche Macan anyone?
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Audi S6 Saloon £11,512 off list price - £45,033.00 @ broadspeed

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Following on from the recent Jag XF deal, I thought I'd have a look around to see what nice fast yet practical cars could be gotten instead. Audi and BMW have been giving good discounts recently. A…
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The key thing here is if, like me, you need around 20,000 miles a year, the 6k per year lost, is less than the lease would have been on a 20,000 mile arrangement by some way, so its better to buy it, use it, service and maintain it meticulously, and keep the thing for many years, you would then have the best vaue from the car overall, and lets face it, even when an s6 gets to be 10 years old, if it has been maintained and kept looking tidy, it will still be a nice car, even with man miles on it.

Agreed in that scenario. And being a 450bhp v8, the engine will hardly be pushed to its limits on the UK roads so should still be a great runner after 10 years. Plus you'd have the enjoyment of driving a great sounding v8 engine for 10 years. Assuming you're ok with the fuel bills!
Though anyone too concerned about that should be considering a smaller engined diesel instead!
jc74
m5rcc
How much do you think you'd get for a three year old S6 with 60k miles?
Given that there a none between 3 and 5 years old for sale on Autotrader, and the audi website has just one 12 reg car with 60k miles selling for £30k, I'd say you'll probably get around £27k if you traded it in... Yes you'll drop 18k from new over 3 years, but that's still 11k less than if you'd walked into the showroom and paid full price.
It actually seems quite a rare car if you compare to the number of M3, M5 and M6's for sale...

The key thing here is if, like me, you need around 20,000 miles a year, the 6k per year lost, is less than the lease would have been on a 20,000 mile arrangement by some way, so its better to buy it, use it, service and maintain it meticulously, and keep the thing for many years, you would then have the best vaue from the car overall, and lets face it, even when an s6 gets to be 10 years old, if it has been maintained and kept looking tidy, it will still be a nice car, even with man miles on it.
m5rcc
How much do you think you'd get for a three year old S6 with 60k miles?

Given that there a none between 3 and 5 years old for sale on Autotrader, and the audi website has just one 12 reg car with 60k miles selling for £30k, I'd say you'll probably get around £27k if you traded it in... Yes you'll drop 18k from new over 3 years, but that's still 11k less than if you'd walked into the showroom and paid full price.
It actually seems quite a rare car if you compare to the number of M3, M5 and M6's for sale...


Edited By: jc74 on Jun 29, 2015 10:12
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m5rcc
jc74
m5rcc
You are missing the point about the Jag deal. This is £45k upfront!
Good point, but weren't people complaining about lease deals and saying how you should save and buy up-front instead of leasing? LOL
Only those who don't understand the concept of leasing would say that.
If an asset depreciates, lease it.
If it appreciates, buy it.
OK - Ill lease it, but if i pay more in excess mileage charges for 20k/year than depreciation would have cost - then will you pay the difference?
That statement is far too broad and doesn't fit every time.

How much do you think you'd get for a three year old S6 with 60k miles?
oddballjamie
You're on a roll today.

Bit like the OP
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Brand New BMW 3 Series 320d Sport £24,039.00 @ Broadspeed

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kevbhoy67
great deal but i'm not keen on bmw reliability, turbo and pump issues at 80-100k miles and they think this is ok for a 25-30k car. Sorry but Vw and Audi are a little more durable imo.
Great deal if your in the market.

I've had my fill of VW and Audi, they are all much of a muchness IMHO. It's largely the technology forced upon the manufacturers that is proving to be the root cause of issues - DPF & EGR are common across many vehicles. VNT Turbo's suffer in cars with EGR. We had to have a turbo replaced at just under 80k on a SEAT Leon 140 PD TDI.

I've just had over £5k of warranty work done on my VW T5 van. I sent an Audi back to them earlier this year due to a manufacturing fault affecting a huge number of cars but that is being kept quiet by Audi.

There's a two word answer to your woes. Japanese. Petrol.

It's an idea but no by bag unless we're talking silly money.

Youre coming from VAG products. How are Japanese equivalents 'silly money'?

I've had my fair share of cars, bought with both head and heart. I've learnt to respect the three 'R's

1) Ride Quality
2) Reliability
3) Running Costs

Whatever car one needs - hatchback, 4x4 whatever, test it against the three 'R's, using a test drive and customer feedback.

Right now, the best used car in the country is a Toyota Avensis Estate 1.8 Valvematic petrol, with the M-Drive automatic transmission. A 3-yr old example can be had for under £10K, still with 2 years Toyota warranty. It's a brilliant petrol engine, with none of the modern diesel shenanigans, and it's do 40 mpg all day long, with carrying five and their luggage on holiday. Servicing is cheap and simple too.

You miss my point.

Jap cars just don't excite me unless you start to look at the upper end of the Market,

Nissan GTR

Lexus RCF

You don't see the bigger picture:

1) We live in a country with 70mph maximum speed limit
2) There is approximately 56 metres of road space per car
3) The cost of owning a vehicle is, basically, a financial black hole. Unless your employer or another third party subsidises it
4) Faced with the above, there's much MUCH better things to spend one's money on. I've owned a few speedy cars, but I got more thrill and memories from a holiday to Cornwall this year, and it cost less than depreciation.

Of course, a car is a necessity for many. But there's this extraordinary psychological mismatch between what they do in the real world, and what their owners think of them. I've learnt my lesson, and others are starting too also, especially after the last 10 years of badly engineered diesel 'technology'.

Buy used, Buy Jap, Buy petrol. And keep the money saved for things far more exciting than driving in this congested (but still beautiful) island.

Edited By: Sulphur Man on Oct 29, 2014 10:56
af1
Just bought one of this. Incredible car, and even I was surprised and how economic the diesel is. I get around 600-650 miles from a full tank (£65 ish). Most of all, the look on people's face when they see a 20 year old stepping out of this bad boy.. Priceless.

Rude boy
Just bought one of this. Incredible car, and even I was surprised and how economic the diesel is. I get around 600-650 miles from a full tank (£65 ish). Most of all, the look on people's face when they see a 20 year old stepping out of this bad boy.. Priceless.
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BMW z4 SDrive18i £6373 discount - now £21,367.00!! @ Broadspeed

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BMW z4 SDrive18i Roadster down to £21,367 @ Broadspeed. Other deals on Z4s available with even more discount further up the range. These are UK cars and Broadspeed put you in touch with the UK s…
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manbearpig


Sigh

The mx5 is lighter and more agile than the new z4.. It setup is built for a little 130bhp engine - which is why it is amazingly fun!

Why is this difficult to understand??

This 18i will NOT drive like a mx5.. It will be slower, more refined and not as raw.

This is a heavy car. Go drive an mx5 and this and then report back. Until then I will assume you're another idiot.

I never said it would drive like an MX5. I said you didnt need a load of power to have FUN. My 1.6 MX5 reference was an example of not needing big BHP to enjoy a car.

No its not an MX5, and no, its not a Porsche Boxster either. Its not trying to be either. It has its own personality.

And so far we've had an '89 MX5 1.6, a 2002 1.8i Sport, a 2003 MX5 mk2.5 1.8i, a mk2 MR2 t bar, a mk3 MR2, an MG 1.8TF, a 3.0Si Coupe z4 M Sport mk1, and current a Z4 mk2 SDrive20i M Sport, right through to various coupes - Celicas, 320Ci, 325Ci, 3 330Cis, various hot hatches, through to some reasonably heavy duty kit including a Prodrive modded Subaru Impreza WRX-S hatch, and topping out on the BHP stakes with a 330BHP modded 535d M Sport, and a 350BHP modded 535d M Sport.

So, no i'm not an "idiot". And no its not all about the power, its about enjoying the car.

This car is about the roof down on a summers evening, or chucking a bag in the boot, hopping in and heading away to a country hotel for the weekend, or maybe taking in a coastal road on a Saturday. And yet its refined enough to be driven every day (as my wife does with her SDrive20i M Sport variant)

At £21K its an "option" - something to have a look at if you're in the market AND a lot cheaper now than its german peers - the TT and the SLK.
pgilc1
manbearpig
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manbearpig
154bhp.. All show no go

Power to weight ratio, numpty. 154bhp in a truck is crap, 154bhp in a mini made of carbon fibre means you need new tyres every 1000 miles.

Don't assume that any modern car is lightweight. Especially not one with an electric folding metal roof.

This weights in at 1420kg - exactly the same as the 3- Series and 100kg heavier than the 1 series (petrol).

154bhp may be adequate, but it is no sports car - hence my comment is true. All show no go.

Its the entry level car. Theres far more powerful engines further up the range including a 3.0i Twin Turbo pushing out 340BHP.

Also, convertibles arent all about speed. As i've said already on this thread, probably the most fun i've had in a convertible was a 1989 MX5 1.6. Great little car.


Sigh

The mx5 is lighter and more agile than the new z4.. It setup is built for a little 130bhp engine - which is why it is amazingly fun!

Why is this difficult to understand??

This 18i will NOT drive like a mx5.. It will be slower, more refined and not as raw.

This is a heavy car. Go drive an mx5 and this and then report back. Until then I will assume you're another idiot.
Thanks, ordered 4 in different colors
Zuulan
Baldricky
Gozer
With the new TT now starting at £30k, this is a great alternative.
I have not voted and am unable to contribute to any discussion on the merits of the TT versus the Z4, as I am not a hairdresser. :D

Well you couldn't afford either so not something for you to worry about.
Link please?
manbearpig
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manbearpig
154bhp.. All show no go

Power to weight ratio, numpty. 154bhp in a truck is crap, 154bhp in a mini made of carbon fibre means you need new tyres every 1000 miles.

Don't assume that any modern car is lightweight. Especially not one with an electric folding metal roof.

This weights in at 1420kg - exactly the same as the 3- Series and 100kg heavier than the 1 series (petrol).

154bhp may be adequate, but it is no sports car - hence my comment is true. All show no go.

Its the entry level car. Theres far more powerful engines further up the range including a 3.0i Twin Turbo pushing out 340BHP.

Also, convertibles arent all about speed. As i've said already on this thread, probably the most fun i've had in a convertible was a 1989 MX5 1.6. Great little car.
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BMW z4 35iS £13,903 off price now £32,047.00 @ Broadspeed

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Top of the range Z4 35iS now with massive £13,903 discount from broadspeed. Other deals on Z4s available such as the 2.0i M Sport with £6,000 off list. The entry level car even has over £6,000 o…
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This is a lot of car for the money :D
Proveright
A car is 4 wheels and an engine to get you from A to B ( though some new cars are not even reliable enough to do that ) .

Who is daft enough to spend £32,000 on a car , or any asset that depreciates every year ? It is all ego .

If they can afford it, why not? Not all of us are living on the breadline you know.
aljack
Proveright
A car is 4 wheels and an engine to get you from A to B ( though some new cars are not even reliable enough to do that ) .

Who is daft enough to spend £32,000 on a car , or any asset that depreciates every year ? It is all ego .

Because some can afford it ;)

"You live to what you earn"

If you can why not!
Proveright
A car is 4 wheels and an engine to get you from A to B ( though some new cars are not even reliable enough to do that ) .

Who is daft enough to spend £32,000 on a car , or any asset that depreciates every year ? It is all ego .


Because some can afford it ;)
"What a dull life you must be leading. Still, you can always look at HUKD threads for expensive products and make inane comments."

Any one with £32,000 spare would not buy that. The buyer is more likely to be some one who cannot really afford it and buys on tick under the misdirection that is a penile extension or going through a mid life crisis!
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BMW Z4 sDrive 35is (340hp flappy paddle thing) - Broadspeed - £31,593.00

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30% off a BMW - If you're in the market for the best hairdressers car on the market and have no need for indicators and have no consideration for other road users now's your chance to "save" some mone…
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:p8)
SaxtonH
Anyone actually used these guys? What was your experience like?

I've seen quite a few deals from them posted here recently but a quick Google seems concerning. Customer reviews include reports of overcharging, disagreements, delays and litigation. Extremely off putting, especially given the sums of money involved here.
Have used Broadspeed in the past and they have been absolutely fine.

The issue some folk seem to have is they quote a fee of £199 - which is a finders fee type thing - They also get a commission which is much higher - but this is all included in the savings you get - they could be a bit more transparent to be honest as most people are only really interested in the total price to change - Just read the "small print".

They put you in touch with a main dealer and away you go :).

As for getting a main dealer to match - The Aberdeen one would just laugh at you - they have 2 year old cars on the forecourt as per my earlier post for £600 less that a brand new one from Here :)
I would show this deal to a main bmw dealer and ask them to beat it. When i got my last car i found that you can haggle between different dealers in the same group aswell..
Anyone actually used these guys? What was your experience like?

I've seen quite a few deals from them posted here recently but a quick Google seems concerning. Customer reviews include reports of overcharging, disagreements, delays and litigation. Extremely off putting, especially given the sums of money involved here.
Jasey_
SouthParkFan
Flappy paddle = COLD

Worst invention ever
Another person interested into the why of this statement.

Which flappy paddle have you experienced and what was the drawback(s) of it ?


He was just having a laugh, it turns out.
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** Volkswagen Tiguan S 1.4 TSI 160PS - £17,594.00 (Save £4106) @ Broadspeed

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Decent discount off this family car. Diesel version is also available for £18,161 saving £4,184. Standard Spec •Alloy wheels, four 6.5J x 16" Portland with 215/65 R16 tyres and anti-theft wheel…
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There is a cheaper deal out there ! Check broker4cars
CrazyBob
Agree with above, my Yeti came from Carfile.
They just put you in touch with their preferred dealer.

This exactly what Broadspeed and Drive the Deal do, they put you in touch with a UK supplying dealer and you deal direct with them. Essentially they've just negotiated the discount or you.
Agree with above, my Yeti came from Carfile.
They just put you in touch with their preferred dealer.
Just mention that you need to do some research before you buy from one of those car fleet sellers. I would only buy from someone were I deal directly with a dealer ((referral fleet discount deal, i.e. carfile.net).

Edited By: pet2000 on May 21, 2014 14:35
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** BMW Z4 28i M Sport 245bhp - Save £10,812 - £26,578.00 @ Broadspeed

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Enjoy some summer motoring with this excellent 2 seater Roadster. Standard Spec •18" light alloy wheels M Star-spoke style 325 M •Air-conditioning, automatic with single-zone control (18i only)…
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Remus81May 21, 2014
Buy one with a few thousand on the clock and save a further 10 grand.....because there's always some mug who wants first dibs

Please send me a link to this 2014 Z4 with 2000 mikes on the clock for £16k. I'll buy it today as it would be a cracking buy!!!!
Morons complaining about BMW drivers..Ha!
So what people are saying is when you go from one car brand to another you change you driving bad habits to match the brand stereotype? Odd, I wonder if the knows in their battered citreons and pugeots etc stop being jealous stereotypical asses when they get a nice car.

The z4 isn't a women's or hairdresser's car, it's just a nice all rounder.
Very few cars should be classed as a man's or women's car,pathetic the stigma attached to gender and cars
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monkeyhanger75
Is there a new model due out? The current one is now 12 years old. Seems a decent spec for the discounted price, it's a bit of a woman's car though - 3 lasses have one at my place of work and they all enjoy theirs.


A woman's car with 245bhp? Scary thought...



Scary thought that people place what sex should own what car. Get what you like and can afford.
aljack
monkeyhanger75
Is there a new model due out? The current one is now 12 years old. Seems a decent spec for the discounted price, it's a bit of a woman's car though - 3 lasses have one at my place of work and they all enjoy theirs.


The above model is the current model which was released in 2009. This model is more refined than it's predecessor, more sporty GT competing with the Slk market share as opposed to the boxster. Still a decent enough drive but not enough to out box a boxster. Heat from me.



Well said. The 2nd gen z4 is nearly 400kg heavier than the gen 1. Folding hardtop, much better interior and more spacious.
monkeyhanger75
Is there a new model due out? The current one is now 12 years old. Seems a decent spec for the discounted price, it's a bit of a woman's car though - 3 lasses have one at my place of work and they all enjoy theirs.

A woman's car with 245bhp? Scary thought...
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Ford Fiesta T EcoBoost 1.6 182PS Petrol, ST Manual 3dr £14,683.00 @ broadspeed

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This is another hot deal take a look .
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hooray henry
Fifteen thousand pound coins for a Fiesta! Thats just wrong.

Keep it a couple of years and just sell it, will easliy get 10k for it. Not a bad price to pay for 2 years of ownership.

Buy a 2012 fiesta and avoid a big depreciation hit. Cars lose 40% in the first year of use.
Not a bad idea to get a used car in good condition.

A car will lose 40% if its a crap car or you get a crap deal. My DS3 is worth 54% of the price I paid for it at 3 years old, 38000 miles.
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there are some really stupid comments on here. If you don't know what is being posted, please don't comment. This is an excellent price for a little car that is in very high demand. 1 year old cars are similar prices to this.
And as for the comment about buying a 2012 car, that would be hard seeing the ST was only introduced in 2013.

review for those interested. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/st-hatchback



Edited By: markymark34 on May 20, 2014 20:54
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Ford focus st £17,368.00 @ broadspeed

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This seems cheap ! Drive the deal is cheaper if you want to take finance £16938.99 but dearer if not !
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Heartbleed bug on broadspeed site so beware.
I'm on broadspeed every day and not had a problem got ant proof
yes - https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/#www.broadspeed.com:443
rhodyate
Heartbleed bug on broadspeed site so beware.
I'm on broadspeed every day and not had a problem got ant proof
Heartbleed bug on broadspeed site so beware.
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Davethedealhunter
If they are not breaking rules then why have all the rest been 'marked as spam'? rest my case. :)
They were member spammed Davethedealhunter, and all returned now.
thank you these are honest deals!
Davethedealhunter
If they are not breaking rules then why have all the rest been 'marked as spam'? rest my case. :)

They were member spammed Davethedealhunter, and all returned now.
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BMW 5-Series 530d Luxury 3.0 Diesel Automatic 4dr (9k off) - £35,152.00 @ Broadspeed

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Nearly 9K of a brand new 5 series with a fairly decent spec. •18" light alloy wheels Multi-spoke style 454 with run-flat tyres •Air conditioning, automatic with two-zone control •Bluetooth hands-…
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Common sense prevails from the above 2 comments,clowns in vehicles come in multiple makes
liamf12
Why so much hate for BMW? Because we're all sick of waiting at junctions for them, only to find them turn without indicating. Nearly getting run down on zebra crossings because they seem to think they shouldn't have to stop. Sitting 3 inches off your bumper because speed limits aren't high enough for them and their incompatibility with hands free kits.
Then we have to listen to this endless waffle about quality and reliability, I know they look nice and I know it's difficult for BMW drivers to notice anything around them, pedestrians, road signs, other vehicles etc. If you do look away from your phones for a few minutes and observe the hard shoulder, you'll notice what the rest of us did years ago.
That has nothing to do with BMW. It is the reckless drivers some of which also drive Vauhalls, fords, audis, merc etc. You need to get a life.
liamf12
Why so much hate for BMW? Because we're all sick of waiting at junctions for them, only to find them turn without indicating. Nearly getting run down on zebra crossings because they seem to think they shouldn't have to stop. Sitting 3 inches off your bumper because speed limits aren't high enough for them and their incompatibility with hands free kits.
Then we have to listen to this endless waffle about quality and reliability, I know they look nice and I know it's difficult for BMW drivers to notice anything around them, pedestrians, road signs, other vehicles etc. If you do look away from your phones for a few minutes and observe the hard shoulder, you'll notice what the rest of us did years ago.
ahhh you must be right because 100% of the BMW drivers you experienced driving like "BMW drivers" do indeed represent all the BMW drivers in UK. Thanks for that.
The grill is mentioned 3 times in the spec, so it must be awesome ;)
I'd have it. hated BMWs that was until I took one out for a spin best car I've ever driven now own 325d and use me indicators lol, haters take 1 for a spin
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RenaultSport Clio Cup 200 £14,838.00 (RRP £16930) @ Broadspeed 0-62 6.9s & 141mph 200BHP

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The best £ for £ hot hatch on sale in the UK at present, RRP is £16930 so a saving of over £2000. Usual discounters only offer about £700 off this car so this is really good deal IMO. Featuring a…
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Nope in my Dads eyes they lived off the Renault 19 experience he had and then my Mum was disabled and found the Scenic easy to get into to, so they stuck with them. Its a mobility car so the reliability isn't a massive issue.


So your opinion is based solely off the experience of a few standard French cars in 15 years? You can't compare them these cars and haven't once commented on the cars themselves only the experience of the dealers you bought the car from or used for servicing and repairs. These are very different things.

I have owned the following French cars:

- 2000/W Renault Megane Coupe
- 2003/52 Renault Clio 172 Cup
- 2002/52 Renault Clio 172
- 2010/60 Renault Clio 200

Other than a fault window motor in the megane and an electrical issue stopping the lights working correctly in the 172, I haven't had any problems whatsoever.

mocmocamoc
As said before, no doubt a fast car that looks good on youtube, its the long term reliability you should worry about


No, I buy the car for it's performance rather than how reliable it will be in 3 years when I'll no longer own the car any more.
Have any of you actually owned a renault sport car?! i have had a megane rs and twingo rs both were jaw dropping in the performance and handling department, i also never had a single issue with them except for the mpg in the r26!! but then they are performance cars so you cannot compare them to the standard cars - get it straght people for gods sake!!!l.
Nope in my Dads eyes they lived off the Renault 19 experience he had and then my Mum was disabled and found the Scenic easy to get into to, so they stuck with them. Its a mobility car so the reliability isn't a massive issue.

As said before, no doubt a fast car that looks good on youtube, its the long term reliability you should worry about
mocmocamoc
Nope, my reviews of Renaults are based on about a 15 year owning history of which includes a month old Scenic.

Nobody is disputing the car is no doubt fun to drive and a decent spec, just questioning the reliability of them generally.

Your review is basically "the car is cool with chavboy wheels, get one now" and doesn't do anything to refute claims of unreliability, the phrase you were looking for is "had my car 14 years and its never broken down once"

However I imagine your car has been to the dealer as many times as anyone elses


Then if you have owned Renaults over a 15 year period they can't all be bad to stop you going back for more :)

No, my comments never mentioned the wheels. I mentioned the suspension set-up as the handling is one of the main selling points of this car. May I point your attention to this youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae4RqTW5UDU

Wrong again. For your information, my car hasn't been back to the dealers once in 6 months. It's been perfect without a single issue.
Nope, my reviews of Renaults are based on about a 15 year owning history of which includes a month old Scenic.

Nobody is disputing the car is no doubt fun to drive and a decent spec, just questioning the reliability of them generally.

Your review is basically "the car is cool with chavboy wheels, get one now" and doesn't do anything to refute claims of unreliability, the phrase you were looking for is "had my car 14 years and its never broken down once"

However I imagine your car has been to the dealer as many times as anyone elses
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NEW CAR - BUY ONE GET ONE FREE £15,220.00

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Great deal for a brand new car, however personally i would tell them to keep the other car as they aren't supposed to be very good cars, although could be useful to keep as spare incase you lose the f…
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Kia's all smell of wee wee.
Inactive;4481850
I wonder how many of the people knocking these cars have actually driven one?:roll:


Totally agree - most manufacturers make good cars - remember the primary purpose of a car is to get you places, and most do that. Whether they do it with excitement, thrills, 0-60 under 5 secs whatever - a car is still a car.
csiman;4482810
yep - cos they know they'll be out of business in 3 ;-)


There will be plenty more that go out of business before Kia ( read Hyundai ) do.

Chrysler, GM, Ford, Volvo, Saab to name a few.
MinstrelMan;4482490
what makes them ***** ? based on looks then maybe, but for reliability? theres only 1 reason that they can give 7 years manufacturers warrenty :roll:

yep - cos they know they'll be out of business in 3 ;-)
thatscheap;4479304


Kia are pretty **** but its down to the individual,



what makes them ***** ? based on looks then maybe, but for reliability? theres only 1 reason that they can give 7 years manufacturers warrenty :roll:
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