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BT and FON to offer free wireless WiFi nationwide

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BT and FON have joined forces to create a Wi-Fi community that allows its members to connect for free in thousands of places around the UK and the world.

Any BT Internet/Broadband customer can join for free and those with Home Hubs can also be set up a HotSpot for other customers.

Anyone doing this seems to get:

- free access to other BT customers WiFi hotspots
- free access to BT Openzone hotspots
- free access to any FON Hotspot anywhere in the world.

Note: that is someone else uses your connection as a hotspot, it doesn't come out of your own usage allowance and contains security so they are 100% separated from your own home network

Anyone opting in will be sent a firmware upgrade to their Home Hub (if they have one) from Monday

More details including FAQs and a forum at http://www.btfon.com/

Regards
Sunil
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#1
dang just got my netgear ... wish i had gotten the free FONERA.
#2
Was only a matter of time before a UK company picked them up. Great deal and now a sound way for UK users to connect.
#3
what does the person and the company get from giving away free broadband.
#4
From what I can see, you have to buy another La Fonera from BT even if you already own one, in order to use the service. Is that right?
#5
hmm i might reflash my two foneras and get them setup again! Seems like there will be a lot more hot spots open to me now!
#6
pooka
what does the person and the company get from giving away free broadband.


btfon.com

What do when I get join BT FON?

In exchange for sharing your bandwidth with other BT FON members who are in range of your Wi-Fi connection, you can get access to broadband whenever you are in range of another member''s connection. BT FON members can also access FON hotspots anywhere in the world.

BT Total Broadband customers who are members of BT FON can also have access at BT Openzone Hotspots.


wonder if ipod touch's can access it too, they need to publicise this more though, and maybe offer discounts and other offers to ppl who share really...
#7
I'm on BT Broadband and just joined this minute and I've been notified that I can now use any hotspot in the UK overseas after approx 2 hours after joining and my BT home hub's firmware will be updated shortly by download to provide a local hotspot. Nice to be able to use my M3100 anywhere in the UK now !
#8
This is great news. Got my Fon free a while ago but it looks like more hotspots are now available. Time to download the poi into my pda and do some surfing while I'm on the road :)
#9
[SIZE=2]Will BT_Fon publish a POI themselves I wonder ? Definitely be useful out and about with a GPS enabled PDA..........[/SIZE]
#10
ashcan
[SIZE=2]Will BT_Fon publish a POI themselves I wonder ? Definitely be useful out and about with a GPS enabled PDA..........[/SIZE]


You can download the POI on the FON website.
#11
Thanks Stora - I'll go grab it now......>
#12
Does each individual user in each household have to register their own details?

ie..their own email addy and password...or is it just the main user..

I have registered myself, does my son have to do the same?

I hope that makes sense!
#13
I think its only the named person that has the registered BT Broadband account that gets the free access. Its based on their BT user ID and password.
1 Like #14
Just thought I'd add that McDonalds are going to add unlimited free wifi to all their places by the end of the year.

http://www.vnunet.com/computing/news/2200611/mcdonald-free-wifi
#15
pooka
what does the person and the company get from giving away free broadband.


Basically, if no one has said already...

anyone who is sharing will able to access any other hotspot free, but...

anyone who isn't will be charged by BT.

That's how they'll make the money
#16
Scribbles
From what I can see, you have to buy another La Fonera from BT even if you already own one, in order to use the service. Is that right?


No, if you already have a La Fonera you can still use it and will now be able to access these new BTFON hotspots as well. (as well as BT Openzone locations it seems)

If you are a BT Broadband customer, you can elect to opt into BTFON instead/as well and if you do and have a BT Home Hub they will upload new firmware onto it to make act as a FON hotspot.

Regards
Sunil
#17
I got my free Fon a year ago and it's still connected and working. I kept it plugged in even though I've I don't have a laptop to be able to use other Fon hotspots. I guess I was waiting for the Fon community to grow and then I would buy a laptop. Seems my wait was worth it.

I just wanted to add
BT's three million Total Broadband customers will be asked to join a community developed by BT and FON...

Membership will grant users access to BT Openzone hotspots, the 190,000 hotspots FON claims worldwide, and internet connections owned by other members for no extra charge.

If another of the 500,000 international "Foneros" accesses your Home Hub, they'll be allocated 512Kbit/s of downstream bandwidth. Any data the guest downloads won't count towards the owner's usage allowance. If, in turn, a Total Broadband punter uses FON out and about, it'll be recorded on their account. BT says it'll know who carried out any illegal activity and that access to the network will be secure.
Source: The Register

To me it seems to have access to BT Openzone hotspots also is incredible. I find loads of them all over the place. Especially in town centres. Loads are located near coffee shops (where you're less likely to find Home Hub customers). And also it seems if you travel and find another Fon hotspot, you're in luck too. Hopefully the Fon Network will be everywhere soon.
#18
So they will be able to tell who has downloaded what from a certain hotspot ? i'm just worried that if you become a local hotspot and find Gary Glitter parked outside your house.
#19
gt94sss2
No, if you already have a La Fonera you can still use it and will now be able to access these new BTFON hotspots as well. (as well as BT Openzone locations it seems)


From the FAQs on btfon.com it says:

"BT Total Broadband customers who are members of BT FON can also have access at BT Openzone Hotspots."

ie. you only get the openzone if you are with BT. So basically for existing FON members, we may just get other FON hotspots popping up but not much else. I think...
#20
he he :giggle:
#21
wolvesinwales
So they will be able to tell who has downloaded what from a certain hotspot ? i'm just worried that if you become a local hotspot and find Gary Glitter parked outside your house.


When you sign up, your firmware will get upgraded on your home hub. This means your hub will now have TWO wireless network ids (SSIDs).
The one which makes your hub a hotspot will have disjoint and traceable traffic from your own. Further any usage on the public ssid is not counted against your allowance and always takes lower preference to your own traffic (people using your hot spot cant affect your broadband bandwith btvision etc...)
#22
wolvesinwales
So they will be able to tell who has downloaded what from a certain hotspot ? i'm just worried that if you become a local hotspot and find Gary Glitter parked outside your house.


I think we are all missing something here. My BT homehub wireless signal only just about gets picked up by the laptop in the spare room, directly above it. What hope does someone on the street have to get a signal!
#23
What measures do they have to keep connections from overloading your hub? My BT home hub requires constant rebooting with just my wife and I using it without any P2P.
#24
srboisvert
What measures do they have to keep connections from overloading your hub? My BT home hub requires constant rebooting with just my wife and I using it without any P2P.

see post #22
#25
i'd like to know if this comes out of your bandwidth quota (and speed) or if hotspot access is essentially like a second account/line.

if it eats into your bandwidth and slows your connection (only so much qos can do) then i think its a bit of a cheek, essentially something for nothing for bt/fon - especially if they're charging people to use your bandwidth too (and making you buy a new router)!
#26
I can't really see what advantage (if any) there will be for BT, in the case of someone like myself who lives in a small rural village, which is hardly the sort of place an 'outsider' would be looking for a wi-fi hotspot anyway.

Although my ISP is BT Broadband, I actually use a Netgear hub/router, although I do own a laptop, and can see an advantage of being able to freely use other BT Openzones etc.

I suppose I have nothing to loose in signing up for it anyway... or have I?
#27
stpandp
I think we are all missing something here. My BT homehub wireless signal only just about gets picked up by the laptop in the spare room, directly above it. What hope does someone on the street have to get a signal!



Have you not read the small print? You have to invite other users in for a cup of tea so that they are in range!
#28
Benjimoron
Have you not read the small print? You have to invite other users in for a cup of tea so that they are in range!

:-D :-D :-D
#29
Thanks have signed up!!!
#30
Benjimoron
Have you not read the small print? You have to invite other users in for a cup of tea so that they are in range!


not quite true. a few months ago they had a £2 offer for their range expander antenna. currently my fon goes bang across and down my street, and is probably 2-3 times the range of my modded linksys.
#31
Quick ? i dont have a phone line and im not in a cable area and want to use my Xbox 360 to go on live is there any other way i seen a web n walk offer with t mobile would this work or not ???
#32
nutta
Quick ? i dont have a phone line and im not in a cable area and want to use my Xbox 360 to go on live is there any other way i seen a web n walk offer with t mobile would this work or not ???


You can also get satellite broadband. Have a google
#33
thanks will look would the web n walk offer work with an xbox 360 ??
#34
So who is liable if someone uses the router to download copyright music or indecent material?

As I understand it, if you allow your modem to be used to download illegal data, you are still criminally liable whether you knew about it or not.
#35
declanh
When you sign up, your firmware will get upgraded on your home hub. This means your hub will now have TWO wireless network ids (SSIDs).
The one which makes your hub a hotspot will have disjoint and traceable traffic from your own. Further any usage on the public ssid is not counted against your allowance and always takes lower preference to your own traffic (people using your hot spot cant affect your broadband bandwith btvision etc...)


I do wonder whether BT is going to guarantee to help customers when the police/RIAA turn up on your doorstep. Sure, it's fine to say that the 'illegal' stuff can be attributed to someone else, but at the end of the day it's still my phone line the illegal stuff is travelling down. I don't want to be the guinea pig to test this out in court ...

Al
#36
stora
This is great news. Got my Fon free a while ago but it looks like more hotspots are now available. Time to download the poi into my pda and do some surfing while I'm on the road:)



Sounds a bit dangerous...:whistling:
#37
chamelion
not quite true. a few months ago they had a £2 offer for their range expander antenna.



Did you post a DEAL for it then!:whistling:
#38
Hooray free radiation for everyone...:roll:
#39
marble
I do wonder whether BT is going to guarantee to help customers when the police/RIAA turn up on your doorstep. Sure, it's fine to say that the 'illegal' stuff can be attributed to someone else, but at the end of the day it's still my phone line the illegal stuff is travelling down. I don't want to be the guinea pig to test this out in court ...

Al


Um, FON have been in the UK for ages . . .

http://maps.fon.com/
#40
i would assume you have to login to use a hotspot somehow rather than it basically being an open access point, that way the riaa will be able to get the user's details from bt (and bt can charge you for use, or allow it for free).

also is it proper internet access (any port/protcol) or is it web-only like a lot of wifi cafes?

i still don't like the sound of it at all. either give us free wifi like in the states, or don't, but don't do some el-cheapo dodgey security halfway house.

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