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Bush BFSAT02SD Black Freesat SD Digital Box now £27.99 at Argos

£27.99 @ Argos
Since Sky have now switched off their old free-to-air cards I no longer get a few channels, and they are charging £20 for a replacement card. I remembered there had been a deal on here about a Bush S…
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Since Sky have now switched off their old free-to-air cards I no longer get a few channels, and they are charging £20 for a replacement card. I remembered there had been a deal on here about a Bush SD freesat box reduced from £48.99 to £29.99 at Argos, but see they have now knocked another £2 off, taking it down to £27.99.

Ideal if, like me, you only use FTA channels and don't want to register your details wiith SKY.

They are still selling the Grundig badged box (exactly the same?) for £54.99
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#1
Whats the cheapest HD box?
#2
My mother-in law had the same problem when Sky switched off old cards however I did not think a new Freesat box would help as I do not think the Channels she would miss Five US etc. are available on Freesat?

Are any extra channels available on one of these boxes that you do not get with a SKY box with no card?

Vic
banned#3
will you get chanell 5? this is no HD is it?
#4
Five US on freeview as is fiver.
5 is available on freesat.

Why not take a look at freesat and freeview websites to have a look what you get?

And yes, I do know freesat and freeview are different but as lots of people have freeview equipment already or can be bought for very cheap why not have both?

This is not HD.
#5
Yes, you will get Channel 5 (which you won't get on a Sky box without a card).

Here's a link to the list of channels, although this box doesn't pick up HD. I'm just using them for smaller TVs in bedrooms.

http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=whatson.Main
#6
vshears
My mother-in law had the same problem when Sky switched off old cards however I did not think a new Freesat box would help as I do not think the Channels she would miss Five US etc. are available on Freesat?

Are any extra channels available on one of these boxes that you do not get with a SKY box with no card?

Vic


The only 2 Freeview channels you don't get on Freesat is Dave and Virgin. All other channels are available. Plus you get Fiver +1 and Five US +1 (which isn't available on Freeview).

You also get extra channels such as movies and some minority channels, plus massive shopping and games channels.
#7
This box is no good channels take ages to change humax box is so much better this is slow and not even worth £20
#8
cruisecars;8047468
This box is no good channels take ages to change humax box is so much better this is slow and not even worth £20

or punctuation!
#9
Black Mac
Yes, you will get Channel 5 (which you won't get on a Sky box without a card).



You will via " Add Channels ".;-)
#10
Most of the reviews on the Argos site seem positive.
I've just picked one up and will feedback later (if I have time after changing channel a couple of times!)
banned#11
Black Mac
Yes, you will get Channel 5 (which you won't get on a Sky box without a card).

Here's a link to the list of channels, although this box doesn't pick up HD. I'm just using them for smaller TVs in bedrooms.

http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?page=whatson.Main


THANK YOU:)
#12
I got the HD version of this box at Xmas and its just fine.

It did a firmware upgrade automatically when I installed it and I had to switch off the box at the mains to get it to restart (and that causes some issues for some people), but the box has been just great since.

Also - bear in mind that BBC iPlayer and ITV Catchup are coming to freesat during 2010, so that will make it even better. You need an ethernet cable to connect your Freesat box to your broadband router, but that will mean that you can watch BBC iPlayer through the box and your TV too....
(its already working on Humax boxes as a trial and its being rolled out to all other existing freesat boxes during 2010.)
#13
Checking through the specs, be aware that the SD box only comes with a scart connection.
Even if you're noth bothered about HD channels, you only get an HDMI output on the HD box.
#14
alfiejts
I got the HD version of this box at Xmas and its just fine.

It did a firmware upgrade automatically when I installed it and I had to switch off the box at the mains to get it to restart (and that causes some issues for some people), but the box has been just great since.

Also - bear in mind that BBC iPlayer and ITV Catchup are coming to freesat during 2010, so that will make it even better. You need an ethernet cable to connect your Freesat box to your broadband router, but that will mean that you can watch BBC iPlayer through the box and your TV too....
(its already working on Humax boxes as a trial and its being rolled out to all other existing freesat boxes during 2010.)



i think you will need a hd box to use iplayer

from freesat.co.uk
When BBC iPlayer on freesat becomes live, which products will it be available on?

BBC iPlayer will roll out across all existing freesat HD receivers over time. So there's no need to buy new equipment if you already have a freesat HD box, freesat+ box, or freesat HD TV. Full details will be made available on freesat.co.uk when the service is ready to launch.
#15
No sky news or skysports news on freesat according to the earlier links. Is that right?

If it is, then maybe worth sticking with freeview and considering freeview hd.
#16
Flake99
No sky news or skysports news on freesat according to the earlier links. Is that right?

If it is, then maybe worth sticking with freeview and considering freeview hd.


Correct.

I have Freeview, FreesatfromSky and Freesat.

Freesat has the worse channel line up of all 3 systems IMO.

Freeview has the best.:thumbsup:
#17
didnt think anyone in this country actually watched sky news
#18
Flake99
No sky news or skysports news on freesat according to the earlier links. Is that right?

If it is, then maybe worth sticking with freeview and considering freeview hd.


Yes that is sort of correct. Sky news and sports are not on Freesat, however it's easy enough to swap to 'non freesat' mode and get the Sky news and sports channels with this reciever.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/freesat/951588-bush-bfsat01sd-none-freesat-mode.html

My parents have just moved from freeview to freesat as the freeview signal is rubbish where they live in North Wales and they couldn't get the correct news region. Freesat was their only option, my Dad watches Sky sports news and the installer added it to their Humax Foxsat box via non freesat mode. With this reciever you can get many many decent non freesat channels, (see links within the link I posted above for Eurobird and Astra) there is a lot of rubbish but there's some really decent channels too. So effectively you can get more than just with Freeview. I'd have both Freesat and Freeview personally. Also with Freesat don't forget you can view any news region, so this is very useful if you need local news just outside the area you recieve with Freeview, or border a few regions etc.
#19
Slightly OTT.

We have moved over to Virgin Media but we still have Sky dish up outside our bedroom, could we use that to recieve anything over?

We no longer have the Sky box mind, am I on the riight lines of thinking I could use this box instead? or can I get a Freesat HD one to work with it?

Many Thanks

Think I got the answer I needed - YES.
#20
Yes - I simply connected my Freesat HD box to one of the spare outlets on my Sky satellite dish LNB - I've still got Sky+ but use the Freesat HD box for HD BBC & ITV channels.

If you have a sky dish and no sky box, simply connect the freesat box to one of the existing sky coax cables....
#21
u can get freesat on any non sky branded satellite box. As long as your dish is pointing the right way. So there is many in the market that are better than bush. In my experience the Bush box is very slow.
#22
Black Mac
Yes, you will get Channel 5 (which you won't get on a Sky box without a card).



You can add FIVE manually on a Sky Box with no card.

IMO, freeview is better than freesat.
#23
purchases one of these over the weekend... wasnt picking up a signal at all (perhaps a dodgy batch) http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1194719

the box is the 2nd gen, they dont sell the old version anymore...
#24
Beware customer service with Bush. from my experience their equipment often fails , usually just outside the 12 month warranty, and the bush back up is poor. The product should I believe last longer than 15 months!
#25
alfiejts
Yes - I simply connected my Freesat HD box to one of the spare outlets on my Sky satellite dish LNB - I've still got Sky+ but use the Freesat HD box for HD BBC & ITV channels.

If you have a sky dish and no sky box, simply connect the freesat box to one of the existing sky coax cables....


Many Thanks
#26
pet2000
The only 2 Freeview channels you don't get on Freesat is Dave and Virgin. All other channels are available. Plus you get Fiver +1 and Five US +1 (which isn't available on Freeview).

Sorry - this is incorrect. There's no Fiver or Five US, or their +1s, on Freesat. They are encrypted and require a Sky Digibox with a valid viewing card (although you do not need to have a subscription to Sky). There's also no Sky News or Sky Sports News on Freesat; Sky News is not a part of the Freesat EPG and Sky Sports News is encrypted. TMF, 4Music, Dave and Virgin1 are only available on a Sky box with an active subscription to Sky's channel packages. Furthermore, many free-to-air channels aren't included in the Freesat EPG, so you'll miss out on a few reasonable music channels (among other things).

Also bear in mind that there's a very poor "Red Button" implementation on the BBC channels on Freesat - there's no alternative commentaries or news multiscreen or one-off events (e.g. the Radio 2 sessions or extended Glastonbury coverage).


Unless you're at all interested in the iPlayer service (which is only on Humax HD boxes at the moment) Freesat is a poor proposition compared with Sky's free-to-view option and, where available, Freeview. I'd opt for a replacement viewing card from Sky.
#27
Be warned that this box is not the same as the old box, and only comes with one scart socket. The BFSAT01 was far better equipped with two scart sockets enabling bridging through to a dvd recorder, as well as featuring an ethernet port and an optical SPDIF output connector.

Very much a downgrade, no facilities for record, and most importantly no ethernet means no BBC iplayer.
#28
and no stock???
#29
mix


Unless you're at all interested in the iPlayer service (which is only on Humax HD boxes at the moment) Freesat is a poor proposition compared with Sky's free-to-view option and, where available, Freeview. I'd opt for a replacement viewing card from Sky.


Harvard boxes (Bush, Goodmans, Grundig) are having a firmware update later this month to enable iPlayer, as are Technisat and Sagem boxes.

I personally disagree that Freesat is a poor proposition, it's available to 99% of the country unlike Freeview, and particularly with Freesat HD, its High Definition NOW, unlike Freeview which is a slow roll out in HD and boxes are only just now appearing this Spring.
#30
Flake99
No sky news or skysports news on freesat according to the earlier links. Is that right?

If it is, then maybe worth sticking with freeview and considering freeview hd.


Incorrect, those channels can be tuned into Freesat, as can any Free-to-air channels on the Astra 28E roster.

There is the option to store none-freesat line up channels on top of the automatically tuned in freesat channels.

It is only worth considering Freeview HD if your area is rolling it out, this is going to be a slow process finalising in 2012, so don't expect to be watching the World Cup in HD depending on your area.
#31
cicobuff
Harvard boxes (Bush, Goodmans, Grundig) are having a firmware update later this month to enable iPlayer, as are Technisat and Sagem boxes.

I personally disagree that Freesat is a poor proposition, it's available to 99% of the country unlike Freeview, and particularly with Freesat HD, its High Definition NOW, unlike Freeview which is a slow roll out in HD and boxes are only just now appearing this Spring.


I believe it's just HD boxes that are being upgraded to play the Iplayer.
#32
loopie
I believe it's just HD boxes that are being upgraded to play the Iplayer.


Well this particular box BFSAT02SD is out the equation of that anyway, as I said earlier it doesn't have a Ethernet port unlike the older SAT01SD boxes, but its feasible that Harvard will have firmware upgrades for iplayer for those boxes (BFSAT01SD, GUFSAT01SD, GFSAT100SD) any of the newer 02/200SD revisions cannot physically as the boxes are now cack.
#33
cicobuff
Well this particular box BFSAT02SD is out the equation of that anyway, as I said earlier it doesn't have a Ethernet port unlike the older SAT01SD boxes, but its feasible that Harvard will have firmware upgrades for iplayer for those boxes (BFSAT01SD, GUFSAT01SD, GFSAT100SD) any of the newer 02/200SD revisions cannot physically as the boxes are now cack.


I think for the price its a really good deal if you just want an SD box, I seriously doubt any of the SD boxes will get an Iplayer update ethernet port or not though as I'd imagine the HD boxes have more memory and processor power to cope with the Iplayer.
#34
loopie
I think for the price its a really good deal if you just want an SD box, I seriously doubt any of the SD boxes will get an Iplayer update ethernet port or not though as I'd imagine the HD boxes have more memory and processor power to cope with the Iplayer.


Well, the original specification for Freesat was to include an ethernet port for future program streaming, therefore it would not have been economically viable for the original Harvard boxes to have included an ethernet port, so if they do not release iplayer support for those SD boxes ,then, the ethernet port has no use.

The new boxes have no option at all, for both recording with just one scart socket output, or streaming iplayer.

Whilst these boxes are cheaper, these points have to be noted, they cannot be compared with the older SD boxes, and I personally feel they do not offer good value unless you want a bedroom box.
#35
The SD boxes can't decode H264 so won't be any good good for iPlayer.

With respect to Freesat HD being a decent proposition, again I disagree. Pick up a Sky+HD box (market about to be flooded by them) and the free-to-view card. Then you'll get Sky 3, Sky News, Sky Sports News, Fiver, Five US, etc. (all the FTA and FTV channels) as well as Channel 4 and E4 in HD (and ITV HD through the 'other channels' menu). Plus, if you want to, you can pay a small monthly sub for recording facilities.
#36
cicobuff
Incorrect, those channels can be t[B]uned into Freesat, [/B]as can any Free-to-air channels on the Astra 28E roster.

There is the option to store none-freesat line up channels on top of the automatically tuned in freesat channels.


No they cannot, they can only be stored in the non-Freesat area of the receiver, which is not Freesat.
#37
I heard these bush boxes are crap.
#38
copystuff
I heard these bush boxes are crap.


It's a £28 box, you get what you pay for. I can confirm the Bush HD box has been a very good box, will get Iplayer and is only a little extra.
#39
If any free to air viewers are having trouble getting channel FIVE on their Sky box this link below explains how to sort it:
[url]www.radioandtelly.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1233154757[/url]
#40
mix
The SD boxes can't decode H264 so won't be any good good for iPlayer.

With respect to Freesat HD being a decent proposition, again I disagree. Pick up a Sky+HD box (market about to be flooded by them) and the free-to-view card. Then you'll get Sky 3, Sky News, Sky Sports News, Fiver, Five US, etc. (all the FTA and FTV channels) as well as Channel 4 and E4 in HD (and ITV HD through the 'other channels' menu). Plus, if you want to, you can pay a small monthly sub for recording facilities.


... I beleive it's actually £120 each and every year to $ky just to be able to press the record button on a $ky+ box unless you have a subscription. Far cheaper payback to get a freesat or other satelite PVR.

As regards Freesat v Freeview. Freesat was set up mainly for those that physically cant receive terrestrial TV post DSO.

As regards Freeview HD and Freesat HD. Everyone who wants to watch Freeview HD will need a new box as the millions, including HD TV's out there, cant decode the new signal. The first ones only went on sale last month for £160. Many wont even get it until 2012 or never if you are on a smaller repeater transmitter.

As for Freesat HD and Freeview HD versus $ky HD (or Virgin) the later has loads more HD channels but costs £400+ each and every year. (That's worth a weeks holiday for me!)

You pays your money ...or not .,...and takes your choice

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