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*** IN STORE PURCHASES ONLY ***

Purchased this weekend from my local branch of John Lewis in Welwyn Garden City for £379, complete with 18-55 lens. Online price is still £429.
With ongoing Canon £50 cashback promotion (until 31.12.2007), this will bring price down to £329. Seems like a bargain, despite mixed reviews about the quality of the lens supplied. Have been monitoring online prices (through Camerapricebuster) for a while - cheapest still around £400 for same kit.
Have just confirmed price and availability (30+) with store (01707 323456). May be worth checking whether other branches of JLP (or other major retailers) will 'price match'.

Will be interesting to see how long this kit hangs around at this price ... minded of how quickly some retailers adjust their prices to match demand (Jessops!)

Canon cashback link: http://canon20thanniversary.onlinerebates.com/intro.aspx?country=UK
- djs_172
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suspended#1
good deal, got mine for around £340 ish from currys with quidco and cashback. you should post your stock branch on here so ppl can pricematch it.
#2
Great price. It's rare that in shop prices are lower than on line.

Good time to buy this great camera before the replacement is due probably first qtr next year, especially taking advantage of cashback.

It doesn't seem long ago when I paid £600 for the 300D. Fantastic how some good competition has really dropped the price of entry level D-SLR's
#3
Not a bad price at all for a good camera.

There are mixed reviews about the lens, some people work very well with it, and others hate it. Either way on that infamous auction site you should be able to get about £50 for it, which will help towards an upgrade of lens.
#4
Great price for a great camera.
#5
Damn you HUKD, damn you to hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.

Reserved one (you get a reserve code) will probably pick it up tomorrow
#6
Jessops, £408 - £10 with DSLR10 for £10 off digital SLRS + 9% quidco pickup instore and £50 back from canon

£312!
#7
PS: You can call your LOCAL John Lewis, tell them the code: 82903301 and that Welwyn Garden City branch have it at £379, they will need to confirm that and take yuour name and number and they SHOULD call you back and give you a reserve code number.
#8
djdaface
Jessops, £408 - £10 with DSLR10 for £10 off digital SLRS + 9% quidco pickup instore and £50 back from canon

£312!


Care to explain the maths on that?
1 Like #9
£408
--------
-£10 (SLR Discount)
------
£398
- £35.82 (398/100 * 9) (9% quidco)
------
£362.18
-£50 (Canon Cashback)
-------
£312.18


That good enough for ya? :p
#10
djdaface
£408
--------
-£10 (SLR Discount)
------
£398
- £35.82 (398/100 * 9) (9% quidco)
------
£362.18
-£50 (Canon Cashback)
-------
£312.18


That good enough for ya? :p


Ahh, thank you :)
#11
djdaface
£408
--------
-£10 (SLR Discount)
------
£398
- £35.82 (398/100 * 9) (9% quidco)
------
£362.18
-£50 (Canon Cashback)
-------
£312.18


That good enough for ya? :p


Just checking but do jessops give the full 9% inc VAT when you collect at store? Compared to 9% exc VAT when you have delivered?
#12
pluves1
Just checking but do jessops give the full 9% inc VAT when you collect at store? Compared to 9% exc VAT when you have delivered?


I made a jessops in store reservation earlier @ £398.00 inc. VAT keeping my options open

What quidco tracked:

2007 XX:XX:XX Jessops 337.23 30.35 tracked* ~ Feb 2008

£337.13 x 1.175 = £396.25

So the 9% quidco at jessops is minus VAT.

So really it's £398 with £30+£50 discounted so £318, which is still good...

Assuming pluves1 is 100% accurate in saying quidco on delivery orders includes the VAT on any orders then essnetially it makes delivery free with the extra £6 quidco... with delivery @ £5.95
#13
hi schizoboy,
could you pls tell me how long it took for ur order to get tracked with quidco. ordered around 11.20 pm, quidco don't show anything yet. not sure if i shd just cancel this order and make another order. is that possible ?
thanks in advance
#14
also didn't get any £ 10 discount from the site. i have ordered for collect from the local store. is it possible to cancel and re order with another account in quidco ?
#15
hotisgood
also didn't get any £ 10 discount from the site. i have ordered for collect from the local store. is it possible to cancel and re order with another account in quidco ?


Quidco took over 2h to track.

DSLR10 voucher code took £10 off for me...
#16
Whilst its a cheap lens it is perfectly possible to take some excellent pictures with it. Search on Flickr and pbase for examples and you will see what I mean.

Knowing that people on here rather like a good deal there is a little secret I'll let you into.

With an adaptor plate you can mount lots of really high quality old manual focus lenses on this camera(and most other Canon's). Lenses like the old asahi Takumars, Carl Zeiss, Russian beauties like MIR 1B, Jupiter 37 etc. The adaptor costs ~£5 for a basic straight adaptor or ~£15-20 for one with an Auto Focus confirmation chip on. Basically whislt you still have to turn the focus ring yourself the camera will confirm its in focus by flashing teh relevant zone.

The old lenses go for peanuts on fleabay in comparison to teh equivilant Canon lens.
#17
entwisi
Whilst its a cheap lens it is perfectly possible to take some excellent pictures with it. Search on Flickr and pbase for examples and you will see what I mean.

Knowing that people on here rather like a good deal there is a little secret I'll let you into.

With an adaptor plate you can mount lots of really high quality old manual focus lenses on this camera(and most other Canon's). Lenses like the old asahi Takumars, Carl Zeiss, Russian beauties like MIR 1B, Jupiter 37 etc. The adaptor costs ~£5 for a basic straight adaptor or ~£15-20 for one with an Auto Focus confirmation chip on. Basically whislt you still have to turn the focus ring yourself the camera will confirm its in focus by flashing teh relevant zone.

The old lenses go for peanuts on fleabay in comparison to teh equivilant Canon lens.


Indeed I was planning to go into denial that was the blackhole of money which can be DSLR/SLR lenses.

No doubt once I start playing with it I'll look into that option :)

The case I was thinking of getting:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AL2GB

along with 4gb CF £32ish and £6 Hama UV filter (mostly for lens protection)
#18
entwisi
Whilst its a cheap lens it is perfectly possible to take some excellent pictures with it. Search on Flickr and pbase for examples and you will see what I mean.



I have this camera & this lens & to say the lens takes excellent pictures is one of the most over the top statements I've seen. Any digital camera from £100-00 upwards will give sharper pictures than this lens, believe me I've tried it. Now the Canon EOS400D with a decent lens is a different thing.
#19
This is a great camera - bought one for my other half at xmas - shuuush!! ;)

I DID look at John Lewis - and also at Pixmania who have it as cheap on their website.

Just a note to the wise. The included lens really isnt up to much and SO won't take your camera to the heights that you'll want it. In my humble, better to pay a little less and get the body only - then get the fixed focal 50mm Canon lens that's around £60 on Amazon....you'll be glad you did.
#20
zarguio
This is a great camera - bought one for my other half at xmas - shuuush!! ;)

I DID look at John Lewis - and also at Pixmania who have it as cheap on their website.

Just a note to the wise. The included lens really isnt up to much and SO won't take your camera to the heights that you'll want it. In my humble, better to pay a little less and get the body only - then get the fixed focal 50mm Canon lens that's around £60 on Amazon....you'll be glad you did.


Excellent Advice.
#21
HOTPOT
Excellent Advice.



Thanks. Isnt it weird that for a sub £500 prosumer, Canon will bundle with it a semi-ok lens?! It would have actually been more economical for them to bundle the 50mm fixed focal, as mentioned above. I suppose the average entry dSLR customer wants a bit of zoom!?
#22
There are two sides to that arguement, some saying its poor, others getting great results from it. Ultimately anyone entering into dslr will buy newer and better lenses, but for xmas/2008 the kit is doing to have to do me, and i can always ebay it next year if I wanted.

Best body only 400d deal i;ve seen is £295ish, so it's better to get the kit @ £318ish as the lens is worth at least £40 on ebay.
#23
schizoboy
There are two sides to that arguement, some saying its poor, others getting great results from it. Ultimately anyone entering into dslr will buy newer and better lenses, but for xmas/2008 the kit is doing to have to do me, and i can always ebay it next year if I wanted.

Best body only 400d deal i;ve seen is £295ish, so it's better to get the kit @ £318ish as the lens is worth at least £40 on ebay.



Yes, you're right - of course there are two sides. Sorry. :)

I think its great to get into the dSLR world with this camera and this lens. Particularly good to start with the basics, and then move onwards and upwards to a fixed focal or an 85-200/300 and see what results you get.
#24
Tempted to make two seperate ordered, one for the 400D (which i thought the cashback INCLUDED VAT if you collected from store)

And another for the fixed focus lense, with 10% discount and 9% cashback makes a Canon EF 50mm f1.8 MK2 about £75.
#25
djdaface
Tempted to make two seperate ordered, one for the 400D (which i thought the cashback INCLUDED VAT if you collected from store)

And another for the fixed focus lense, with 10% discount and 9% cashback makes a Canon EF 50mm f1.8 MK2 about £75.



Goodish call, but just a heads-up that the 50mm is available through Amazon (Marketplace) for around £60...
#26
HOTPOT
I have this camera & this lens & to say the lens takes excellent pictures is one of the most over the top statements I've seen. Any digital camera from £100-00 upwards will give sharper pictures than this lens, believe me I've tried it. Now the Canon EOS400D with a decent lens is a different thing.


So there are rubbish are they? http://flickr.com/groups/18-55canon/pool/ for some examples and this is just a two second search. There is a guy on dpreview that does even better.

Re the 'sharper' pictures comment. You clearly don't understand what a DSLR is about. Compacts have cart loads of sharpening built in. That doesn't make it a better picture. DSLRs are about giving YOU control of what you do. That includes NOT putting sharpening on by default. You usually find that DSLRs need some post processing to give the best from the image but as each picture needs a different level of adjustments it is incorrect to apply a one size fits all mentalityl.
#27
In that case i might just wait and get one later on if they are only that much.

Cheers
#28
djdaface
In that case i might just wait and get one later on if they are only that much.

Cheers


That's what I did. Build quality on the 50mm is poor - but then this is a cheap cheap lens. You won't believe how much better than the zoom which comes with the 400D it is.

A happy xmas in your house then!!
#29
The 50mm f1.8 is a fantastic lense for the price. But, it will definitely not suffice as an only lense. Remember on a digital slr, it is the equivalent of an 80mm lense which makes it ideal for portraits but will be limited elsewhere. It is unbelievable for taking pictures in low light, but its focusing ability is limited in very dark conditions. Personally I would recommend getting the lens kit and the 50mm lens. The lens kit will help you get used to the camera and start to consider more serious lens options after.
#30
Just went to place the order to go pick it up and its gone up £11 on the website.

grr
#31
infact in black its gone up loads, £21
#32
Don't let anyone put you off this camera with kit lens. This camera with this lens will give you excellent results and will be a great start into the world of D-SLR photography.

This camera will give you much better results than any digital compact camera and once you learn to use it, you can decide to upgrade to better lenses if you feel the need.

Like someone mentioned earlier, the Canon 50mm f/1.8 is better and fantastic value but it's a fixed lens that can't zoom unlike the 18-55 kit lens, so not as versatile.

I'm tempted to buy this myself as a second spare D-SLR but I've just spent £267 on a Canon G9 compact digital so I can't afford it right now.

The way the prices been dropping though....... I must resist!
#33
djdaface
infact in black its gone up loads, £21


So, by my reckoning ... now £331.29 through Jessops, including (£10)discount and (9%) Quidco. Suddenly makes my original post seem quite tempting again ... and from a reliable retailer, and without the 3 month wait to get your hands on the 'Quidco' money. Don't forget also that the Quidco % reverts to only 3% after midnight tonight.

Watched them (Jessops) do exactly the same with their 8" digital photo frame last weekend ...!

Apologies to all those that missed out, but don't say that I didn't warn you! :whistling:
#34
Yep 400d kit is now £429 on site, previously £408, cheeky ******s.

Fortunately I picked mine up this morning @ £398 charged, £30 quidco come Jan/Feb and £50 canon rebate sometime in Dec I assume £318 total
Sandisk 4gb and filter coming from amazon tomorrow, sorted :thumbsup:
#35
sootyvrs
Don't let anyone put you off this camera with kit lens. This camera with this lens will give you excellent results and will be a great start into the world of D-SLR photography.
!


It will not give 'excellent' results, as I've said before I have the kit lens & tried every setting there is with it. The lens is 'soft', to the rest of us 'soft' means 'slightly out of focus'. Great camera, bad lens. A cheap digital camera will give sharper pictures than this lens, however put the 50mm Canon lens with the EOS 400D & your pictures will be pin sharp. Choice... Zoom & 'Soft' & mostly unusable pictures or no zoom & pin sharp top of the range pictures. Then in time when you have more money get a zoom lens of quality.
#36
I'd be interested to hear what zoom lens people have on their dslr which matches the glorious "sharpness" of the 50mm canon and how much it was :)
#37
I managed to get the 400d through Amazon while at a car show. It was a Canon stand who were promoting via amazon so you ordered on line from their internet connection. It was £402 on Amazon + the £50.00 cashback thus down to £352. However because it was a canon stand they threw in a free Sandisk Extreme III 1Gb card (worth between £18 - £30 depending where you shop) and a free geniune canon battery (worth £45) and a £20.00 amazon voucher (which I used to get a case).

Don't know if there are any other events where a Canon stand may be, but could be worth looking out for.
#38
HOTPOT
It will not give 'excellent' results, as I've said before I have the kit lens & tried every setting there is with it. The lens is 'soft', to the rest of us 'soft' means 'slightly out of focus'. Great camera, bad lens. A cheap digital camera will give sharper pictures than this lens, however put the 50mm Canon lens with the EOS 400D & your pictures will be pin sharp. Choice... Zoom & 'Soft' & mostly unusable pictures or no zoom & pin sharp top of the range pictures. Then in time when you have more money get a zoom lens of quality.



I agree with that man/woman/thing wholeheartedly. There's something about spending £350 on a camera and then making do with the lens that's given. The lens is pretty dire, but having said that it works as a transition for people from cheaper shooters and for - in some cases - £25 more than the bog standard body only, its ok. I just personally spend another £25 on top of that and got the 50mm non focal instead :)

What's the point of zooming into a bug on a leaf if its all blurred?
#39
schizoboy
I'd be interested to hear what zoom lens people have on their dslr which matches the glorious "sharpness" of the 50mm canon and how much it was :)



Some of the non-Canon ones are pretty great...Sigma is a cheap and cheerful, but good alternative. Something like a 85-200mm should get you good clear and clean shots.
#40
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=sigma+28-300mm&btnG=Search+Products&scoring=p

Know any good sites that review non canon lens?

Also what should I look for on tagging IF/ES etc to ensure its compatible?

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