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Canon EOS M Compact System Camera - White (22mm Lens with Adapter Kit, 18MP) Amazon £206.51

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There have been a few deals recently on the version of this camera with the kit zoom lens however this version comes with the 22mm prime lens (which seems to be highly recommended), the adapter for ot… Read More
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There have been a few deals recently on the version of this camera with the kit zoom lens however this version comes with the 22mm prime lens (which seems to be highly recommended), the adapter for other canon lenses and flash. I spotted this on camera price buster this morning and decided to give it a try.
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As a keen user of Canon cameras (7D / S90 / EOS-M), I can maybe add some (hopefully) helpful comments.

First on focusing. With the original firmware, the focusing was not great; there were other mirrorless cameras that focused better. However, the firmware update quite a few months back made a very noticeable difference, particularly in relation to ability to focus on moving objects. It's still not a class leader, and not ideal for selective focusing when snapping kids running about or playing sports. But in all honesty, if you want reliable focusing in those situations, you need a d-slr.

Secondly, lenses. The 22mm is a superb prime lens, and produces incredibly sharp and detailed images at a 35mm film equivalent (semi-wideangle). It is not a 'do it all' walk around lens, like the 18-55 more commonly included in kits (still a reasonable enough lens, but not outstanding). The 11-22mm wideangle zoom is a gem - if it was an EF lens, it would deserve a red ring round it (Canon 'L' standard). I have all these lenses and speak from experience. I do not have the recently announced 55-200, preferring to use the latest 55-250 EF-S STM lens with an adaptor.

So how do I use my cameras. The S90 is my EDC (EveryDayCarry). Even though my phone has an excellent 21mpx camera (Lumia 1520), I am never without my S90 - either in the car glovebox, in my backpack, or in one of my panniers on my bike. It goes everywhere with me. The 7D is part of a canon DSLR system built up over many years with a wide range of lenses, from a 10-18, to a 70-200 f2.8, and the wonderful 15-85 'walkabout'. However, I no longer use the 7D as my 'walkabout'.

That's what the EOS-M has become. I carry it in a small kitbag, on a beltstrap if I'm in a crowded environment. I have the camera body, all the lenses above, and no longer take the 7D on my travels with me. That's how confident I am of the EOS-M's quality.

If you need to focus on individual kids running around, or fast-moving sports, get a D-SLR - for just about everything else, I think you will find the EOS-M a great camera.

Can I add in closing (and I don't mean to sound arrogant) that if what I've written means nothing to you, then probably a 'bridge' type camera, like a Panasonic FZ, is going to be a better option all round. The EOS-M, and other interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras, are more commonly seen as compact additions to an enthusiast's collection, to be used when you don't wish to lug a heavy D-SLR system around with you.

PS - added at 11:08 - Please don't let my wife find this post - I've just ordered one of these kits - even though I already have 2 EOS-M bodies, 2x 18-55mm, and a 22mm, 11-22mm and two lens adaptors (one Canon / one Meike). I figure that for £206, I am getting a treasure chest of spares - I plan to still be using this kit in 5 years!




Edited By: kennethsross on Dec 04, 2014 11:12: additional text

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#1
that is just insane!!!!!!!!!! expected this to be a dodgy 3rd party seller but it's from amazon direct
i bought this for about £260 from HK including duty and thought that was the bargain of the century
#2
Good deal!
#3
Already got the 18-55mm version however this is really tempting. Unbelievable price. Great find
#4
This camera is so overdue a replacement. The focus is so slow on it it's only usable for static objects. Cameras like sony a6000 blow this out of the water although I appreciate this is a superb price for a decent image capture device.

Voted hot but bear in mind focus speed of buying and you need it for kids etc
#5
This or Olympus e-pm2? Voted hot.
#6
craig.walton2
Already got the 18-55mm version however this is really tempting. Unbelievable price. Great find

The lens is interchangeable you could get a 22mm lens that would be loads cheaper
#7
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??
#8
sparklehedgehog
This camera is so overdue a replacement. The focus is so slow on it it's only usable for static objects. Cameras like sony a6000 blow this out of the water although I appreciate this is a superb price for a decent image capture device.

Voted hot but bear in mind focus speed of buying and you need it for kids etc

Comparing it to a camera double it's price is not really a fair comparison, also the auto-focus is a lot better after the update and won't effect anyone who uses it manual.
#9
frogbog
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??

The 22mm lens on this has no zoom so looks good on landscape wide shots or extreme close ups, the 18-55mm would be better suited to you or another camera with better zoom as you will be used to using the zoom on your old camera.
#10
Thanks mallie21. FYI, I enjoy taking macro photos as well as portraits of people and want a camera that can give me a good BOKEH effect without breaking the bank. I believe the bokeh effect is down to the lens?

So is there a camera which you can highly recommend?

Edited By: frogbog on Dec 04, 2014 09:12
#11
frogbog
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??
fz38 completely different sort of camera, this has basically no 'zoom'
much much higher quality pics though but if you want reach (not as much as fz38) then you'll need a new lens. ~300mm for similar reach as your current camera but lower mm will give good crops vs fz38 id imagine.
1 Like #12
frogbog
Thanks mallie21. FYI, I enjoy taking macro photos as well as portraits of people and want a camera that can give me a good BOKEH effect without breaking the bank. I believe the bokeh effect is down to the lens?

So is there a camera which you can highly recommend?

Interesting. Had no idea what BOKEH was so googled it. Never knew there was a word for those blurred out of focus points of light. Thanks
#13
frogbog
Thanks mallie21. So is there a camera which you can highly recommend? FYI, I enjoy taking macro photos as well as portraits of people and want a camera that can give me a good BOKEH effect without breaking the bank.

Yeah this will be excellent for portrait or the bokeh effect but sports/action shots I've not found it great, to be honest I don't know what to recommend I'm an amateur at best really but I'm sure some guys on here could help. I'd look at a few other camera posts on here usually theres hole forums on people who recommend certain cameras for various reasons.
1 Like #14
Trentend
frogbog
Thanks mallie21. FYI, I enjoy taking macro photos as well as portraits of people and want a camera that can give me a good BOKEH effect without breaking the bank. I believe the bokeh effect is down to the lens?

So is there a camera which you can highly recommend?

Interesting. Had no idea what BOKEH was so googled it. Never knew there was a word for those blurred out of focus points of light. Thanks

Lol i did same never knew there was specific name for it.
1 Like #15
no problem mallie21, thanks. btw I think the word I was supposed to say was depth of field, lol!
15 Likes #16
As a keen user of Canon cameras (7D / S90 / EOS-M), I can maybe add some (hopefully) helpful comments.

First on focusing. With the original firmware, the focusing was not great; there were other mirrorless cameras that focused better. However, the firmware update quite a few months back made a very noticeable difference, particularly in relation to ability to focus on moving objects. It's still not a class leader, and not ideal for selective focusing when snapping kids running about or playing sports. But in all honesty, if you want reliable focusing in those situations, you need a d-slr.

Secondly, lenses. The 22mm is a superb prime lens, and produces incredibly sharp and detailed images at a 35mm film equivalent (semi-wideangle). It is not a 'do it all' walk around lens, like the 18-55 more commonly included in kits (still a reasonable enough lens, but not outstanding). The 11-22mm wideangle zoom is a gem - if it was an EF lens, it would deserve a red ring round it (Canon 'L' standard). I have all these lenses and speak from experience. I do not have the recently announced 55-200, preferring to use the latest 55-250 EF-S STM lens with an adaptor.

So how do I use my cameras. The S90 is my EDC (EveryDayCarry). Even though my phone has an excellent 21mpx camera (Lumia 1520), I am never without my S90 - either in the car glovebox, in my backpack, or in one of my panniers on my bike. It goes everywhere with me. The 7D is part of a canon DSLR system built up over many years with a wide range of lenses, from a 10-18, to a 70-200 f2.8, and the wonderful 15-85 'walkabout'. However, I no longer use the 7D as my 'walkabout'.

That's what the EOS-M has become. I carry it in a small kitbag, on a beltstrap if I'm in a crowded environment. I have the camera body, all the lenses above, and no longer take the 7D on my travels with me. That's how confident I am of the EOS-M's quality.

If you need to focus on individual kids running around, or fast-moving sports, get a D-SLR - for just about everything else, I think you will find the EOS-M a great camera.

Can I add in closing (and I don't mean to sound arrogant) that if what I've written means nothing to you, then probably a 'bridge' type camera, like a Panasonic FZ, is going to be a better option all round. The EOS-M, and other interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras, are more commonly seen as compact additions to an enthusiast's collection, to be used when you don't wish to lug a heavy D-SLR system around with you.

PS - added at 11:08 - Please don't let my wife find this post - I've just ordered one of these kits - even though I already have 2 EOS-M bodies, 2x 18-55mm, and a 22mm, 11-22mm and two lens adaptors (one Canon / one Meike). I figure that for £206, I am getting a treasure chest of spares - I plan to still be using this kit in 5 years!




Edited By: kennethsross on Dec 04, 2014 11:12: additional text
#17
Very tempted by this, however, it appears that the 22mm pancake lens selection DOES NOT include the speedlite flash? Might be an issue for some people?
#18
Got this camera with the 18-55mm on here for £200 previously. With the 11-22mm lens instead, this is a significantly better deal than that and a great camera.
#19
I ditched my 600d for one of these about 6 months ago and have never looked back, great camera despite all the negative reviews. I upgraded the firmware when I bought it and never had a problem with slow focusing.
#20
The 22mm lens was selling for £200 not too long ago.
This unit comes with a speedlite, worth at least £50.
Focusing isn't great/fast however there was a firmware update which many claim improved it greatly (it was abysmal for sports/action prior to this, still not great though, esp if you're used to slrs).
The adaptor is great if you already shoot canon, you can use existing ef-s and ef lenses - it's worth £70-£100 on its own.
There is a new model (jap only?) however this camera isn't canon's greatest effort. Def not worth £700 rrp at launch but a spectacular bundle for £200
#21
Tonk3h
Very tempted by this, however, it appears that the 22mm pancake lens selection DOES NOT include the speedlite flash? Might be an issue for some people?

I reckon speedflash is included in ALL Canon EOS M bundles...

Also,
Box Contains
EOS M Body
Camera Cover R-F-4
Strap EM-100DB
Battery Charger LC-E12E
Power Cord (for EUR DC)
Battery Pack LP-E12(OTH)
Battery Cover
Interface Cable IFC-400PCU (for USB Connection)
EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Lens Cap E-43
Lens Dust
Cap EB x2
Mount Adapter EF-EOS M
Speedlite 90EX
Soft Case Speedlite 90EX


frogbog
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??

I had this budget and decided to go with a refurbished Fuji X-M1...
1 Like #22
Argos have been selling the 18-55 kit for 199.99 for quite some time now. I bought one and i'll echo what others have said - great picture quality, but focus is indeed slow. There are other annoyances with the camera which could be resolved in software, but Canon haven't. This camera is due to be replaced - when, we don't know.

Despite its shortcomings, for 200 squid - it is a bargain. I too have ditched my DSLR with red-ring lenses. Justt too heavy to carry around. I take this one with me everywhere.

It does SUPERB video - as you would expect from DSLR video, and works great in low light. It has an APS-C sensor very similar to what is in the Canon 7D. If you do a lot of DSLR video, then this would make an excellent backup camera, or a camera for a 2nd angle.

Spare batteries are fairly inexpensive too - off Amazon.

Lens choice is a bit low too.

If you are a DSLR person - this makes a great addition to your kit bag.
#23
If I wanted to buy the lens and adapter for my EOS M it'd cost this much.
Amazing camera at any price really.
#24
You can even shoot Magic Lantern Raw on this thing!
https://vimeo.com/92726519

(for those that don't know raw video is usually reserved for very expensive 'cinema' video cameras - it's been brought into the realms of canon dslr users through a hack).
#25
hmm..tempted.

I missed out on the fuji deal the other day.

Do you reckon the fuji may come back on offer?
#26
Can someone please explain the benefits/negatives of the 18-55 lens and this lens? Newbie here!
#27
Great price. Ordered from Digital Depot last week and was told it was on its way. Call this morning to say they couldn't get stock from Canon. So basically advertising stuff they didn't have.

Anyway, white wouldn't be my choice and I think I read that the finish in white it quite slippy.

Didn't stop me ordering.

Super hot.
#28
i use an olympus pen ,so i can advise you that a prime or fixed lens is better than a zoom ,not that zooms don't have they're place .
usually faster ,less bulky and they make you work at getting a good shot more .
finally the results are usually better ,zooms are always a compromise .
#29
brilly
frogbog
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??
fz38 completely different sort of camera, this has basically no 'zoom'
much much higher quality pics though but if you want reach (not as much as fz38) then you'll need a new lens. ~300mm for similar reach as your current camera but lower mm will give good crops vs fz38 id imagine.

Sony a5100 or 5000 would be a much better alternative to this for you
#30
zebedee35
Can someone please explain the benefits/negatives of the 18-55 lens and this lens? Newbie here!

the 22mm is a prime fixed distance lens whereas the 18-55mm is a zoom lens you can zoom in and out with
#31
kennethsross
As a keen user of Canon cameras (7D / S90 / EOS-M), I can maybe add some (hopefully) helpful comments.

First on focusing. With the original firmware, the focusing was not great; there were other mirrorless cameras that focused better. However, the firmware update quite a few months back made a very noticeable difference, particularly in relation to ability to focus on moving objects. It's still not a class leader, and not ideal for selective focusing when snapping kids running about or playing sports. But in all honesty, if you want reliable focusing in those situations, you need a d-slr.

Secondly, lenses. The 22mm is a superb prime lens, and produces incredibly sharp and detailed images at a 35mm film equivalent (semi-wideangle). It is not a 'do it all' walk around lens, like the 18-55 more commonly included in kits (still a reasonable enough lens, but not outstanding). The 11-22mm wideangle zoom is a gem - if it was an EF lens, it would deserve a red ring round it (Canon 'L' standard). I have all these lenses and speak from experience. I do not have the recently announced 55-200, preferring to use the latest 55-250 EF-S STM lens with an adaptor.

So how do I use my cameras. The S90 is my EDC (EveryDayCarry). Even though my phone has an excellent 21mpx camera (Lumia 1520), I am never without my S90 - either in the car glovebox, in my backpack, or in one of my panniers on my bike. It goes everywhere with me. The 7D is part of a canon DSLR system built up over many years with a wide range of lenses, from a 10-18, to a 70-200 f2.8, and the wonderful 15-85 'walkabout'. However, I no longer use the 7D as my 'walkabout'.

That's what the EOS-M has become. I carry it in a small kitbag, on a beltstrap if I'm in a crowded environment. I have the camera body, all the lenses above, and no longer take the 7D on my travels with me. That's how confident I am of the EOS-M's quality.

If you need to focus on individual kids running around, or fast-moving sports, get a D-SLR - for just about everything else, I think you will find the EOS-M a great camera.

Can I add in closing (and I don't mean to sound arrogant) that if what I've written means nothing to you, then probably a 'bridge' type camera, like a Panasonic FZ, is going to be a better option all round. The EOS-M, and other interchangeable lens mirrorless cameras, are more commonly seen as compact additions to an enthusiast's collection, to be used when you don't wish to lug a heavy D-SLR system around with you.

PS - added at 11:08 - Please don't let my wife find this post - I've just ordered one of these kits - even though I already have 2 EOS-M bodies, 2x 18-55mm, and a 22mm, 11-22mm and two lens adaptors (one Canon / one Meike). I figure that for £206, I am getting a treasure chest of spares - I plan to still be using this kit in 5 years!




what bag do you use when on walkabout?
#32
sparklehedgehog
zebedee35
Can someone please explain the benefits/negatives of the 18-55 lens and this lens? Newbie here!

the 22mm is a prime fixed distance lens whereas the 18-55mm is a zoom lens you can zoom in and out with

So surely the one at argos for 199.99, with the 18-55mm lens is better....right?
#33
Thanks could not resist for the whole package contents
#34
Bought One a Few minutes Ago..killer deal for this Price and its Contents :)
#35
baconsandwich
You can even shoot Magic Lantern Raw on this thing!
https://vimeo.com/92726519

(for those that don't know raw video is usually reserved for very expensive 'cinema' video cameras - it's been brought into the realms of canon dslr users through a hack).

is there a link to an idiots guide to getting strated with this and also ensuring you don't brick the cmaera (in case that is possible)...
#36
zebedee35
sparklehedgehog
zebedee35
Can someone please explain the benefits/negatives of the 18-55 lens and this lens? Newbie here!

the 22mm is a prime fixed distance lens whereas the 18-55mm is a zoom lens you can zoom in and out with

So surely the one at argos for 199.99, with the 18-55mm lens is better....right?
This one comes with an adapter so it's ideal to have the 22mm prime walkaround/night time/party(it fits in your pocket so easily) and if you need some zoom fit a EF lens with the adapter.
#37
neonic
Tonk3h
Very tempted by this, however, it appears that the 22mm pancake lens selection DOES NOT include the speedlite flash? Might be an issue for some people?

I reckon speedflash is included in ALL Canon EOS M bundles...

Also,
Box Contains
EOS M Body
Camera Cover R-F-4
Strap EM-100DB
Battery Charger LC-E12E
Power Cord (for EUR DC)
Battery Pack LP-E12(OTH)
Battery Cover
Interface Cable IFC-400PCU (for USB Connection)
EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
Lens Cap E-43
Lens Dust
Cap EB x2
Mount Adapter EF-EOS M
Speedlite 90EX
Soft Case Speedlite 90EX


frogbog
I want to know too.. i've got a budget of £250 max and need a good camera to replace my trustworthy Panasonic fz38... so which camera should I go for? Any recommendations??

I had this budget and decided to go with a refurbished Fuji X-M1...

Hows that working out for you?

I ordered one on the £399 3 lens Amazon lightning deal, but still awaiting delivery.

Did I get a bargain still, or is this better?!
#38
I also bought the 18-55 kit from argos to pick up today as I'm starting to doubt the 22mm lens package has the same contents in box as the description after clicking 18-55 switch on amazon site.

Busy looking on Canon site

edit I'll keep both as 22mm one you get adapter / I'll hopefully have 2 speedlite 90 by the looks of it and 2 lens for £406



Edited By: dontasciime on Dec 04, 2014 12:06: s
#39
Gotta
zebedee35
sparklehedgehog
zebedee35
Can someone please explain the benefits/negatives of the 18-55 lens and this lens? Newbie here!

the 22mm is a prime fixed distance lens whereas the 18-55mm is a zoom lens you can zoom in and out with

So surely the one at argos for 199.99, with the 18-55mm lens is better....right?
This one comes with an adapter so it's ideal to have the 22mm prime walkaround/night time/party(it fits in your pocket so easily) and if you need some zoom fit a EF lens with the adapter.

Thanks for your response, much appreciated.

Though to buy a EF lens separately is about the same price as the camera though....right? Meaning if i did need zoom id go for the argos one....
#40
I have had some very dissapointing experiences with cameras that dont have an optical view finder. I go skiing and also enjoy other outdoor pursuits. I have not yet found a camera were the glare has been overcome and you can see what you are taking in very sunny conditions without an optical viewfinder. How does this cope?

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