Canon LEGRIA HF21 / 64GB / 15x Optical Zoom / 2.7" Multiangle LCD / Camcorder RRP £999.99 now only £499.99 @ Play - HotUKDeals
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Canon LEGRIA HF21 / 64GB / 15x Optical Zoom / 2.7" Multiangle LCD / Camcorder RRP £999.99 now only £499.99 @ Play

£499.99 @ Play.Com
Cracking price for this; elsewhere this is slling for: - Amazon £879.99 eXpansys UK £919.99 dabs.com £929.24 BT Shop £929.24 YesAsia.com £1257.38 Key Features: 64GB Dual Flash Memory Compact…
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Cracking price for this; elsewhere this is slling for: -
Amazon £879.99
eXpansys UK £919.99
dabs.com £929.24
BT Shop £929.24
YesAsia.com £1257.38

Key Features:
64GB Dual Flash Memory
Compact design
Dynamic OIS
Canon HD Camera System
Video Snapshot
Instant AF, Face Detection and 25p Cinema Mode
Low Light and Night modes
Pre REC and Quick Start
3.3MP stills, Dual Shot and Photo Burst
Optional accessories
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Shoot a full day in Full HD

An ultra-light, compact High Definition (HD) camcorder for shooting superb quality movies simply and easily, the LEGRIA HF21 packs in a whole host of great features into a very small space. These include powerful processing with high speed focusing, Face Detection technology, 15x Canon optical zoom lens with dynamic range Optical Image Stabilisation, and huge dual flash memory. Combined with a range of fun and creative options, such as Video Snapshot and 25p Cinema Mode the LEGRIA HF21 lets you easily capture the stories of life in original, fun and exciting ways with the ultimate in vivid image quality.

Further features of the HF21
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Astonishing High Definition & More creative options with 15x optical zoom lens
The combination of a full HD 3.3 Megapixel CMOS sensor and silent HD 15x zoom video lens produces astonishing high definition within a compact body. The full HD CMOS sensor has low power consumption, is sensitive to low light and provides brilliant colour balance for the ultimate in image quality. The versatility of the big zoom lens means you can really explore your creative options and get up close and personal, for example at sporting events or concerts.

Smooth, professional looking movies & High speed, precision focusing

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The Optical Image Stabiliser compensates for almost every kind of movement so you can get smooth professional-looking movies without blurring, even if you're new to shooting video. You can easily switch from Standard Mode to Dynamic Range when you want to stabilise hand shake on the move, for example when shooting from a moving car or when walking or climbing up and down stairs, ensuring clearly visible, shake free movies.

Create a simple multi-shot movie in minutes
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You can create wonderful multi-shot movies during either recording or playback with Video Snapshot mode. When shooting, each clip is set to 4 seconds long (the average length of a clip on television), so you only record short interesting clips of footage. You can also capture 4 second snapshot clips when playing back existing footage. Either way these clips can be combined together in a playlist and played back instantly without the need for further editing.

Create a simple multi-shot movie in minutes
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You can create wonderful multi-shot movies during either recording or playback with Video Snapshot mode. When shooting, each clip is set to 4 seconds long (the average length of a clip on television), so you only record short interesting clips of footage. You can also capture 4 second snapshot clips when playing back existing footage. Either way these clips can be combined together in a playlist and played back instantly without the need for further editing.
#2
Very good price, and camera, shame its not a 3ccd camera, otherwise I would have snapped it up!
#3
Argh - just ordered a XR105 ... this is a great price!
#4
Has anyone got this? If so what is the low light performance like?
1 Like #5
foolsgold99;8653108
Has anyone got this? If so what is the low light performance like?


No, but there s plenty of stuff to look at on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canon+HF21&aq=f
#6
I'm very tempted. Someone put me off this quickly!
#7
surahman
Very good price, and camera, shame its not a 3ccd camera, otherwise I would have snapped it up!


What does that mean?
1 Like #8
foolsgold99
What does that mean?


3ccd means, that there are three individual sensors for red, blue and green,and the result is very good colour production.

Most, if not all broadcast cameras have 3ccd, but they are very expensive.

I have a 3ccd camcorder, which is sd, not hd. Waiting for a good one with a good lens and brand with 3ccd before i upgrade.

Do some reading on the web and you will see what i mean.....
#9
Cheers.

Had a look at some of the footage from this camcorder and decided to go for it.
#10
Just ordered 50 to put on eBay.

*Mod Edit: Post only serves to incite. Please refrain in future. Infracted for breach of Code of Conduct. (aScottishBloke)
#11
All electrical products are covered by a twelve month manufacturer's warranty. If your product develops a fault while under warranty, please contact Play.com and we will advise you where to send it for repair. It is a "return to base" warranty therefore there will be a delivery charge to return the product back to the relevant UK service centre.

Any purchase in the UK, you would return the product to the retailer, play have the above which isn't great. As Play is not a UK based company you are not covered under the Sale Of Goods Act 1979, if things go wrong, you could be up shiit creek. Personally I wouldn't buy a high value item having read many horror stories, I do buy loads of DVDs etc from them.
#12
Sephiroth
Just ordered 50 to put on eBay.


oh that's original..... it would probably be funny if it hadn't been posted on a million other deals......probably?!.:whistling:
#13
Here's the Which? review for the HF20 which is identical except that it has 32Gb rather than 64Gb onboard. For the price, this is (according to Which?) the best camcorder out there. There are only 2 better, but they cost £1200. Note that the Which? review price for the HF20 is £800, so, yes this looks like an excellent deal. I will check with the ubergrupennfuhrer to see if I'm allowed to buy one . . .


The Canon HF20 is an excellent choice for an HD camcorder, wowing our testers with its superb image quality and a generous selection of features. It’s not one of the cheapest models around, but its strong test performance makes it a firm Best Buy.

HF20 has a built-in flash memory of 32GB (enough for around three hours of footage at the highest quality setting) and also gives you the option of recording to memory card. It’s similar to the cheaper Canon HF200, which records to memory card only.

Weighing 396g, the HF20 is fairly light for an HD camcorder. Standard-definition models tend to weigh even less, but the HF20 is still light enough to hold comfortably.

The camcorder has a very compact design – in fact, it’s so slim that those with larger hands may find it a little fiddly to hold.

Given its size, it’s not surprising to see that Canon has stripped back certain features. There’s no viewfinder, for example. This can make composing shots with a steady hand much trickier, as you have to use the LCD screen. The screen itself is bright and clear, but viewing it in very bright sunlight can be rather tricky, as it tends to reflect the glare of the sun.

For such a compact camcorder, it’s nice to see that the HF20 has a x15 optical zoom lens. This zoom range can’t compete with the larger zooms possible on standard-definition camcorders, but it’s generous enough for an HD model, letting you get closer to more distant subjects.

The zoom lens benefits from a built-in optical image stabiliser. Our testers found that this did a great job of limiting the effects of shaky hands, with no impact on image quality.

Video quality sets it apart from standard-definition camcorders, and it holds its own against most of the HD camcorders we’ve tested to date.

In bright natural daylight the HF20 captures detailed, vibrant videos with excellent colour reproduction. In artificial light the HF20 maintains its colour accuracy, and shadow and tone are captured superbly.

The 3.9Mp sensor does a great job of capturing sharp, detailed videos. Moving objects appear smooth and fluid, and panning shots display little of the juddering effect that can spoil the footage from some camcorders.

The HF20 copes well in low light conditions, though you may find that footage captured in dim light suffers just a little from graininess. This isn’t unusual for a camcorder.

Our testers found the HF20’s autofocus system to be fast and accurate. In challenging panning shots across landscapes the autofocus copes well, and it also handles zooming and panning shots in challenging low light conditions without difficulty.

Audio quality is generally good. There’s an internal microphone, and you have the option to attach an external mic. You can manually control either microphone to alter the strength and sensitivity of the sound recording.

The HF20’s still image quality is decent, but the camcorder doesn’t quite match up to a dedicated digital camera. Taking still pictures can be a little frustrating due to the slow shutter speed of the HF20 – after pressing the shutter button, there’s a noticeable lag while the camcorder focuses and captures a shot.

Pros: very good video image quality, fast autofocus, compact, x15 zoom

Cons: quite expensive, slow shutter speed in still image mode, no viewfinder
#14
Thanks for the nod on this, been looking at HD camcorders for about 9 months now, and never known what budget and features i really wanted.

However, i have a mate who has a pre-decessor of this model from 2 years ago, and it is AWESOME..he paid £649 on amazon for his back then the canon HF100 (see it on canon's site...) so seeing this price, he new functionality it is the right camera at the right price at the right time for me. Plus over 5 hours shooting time on a battery is amazing.

Look forward to getting it and setting it up :-)
#15
Nice camera and I'm very tempted. This video put me off http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xzDd3EA3JU I wouldn't be expecting that kind of juddering from a Camera worth £1000. It also clicks when it's finished zooming.

No denying though compared to other prices for the same product it is a bargain.
#17
such a shame about the poor low light performance... I agree with the trusted review that the Panasonic HDC-TM300 is much better... you can get them for around £750-800 so the Canon is considerably cheaper at only £800. that's the tough trade off... save £200-300 or get a camcorder with much better performance and PQ when the lighting conditions aren't great. I'd really like to get more people's thoughts on this as this camcorder seemed a seriously good option at that price.... my procrastinating will probably see it sell out before I make a decision anyway.

am leaning towards spending more for the Panny.... it has a viewfinder too which helps when shooting in bright sunshine.
#18
Wow half price! Have been looking for a camera for a long time, just to shoot stuff of the kids, nothing too professional. Is low light really an issue for an amateur do you think guys?
#19
foolsgold99
I'm very tempted. Someone put me off this quickly!


It says LEGRIA on it

makes me think of the Austin Allegro
#20
got excited for a bit as thought this was the hfs 21, still good price voted hot:thumbsup:
#21
It's really only the low light performance that was holding me back.

Judging by some of the youtube vids though it seems quite good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY-itBrZkFI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-jYJcZv8no

I've has the SD FS100 and one of the great things that I like about it is it's pocket size. This camera is also a similar size. I don't need a viewfinder as I've never had trouble using the screen
#22
Thsi is the qulity my mate gets at night using the older
Canon HF 100

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5Gpqi4YuU

impressive i think
#23
Munchie75
Thsi is the qulity my mate gets at night using the older
Canon HF 100

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL5Gpqi4YuU

impressive i think


Yip, that seems good for me. This is a mega hot deal. Best price by far.
#24
low light performance held me back from buying this one last year. S few of this years's models have back-lit sensors to improve low light performance. Haven't yet been able to confirm that this really helps low light performance.
#25
I have the Canon HF100 looking at the comparisons the HF100 may be still better but in built memory!! anyone got any clues on this!

is it worth upgrade!! have to low light aint great at all on most HD flash recording maybe the pana better

Dont forget Quidco get 0.5% !
#26
The Ubergruppenfuhrer approved - ordered one :-).
Thanks a bunch for the original post.
Oh, and heat added :-)
#27
Smartbuyer;8659352
low light performance held me back from buying this one last year. S few of this years's models have back-lit sensors to improve low light performance. Haven't yet been able to confirm that this really helps low light performance.

Unfortunately in the compact camera market the Sony backlit sensors haven't really shown much of an improvement in high ISO although the improvement may be more noticeable in camcorders.

John
#28
Or should I get the Panasonic FZ35 which I have been told produce amazing pictures but also above average video. In low light, the larger camera len is suppose to produce slightly better quality video than most sub £800 dedicated HD camcorder.

I also like the fact that it save me carrying both a camcorder and camera for holidays.
#29
oceanblue1;8669746
Or should I get the Panasonic FZ35 which I have been told produce amazing pictures but also above average video. In low light, the larger camera len is suppose to produce slightly better quality video than most sub £800 dedicated HD camcorder.

I also like the fact that it save me carrying both a camcorder and camera for holidays.


That's a difficult question to which there's no easy answer although I'd say if you're mainly shooting stills with a few videos stick with a camera but if it's mainily video I'd stick with a camcorder. I wouldn't say the FZ35 produces amazing stills as it's a small sensored bridge camera, it does have a versatile zoom range, decent autofocus and video mode but for still pictures it's going to have poor low light performance due to the small sensor. It can produce good pictures in good light but so can most cameras.

In video terms the FZ35 does have quite a large sensor at 1/2.33in compared to 1/4in for the Canon here but it doesn't tend to be as simple as that and if video is your main focus I'd stick with a camcorder.

I'm very much a stills person but I do like to have a bit of video on the side as it can be useful. When I switched to DSLRs there was no option for video so I opted for one of the Canon HDV camcorders to take along with me which was a total waste of money as I barely used it, I didn't like the controls, the setup, the tiny sensor and lack of lenses. Now I use a Panasonic GH1 which is mainly a stills camera but it's also one of the best video capable cameras, thanks to its comparatively massive sensor (4/3in) it has very good low light performance as well as being able to couple just about any lens available. However I do see a lot of complaints about video features most of which I'm not familiar with as I'm not a video person and aside for specific uses such as shallow depth of field or low light, many still seem to recommend sticking with a decent camcorder.

I also have an LX3 which is closer to the FZ35 for image quality although the LX3 has the advantage of a slightly larger sensor and much brighter lens, I've generally been quite happy with its video performance though. Generally the only complaints have been the poor audio and lack of zoom, despite that I've used it more for video than I have my dedicated camcorder simply because the video is there at a twist of a dial. So personally I much prefer a good stills camera with reasonably video capability, it depends what you're after as to which device is the better choice.

John
#30
Johnmcl7, thx for the very informative answer.

I have heard very good things about the GH1 as both a still camera & video, but at over £1000, its out of most ppl's price range.

The LX3 is more interesting as it is so compact. Does it have the same disadvantage as the FZ35 which limits video to 30 minutes only? I know the FZ38 have no such restriction but are worried about the US warranty for the UK.

Still, at £250, would you not say the FZ35 comes quite close to HF21's outdoor HD capability and in low light indoor, it actually beats it?
#31
oceanblue1;8670131
Johnmcl7, thx for the very informative answer.

I have heard very good things about the GH1 as both a still camera & video, but at over £1000, its out of most ppl's price range.


Of course, my point was more that the GH1 has much better video capability than the FZ35 yet people have fairly major complaints about the video on the GH1 against sub-1K camcorders so in turn I'm not convinced the FZ35 fares that well video wise. The difficulty is I'm not a video person so it's hard for me to give you a balanced view, I do believe camcorders still very much have their place and it really needs a video orientated person to put their side of the argument.

The LX3 is more interesting as it is so compact. Does it have the same disadvantage as the FZ35 which limits video to 30 minutes only? I know the FZ38 have no such restriction but are worried about the US warranty for the UK.

It's actually less, just ten minutes in HD mode - the 30 minutes as you're probably aware is due to Panasonic wanting to avoid paying tax as with that limit the device isn't classed as a camcorder. I was more bringing up the LX3 because it's the closest I have to the FZ35 rather than recommending it because as a general purpose camera it's lack of telephoto is a problem plus its video is more basic (m-jpeg only, no controls). I think you're right to be concerned about warranty, when buying the GH1 and the 7-14mm micro 4/3 lens I did look at buying from Japan and the US which were substantially cheaper at the time but as far as I could see the warranty would only be valid in the original country which I decided wasn't worth the potential nightmare it could be if the camera/lens failed.

Still, at £250, would you not say the FZ35 comes quite close to HF21's outdoor HD capability and in low light indoor, it actually beats it?

It's difficult to define 'quality' as it's not a simple scale, there's many different aspects to it and simple things like the fixed autogaincontrol on the GH1 makes it quite a bit poorer than many camcorders. Even with the LX3's brighter lens and larger sensor its indoor video is not as good as I thought it would be given its much bigger sensor (compared to a camcorder), looking at low light HF21 videos it looks not bad to me in comparison. I don't think the LX3 would be doing any better and bear in mind its lens lets in twice as much light as the FZ35. Although the camcorders have smaller sensors they have better video processing hardware plus the Pansonic's CCD sensor (as with any CCD sensor) suffers from streaking which some people find a real problem. Here's an example:

http://www.vimeo.com/4724263

It's particularly noticeable in low light as most light sources will be bright but it occurs in daytime as well:

http://www.vimeo.com/8084035

Of course it's very much up to you - if you look at the FZ35 video samples and are quite happy with the quality then it's probably a good choice but as I dip occasionally into video forums and see the world from the other side I'm very aware that camcorders still very much have a place.

John
#32
Did anyone go for this deal? Could you give some feedback? Would you recommend it?
Cheers guys
#33
neardark03
Did anyone go for this deal? Could you give some feedback? Would you recommend it?
Cheers guys


Mine arrived on Wednesday and I am very happy with it. Will be taking it on cruise with me on Sunday to test it out fully. In photo mode can manage just under 4 pictures a second (in good light) about 2 when using flash.

Would recommend at this price.
#34
DaveIB
Mine arrived on Wednesday and I am very happy with it. Will be taking it on cruise with me on Sunday to test it out fully. In photo mode can manage just under 4 pictures a second (in good light) about 2 when using flash.

Would recommend at this price.


I'm still touing with getting one anfter getting cold feet and canclling my order.

How do you find it in low light?

Any chance that you could upload an indoor shot you youtube before you go on your cruise? :)
#35
After looking extensively at the reviews online I took the plunge!:w00t:
This is going to be a long weekend, waiting for it to arrive!
#36
This is now £449.99 as there is a £50 cashback offer available..

http://media.play.com/ContentDocs/Canon%20-%20LEGRIA_T&C%27S+claim%20form.pdf
#37
DrAllsopp
This is now £449.99 as there is a £50 cashback offer available..

http://media.play.com/ContentDocs/Canon%20-%20LEGRIA_T&C%27S+claim%20form.pdf


Ha, what a con. Play have put the price up by £50!
#38
foolsgold99
Ha, what a con. Play have put the price up by £50!


What I meant was that this item should be listed in the title as £449.99 with cashback.

It is £499.99 but since the 1st June there is now a £50 cashback rebate which can be applied taking this to £449.99
#39
DrAllsopp
What I meant was that this item should be listed in the title as £449.99 with cashback.

It is £499.99 but since the 1st June there is now a £50 cashback rebate which can be applied taking this to £449.99


But it is now £550 on Play without the cashback. All that they have done is raise the price to counteract the Canon cahsback offer.
#40
foolsgold99
But it is now £550 on Play without the cashback. All that they have done is raise the price to counteract the Canon cahsback offer.


When I checked it was £500. Like you say, they have upped it to £550 to counter the cashback. That sucks, shoddy behaviour from play.com!

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