Carrera Subway Limited Edition Hybrid Bike 2012 -20" - Half Price £199.99 delivered @ Halfords - HotUKDeals
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Decent bike for under 200 quid....

CARRERA SUBWAY LIMITED EDITION HYBRID BIKE 2012

The Carrera Subway Limited Edition 20" Hybrid Bike is designed with a lightweight 7005 alloy frame for a faster easier ride. With Shimano 21-speed gearing; offering reliable shifting in all conditions, Powerful Tektro V-Brakes; for consistent and powerful braking performance and lightweight double wall alloy rims with slick tyres for reduced rolling resistance and increased speed.

Weight - 14.2kg

Frame and Forks

A strong and lightweight 7005 alloy frame with a Hi-Tensile Steel fork provides a fast and easy ride.

Transmission

A reliable and smooth drivetrain is produced by the Shimano 21 speed gearing with a Tourney 7 speed rear derailleur and integrated trigger style gear and brake levers.

Brakes, Tyres and Wheels

Great grip is created by the slick CST tyres, with powerful Tektro V-brakes combined with quick release wheels featuring double wall rims.

Components

The Carrera Finishing kit incorporates a 90mm stem as well as a 670mm wide riser handlebar with a comfortable velofoam saddle with an integrated headset.

SPECIFICATION OF THE CARRERA SUBWAY LIMITED EDITION MOUNTAIN BIKE 2012

Frame: Lightweight 7005 Aluminium Frame
Fork: Hi-tensile steel
Brakes: Tektro Alloy V-Brakes
Number Of Gears: 21 Speed
Chainset: Suntour
Rear Derailleur: Shimano
Gear Shifters: Shimano Altus
Tyres: CST 26? hybrid tyres
Wheelset: Double Wall rims laced onto Alloy QR Hubs
Finishing Kit: Carrera Branded
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#1
http://www.thebikelist.co.uk/images/models/Carrera/2012/Carrera-Subway-Limited-Edition_12/Subway%20limited%20ed.jpg
1 Like #2
To me this sounds like a mountain bike with cheap V brakes but then given racing wheels so taking away the whole idea of it being a mountain bike as its more really just suited to staying on road instead of ever going offroad. lol Limited edition means there was a limited number of them made hmm i wonder why... to me it does seem a good thing choosing to limit the amount made.
3 Likes #3
A mountain bike frame with racing wheels you say?...that sounds much like a hybrid bike, which is what this is....strangely.
1 Like #4
Cold as halfords can't put bikes together properly and the "bike experts" are 16 year old school leavers with no clue whatsoever.

Sorry OP. Halfrauds are not worth it.
#5
ProPiers
Cold as halfords can't put bikes together properly and the "bike experts" are 16 year old school leavers with no clue whatsoever.Sorry OP. Halfrauds are not worth it.
Self assembly is easy enough. Hard to find an alloy-framed/wheeled Carrera anywhere else for under £200. Hot.
1 Like #6
wood33pecker
Hard to find an alloy-framed/wheeled Carrera anywhere else for under £200. Hot.

That's because only Halfords sell them! Not sure about this model but other Carrera bikes have been good value when on sale.

Edited By: belch on Nov 15, 2012 23:30
#7
Been looking at this bike for the past couple of days. It's been this price months ago though.
#8
I used to ride a better specked one of these, had disk breaks. It was more mountain bike than road racer, so not a fast hybrid. But I commuted sixteen miles a day on it. Good price
1 Like #10
Check every nut and bolt is tight once you've got it home. I like carrera bikes, and they are great value if you time it right when you buy them, but I've bought from 3 different halfords stores and all three bikes have practically fallen apart in a matter of weeks due to nearly every nut and bolt not being tight. My next one will be taken straight to an independent bike shop for a real 'safety' check.
#11
mocmocamoc
I used to ride a better specked one of these, had disk breaks. It was more mountain bike than road racer, so not a fast hybrid. But I commuted sixteen miles a day on it. Good price

Yeah I have that one now. It's been a reliable, sturdy bike for the couple of years i've had it but a bit heavier and slower than I'd like.
2 Likes #12
D4VPC
Check every nut and bolt is tight once you've got it home. I like carrera bikes, and they are great value if you time it right when you buy them, but I've bought from 3 different halfords stores and all three bikes have practically fallen apart in a matter of weeks due to nearly every nut and bolt not being tight. My next one will be taken straight to an independent bike shop for a real 'safety' check.

I'd suggest a basic safety check is something you should be perfectly capable of doing yourself. It's standard practice for me before every ride.

The issue here is that some Halfords are poor... And some are excellent. There are hundreds of stores and saying they are all bad is pretty ignorant really. Find a good one, speak to the bike hut staff, and I'm positive you'll be perfectly happy with your purchase. Learn some basic maintenance and you'll be fine.

This is a decent price for a good hybrid, try finding a better specced hybrid for less.
1 Like #13
Might be worth noting that if you choose to assemble it yourself Halfords will ask you to sign a disclaimer which excludes part of the guarantee - best option is probably to have it assembled by them then carry out a full check.
#14
Not a bad bike at all for the money. As it is a hybrid it has no suspension adding needless weight and whilst it does have disc brakes unless you are going to pay for hydraulics you will only be putting more superfluous weight onto your bike. This bike is for those who are honest with themselves about what they are going to use the bike for.
1 Like #15
If you google some of the cached pages from Halfords you will see that ALL their bikes are on offer ALL THE TIME.. They never sell this bike for £400..

Here's an example:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tgnR61KpY70J:www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_892925_langId_-1_categoryId_165534+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

This is cached from end of October and on special offer for £229 - SAVE £170... Save my A$$.

Avoid Halfords, awful company.
#16
Would this be Ok for a woman to ride or should i pay more for a woman's bike?
My wife used to have an appollo bike but it was so heavy and creaky it put her off cycling alltogether.
She's agreed that if i get her a better bike she'll give it another go........so it's important to me and the kids to get the best one (within budget!)

I used to have a carrerra years ago and it seemed a decent bike then so hope this is suitable.
Any thoughts experts?;)
#17
It doesn't seem that good a deal to me.
1 Like #18
If I was looking for a cheap bike for commuting/tow-paths i'd spend my money on something like this from Decathlon. It's only £150, so you can spend the rest on a good lock.
And they have a good reputation - (see cycling forums)
#19
Was going to post this when unseen it last night. It's an okay deal. The bike comes without suspension.
1 Like #20
I'd say this is a solid bike that doesn't pretend to be what it isn't. Any kind of suspension isn't really worth having around this price mark. It'll be miles better than anything out of their Apollo range. But as others have said just make sure you get it properly set up - maybe even at another local bike shop if you're not sure about doing it yourself.

The Decathlon above unfortunately uses grip shifters which aren't very popular, but then again some people seem to get along with it fine. It's also a full steel frame (compared to aluminium with a steel fork on the Carrera) which would make it somewhat heavier although it doesn't seem to mention the weight anywhere on the site - I could be wrong.

IMO you'd be hard pressed to find a better bike for the money, but there's no reason to rush in to it, I'm sure you'll find plenty of folk on the net who've used this before and can give their testimonies :)

Edited By: LetoKynes on Nov 16, 2012 10:28
#21
full adult suspensin bike in tesco less than 80

stronger too
#22
I can assure you all that this is not a £400 bike at all. I bought it earlier this year when it was on offer AT Halfords down from £289. Its as heavy as Stonehenge. COLD
#23
wonkydonky
full adult suspensin bike in tesco less than 80

stronger too

Complete tosh.

Heavier, poor components, only good if you want a bike which you don't mind if someone nicks it.
#24
raskar
I can assure you all that this is not a £400 bike at all. I bought it earlier this year when it was on offer AT Halfords down from £289. Its as heavy as Stonehenge. COLD

The quoted weight is standard for this price point.
#25
Basic safety checks are done by myslelf. I don't class checking the bolts that hold the disc brake to the wheel, or the suspension pivot joint isn't going to lose its bolt altogether is 'basic'. My lastest banshee, we checked the bike top to bottom, and we came across 4 bolts that weren't loose. I totally agree that not all stores are going to be the same, but 3 out of 3 isn't an ideal track record.
Just sharing my experience to advise others to check just to make sure.
My bikes have always been great after the initial teething problems, that I feel could be prevented by a proper safety check, that in my 3 past purchases halfords haven't been able to offer
#26
There is 3% cashback from Quidco. I haven't tried one of these bikes, but the consensus from discussions that I've seen on them is that they are bikes, rather than "Bike-Shaped Objects". Customer service from Halfords can be good and bad, it depends on who you get.
#27
I personally do not recommend bikes from Halfords - I have nothing but problems with them. Poor quality and poor service. My wife bought a Giant bike from an independent shop which turns out to be far better quality - if you buy a bike at a "bargain" price, you are heading for a high maintenance period that would become expensive in the long run. I am speaking from experience, it is as simple as that!
#28
waby1234

Complete tosh.

Heavier, poor components, only good if you want a bike which you don't mind if someone nicks it.
I presumed they were trolling?

Decent enough price for a 'get around' bike.

I've got a fairly similar 'Specialized Globe Vienna' (got 700c wheels, but otherwise about the same spec) and I'm very happy with it for getting around town. Now got a better hybrid for doing decent riding and distance, but still use the cheaper one in town etc on a daily basis.

Usually Carrera bikes are decent enough providing you check they're done up, as mentioned.
And while my Vienna was a bit lighter as standard, with the guards, panniers etc it's probably a similar weight to this - and I don't find it a problem.

I'd still be tempted to go second hand (I paid £115 for mine in barely-used condition), but if you want new, this seems a decent enough deal.
If you do want to hit a few trails, as well as for general 'winter' use, the fatter/smaller diameter wheels compared to some hybrids may make sense, as well as the fairly tough looking frame.
#29
D4VPC
Check every nut and bolt is tight once you've got it home. I like carrera bikes, and they are great value if you time it right when you buy them, but I've bought from 3 different halfords stores and all three bikes have practically fallen apart in a matter of weeks due to nearly every nut and bolt not being tight. My next one will be taken straight to an independent bike shop for a real 'safety' check.

My experiences of 2 Independant bike shops has dreadful. A childs "fun" bike with a tyre out of round considered OK. A £200 + bike with gears that did not work even after 4 returns and welded aluminium rims "stepped" at the weld, never resolved. Give me Halfords any day. Never any problems with bikes from them.
#30
pluggy
I personally do not recommend bikes from Halfords - I have nothing but problems with them. Poor quality and poor service. My wife bought a Giant bike from an independent shop which turns out to be far better quality - if you buy a bike at a "bargain" price, you are heading for a high maintenance period that would become expensive in the long run. I am speaking from experience, it is as simple as that!
You're right to a point, but don't dismiss Halfords, their Boardman range is excellent, I've got the carbon frame road bike and it's superb for the money, like you, I have a Giant for a commuter hack, also got a Carrera Kraken for throwing around the woods, the best specked bike for the money when I bought it, but had to put it together myself as the Halford's job was terrible. Also got a Kona Band Wagon for a bit of winter fitness, all very different but all do the job they're intended for very well.
Just my thoughts.......
#31
Cheers for this, ordered in Liverpool. Had my bike nicked last year and stupidly didn't realise I wasn't covered under my house insurance. Been looking for a good deal ever since.
#32
Halfords are idiots and refuse to take the blame (the forks broke with 6 months but becuase my bike was dirty (I ride it in the winter) they assume I mis-used it) and when they put your bike back together incorrectly (they put the innur tube lock bolt on the inside not outside the rim) causing a noticable bulge which I had to fix myself in the shop as the staff didnlt have a clue and when I complained Halfords just said I was lying and so sent it back for them to have a look...aaa hello, how can I show you a problem for an issue that I had to fix.
#33
Note, previous note only goes to Halfords Airdrie who orginally asssembed my bike and Halfords East Kilbride who caused the above.

One exception was Halfords Bristol who had a helpful man who knew his stuff when my friend was trying to buy a childs bike.
#34
Dear Sir/Madam,

Please find a copy of the mail I sent you on the 18th February 2011 to which I had no reply.


"I purchased a Carrera TDF from your Airdrie Halfords store on the 24th August 2010. Bar snow or heavy rain I use it to commute to work every and last Friday (11/02) when cycling home the chain snapped. I purchased a new chain from your East Kilbride store and fitted it that night only to find when I started to give the cycle a quick clean that I noticed that there was a large crack in the forks. The next day I duly took it to your Halfords branch who advised on bringing it in after a phone call. After a 15 minute wait whilst the manager was serving another customer I had to go and left it with my name and phone number and was told I would be called on what would happen. I never received a reply so phoned the next day to be told I'll have to wait the next day for the manager (Keiren) to come in.

Again the following day I had to chase what was happening whereby I was told again that I would be given a call back after he arrived at 11:30 but again by 16:30 I had to phone back where I was told some new forks would be ordered.

On Thursday (17/02) I chased to find out the timescale and Simon said he'll speak to Keiren who was off that day and phone me back at 12 the next day. Again this call was never received and I had to phone back whereby this time I was told it would take 5-10 working days to receive this part from when it was ordered.

Therefore if I get the bike back at the end of the week I would have spent £49 in train fares that I wouldn't have had to wait to receive a 5 month old cycle that has also thrown me in doubt of its quality. I appreciate that you wouldn't keep spare parts for all components but neither do Renault when I drop that off for repairs who wouldn't turn around with a 2 week repair time and would phone me back when told."


I now find myself going back to the store in respect of a broken freehub and again after not having a call back I have chased to find that you want to charge me £49.99 to replace this and hiding behind the 12 month guarantee that this must be applied. Along with my previous issues I find this frustrating as an item can still be deemed of poor quality in reference to its durability outside the guarantee within The Sale of Goods Act 1979. Not only this but I have purchased my childrens last three cycles from your stores so this throws it into doubt as why I should continue to do this.

I hope for a reply this time?


Regards,
#35
Dear Mr Burns
>
>Thank you for your email.
>
>I am sorry to note your comments regarding the problems you have experienced with your Carrera cycle.
>
>With regard to your initial email, your comments were passed on to the Store and the Store Manager advised us that attempts were made to contact you when they received the upgraded forks. When you then contacted the Store they realised that they had been provided with an incorrect number. The Store Manager also advised that, as a gesture of goodwill, the forks were provided under warranty even though, in their opinion, the cycle had received an impact.
>
>We would always look to our Stores in this type of concern to investigate and resolve any concerns with customers directly.
>
>I have contacted the Cycle Sales Manager at the East Kilbride Store and he has advised me that the wheel has been inspected and the problems are due to wear and tear. The wheel is extremely dirty and has been subject to heavy use. Due to the cycle now being outside it's warranty period, any repairs or replacements will be chargeable.
>
>With regard to your comments relating to the repair in February, if you had any concerns at this time then we would have advised you to return the cycle to the Store immediately. The problems could have then been inspected.
>
>Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused, however, we are unable to offer any further assistance in this instance.
>
>Kind Regards
>Margaret Davidson
>Customer Service Advisor
#36
Firstly, I'd like to express my surprise at your comment regarding the forks. You're stating that in the store managers opinion, that the cycle had received an impact to cause the damage to the forks. I own and ride the bike so know that there wasn't any significant impact and the only reason I noticed the damage was due to changing the chain that had just snapped and then cleaning it did I then find the damage. If it was due to a significant impact, then surely the wheel would have shown signs of this before the frame so to say it was a gesture of goodwill rather than the fact that the quality of a 6 month old frame 2 year warranty is questionable. If I didn't notice this crack and fatigue settled in further I could have easily had a serious injury.

Secondly, you're stating that the wheel problems are down to wear and tear. Now if you consider a key component such as the freehub, only has a lifespan of 14 months, then I strongly doubt the quality of your products. Yes the wheel is dirty but I could take a brand new bike and cycle it the first day in rain and then you would consider this heavy use? This bike has a claimed RRP of £449 but I believe this to be a marketing ploy as it has been in the £300 bracket ever since I purchased mine. This bike replaced a 14 year old Raleigh which admittedly was £500 in 1996, was of a better quality, but based on that provides a far superior annual cost.

If your closing offer is to charge me £50 for another inferior wheel then so be it but as I work in IT I will flood ever review website going with my experience and your replies and assure you that I will only use your store for reference for internet purchases in the future.
#37
Dear Ms Davidson

I picked up this wheel last night and on a quick inspection I noticed a bulge in the tyre. I queried this with your member of staff and as I looked at it further I found that whoever had fitted my inner tube back onto the wheel had left the threaded value screw on the INSIDE of the
wheel and not the outside to cause this bulge. Not only is this incompetent but as the tyre would not have been sitting in the rim correctly, this could have been dangerous as if I was to ride away without noticing this it could have quite easily fell away whilst going
around the corner causing me an injury to myself or into a path of a car. As for what appear to have been metal tyre levers used to scratch the new wheel was another issue which like the scratches and attempted mudguard fixes before are comparatively minor issues.



Edited By: McBurns on Nov 16, 2012 12:21
#38
Dear Mr Burns

Thank you for your email.

I am sorry you are unhappy with my previous reply and also for the problems you experienced on collection of your wheel.

I understand from the Sales Manager that the problem was rectified before you left the Store. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards
Margaret Davidson
Customer Service Advisor
#39
Ms Davidson, its now about inconvenience, it was initially about customer service and quality of goods. The problem with the wheel now turns to a safety issue for a company that also charges for a 'safety checks' service. It was only because I noticed the problem and in turn I fixed it (in fairness your employee started to try and fix it but I had to take over because he was doing it wrong) that the problem was rectified before I left the store. You wouldn't take a car for a repair to be expected to perform your own safety check before you left so why should a cycle be any different?

I can see no point in continuing this correspondence, I will forward on my experience through various media channels and consider this a lost to Halfords of my custom for myself, two cars and numerous cycles.

Regards
#40
Dear Miss Manfredi,

Further to this mail I have since discovered what the problem was. The claim that your store manager was 100% confident that the wheel was assembled correctly before leaving your store (even excluding the fact that I had noticed a bulge in the tyre caused by the treaded valve nut being incorrectly left on the inside of the rim), would have been due to the fact the the quick release mechanism was replaced in the new wheel in the incorrect order. This was noticed on a recent puncture when I took the wheel off only to find the concave washer was placed on the non-quick release side therefore answering the question as to why in may have seemed that it was tight when leaving your store. The whole release mechanism has to be completely unthreaded and re-assembled (with new spring added as the incorrect method broke this) to fix, something I have not done since picking the 'fixed' cycle up from your store.

Therefore in conclusion you did return a 14 month old cycle to me with two safety issues, one of the incorrectly fitted tyre (of which the tyre was slightly stretched so refitted when inflating the tyre had to be checked) and two, that of an incorrectly fitted wheel. On this occasion no accidents occurred but maybe I was lucky that I noticed the issues in time.

Regards

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