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Casio Celviano AP-450 Digital Piano for £689.00 (delivered) @ rimmersmusic

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Casio Celviano AP-450 Digital Piano Yes, the new x60 range is out, but there's not any fundamental changes - the action and sound engine is unchanged, just some additional options. The x50 range… Read More
Lester Burnham Avatar
2y, 7m agoFound 2 years, 7 months ago
Casio Celviano AP-450 Digital Piano

Yes, the new x60 range is out, but there's not any fundamental changes - the action and sound engine is unchanged, just some additional options.

The x50 range has been truly excellent - the new action that came in with the x50 range is common throughout the range (and the same in the new x60 range) and is well thought of, and easily a match for anything in this price range, and higher.

The AP-450 (and PX-850) are significant improvements in both the Celviano and Privia ranges (respectively) as polyphony is doubled (to 256) there's things like lid simulator, string / sympathetic resonance, key-off simulator, seamless sustain pedal.

A bargain at the RRP, but at this price (even understanding the x60 range is probably the reason behind these price drops) it's a steal.

Listed as from RockingRooster (Rimmers Music website), but also available on ChaseDirect - possibly others, and there's probably some price-matching deals to be had if you went in to your local music store.

Specification:-

Keyboard
Keys 88 Ebony and Ivory feel
Keyboard - Action Tri-sensor Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard II
Keyboard - Touch Response 3 sensitivity levels, off
Keyboard - Key Off Simulator Yes
Sound
Sound - Source Multi Dimensional Morphing AiR
Sound - Polyphony (maximum) 256
Tones
Tones - Built In 18 built-in tones: Grand Piano (Modern, Classic, Variation), Elec Piano, FM E. Piano, 60‘s E. Piano, Harpsichord, Vibraphone, Pipe Organ Jazz Organ, Elec Organ 1 & 2, Strings 1 & 2, Bass 1 & 2
Tones - Resonance Hammer, Damper, String
Tones - Lid Simulator Yes
Tones - Layer/Split Yes
Digital Effects
Reverb (4 types), Chorus (4 types), Brilliance, DSP (preset for some tones)
Music Library
Tunes 60 Music Library tunes
Song Expansion (User Tune) 10
Lessons
Function Part ON/OFF
Part Right Hand, Left Hand
Duet Mode Yes
Metronome
0,2,3,4,5,6 beats; tempo range: 20 bis 255
Recorder (Song Memory)
2 tracks, 1 song, app’ 5,000 notes
Pedals
Number 3 pedals (damper/soft/sostenuto)
Half-pedal Operation (damper) Yes
Key Transpose
25 steps (–12/+12 semitones)
Tuning Control
A4=440Hz ±99 cent
SD Memory Card Slot
Yes
MIDI
Yes
Other Functions and Features
GRAND PIANO Buttons (Modern, Classic), ELEC PIANO Button, Selectable Temperament Octave Shift, Operation Lock, Slide-type Keyboard Cover
Terminals
Headphones 2 (stereo standard)
Line OUT 2 (L/MONO, R; standard)
USB Yes
Speakers
Size 16 cm x 2.5 cm x 2
Amplifier 20W + 20W
4 speakers/ 2-way system Yes
Size W x D x H ( with stand)
1,377 x 427 x 840 mm
Weight ( with stand)
40.5kg
Accessories
AC Adaptor, Score Book, Headphones Hook
Stand
Included
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#1
How easy is it to record sound off this? Can i plug directly into a matantz or other type of sound recorder?
#2
Rendog
How easy is it to record sound off this? Can i plug directly into a matantz or other type of sound recorder?
Do you mean as in just recording audio, or something like midi?

You can record to WAV directly on the device, using a memory stick, I think, with the AP-450 / PX-850. Otherwise, you could take line out, and record using something like audacity on a PC / laptop - or any other sound recorder for that matter.
#4
Lester Burnham
Rendog
How easy is it to record sound off this? Can i plug directly into a matantz or other type of sound recorder?
Do you mean as in just recording audio, or something like midi?

You can record to WAV directly on the device, using a memory stick, I think, with the AP-450 / PX-850. Otherwise, you could take line out, and record using something like audacity on a PC / laptop - or any other sound recorder for that matter.

Thanks for the reply and info. Going to look at getting a digital piano. Yeah i just meant as wav files that could be edited on a pc or inserted into film editing software. Don't know a lot about sound but wanting to learn. Thanks.
#5
This looks great, but a little bit overkill for my 7 year old daughter who has just started lessons at school. What would you advise I get her to practice with at home? Up to £300ish...
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Macdory
This looks great, but a little bit overkill for my 7 year old daughter who has just started lessons at school. What would you advise I get her to practice with at home? Up to £300ish...
Well the entry level Casios (Privia or Celviano) are very good.

The PX-150 is the base Privia - but it's still a fair bit more than your budget. The entry level Celviano (the AP-250) is also being sold at a very good price (I got the special edition of it nearly a year ago) at typically just under £500. That's a very solid, entry level piano - younger brother to the AP-450. Same action and sound engine, although 128 polyphony rather than 256 - but then 128 is non-too-shabby either.

You may find either an AP-245 or AP-250 on the used market (or PX-150) for that matter, and they're very competent and a decent action.

Otherwise, new, and on absolute terms, for around £300 you're looking at the CDP range from Casio, and equivalents from, say, Yamaha.

And for what it's worth, about a year ago, when I was first looking at getting a digital piano (I already own an acoustic piano that's been mine for a good few decades), I was thinking of something like the CDP-120 - as really all I wanted was a representative action, and something to be able to use for silent practice (with headphones). But this time last year, Casio were selling a limited edition of the AP-250 (called the AP-245) at a heavily discounted price (just under £500), which is the price the AP-250 is being sold for, now. So at the time, I stretched my budget to go for the AP-245, because it's a reasonable jump from what's sold at around the £300 mark.

As to the used market, I've not been that swayed - most that I've seen are priced highly, and a fair bit out-of-date (considering what's being sold, now, and how competent entry level stuff is). But all the same, there's a reasonable degree of people buying one, it never being used, and people then wanting to recoup some of the money.

I think these days, Casio have made great strides into the entry level market, up to, say, around 1k. Kawai's recent ES100 is well thought of - but then is priced a little higher than the equivalent Casio - and realistically, it's probably a dead-heat between it and the PX-150. So for me, with a budget of anything up to around 1k, I'd buy a Casio, above that, either a Roland or Kawai (I can't get along with Yamaha's GHS or GH action - feels too synthetic and synth-like to me).
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Macdory
This looks great, but a little bit overkill for my 7 year old daughter who has just started lessons at school. What would you advise I get her to practice with at home? Up to £300ish...

Invest £500 on a new Casio AP-250 with bench and 4 year warranty, will last upto grade 5 if required http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/productCasio_AP250_Digital_Piano-499.00.html

Dont know how much your paying for lessons but a £500 purchase now is a drop in the ocean compared to the ongoing lesson costs.

Edited By: paulj48 on Dec 11, 2014 11:34
#8
Thanks both - given the choice would you get the AP245 or 250? Both at the same price at the moment ...
#9
Macdory
Thanks both - given the choice would you get the AP245 or 250? Both at the same price at the moment ...
If the same price, probably the 250.

They are identical, but if for nothing else, the 250 may have greater cache for resale.

Other than that, the best deal (say bundle) or terms (warranty - some vendors sell with additional warranty), or convenience, I'd say.

edit: just one thing to add - and it's easy to get into scope bloat, or budget bloat. Just over a year back, I was probably about to buy something like a Casio CDP-120 on an x-frame stand for silent practice - so pretty much the same kind of budget as you had initially. The special edition of the AP-245 for such a great price, was what tempted me to spend more and get one. But that said, had there been an AP-450 for £689 at the time, I would have stretched myself again.

But that said, it really does depend on any wiggle room in budget.

Edited By: Lester Burnham on Dec 11, 2014 12:26
#10
Macdory
Thanks both - given the choice would you get the AP245 or 250? Both at the same price at the moment ...

I'm led to believe they're exactly the same, I bought the AP245 from my local music shop for my 7 year old son last year and I learn on it as well.
#11
Lester Burnham
But that said, had there been an AP-450 for £689 at the time, I would have stretched myself again.But that said, it really does depend on any wiggle room in budget.

sort of agree but if the OP is stretching an allready stretched budget to £700 I'd recomend a visit to a local music store as there'll be more models in budget availale.

If £500 is the maximum though I'd buy the Casio all day long, also having a cabinet it also looks like a Piano rather than a keyboad on a stand so look better in my dinning room :)
#12
paulj48
Lester Burnham
But that said, had there been an AP-450 for £689 at the time, I would have stretched myself again.But that said, it really does depend on any wiggle room in budget.

sort of agree but if the OP is stretching an allready stretched budget to £700 I'd recomend a visit to a local music store as there'll be more models in budget availale.
Won't make any difference.

Nothing from any of the other makes, will get near the AP-450, for £689.

Don't get me wrong - it's not all about pure spec - because if it was, nothing would truly get near either for the price (consider polyphony, action, number of sensors, or the other value-adds from the Celvianos). Even accounting for peoples' preferences and inherent subjectivity, the x50 series (both Privia and Celviano) has been warmly received - well from everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing bias against Casio.
#13
Lester Burnham
paulj48
Lester Burnham
But that said, had there been an AP-450 for £689 at the time, I would have stretched myself again.But that said, it really does depend on any wiggle room in budget.
sort of agree but if the OP is stretching an allready stretched budget to £700 I'd recomend a visit to a local music store as there'll be more models in budget availale.
Won't make any difference.Nothing from any of the other makes, will get near the AP-450, for £689.Don't get me wrong - it's not all about pure spec - because if it was, nothing would truly get near either for the price (consider polyphony, action, number of sensors, or the other value-adds from the Celvianos). Even accounting for peoples' preferences and inherent subjectivity, the x50 series (both Privia and Celviano) has been warmly received - well from everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing bias against Casio.

Possibly last years model's reduced or an ex display at a local music shop (obviously only if the OP lives near one with a good selection) No point going in with £300 but if you have £700 burning a hole in your pocket he may have more options dont you agree?
#14
paulj48
Lester Burnham
paulj48
Lester Burnham
But that said, had there been an AP-450 for £689 at the time, I would have stretched myself again.But that said, it really does depend on any wiggle room in budget.
sort of agree but if the OP is stretching an allready stretched budget to £700 I'd recomend a visit to a local music store as there'll be more models in budget availale.
Won't make any difference.Nothing from any of the other makes, will get near the AP-450, for £689.Don't get me wrong - it's not all about pure spec - because if it was, nothing would truly get near either for the price (consider polyphony, action, number of sensors, or the other value-adds from the Celvianos). Even accounting for peoples' preferences and inherent subjectivity, the x50 series (both Privia and Celviano) has been warmly received - well from everyone who doesn't have a pre-existing bias against Casio.

Possibly last years model's reduced or an ex display at a local music shop (obviously only if the OP lives near one with a good selection) No point going in with £300 but if you have £700 burning a hole in your pocket he may have more options dont you agree?
No.

I don't think you'd get anything like as good for £700.

Casio are already producing very competitive models at their RRP. None of the other makes are producing triple sensor actions at these price points.

What sort of other digital piano you think you could get at a sale price of around £700 that's got anywhere near the spec of the AP-450?
banned#15
I just brought the same keyboard for £599 in FairDeal Music in Birmingham City Centre store sale. Vey happy with the cheaper deal.
Best to call them first as it was a store only offer.
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#16
Cheers for the help OP, bought the piano from Rimmers Leyland ex display for £599

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