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Acer S220HQLBrbd 21.5" Full HD LED Monitor £77.98 @ CCL Delivered

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Acer S Series monitors are very slim yet spacious displays that are great for multitasking and web browsing. High-def visuals leap to life thanks to Full HD resolution and an extremely high contrast r… Read More
Acer S Series monitors are very slim yet spacious displays that are great for multitasking and web browsing. High-def visuals leap to life thanks to Full HD resolution and an extremely high contrast r…
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MSI ARMOUR OC RX 580 8GB £231.99 @ CCLonline £231.63

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Remember when these were the hottest deals for the old gen well it's back newer and great price again for the top of the line amd well until vega come on amd. Can it go back to the top I want to be on… Read More
Remember when these were the hottest deals for the old gen well it's back newer and great price again for the top of the line amd well until vega come on amd. Can it go back to the top I want to be on…
puddles9999 Avatar6d, 20h agoFound 6 days, 20 hours ago7 Comments
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Yeah the clocks aren't even that good on this model 1366mhz I think I'd rather save myself £30 and get this RX 480 https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/msi-radeon-rx-480-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5-graphics-card/rx480armor8goc.html only 70mhz difference which could probably be closed with manual overclocking.
Or spend the same for this https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-asus-radeon-rx-480-rog-strix-oc-gaming-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-8000mhz-gddr5-1310mhz-gpu-2304-strea?utm_source=google%20shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KEQjwofHHBRDS0Pnhpef89ucBEiQASEp6LCzkK6nGajrlx_mHsKdnhakL4tpw3EKjW29lK_KikGoaAhBe8P8HAQ 50~mhz down on the clock speed but a hell of a lot nicer looking imo.
you beat me to it! the MSI 8GB 480 could easily achieve this performance with a mild Oc
Yeah :) Memory clocks also higher out of the box on the msi 480.

Edit : DOOM is free on the RX 480's I linked too :)

Edited By: adam45417 on Apr 23, 2017 11:32
you should add to the title that this is a pre-order,
and you should also say in the description the date that they expect these to be available
adam45417
Yeah the clocks aren't even that good on this model 1366mhz I think I'd rather save myself £30 and get this RX 480 https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/msi-radeon-rx-480-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5-graphics-card/rx480armor8goc.html only 70mhz difference which could probably be closed with manual overclocking.

Or spend the same for this
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-asus-radeon-rx-480-rog-strix-oc-gaming-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-8000mhz-gddr5-1310mhz-gpu-2304-strea?utm_source=google%20shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KEQjwofHHBRDS0Pnhpef89ucBEiQASEp6LCzkK6nGajrlx_mHsKdnhakL4tpw3EKjW29lK_KikGoaAhBe8P8HAQ 50~mhz down on the clock speed but a hell of a lot nicer looking imo.


you beat me to it! the MSI 8GB 480 could easily achieve this performance with a mild Oc

Edited By: adamspencer95 on Apr 23, 2017 11:28: add msi
Yeah the clocks aren't even that good on this model 1366mhz I think I'd rather save myself £30 and get this RX 480 https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/msi-radeon-rx-480-armor-oc-8gb-gddr5-graphics-card/rx480armor8goc.html only 70mhz difference which could probably be closed with manual overclocking.

Or spend the same for this
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-asus-radeon-rx-480-rog-strix-oc-gaming-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-8000mhz-gddr5-1310mhz-gpu-2304-strea?utm_source=google%20shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KEQjwofHHBRDS0Pnhpef89ucBEiQASEp6LCzkK6nGajrlx_mHsKdnhakL4tpw3EKjW29lK_KikGoaAhBe8P8HAQ 50~mhz down on the clock speed but a hell of a lot nicer looking imo.
Scan/ebuyer have stock for £7 more...
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Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 Ti AMP! 11GB Graphics Card - £706.86 @ CCL

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I expect cold votes because you can buy 20 PS4's for the same price which can do blistering 2 fps at 4K, but this is around the same price as FE 1080 Ti cards. Its cheaper than the 1080 Ti MSI Armor, Read More
I expect cold votes because you can buy 20 PS4's for the same price which can do blistering 2 fps at 4K, but this is around the same price as FE 1080 Ti cards. Its cheaper than the 1080 Ti MSI Armor,
mamboboy Avatar1w, 1d agoFound 1 week, 1 day ago7 Comments
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Uncommon.Sense
I posted the Gigabtyte Nvidia GTX 1080Ti GAMING OC card which is slighty less at £675, and even that is struggling, this is a great deal for a Zotac card.
Personally think Zotac just carries a bit of a taboo in the UK market... shame really as they're decent cards at the end of the day!
why not go all in for the The Hydro GFX 1080 Ti and its radiator ?
I posted the Gigabtyte Nvidia GTX 1080Ti GAMING OC card which is slighty less at £675, and even that is struggling, this is a great deal for a Zotac card.
longback2
sethjohnson555
I think if I had a graphics card this powerful I would die.
you'd be hyped for a couple of weeks then the novelty wears off and the fancy graphics become normalised. coming from someone who has spent too much on stuff like this. once you get into a game, the only thing you actually appreciate is high frame rate for smoothness. if everything else was medium settings I think I'd barely notice after a couple of minutes compared to ultra. I suppose it depends on the game tho.
100% agreed, even in my own experience when playing the most stunning visual games, after 5 mins you no longer pay that much attention to it, one thing though is fps preferences stay the same (I will notice if my fps goes below a certain point).
sethjohnson555
I think if I had a graphics card this powerful I would die.


you'd be hyped for a couple of weeks then the novelty wears off and the fancy graphics become normalised. coming from someone who has spent too much on stuff like this. once you get into a game, the only thing you actually appreciate is high frame rate for smoothness. if everything else was medium settings I think I'd barely notice after a couple of minutes compared to ultra. I suppose it depends on the game tho.
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Medion S3409 laptop 13.3" 256gb i3-7100u backlit keyboard £379.99 @ CCL

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I posted this with a different retailer, hopefully this one won't get pulled!! Intel Core i3 7100U Processor 1920X1080 ips screen Backlit keyboard 4GB Memory Intel H… Read More
I posted this with a different retailer, hopefully this one won't get pulled!! Intel Core i3 7100U Processor 1920X1080 ips screen Backlit keyboard 4GB Memory Intel H…
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4GB RAM is not enough in my view; shame as the rest is quite good..
There should be no problem with 4GB provided you don't want it for gaming. You would want a separate graphics card to game anyway. Rarely see mine go above 2/2.5gb, its my 3rd gen i5 processor that runs at 100% that i think limits my laptop not the ram.
I use firefox & chrome with many tabs; easily go over 4GB.... up to 6GB right now..


I am over 8gb on chrome alone.... good to have 16 in my case.
Picard123
nomez
Besides the bickering, is this laptop actually any good? lol
Headline specs are "look" okay but build quality and component quality is garbage. I used to have a very similar Medion model to this. Screen was crap, keyboard bounced like a trampoline, trackpad was a joke, motherboard was cheap junk, fan signature went up and down like Brilly bouncing his bunkbed, BIOS couldn't be updated, SSD was slow and real world battery life was terrible. Hinges on the screen eventually the broke the cheap plastic bezels on the screen. Brilly thought it was great though but then he reads Which? X)
and there you have it nomez, straight from captain jean luc blowhard himself
Picard123
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brilly
apart from the fact that no i am not a subscriber (great work buddy!) - id go with which? over your nonsense every day of the week
ROTFL. Come now, be honest - you've copy and pasted that blurb straight from the subscribers section of Which? They're the most useless publication going when it comes to knowledgeable reviews. They even describe that i3 ULV as something that provides "rapid processing"!! oO
I bet you also secretly enjoyed reading up on their reviews of oven gloves, lampshades, and electric kettles! X)
brilly

i am sure the person above is waiting for the link to that x1 carbon with the specs you stated for 500quid (apart from not being relevant as much more and a refurb)
14", 1.4kg, IPS screen, 1440p... you can get i7 / 8GB / 240GB SSD versions less than 500 apparently
Unlike you, he isn't on the autistic spectrum and knows how to use Google.
As Confucius once said, "Brilly become resentful man after previously buying overpriced junk laptop."X)
so yet again you use faulty logic and yet again you have no actual links
well done
Type it into the Google search box you lazy, autistic git. About 10 variations come up.
yet you cant link one - got it ;)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Refurb-ThinkPad-X1-Carbon-V2-Core-i7-4600U-2-10GHz-240-GB-SSD-Pro-Ultrabook-/371622146873
Your stupidity is off the scale....
1440p? nope, not even 1080p like the medion
still the shiny patches on the screen and the fact the battery will 'hold a charge' is reassuring indeed
good to know you have a stupidity scale though, must be very useful for you
Confucius say, "Brilly continue to live in ignorance as Brilly too dumb to use Google."X)
why would i need to google? you supplied me with a link to prove yourself right didn't you? oh...
nomez
Besides the bickering, is this laptop actually any good? lol

Headline specs are "look" okay but build quality and component quality is garbage. I used to have a very similar Medion model to this. Screen was crap, keyboard bounced like a trampoline, trackpad was a joke, motherboard was cheap junk, fan signature went up and down like Brilly bouncing his bunkbed, BIOS couldn't be updated, SSD was slow and real world battery life was terrible. Hinges on the screen eventually the broke the cheap plastic bezels on the screen. Brilly thought it was great though but then he reads Which? X)

Also if you don't mind an import and know your way around a Windows installation or an OS language/region conversion, the Xiaomi Air 12 is also a vastly more premium laptop than this Medion: http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_416105.html?wid=4&utm_source=tt_de

Edited By: Picard123 on Apr 19, 2017 14:56: .
nomez
Besides the bickering, is this laptop actually any good? lol
well on one hand we have a number of positive reviews
on the other we have picard blowing hot air
you decide


Edited By: brilly on Apr 19, 2017 13:25: .
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ASUS GeForce GTX 1050 Expedition 2GB Graphics Card - £99.66 @ CCLOnline

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These are up to £130 at some places so I thought this was a good price. Certainly can't see it any cheaper. I was looking for a 1050 for a budget build and set £100 as my limit, so this was ideal f… Read More
These are up to £130 at some places so I thought this was a good price. Certainly can't see it any cheaper. I was looking for a 1050 for a budget build and set £100 as my limit, so this was ideal f…
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Now appears to include a voucher for a free game.
2GB is simply not enough!
GwanGy
none atm, but the improvement of this card over igpu gets you ?? for this money you could afford an i5 instead of i3 or i7 instaed of i5.

Yes, currently the Intel HD 580 Iris Pro is the fastest IGP and it's still not even half this speed. HD 580 is also not available on desktop. Intel call the HD 580 config GT4e and according to this:
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=117799
Its die size is 234mm² with ~71% of that being GPU which is about 168mm². GP107 as used in this GTX 1050 is 132mm² on TSMC's 16nm FF which should be less dense than Intel's 14nm. Obviously memory bandwidth plays a big role (and the EDRAM is separate on the package at another 84mm²), and with something as parallel as a GPU it is possible to go slow and wide (although HD580 still runs at upto 1150MHz).

But basically, Intel do those Iris Pros because they fell they have to, but their area/perf is rather poor and probably doesn't make the margins Intel are used to (which explains why they haven't felt the need to have any more desktop parts since Broadwell even though Broadwell unlocked 'C' parts regular do very well in benchmarks).

The fastest AMD would be something like what's on the A12-9800 which is OEM only AM4 Excavator processor and is only about half the speed of the Intel HD 580 so roughly a quarter the speed of this.

GwanGy
incidentally why do am4 mobos have all those video outputs, ryzen has no igpu ?
ZEN APUs are going to be AM4 too. The mobile ones are expected later in the year, desktop AM4 later.

What is a better question is: why do some high-end AM4 not have video outputs? Are buyers of the Asus Crosshair, ASRock Taichi or Fatal1ty so sure they will never want or need to use any future APUs that they are willing to give up the flexibility. Those three are all £200+ boards too.

Edited By: Gkains on Apr 15, 2017 10:03: typo
GwanGy
incidentally why do am4 mobos have all those video outputs, ryzen has no igpu ?
Because the same motherboards will also support the APUs that are using the same socket.
But i'd like to know what onboard graphics beats a 1050?
none atm, but the improvement of this card over igpu gets you ?? for this money you could afford an i5 instead of i3 or i7 instaed of i5.
incidentally why do am4 mobos have all those video outputs, ryzen has no igpu ?
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WD Red 6tb hard drive £199.02 including delivery @ CCLOnline

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Finally, WD Red 6tb drives are dropping in price. This is the first time I've seen the 6tb drive for under £200. I use several of these in my company's server and they're great - no overheating or o… Read More
Finally, WD Red 6tb drives are dropping in price. This is the first time I've seen the 6tb drive for under £200. I use several of these in my company's server and they're great - no overheating or o…
DamnedDamnedDamned Avatar2w, 3d agoFound 2 weeks, 3 days ago3 Comments
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Damn you've got to be quick to get a deal these days! Nice try OP. Those are good drives.
Blimey, they just hiked the price up in the time it took me to write that. Oh well, it was a good deal earlier on, but not so good now.
Showing as £208.97 i'm afraid.
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Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming OC 11GB WITH FREE GAME £685.57 at CCL

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For a limited time, choose from either For Honor or Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands with a qualifying purchase of GeForce® GTX™ 1080 or 1070 GPU, or GTX 1080/1070 powered notebook! one of the b… Read More
For a limited time, choose from either For Honor or Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands with a qualifying purchase of GeForce® GTX™ 1080 or 1070 GPU, or GTX 1080/1070 powered notebook! one of the b…
shahidali47 Avatar3w, 3d agoFound 3 weeks, 3 days ago27 Comments
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I was going to go for another 1070 to use in sli. I've read some articles about the 1070 in sli mode and they say they are blisteringly fast. However, it seems that not all games support sli. I still cant decide

I personally wouldn't, suppose if you was thinking of paying £300+ for another 1070, could sell your current one and put all the money towards the 1080ti


Sound advice. I'll get a good price for my current 1070. It's a high end MSI card. And then I'll put that towards a 1080ti. Maybe. There's no rush.

Edited By: mark6226 on Apr 07, 2017 09:46: Mispellimg
shahidali47
hello
how can I help?
CCL Code: VGA3772
so this was £685.57 at CCL yesterday
as soon as you expected stock you shoot the price up to £771.12 inc VAT
disgraceful
our prices are subject to change at any time and we don't actually have stock yet
this will probably change again
all the 1080Ti's will be updated with proper pricing when we get stock
well its quite dissapointing
i think that price £685.57 yesterday was a publicity stunt
i posted it on http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-oc-11gb-with-free-game-685-57-ccl-2655764
15:52
the manufacturer of the card hasn't even decided on the price
we are just using whatever they say at the time
and you just dissapointed everyone in that forum
ok
we don't even change them they are direct prices from NVIDIA
ok i understand
the price will only be fixed when we have stock in the building
i understand it's not ideal for you
can i post this reply in that link i sent
but it's the best we can do
ok
thanks for explaining
no worries
it will be sorted in the next week or so

They knew the price a month ago. All the distributors did. Perhaps it was a stunt. Not cool ccl. But generally their prices are good.



Edited By: rapid111111 on Apr 06, 2017 16:30
hello
how can I help?
CCL Code: VGA3772
so this was £685.57 at CCL yesterday
as soon as you expected stock you shoot the price up to £771.12 inc VAT
disgraceful
our prices are subject to change at any time and we don't actually have stock yet
this will probably change again
all the 1080Ti's will be updated with proper pricing when we get stock
well its quite dissapointing
i think that price £685.57 yesterday was a publicity stunt
i posted it on http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-oc-11gb-with-free-game-685-57-ccl-2655764
15:52
the manufacturer of the card hasn't even decided on the price
we are just using whatever they say at the time
and you just dissapointed everyone in that forum
ok
we don't even change them they are direct prices from NVIDIA
ok i understand
the price will only be fixed when we have stock in the building
i understand it's not ideal for you
can i post this reply in that link i sent
but it's the best we can do
ok
thanks for explaining
no worries
it will be sorted in the next week or so
holy *** gone upto £771 NOW with pre order CCL TRICKED EVERYON. **** them
rapid111111
xZEDx
will skip this gen... 980ti still working great only game at 2560*1080, don't really need an upgared
but it's 50% faster, how can you resist!!! lol :p
yeah the 980ti is holding well, which is what i hope to expect from this ti
I game at 1440p on a 165hz monitor. Welcome upgrade from my 980ti, over 100fps at 1440p at everything i've tried so far.
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asus rx 460 2gb £79.99 @ CCLonline

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Just providing a cheaper alternative to a previous post
busiestbaronsmd Avatar1m, 2d agoFound 1 month, 2 days ago10 Comments
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As a performance mark, the RX460 challenges the Geforce GTX750 Ti - and at this price, may be preferable, but citing CeX prices, yes, there are some significant variations, with older range cards dipping compared to more recent models that may have lower performance.

The GTX 750 Ti tends to be on the high side of used prices, as it was a very popular workhorse with a good performance to power ratio - and is still a competent entry level gaming solution.

It's a price point where the battle rages between budget new cards and older cards displaced from higher places

Edited By: matth9999 on Mar 29, 2017 17:43
ianbeany
Before I buy - can someone please confirm this card is better?

The 460 is a bad card, full stop. It doesn't sit at a convincing price point and simply doesn't fit with the rest of the radeon product line. The gap between the 470 and 460 is extreme.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/24.html

It's simply bad value, even at this price. If you're looking at this price point (80 quid) seriously consider a used card from the previous generation. Or an APU/iGPU
hamzahuk
A 280x or HD 7970 for £80 is a nice find, it will distroy the rx 460 in terms of performance, they are even better than the 1050tis at £130
There you go:
https://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?sortOn=sellprice_asc&stext=radeon+3gb§ion=&rad_which_stock=2
From £70, which is the same price as the 280 and cheaper than the 7950. But then CEX prices seldom make sense. Well plus postage £2.50. Mail order you get absolutely no idea what make they'll send you though. But they do offer a '2 year warranty' (but I think unless they happen to have the same thing in stock, they'll try and wiggle out or credit you current price or similar).

Uses a slight bit more power though:
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/radeon-rx-460-test/6/
Total system load 124W versus 288W (you have to click the "+ 25 Einträge" to see the 280X).
But it scores 165% of this:
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/radeon-rx-460-test/3/#abschnitt_benchmarks_in_1920__1080
https://i.imgur.com/IuaXaeZ.png

Edited By: Gkains on Mar 28, 2017 16:47
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ShroomHeadToad
Probably slower than the old HD 7870.
Probably slower than the old gtx titan x
Titan X still goes for well over £300+ on ebay, a used HD 7870 £40-£50.
This card is not even worth £50, for £80~ you could buy a used HD7970/R9 280X that will thrash this pile of junk.
A 280x or HD 7970 for £80 is a nice find, it will distroy the rx 460 in terms of performance, they are even better than the 1050tis at £130
Those cards require lots of power though. This is good for someone like myself who just plays Rocket League and a few Origin Access games.
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Intel Pentium G4560 Dual Core 4 Threads 3.5ghz lga1151 Kaby lake £52.96 @ cclonline

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The best cpu for the money right now not far off the performance of the i3-6100 http://www.techspot.com/review/1325-intel-pentium-g4560/ Read More
The best cpu for the money right now not far off the performance of the i3-6100 http://www.techspot.com/review/1325-intel-pentium-g4560/
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These are great value little CPUs, you really can't argue with the performance that's on offer here for 50 quid.
Yes, this kind of a value was last seen in 2008 or 2009. I remember getting a £35 Core2 Celeron @ 1.6GHz and running it at 3.2GHz on a cheap £32 motherboard. Was running at that speed all its live until it was replaced last year.
Those Celeron's were a bit cache limited though so back then I bought a £55 Core2 Pentium E5200 and gave it a nice +50% overclock again a cheap (~ £45) board.
Back then there was no specialised £200-£300 CPUs or £200+ "super gaming LED bling" motherboards required.
It is a shame you cannot just overclock the living daylights out of cheap Intel CPUs; I wonder how far one of these G4560s would go if only the multiplier was unlocked... I suspect you'd end up with something very close to an i3-7350k for less than a third of the price (not that the i3-7350k is anything like good value).
You're right, expensive motherboards are a total rip off for overclocking, my ~£60 Gigabyte Z97P-D3 has happily run my i5-4690k at 4.7Ghz for over two years now, I'm fairly sure a top end Z97 'board at five times the price wouldn't have got any more performance out of my CPU.
Sadly, the cheapest Z270 'boards, Z97's modern equivalent, are well over £100 and even Z170 'boards pre-Brexit referendum and subsequent crash in GBP value were significantly more expensive than their Z97 predecessors.
got the same setup (i5/z97) and only getting 4.1ghz,anychance of sharing your settings for 4.7?

What's limiting you? I have the same set up and overclocked to 4.3ghz easily, all stable and runs cool. I didn't even have to up the voltage


turns out i only have a 430w PSU so that needs changing straight away lol
sumpter
Thanks for the quick reply, understandable at this price point I guess.
Will take a read of the review :)
No problem.
Might keep that reply as a stock one for any other deals for this which come up as that Techspot review in the OP is rather amateur.
Gkains
sumpter
I like the idea of overclocking a little if possible :)
Not possible at all. This like all non-K Kabylake CPUs is totally locked down.
A very good review where they try different graphics cards, gauge the impact of multi-tasking (well WinRAR in the background while gaming which while not very realistic - streaming seems a far better background tasks to test for gaming - is better than all these benchmarks with nothing going in the background) and similar goodies is this:https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/intel-pentium-g4560-test-kaby-lake/
(Google Translated but the graphs speak for themselves - don't forget that a lot of them are interactive and with 'Bearbeiten' you can often select your own test suite and it will recalculate with only those).
As for those wonder the 'what if' were Intel to allow overclocking on these, well i3-7350K can answer that and CB also reviewed that:https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/intel-core-i3-7350k-test-overclocking/ (Google Translated)
Pity that CPU is so overpriced plus it needs a Z270 motherboard too.

Thanks for the quick reply, understandable at this price point I guess.

Will take a read of the review :)
sumpter
I like the idea of overclocking a little if possible :)
Not possible at all. This like all non-K Kabylake CPUs is totally locked down.
A very good review where they try different graphics cards, gauge the impact of multi-tasking (well WinRAR in the background while gaming which while not very realistic - streaming seems a far better background tasks to test for gaming - is better than all these benchmarks with nothing going in the background) and similar goodies is this:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/intel-pentium-g4560-test-kaby-lake/
(Google Translated but the graphs speak for themselves - don't forget that a lot of them are interactive and with 'Bearbeiten' you can often select your own test suite and it will recalculate with only those).

As for those wonder the 'what if' were Intel to allow overclocking on these, well i3-7350K can answer that and CB also reviewed that:
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-01/intel-core-i3-7350k-test-overclocking/ (Google Translated)
Pity that CPU is so overpriced plus it needs a Z270 motherboard too.

Edited By: Gkains on Mar 28, 2017 11:54
I've been out of the PC market for a while but enjoy building my own, can someone recommend a budget motherboard to go with this CPU and the Crucial 16gb DDR4 deal posted?

I like the idea of overclocking a little if possible :)

Thanks!
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Seagate SSHD 500GB SATA III 2.5" Hybrid Drive @ CCL 33.66 + 2.99 P&P = £36.65

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Laptop Solid State Hybrid Drive Thin 7 mm Hybrid Drive If it suits your requirements Not a bad drive. Not a bad price. 500GB Capacity 5400RPM Spin Speed SATA III Interface 64MB Cache 2.5" Fo… Read More
Laptop Solid State Hybrid Drive Thin 7 mm Hybrid Drive If it suits your requirements Not a bad drive. Not a bad price. 500GB Capacity 5400RPM Spin Speed SATA III Interface 64MB Cache 2.5" Fo…
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The oner I bought , I put it my laptop, as a proper SSD was very limited by the fact of the SATA controller of just 3Gb/s.
So I thought that this hybrid would be a compromise between a HD and SSD, and to some point it is.
the point isn't the sequential speed which is really the main thing which would be (potentially) limited vs HDD on SATA2 (or even SATA1)
Teracopy is now on 3.0 , I think its better faster at copying .
Most laptop drives are 5400rpm, for energy/heat saving , some even run at 4200.
This drive, depending on how often it actually spins up the drive, rather than fetching from the Kache, may extend your battery life
Damnit I missed it
plewis00
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derp1664
trueno2k
Why go for this when the 2TB model is only 2x the cost for so much more storage!.. Cold from me!..
Why buy a Ford when a Mercedes is only twice the price :D
Exactly. This would be perfect for grandma's laptop - she's not much of a torrent user...
Why not just buy a 128GB pure SSD then? These hybrid drives are so disappointing in real would use.

It's a fair point, a pure SSD would be much much better, but woiuld need to be bigger than 128GB because after Windows/Office/other usual apps + cache, space for windows updates, you're left with about 80GB. She has photos and videos of the grandkids and that would fill up quickly. Another 350GB would come in handy.
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brainsys
Voted cold. 95% of the drive runs like a dog - slower than almost any other HDD. The 8GB SSD isn't going to hold much of your OS and swap space (well unless you run a minimal Linux distribution).
Wags have said it would be faster to run your OS off a USB stick. IMHO better to spend your money on a faster or bigger HDD that hasn't been emasculated by the 'shingle' effect. Until next year when, hopefully, pure SSDs become affordable again.
I upgraded this drive to 500GB Samsung evo 850 in my i5 skylake laptop and expected miracle. Miracle hasn't happened. With my recent use ( office, web browsing, photo editing and light gaming ) I couldn't spot a lot of difference. Fresh win install didn't help either. From my point of view I just wasted £100.
This is a good drive for money (I'm Acer & Compaq ex IT engineer).
not much difference to Evo 850 haha ok mate
"ex IT engineer" :)


So he had both drives and couldn't see much difference in REAL world use in his case. How are you gonna argue with that?
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cheaper from ccl directly rather than the ebay link posted yesterday. used the 120 version of this myself on my last build and was impressed. this is a bargain at this price point.
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That tubing doesn't look appealing at all.
SouthamptonUK2017
BEWARE!!!My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :
Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID
This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)
Scary stuff guys!oO
Where did you get that error from?
Anyway, it is go.skimlinks.com that has its SSL certificate's common name as go.redirectingat.com - it looks like a random ad that has incorrect SSL, who cares :p
BEWARE!!!

My security settings are good enough to capture this kind of thing :

Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from go.skimlinks.com (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards). NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

This server could not prove that it is go.skimlinks.com; its security certificate is from go.redirectingat.com. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection. Learn more. Proceed to go.skimlinks.com (unsafe)

Scary stuff guys!oO
I was given one of these. It spent 15 minutes in my system. Terrible temperatures and noise compared to my noctua dh15.
Also though do you think it'll be good temps for a overclock on ryzen ?

Thanks
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Jumping on the RX 480 deal bandwagon! Seems like the current best price and includes free copy of Doom (redeemed through AMD website) I've just purchased one so will be collecting it on Weds!
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Balb0wa
Download the file from Asus site, click on it in Windows, reboots and bingo it's done


I actually tried that straight afterward I posted the comment and it said something like "your bios no need an update" :s
Download the file from Asus site, click on it in Windows, reboots and bingo it's done
Balb0wa
Ive got this card, updated the bios to 0db one, its fine, very good for the money, paid £150 from ocuk

How did you update the BIOS? Would like to try this myself for the 0db fan mode. Thanks
BigDiscovery
ether707
BigDiscovery
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BigDiscovery
ether707
The Asus RX 480 8GB is on Scan for £174.98 with the DOOM game. I'm thinking of getting it but everyone is saying this card is loud and faulty.
I have RX 480 8GB XFX version and before I made my mind up I was worried same like you, as many users were complaining about the noise level and so on. But it really depends on your PC case, resolution you want to game, etc.
Maybe cards with earlier BIOS versions had some serious issues but now having the card I can't say anything bad about it, so far I would even say that it is a best GPU I ever had. I play in 1080p, my PC is without a window and literally next to me and when it comes to the noise I'll hear my PSU over the GPU.
I'm talking about the ASUS cards. They appear to be very loud and run hot.
I know pal, my point was that it is probably the same story for all makes of RX 480, but if you look on reviews, also note the date when they've been posted - most of the negative ones will be for the very early releases of the specific card.
I'm not your pal, buddy. I'm going by what people have commented on hotukdeals from buying this card. If you actually bothered to read the comments X)
I'm not your buddy, guy! X)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQK6t2Esng
oh I get it now. Sorry but we don't watch American Crap in our house.
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The Asus RX 480 8GB is on Scan for £174.98 with the DOOM game. I'm thinking of getting it but everyone is saying this card is loud and faulty.
I have RX 480 8GB XFX version and before I made my mind up I was worried same like you, as many users were complaining about the noise level and so on. But it really depends on your PC case, resolution you want to game, etc.
Maybe cards with earlier BIOS versions had some serious issues but now having the card I can't say anything bad about it, so far I would even say that it is a best GPU I ever had. I play in 1080p, my PC is without a window and literally next to me and when it comes to the noise I'll hear my PSU over the GPU.
I'm talking about the ASUS cards. They appear to be very loud and run hot.
I know pal, my point was that it is probably the same story for all makes of RX 480, but if you look on reviews, also note the date when they've been posted - most of the negative ones will be for the very early releases of the specific card.
I'm not your pal, buddy. I'm going by what people have commented on hotukdeals from buying this card. If you actually bothered to read the comments X)
Cm-on buddies be pals
We are not your buddies, friend! X)
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This is a good deal for a Asus RX 470 Strix ! This can be overclocked to match the performance of an RX 480, all whilst being kept cool with a great non reference cooling design.
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robert260574
bought my son a RX 470 4gb from amazon for £154.99 last week so heat from me


Just for the leds?
down down down
bought my son a RX 470 4gb from amazon for £154.99 last week so heat from me
I thought it depended on whether the lights were R, B or G - and overall they sort of averaged out to W
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Destard
Wouldn't it be better overall to pay around £10 more and get an rx 480?


wow hold on there!!! This model has RGB lights, much more beneficial than %15 more performance.


Rgb lights give 50% better performance
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Sapphire Radeon RX 460 NITRO 4GB Graphics Card probably the cheapest current rx 460 4gb model. free delivery with this. see the 2gb model for just under £90 so for a few extra £££ this is worth
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Hi can anyone recommend me a graphics card for gigabyte ga-t671mg motherboard, thank you...
Great find op
JoseChupachup
How does this compare to my R9 280x? Is there a ranking table somewhere?


The toms hardware gpu ranking chart is quite helpful

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html

Essentially if you upgrade up less than 3 steps you probably won't notice much of a difference
type105x
JoseChupachup
How does this compare to my R9 280x? Is there a ranking table somewhere?
Its not worth moving from a 280x to this card lol better going for the 470rx


Thanks. Any idea on what would be a good value upgrade? Do I even need one? I'm running a 1080p monitor and sometimes stream to the Tv.
jaydeeuk1
mickael28
gowf

Apart from that you're absolutely correct it's a matter of overclocking, sometimes 4gb vs 8gb, cooling method and fans and finally aesthetics
The basic gpu itself is always the same. And amd or nvidia don't let that aspect be changed at all
Thanks guys, I didn't know they all were kind of the same thing just with a few changes. Is there a big difference between 4GB and 8GB when we're talking about graphic cards? ie, if the price difference is too much, is it really worth it?
A single 480 isn't powerful enough to run bells and whistles at 4k, and I'm guessing you're not thinking of xfiring (which has its own issues but really does need the 8gb cards).
At 1080p you won't notice any difference between them, I'd save £40 and get the 4gb.

mickael28
jaydeeuk1

At 1080p you won't notice any difference between them, I'd save £40 and get the 4gb.
Mainly that config yeah, good to know. Thank you mate!

More about choosing VRAM here >

4GB of VRAM is more than enough for most video cards today, even at 4K. ... This test has shown that 8GB of VRAM is pretty useless right now, there's just no need. Sure, NVIDIA has a video card with 12GB of VRAM in the Titan X, and 6GB of VRAM on its new GTX 980 Ti, but most of the time it's not needed, even at 4K.13 Jun 2015
How much VRAM do you really need at 1080p, 1440p and 4K?
http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/89/much-vram-need-1080p-1440p-4k/index.html



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Got mine for £399.99 here. Arrives tomorrow.
That Deal has expired though ... Plus it's refurbished. X)

Edited By: JoshuaHirst on Mar 07, 2017 09:30: .
Got mine for £399.99 here. Arrives tomorrow.
Noice, Nvidia is dropping the price of the 1080 as the 1080ti is coming out so hopefully this is manufacturers following suit.
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BB93
Admittedly you get DOOM with this but if you're not worried about the game, can save a few quid herehttps://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-asus-radeon-rx-480-dual-oc-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-8000mhz-gddr5-1305mhz-boost-2304-streams-2x-dp-2?owpid=2832615
Might only save a fiver but £5 is £5 :)

It's now £174.98 and you get Doom with it.
merlin6r
Yeah I think there's a reason these are cheap, I ordered one but it was faulty, it would play on low settings but as soon as I turned up the detail in each of my games the card crashed to a solid colour screen in under a minute. Returned the card, they agreed it was faulty, sent me another. Does exactly the same thing. Can't even get 2 minutes into the heaven4.0 benchmark (which isn't exactly demanding anymore) at 1600x900 preset.
And yes I tried both cards with several drivers, different pci-e cables, and even in another machine.
After getting 2 faulty in a row I'm guessing there's a high fault rate with these cards.
That's bad luck, my first card was the same, but thankfully my replacement is working great, I've ran it through its paces on a lot of games and benchmark programs.

I'm getting 85fps on ultra settings on Doom @ 1440p, 155fps @ 1080p, using the Vulkan API.

I would ask them to test a 3rd card before sending it out if you are considering giving them another chance, as it's a great card for the money that will only get better as more games start using DX12 & Vulkan.

Edited By: sjb07 on Mar 12, 2017 14:34
Yeah I think there's a reason these are cheap, I ordered one but it was faulty, it would play on low settings but as soon as I turned up the detail in each of my games the card crashed to a solid colour screen in under a minute. Returned the card, they agreed it was faulty, sent me another. Does exactly the same thing. Can't even get 2 minutes into the heaven4.0 benchmark (which isn't exactly demanding anymore) at 1600x900 preset.

And yes I tried both cards with several drivers, different pci-e cables, and even in another machine.

After getting 2 faulty in a row I'm guessing there's a high fault rate with these cards.
Admittedly you get DOOM with this but if you're not worried about the game, can save a few quid here
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-asus-radeon-rx-480-dual-oc-14nm-polaris-pcie-30-8000mhz-gddr5-1305mhz-boost-2304-streams-2x-dp-2?owpid=2832615

Might only save a fiver but £5 is £5 :)

Edited By: BB93 on Mar 06, 2017 15:36
7777777
You should have got a voucher from the retailer first, then claim the game from amdrewards. Unfortunately, the hitman promo is now over.[/quote]
I did, but AMD have failed repeatedly to authenticate my AMDRewards account, and so no Hitman download. They do manage to send me lots of spam for the new cpu launch and other comps, but still fail to send any reply or activation code for the account.
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copped one. why not for £45
Tempted for my 2600k that's still going strong. How quiet are these? I'm currently running a Noctua nh-d14.
Heat.....though not literally!
Shame the Coolermaster range all suffer from noisy pumps. Went though several before switching to Corsair.
ganon
Will this fit in itx case like the Thermaltake Core V1?
Is there any point getting it if not overclocking?


I have mine installed in Bitfenix Colossus Mini ITX and it fits perfectly. The radiator is pretty slim as well as 120mm fans.
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Who needs food when you have nvme...
All reviews are overwhelmingly positive. A few caveats but nothing a little bios trickery won't sort out.

Just got my 1800x ordered today.
And a new motherboard, 32gb ddr4, mounting adaptor for my liquid cooling solution, oh and a 3rd gen NVMe for system and software.

I'm also not planning on eating for the rest of this month.

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Keydogg
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Nate1492
I mean, no. Intel's Enthusiast desktop market is based around the 4 core 8 thread 7600k and 7700k lines which cost less than the 1800x. Just because AMD have always used octa core and attempted to shoehorn them into comparisons with Intel doesn't make this a direct consumer competitor. Because you say so? I think if a large corporate business is looking at upgrading 100 machines and they see two CPUs, one at £500 and one at £1000 then I think they would beg to differ.
90% of consumers won't care if they have 4 6 or 8 threads, as long as the threads they do have are fast single threaded. Again, this isn't being aimed at average consumers, what (other than the price being substantially lower than the equivalent i7) makes you think it is?
Most modern games don't benefit much from additional cores past 4, which may change, but it isn't the case yet.
Wait for benches, because right now, AMD is just convincing people to pay nearly 500 for an octo core CPU, when they likely won't benefit much. I don't think you understand that this is their TOP line CPU, and that they are releasing many CPUs beneath this which will compete with current i5s and i3s, but cheaper.
See above answers to a very fanboy-esque comment.
I for one have had Intel CPUs for a while now, currently with an i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz, but I cannot wait for these CPUs to come out! It will be great to have AMD back in the gamer/enthusiast market properly because these processors look like they will perform awesomely and also it will push Intel's prices down which is only good for us consumers.
Good work AMD, bring it on!
I completely understand this isn't their only CPU they are releasing.
But why the cherry picked comparison?
Pick whatever CPU you want, but compare it to the 7700k.
Why? Surely you pick the CPU that performs very closely to the 7700k and use that as a comparison??
You don't compare an F1 car with a Touring Car, you put F1 vs F1 because they are in the same performance category. Comparing an 1800x to a 7700k is even remotely useful or relevant.

Except the 7700k will very likely outperform the 1800x in 'gaming' and pretty much every single threaded application.

It is absolutely useful and relevant as the 1800x is not in the same 'price bracket' as you would say. Comparing a $1000 cpu to a $500 CPU and saying you shouldn't compare the $350 is silly.

We'll see it, when reviews come out. The 7700k will very likely destroy it.
Nate1492
Keydogg
Nate1492
I mean, no. Intel's Enthusiast desktop market is based around the 4 core 8 thread 7600k and 7700k lines which cost less than the 1800x. Just because AMD have always used octa core and attempted to shoehorn them into comparisons with Intel doesn't make this a direct consumer competitor. Because you say so? I think if a large corporate business is looking at upgrading 100 machines and they see two CPUs, one at £500 and one at £1000 then I think they would beg to differ.
90% of consumers won't care if they have 4 6 or 8 threads, as long as the threads they do have are fast single threaded. Again, this isn't being aimed at average consumers, what (other than the price being substantially lower than the equivalent i7) makes you think it is?
Most modern games don't benefit much from additional cores past 4, which may change, but it isn't the case yet.
Wait for benches, because right now, AMD is just convincing people to pay nearly 500 for an octo core CPU, when they likely won't benefit much. I don't think you understand that this is their TOP line CPU, and that they are releasing many CPUs beneath this which will compete with current i5s and i3s, but cheaper.
See above answers to a very fanboy-esque comment.
I for one have had Intel CPUs for a while now, currently with an i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz, but I cannot wait for these CPUs to come out! It will be great to have AMD back in the gamer/enthusiast market properly because these processors look like they will perform awesomely and also it will push Intel's prices down which is only good for us consumers.
Good work AMD, bring it on!
I completely understand this isn't their only CPU they are releasing.
But why the cherry picked comparison?
Pick whatever CPU you want, but compare it to the 7700k.

Why? Surely you pick the CPU that performs very closely to the 7700k and use that as a comparison??

You don't compare an F1 car with a Touring Car, you put F1 vs F1 because they are in the same performance category. Comparing an 1800x to a 7700k is even remotely useful or relevant.
Keydogg
Nate1492
I mean, no. Intel's Enthusiast desktop market is based around the 4 core 8 thread 7600k and 7700k lines which cost less than the 1800x. Just because AMD have always used octa core and attempted to shoehorn them into comparisons with Intel doesn't make this a direct consumer competitor. Because you say so? I think if a large corporate business is looking at upgrading 100 machines and they see two CPUs, one at £500 and one at £1000 then I think they would beg to differ.
90% of consumers won't care if they have 4 6 or 8 threads, as long as the threads they do have are fast single threaded. Again, this isn't being aimed at average consumers, what (other than the price being substantially lower than the equivalent i7) makes you think it is?
Most modern games don't benefit much from additional cores past 4, which may change, but it isn't the case yet.
Wait for benches, because right now, AMD is just convincing people to pay nearly 500 for an octo core CPU, when they likely won't benefit much. I don't think you understand that this is their TOP line CPU, and that they are releasing many CPUs beneath this which will compete with current i5s and i3s, but cheaper.
See above answers to a very fanboy-esque comment.
I for one have had Intel CPUs for a while now, currently with an i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz, but I cannot wait for these CPUs to come out! It will be great to have AMD back in the gamer/enthusiast market properly because these processors look like they will perform awesomely and also it will push Intel's prices down which is only good for us consumers.
Good work AMD, bring it on!


I completely understand this isn't their only CPU they are releasing.

But why the cherry picked comparison?

Pick whatever CPU you want, but compare it to the 7700k.
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Some people are never happy, if you posted an Intel 6900K for £500, people would be going mental over how cheap it was, post the AMD equivalent for even less and it's over priced. *shakes head*
Well that's right, AMD is a budget brand for peasants is it not?

I always thought of them as a poor mans cpu as intel as monopolised the extortionate prices
Uncommon.Sense
The_Hoff
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.
Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.
If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.
Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.
The market share AMD had with x86-64 Opteron was immense compared to what it is now, and they stole most of that from Intel in a very small amount of time. I have no doubt that AMD will be aggressive with their pricing, but maybe not as much as you'd imagine vs. the desktop market.
I am sure we all know only time will tell, but AMD seem to have a great few years ahead of them. :)

The world has changed, the data centre is now an old model. They have a lot to do to get proper enterprise onboard.

I've heard no interest in AMD at work (large media org).
The_Hoff
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.
Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.
If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.
Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.

The market share AMD had with x86-64 Opteron was immense compared to what it is now, and they stole most of that from Intel in a very small amount of time. I have no doubt that AMD will be aggressive with their pricing, but maybe not as much as you'd imagine vs. the desktop market.

I am sure we all know only time will tell, but AMD seem to have a great few years ahead of them. :)
Intel will be forced to innovate for the first time in years.

Let's see how much the market shakes up, I don't see the enterprise shifting to an unproven processor any time soon and AMD will need to offer the OEMs chips for pennies to have them take notice.

If they can attack the consumer laptop and tablet markets in combination with feeding gamers and small businesses they'll do well, they have Scorpio in the bag too so that will be profitable as Xbox has been for them.

Let's hope Intel sink enough to give something back.
vulcanproject
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Sounds like fishmaster is a big amd fan
I am happy to see AMD competitive again but when you sit down for just a second and think it's hard to see too many people needing more than 4 cores even right now. Also the vast majority of the desktops and notebooks sold by OEMs (>70 percent of all PCs) pretty much require integrated graphics which Ryzen does not have.
Ryzen could be a big win for the niche enthusiast gaming market, and potentially very good in the server market later this year. That is much more important than gamers TBH for this architecture, very lucrative. It'll be a while though before Ryzen makes a big impact on the wider PC market without an iGPU.
You're absolutely right as I said above these three initial Ryzen CPUs are massive overkill for gaming, but AMD are putting forth their best at a price which is massively cheaper than Intel.
Anyone who thinks I'm an AMD fanboy is as clueless as a few of the posts on this thread.
What will have Intel worried the most is the potential for server/workstation damage. AMD Naples platform.
They own 99 percent of that market space because power/performance efficiency is THE critical purchase decision when you're running like 1000 cores 24/7. Intel completely and utterly dominate the server market which is where some really big bucks are spent.
If AMD deliver something that is nearly as fast but with better power characteristics (we'll see) at a similar price it'll eat into that market quickly. Gaming chips are pifflingly unimportant compared to that.

Indeed it will take time as companies such as Facebook have massively invested in Intel, they would likely transition to AMD rather than replace entirely which will take time, unless Intel come straight back at them, this is all good. I dislike the fanboy insinuations on any discussion like this, it's obvious competition is good and I back whoever gives the best value for money at the time.
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ASUS PRIME B250M-A Intel Socket 1151 Motherboard - Novatech - £69.42 @ CCLOnline

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Socket 1151 Chipset Type: Intel B250 6 X SATA & 5 X USB Ports DDR4 (max 64GB, 4 slots) VGA, HDMI and DVI mATX Form Factor Asus spec here: https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/PRIME-B250M-A/ove… Read More
Socket 1151 Chipset Type: Intel B250 6 X SATA & 5 X USB Ports DDR4 (max 64GB, 4 slots) VGA, HDMI and DVI mATX Form Factor Asus spec here: https://www.asus.com/uk/Motherboards/PRIME-B250M-A/ove…
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Zeipher
Just installed mine, the cpu socket pins are bent... so now it looks like I have to send it back.
You noticed before you tried installing the CPU?
Just installed mine, the cpu socket pins are bent... so now it looks like I have to send it back.
Yeah, looks like you missed it.
Showing @ £73.98 inc VAT for me.
Noxia
Does it just affect the buying of foreign goods?

Pretty much yeah, unfortunately we buy a hell of a lot from overseas companies.