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Center Programmable Room Thermostat (Honeywell) £51.00 or £40.80 with code FIRSTSHOP20 (Plumb Center)

£51.00 @ Plumbcenter
NB; 20% off Online with code FIRSTSHOP20 http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/info/register/ Thanks to @deanos for the spot. = £40.80 After a recent broken Vaillant thermostat - I thought I would sha… Read More
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7m, 4d agoFound 7 months, 4 days ago
NB; 20% off Online with code FIRSTSHOP20
http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/info/register/
Thanks to @deanos for the spot.

= £40.80

After a recent broken Vaillant thermostat - I thought I would share some good intel on an amazing deal from Plumb Center (no, I'm not on commission).

In an era of smart thermostats costing 200+ fitting, its worth noting that those in the trade tend to recommend Honeywell thermostats. They are reliable, simple to use and have a good rf signal/receiver.

The Plumb Center own brand thermostat is made by Honeywell, and although it doesnt have a holiday setting, doesnt come with extended warranty (as the branded ones do), or have the "call anytime" type customer service, this unit shares a lot of the DNA of the Honeywell CM721, but costs a good £100 less (you can compare pictures and draw your own conclusion on how similar they are http://www.partscenter.co.uk/product/honeywell-cm721-24-hour-programmable-room-thermostat-radio-frequency-controlled/ ) .

It has a 7 day programme, auto and frost protection setting, as well as Honeywell's energy saving TPI technology:
http://www.honeywelluk.com/documents/All/pdf/TPI%20Functionality%20explained.pdf

My experience so far has been that the Part Center 'stat is far superior to the Vaillant unit that came with my boiler (which was over £150) and has a rock solid connection; so for anyone needing to save some money, but still get a quality part, this is well worth knowing about, although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.
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breslau
SaverSaver
breslau
... although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.
In the spirit of both the season and saving money, "Oh no you won't!"
At the risk of Widow Twanky blowing up your terrace, please reconsider.
It's a timer your not going to touch the gas.

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#1
thanks, will have a read up but tempted!
3 Likes #2
breslau
... although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.

In the spirit of both the season and saving money, "Oh no you won't!"
1 Like #3
SaverSaver
breslau
... although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.
In the spirit of both the season and saving money, "Oh no you won't!"

At the risk of Widow Twanky blowing up your terrace, please reconsider.
#4
Just over a year ago I needed to replace one of these which was faulty. I was disgusted at the price. So I replaced with netatmo for a similar price. The netatmo has been great.
1 Like #5
shalton
Just over a year ago I needed to replace one of these which was faulty. I was disgusted at the price. So I replaced with netatmo for a similar price. The netatmo has been great.

I replaced one of these Vaillant units which is £195 and rubbish .. for £51 quid I will take my chances with the generic Center one.
http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/product/vaillant-vrt-350f-programmable-room-thermostat/

Edited By: breslau on Dec 16, 2016 23:03: typo
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breslau
SaverSaver
breslau
... although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.
In the spirit of both the season and saving money, "Oh no you won't!"
At the risk of Widow Twanky blowing up your terrace, please reconsider.
It's a timer your not going to touch the gas.
1 Like #7
satan666wayne
breslau
SaverSaver
breslau
... although you will want to pay an engineer to fit it.
In the spirit of both the season and saving money, "Oh no you won't!"
At the risk of Widow Twanky blowing up your terrace, please reconsider.
It's a timer your not going to touch the gas.

I've got a Ecotec Vaillant boiler and it required taking off the front plate, following the diagram, and wiring it all up; so if you had some basic knowledge of electronics you'd probably be alright, but it wasn't super straight forward. If I was replacing the unit which clipped onto the front, I'd have done that myself, but it's supposed to be possible to bend the pins if you arent careful fitting those sort.

Edited By: breslau on Dec 16, 2016 20:12: typo
#8
Didn't know this cost so much, explains why mine sold on ebay for £40. Thought it was an old crappy thermostat.
#9
satan666wayne
It's a timer your not going to touch the gas.

Exactly right. It is a switch (2 wires) and probably a power supply (2 wires). You'll probably be replacing like for like anyway. Read the instructions and have a think first!

Edited By: SaverSaver on Dec 16, 2016 21:18: reason for edit
#10
Its a great price looking at it individually (most for £100+) and I would expect any Honeywell kit to be solid but it just feels like going back in time. Unless you are on a extremely strict budget, buying for a rental property or hate technology its far better to go for a smart option. Yes its got a 7 day timer but trust me, setting up a 7 day pattern on a Hive (and making subtle changes to it) is so much easier and that is before you get to the additional benefits of remote control etc.

I've got a Valliant Ecotec and it had such a basic analogue (daily timer) so I just went straight to Hive rather than buy 7 day timer. I'm not into making everything "Smart" for the sake of it, so I wouldn't buy it if you already have a working solution but if you need to replace it, go with something that will make your life easier.
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RedmanDealer
Its a great price looking at it individually (most for £100+) and I would expect any Honeywell kit to be solid but it just feels like going back in time. Unless you are on a extremely strict budget, buying for a rental property or hate technology its far better to go for a smart option. Yes its got a 7 day timer but trust me, setting up a 7 day pattern on a Hive (and making subtle changes to it) is so much easier and that is before you get to the additional benefits of remote control etc.
I've got a Valliant Ecotec and it had such a basic analogue (daily timer) so I just went straight to Hive rather than buy 7 day timer. I'm not into making everything "Smart" for the sake of it, so I wouldn't buy it if you already have a working solution but if you need to replace it, go with something that will make your life easier.

Having TPI means this is a fully up to date thermostat - Nest trade on it being a "learning" thermostat which is partly about that sort of technology. Having to copy paste a pattern into the unit took me all of 3 minutes and I dont need to adjust the thermostat when I am away from the house because.. its set to fallback at 18.5c. Sure the smart thermostats are the future and all that, but, honestly, if you are on a budget, this is a stone-cold bargain.
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extra 20% off if u sign up as new customer, details on there homepage

Edited By: deanos on Dec 16, 2016 21:37: .
#13
I didn't get that deal! Good spot. So £40
#14
I don't have these thermostats, but I like Honeywell heating controls, they always seems easy to figure out and fit, with good documentation. Easy for someone with a basic knowledge of electrics and heating systems anyway. They might not be very "sexy" like some of the newer brands appear to be trying to be, but they are easy to program and never seem to break down.
#15
Can't go wrong with a ClimaPro2 remote, or the smart phone app from Vaillant group. This is a good price for a good fixed unit though.
#16
What's with the new moderation business? It said something about my comment needing to be checked and has now been posted twice - weird! I will now delete one.
#17
this is great price, voted hot!
3 Likes #18
RedmanDealer
Its a great price looking at it individually (most for £100+) and I would expect any Honeywell kit to be solid but it just feels like going back in time. Unless you are on a extremely strict budget, buying for a rental property or hate technology its far better to go for a smart option. Yes its got a 7 day timer but trust me, setting up a 7 day pattern on a Hive (and making subtle changes to it) is so much easier and that is before you get to the additional benefits of remote control etc.

I've got a Valliant Ecotec and it had such a basic analogue (daily timer) so I just went straight to Hive rather than buy 7 day timer. I'm not into making everything "Smart" for the sake of it, so I wouldn't buy it if you already have a working solution but if you need to replace it, go with something that will make your life easier.


actually, do you really need a heating control that can be controlled remotely? and do you really want a heating control that talks to the rest of the world and can be easily controlled by hackers to run their botnet.

I certainly don't. Hive Nest etc are based on the same fundamental technology as these units and only has a cpu that's more powerful and some ram that makes them store more information and a wireless connection. so it's not going back in time as much as buying a car without all the added options. I am always in the philosophy of keeping things simple when it comes to switches. the more complex you make it the more likely it will break. ESP for these critical elements.
#19
absolute rubbish . gone through 3 of these in 1 year ... cheaply made . risk of catching fire .. avoid !!!
#20
serialkillerdna
absolute rubbish . gone through 3 of these in 1 year ... cheaply made . risk of catching fire .. avoid !!!

"risk of catching on fire"? BS! They are battery powered.
#21
Screen will probably fail on these like my previous Honeywell!
#23
cactusjack86
Can't go wrong with a ClimaPro2 remote, or the smart phone app from Vaillant group. This is a good price for a good fixed unit though.

Erm, it's wireless.. if that's what you mean. The standard wired in Honeywells cost more than £50

Edited By: breslau on Dec 17, 2016 07:44
#24
JAMAL
Screen will probably fail on these like my previous Honeywell!
I read about that and that seems to have been a problem with the Honeywell stats a few years ago which they have hopefully sorted now, but at least for this price you can replace it without it being a big deal.

Guy here suggests it was a problem with the connection to the circuit board
http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/honeywell-cm927-lcd-screen-fail-common-1058940-.htm
#25
I have this exact one. Works on room temperature, that's the room it's placed in. I would rather have had one that I could set to come on and off at specific times, if I was buying again I would not choose this one.
#26
JarrodWRX
I have this exact one. Works on room temperature, that's the room it's placed in. I would rather have had one that I could set to come on and off at specific times, if I was buying again I would not choose this one.

This one has a programmable 7 day timer .. normally set to come on at different temperatures 4 times a day.. 6am, 9am, 5pm, 10pm for example. So you dont have this one.
#27
breslau
JAMAL
Screen will probably fail on these like my previous Honeywell!
I read about that and that seems to have been a problem with the Honeywell stats a few years ago which they have hopefully sorted now, but at least for this price you can replace it without it being a big deal.
Guy here suggests it was a problem with the connection to the circuit board http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/honeywell-cm927-lcd-screen-fail-common-1058940-.htm

I replaced it with a nest and never looked back! Having set heating schedules when weather is different everyday seems weird looking back.
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JarrodWRX
I have this exact one. Works on room temperature, that's the room it's placed in. I would rather have had one that I could set to come on and off at specific times, if I was buying again I would not choose this one.


Errmm, did you actually read the description before making yourself look really stupid?
#29
JAMAL
breslau
JAMAL
Screen will probably fail on these like my previous Honeywell!
I read about that and that seems to have been a problem with the Honeywell stats a few years ago which they have hopefully sorted now, but at least for this price you can replace it without it being a big deal.
Guy here suggests it was a problem with the connection to the circuit board http://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/honeywell-cm927-lcd-screen-fail-common-1058940-.htm
I replaced it with a nest and never looked back! Having set heating schedules when weather is different everyday seems weird looking back.

Except.. the temperature is always set to be the same, so when it's warm it doesn't come on?
#30
Damn, i bought this about a month ago and there was no 20% off at the time, gutted. Heat added.
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My 10yr old thermostat packed in this morning- perfect timing for this - 40quid - even if it lasts a year - I'll be happy. thanks OP.
#32
We don't have a thermostat in our house. And only have thermostatic valves on radiator. Is it poss to wire one in. Is it wireless (receiver with sender on boiler). I'm pretty good with electronics as well.
#33
garethmob1
We don't have a thermostat in our house. And only have thermostatic valves on radiator. Is it poss to wire one in. Is it wireless (receiver with sender on boiler). I'm pretty good with electronics as well.
All modern rads have to have the room thermostats on them I think. You just need to make sure the radiator in the room with the thermostat is set to full.
Definitely worth having a thermostat as you will cut your gas bill. Just make sure it's compatible..
#34
wong_go_wild
actually, do you really need a heating control that can be controlled remotely? and do you really want a heating control that talks to the rest of the world and can be easily controlled by hackers to run their botnet.
I certainly don't. Hive Nest etc are based on the same fundamental technology as these units and only has a cpu that's more powerful and some ram that makes them store more information and a wireless connection. so it's not going back in time as much as buying a car without all the added options. I am always in the philosophy of keeping things simple when it comes to switches. the more complex you make it the more likely it will break. ESP for these critical elements.

Having experienced live with and without Hive, I'd say yes I'd much rather have the remote option than not. I tend to keep the heating off as much as possible so this allows me to ramp up the temp just before getting home so we don't come back to a freezing house.

There's only so much you can worry about security, I'd be more worried about no-name wireless IP cameras and such like that will never be updated or supported past the first few months. Not that worried about botnets that's a problem for Hive and your ISP, as long as they are not infiltrating the rest of your network. Unlike a car to the Hive, the worst hackers can do is turn off your heating or put it to max.

As for reliability, Hive will be no more or less reliable than a traditional set up - if you lose your network/internet connection, the programme stays intact and you can still control it from the thermostat directly. If you lose any other components, it'll be the same as losing the receiver/thermostat on the Honeywell.
#35
unless you live by yourself and work for the intelligence agency or some kind of improv social butterfly I very much doubt you have a need to change your heating settings on a daily or even hourly basis. it's a gimmick.
#36
wong_go_wild
unless you live by yourself and work for the intelligence agency or some kind of improv social butterfly I very much doubt you have a need to change your heating settings on a daily or even hourly basis. it's a gimmick.
And if you live in an older house.. letting it get freezing cold when you aren't around leaves you with a damp house.
#37
breslau
wong_go_wild
unless you live by yourself and work for the intelligence agency or some kind of improv social butterfly I very much doubt you have a need to change your heating settings on a daily or even hourly basis. it's a gimmick.
And if you live in an older house.. letting it get freezing cold when you aren't around leaves you with a damp house.


thats why this 7 day programmable thermostat is what you need.
#38
errrr2
JarrodWRX
I have this exact one. Works on room temperature, that's the room it's placed in. I would rather have had one that I could set to come on and off at specific times, if I was buying again I would not choose this one.


Errmm, did you actually read the description before making yourself look really stupid?


What are you talking about ?
Can you see mine ? No.
I have this one and will be changing it as it's terrible.
#39
Are any additional parts needed to fit this? i.e a sender unit?
#40
fonzie2107
Are any additional parts needed to fit this? i.e a sender unit?
Delayed reaction.. this comes with the rf receiver and the thermostat box. Doesn't require anything else, other than wire to wire it into the boiler. It's basically the same as wiring in a Honeywell wireless stat.

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