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I thought I would share this as I haven't seen it as a deal before and thought it may be useful.

The idea is you buy credit - €10 + VAT and 'handling fee' which should equate to around ~£14.

When you buy credit you automatically get 90 days free credit to a bunch of countries.

They have a fair usage policy of 300 minutes per IP per week.

Once you go over their fair usage policy or your 90 days, you then are put onto a tariff which has still pretty cheap rates.

Credit lasts indefinitely, contrary to what I originally put.

They also provide allow you to make 1 minute trial calls to see if you wish to go further.

Their service is available as follows (for ringing):
* Program on your computer
* Mobile Phone application
* SIP Devices
* Phone-to-phone (creates a 3 way call but does charge you twice for each destination)
* Access Number (Not recommended at all)

However, they also provide SMS services which even allow you to use your own number.

Whilst some of you may note that betamax clones are not the best quality in the world and I would agree, it does mean even if you are quite a heavy user - you may only need to top up once every 4-8 months depending on how much you use it and how you use it.

I will add some links in my post below for further details and my set up so people can think about something similar should they wish.

Any further questions or if someone needs help, I would be more than happy to assist.
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#1
Their call rates including those which are 'free' - http://www.voipcheap.com/en/calling-rates.html
Out of free days prices - http://www.voipcheap.com/en/freetrial.html

My set up at home.

A SIP Device -
Mine happens to be a Gigaset c475ip but the a580ip should work just as well and cheaper.

It connects to the landline so it means I can call out using voipcheap (even spoofing my caller id) and people can call me using the same number they are used too.


Gigaset connected to a router via its lan ports which has its wi-fi linked as its WAN making a connection to my main router (See dd-wrt wiki client bridge or mode). Thereby giving my Gigaset wi-fi connection but same thing could be produced by a powerline.

As it is used for my parents, I made it as fool proof as possible, it automatically uses voipcheap as its default connection and never falls back to use the land line and since that means that should any problems occur with the Ryanair equivilant for VoIP I have set up a backup using localphone voip provider which is still fairly cheap and will provide another route to call if urgent.

All 0800 numbers are automatically routed to use the land line using the gigaset's dialling plan as well as 150 and 151 since we have a virgin media land line.



Edited By: shadowdogg on May 25, 2011 02:28: k
#2
seems they don't offer you any incoming number. for me sipgate is the best out there as they give you a free local number !
#3
Roughly how much does this cost per month? I know that'll depend on how much you talk. But looking for a rough estimate here.
#4
You do know , I take it ,that Skype have been doing this for years and you have the option of an online number for a set monthly fee ,to various countries (landline and mobile ,to some)
#5
Really good company,used them couple years ago. Most EU destination landline calls are free or 1 Eurocent. Nice iPhone app, great call quality. Local access phone number all across the world usefull as well. Now have Vectone sim, even better call quality,incoming number and cheap 5p all UK calls as well.
#6
You can also use mobile phone credit to topup your account. The conversion rate is shocking but it's a good way to get rid of unwanted credit on a PAYG card.
#7
I've been using these for at least 4 years now as the offer was better than Skype.
All calls go through them via a Camrivox flexor unit which defaults to normal service provider (Virgin cable) when Internet not turned on.
Call quality sometimes can be poor but generally acceptable.
As far as rates are concerned when freedays are amortised Skype is not as cheap.
However in the event of a problem (never had one though) they is absolutely NO way to get support.

Edited By: Verbal Kint on May 25, 2011 07:46
#8
I use Skype cause I didn't know about these providers. I can tell you Skype isn't cheap and the quality is no way near good. I will try this one. Thanks OP.
#9
or JustVoip, 120 freedays, credit never expires, and you can get an incoming number (for a £1 or something like that)
#10
jsoap
or JustVoip, 120 freedays, credit never expires, and you can get an incoming number (for a £1 or something like that)


As for incoming number,its true you can get one for £1 , but this will start 0560....... for the UK,so not included in any call allowance, shame really.
#11
Iv'e been using voipstunt for years with that you don't need a headset, you ring the number on the pc your house phone rings you pick up and it rings the number you want,Miles better than using a headset its no different to a normal call,You could still use the headset if you wanted to.I think most of these voip companys are the same company anyway.
#12
http://www.smartvoip.com/en/calling-rates.html
OR
http://www.actionvoip.com/en/calling-rates.html#leti
SmartVoip or ActionVoip has better rates than this. It has the same features

If you read the about us link. All (SmartV, ActionV, and VoiceC) are from same company

Voting Cold
#13
shadowdogg

My set up at home.

A SIP Device -
Mine happens to be a Gigaset c475ip but the a580ip should work just as well and cheaper.

It connects to the landline so it means I can call out using voipcheap (even spoofing my caller id) and people can call me using the same number they are used too.


Gigaset connected to a router via its lan ports which has its wi-fi linked as its WAN making a connection to my main router (See dd-wrt wiki client bridge or mode). Thereby giving my Gigaset wi-fi connection but same thing could be produced by a powerline.

As it is used for my parents, I made it as fool proof as possible, it automatically uses voipcheap as its default connection and never falls back to use the land line and since that means that should any problems occur with the Ryanair equivilant for VoIP I have set up a backup using localphone voip provider which is still fairly cheap and will provide another route to call if urgent.

All 0800 numbers are automatically routed to use the land line using the gigaset's dialling plan as well as 150 and 151 since we have a virgin media land line.




I've been using Voipcheap for years and experience shows that it's not particularly reliable. Don't get me wrong, when it works, it's great. But it doesn't always connect to the number dialed and the quality can be poor when it does. So it can't be depended on solely as your only phone connection and you still need a landline/mobile backup.

But thanks for the info on the Gigaset phones and I'm now considering buying one to see if it improves matters. I'm currently using a DECT phone connected to my VOIP router which in turn is wired to my Virgin/Netgear modem/router. Ever since I implemented this setup reliabilty has gone totally downhill.

Shadowdogg, do you know whether it's possible to access the Gigaset's config pages remotely via the Internet?



Edited By: Eric Badger on May 25, 2011 10:40: to correct an omission
#14
Eric Badger
Shadowdogg, do you know whether it's possible to access the Gigaset's config pages remotely via the Internet?


Hi, it indeed is. Just need to set up the option 'from another network'. Not entirely sure if you can change the ports but it certainly may be possible by doing a more advanced port forward by changing port 80 to 400 or something.
#15
jayakaranganji
http://www.smartvoip.com/en/calling-rates.html
OR
http://www.actionvoip.com/en/calling-rates.html#leti
SmartVoip or ActionVoip has better rates than this. It has the same features

If you read the about us link. All (SmartV, ActionV, and VoiceC) are from same company

Voting Cold


I fail to see how actionvoip is better when it voipcheap has free rates. Obviously with betamax companies it really depends how you use them. Since mine lasts around £14 every 4-5 months, I don't see how anyone can really complain at that.

Mine is set up perfectly and only time I have some issues is ringing up Ireland.

Which is also a reason why I use voipcheap, it is free to ring up Ireland and most of my family is from there. Voipcheap seems to be the best for most people and good as a starter in my opinion.
#16
I also found out your credit doesn't expire after 6 months. I have read so many VOIP providers lately that I must have got confused

14.1. Credit, purchased using any payment method, is valid for an indefinite period of time. There is no limit to the maximum amount of credit per user account.
#17
Wotan
Roughly how much does this cost per month? I know that'll depend on how much you talk. But looking for a rough estimate here.


Well, really you pay for it up front of your £14 then it depends how it lasts more than anything else. Average for us around 4 hours a week speaking to Ireland and since we use gigaset now, it probably lasts around 5 months. Therefore for us, £2.80 per month.
#18
shadowdogg
I also found out your credit doesn't expire after 6 months. I have read so many VOIP providers lately that I must have got confused

14.1. Credit, purchased using any payment method, is valid for an indefinite period of time. There is no limit to the maximum amount of credit per user account.


I can confirm that. I've had unused credit sitting in one of my Voipcheap accounts for well over 6 months.
#19
shadowdogg
Eric Badger
Shadowdogg, do you know whether it's possible to access the Gigaset's config pages remotely via the Internet?


Hi, it indeed is. Just need to set up the option 'from another network'. Not entirely sure if you can change the ports but it certainly may be possible by doing a more advanced port forward by changing port 80 to 400 or something.


Thanks. I've ordered a couple of Gigasets. Hopefully they will sort out all the current problems.
#20
Eric Badger
shadowdogg
Eric Badger
Shadowdogg, do you know whether it's possible to access the Gigaset's config pages remotely via the Internet?


Hi, it indeed is. Just need to set up the option 'from another network'. Not entirely sure if you can change the ports but it certainly may be possible by doing a more advanced port forward by changing port 80 to 400 or something.


Thanks. I've ordered a couple of Gigasets. Hopefully they will sort out all the current problems.


When you get it, drop me a PM and I shall just screenshot my settings for voipcheap so you can rule out any other problems as you go.

I would certainly recommend having a backup voip provider though and the one I mentioned before seems to be the 2nd best (outside of betamax clones of course) and it seems as little as £1 can be added.

Edited By: shadowdogg on May 25, 2011 17:01
#21
Eric Badger
shadowdogg
Eric Badger
Shadowdogg, do you know whether it's possible to access the Gigaset's config pages remotely via the Internet?


Hi, it indeed is. Just need to set up the option 'from another network'. Not entirely sure if you can change the ports but it certainly may be possible by doing a more advanced port forward by changing port 80 to 400 or something.


Thanks. I've ordered a couple of Gigasets. Hopefully they will sort out all the current problems.


call clarity is amazing on gigaset phones. highly recommended.
you can also use its built-in gigaset account to make unlimited free calls between gigaset phones.
#22
dwl99
You can also use mobile phone credit to topup your account. The conversion rate is shocking but it's a good way to get rid of unwanted credit on a PAYG card.


sounds good, how do you do that ? sorry can't find much info on their website.
#23
What a major flip this deal was. Oh well.

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