Cheapest Panasonic AG-HMC151 Pro camcorder with free accessory bundle £2931.63 @ Pro Active UK - HotUKDeals
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Proactive UK have a deal on at the mo for the HMC151 Camera. I know this isn't going to be everyone's taste and budget but good price and you get some freebies as well (16gb SD card, Edius Neo2 software, battery and a HMC book)
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#1
I'll take 3!!

Heat added.
#2
Worth it just for the 16GB SD card.
#3
anyone tried it compared to the canon -- i will see tomorrow but cash is tight with no business for 2 weeks
#5
a bargain great quality
#6
The Pro visual one is not UK warrantied stock.... Would go for that then if you don't mind sending your camera back to Taiwan when there is a problem. The ProAV version is the cheapest UK stock.... And also notice that there is no Pana logo or any other logo on their site... They are not allowed to use the logos. Brands are now trying to cut down on grey imports.
#7
Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of the video output of this Panasonic, and the video from a Canon 7D / 5DMk2
#8
Gobbie
The Pro visual one is not UK warrantied stock.... Would go for that then if you don't mind sending your camera back to Taiwan when there is a problem. The ProAV version is the cheapest UK stock.... And also notice that there is no Pana logo or any other logo on their site... They are not allowed to use the logos. Brands are now trying to cut down on grey imports.


Wouldnt consumer law protect you in this scenario - i.e. if you have a problem in the first year you take it back to the retiler - its their problem if they have to deal with Taiwan...


And with a credit card possibly get a better warrenty too if you lucky enought to have one of those credit cars which warrenty electriical purchaises?
#9
Am I missing something it says £2,379.99
???
#10
gizmouk
Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of the video output of this Panasonic, and the video from a Canon 7D / 5DMk2
Ditto.
#11
Is it just me, or does it look like the one Del Boy was trying to sell in one of the Only Fools and Horses Christmas special?
#12
philh777
Is it just me, or does it look like the one Del Boy was trying to sell in one of the Only Fools and Horses Christmas special?

:-D
#13
matt_n_mich
Am I missing something it says £2,379.99
???


says £2495 to me
#14
oh the vat... ok
#15
very nice i am very happy, but with my canon 5D mk2 which records excellent qulity full hd video
#16
does it come with a free neck strap?
#17
battery is included as well? what a steal!
#18
Just curious, how much would you need to pay to get HD brardcasr quality?
#19
John Mason
Just curious, how much would you need to pay to get HD brardcasr quality?
I think anywhere between £1500-£3000 would be a sensible figure.
#20
This shoots AVCHD which is a form of long gop mpeg4 compression, which is awful.

I actually rate the video that the Canon 5D produces highly, it's very popular with our clients at the moment. Only problem is it shoot 30fps. @tigger I wouldn't call it full HD it's about 35mbits/s tops.
#21
gizmouk
Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison of the video output of this Panasonic, and the video from a Canon 7D / 5DMk2


the 5dmk2 is a dead loss for grading BTW.

pic quality is one thing, but how do you use it? with the 5d you're either on a tripod or it's time to pay out for a red rock rig, plus a couple of weights on the back end to balance it out (trust me, you need it). without the red rock as well, focus is a pain on the 5d as the lenses are too high geared for video.

5d has no decent audio recording facility, so add on the cost of that as well.

and btw neither can be used for commercial projects without buying a license BTW... read this

i've shot stuff on the 5d at iso 800 and had the saturated non-green colours shimmer because of the noise (of course the sensors sample red/blue at half the frequency of green. add noise = video disaster)

the one thing its got is the 35mm sensor + half decent lenses = shallow depth of field. but then, like 3d, its getting old. that isn't going to make up for a **** poor script, bad acting, poor lighting or inept editing. and don't get me started on sound.

not seen this cam yet, but making out the 5/7d are the be all and end all is wrong and missing the point.
#22
Wish I could afford it as a super expensive toy :D

I will admit I am amazed by the knowledge on these forums...!
#23
is this any good for making backups of movies that i see in the cinema?
#24
Dubtitled
This shoots AVCHD which is a form of long gop mpeg4 compression, which is awful.

I actually rate the video that the Canon 5D produces highly, it's very popular with our clients at the moment. Only problem is it shoot 30fps. @tigger I wouldn't call it full HD it's about 35mbits/s tops.


The last couple of firmware upgrades for the 5dmkii have fixed this with the option of "24 fps" but if you need to be told about that significant update from like half a year ago then what are you doing advising people on here ;p :whistling:

did you know the 5dmkii was used to entirely shoot the last episode of the popular TV series House M.D.

Gives you an idea of the broadcast quality.
#25
FurCough
the 5dmk2 is a dead loss for grading BTW.

pic quality is one thing, but how do you use it? with the 5d you're either on a tripod or it's time to pay out for a red rock rig, plus a couple of weights on the back end to balance it out (trust me, you need it). without the red rock as well, focus is a pain on the 5d as the lenses are too high geared for video.

5d has no decent audio recording facility, so add on the cost of that as well.

and btw neither can be used for commercial projects without buying a license BTW... read this

i've shot stuff on the 5d at iso 800 and had the saturated non-green colours shimmer because of the noise (of course the sensors sample red/blue at half the frequency of green. add noise = video disaster)

the one thing its got is the 35mm sensor + half decent lenses = shallow depth of field. but then, like 3d, its getting old. that isn't going to make up for a **** poor script, bad acting, poor lighting or inept editing. and don't get me started on sound.

not seen this cam yet, but making out the 5/7d are the be all and end all is wrong and missing the point.



If the 5D Mk2 is so bad, how come a large chunk of Ironman 2 was shot using it (them) ?
#26
R O N N I E

did you know the 5dmkii was used to entirely shoot the last episode of the popular TV series House M.D.

Gives you an idea of the broadcast quality.


It's also used quite extensively in the advertising and broadcast markets.
#27
I agree that DSLRs such as the 5d/7d are a pain to use but the superior image quality is obvious. The best way to think of the difference is watch a news report or a documentary - this is the type of quality that you will get from pro camcorders such as this Panny.

They are handy as they can record pro audio through XLR and have autofocus etc, and are are an obvious choice for reportage. Just point and shoot.

Now turn to any (or most) films, and you will see the clear difference in look. Narrow depth of field, high contrast. Not truly accurate in the real sense, but very pleasing to the eye - just like the 35mm film that we have been seeing in the cinema for decades. This is the type of look you will get from the larger sensors on the 5d/7d and used with skill it can look wonderful. I have to say I have not had any problem colour grading my 5d. And as for no professional audio input? Neither has a £100k Arri rig. For any serious project you would record externally, nevertheless that important firmware update allowed more flexibility in the audio recording on the 5d.

So, it all depends on what you want to do. If you do choose the dslr route, you'd better brush up on your knowledge of exposure, aperture, shutter speed, DoF etc and of course how to effectively use those manual focus prime lenses.

This doesn't look a bad deal though, and would be the obvious choice for one-take situations in documentaries/reportage where that 35mm filmic look might be incongruous.

Just my $0.02
#28
LOUGHBORO GUY
a bargain great quality


It must be good if Loughboro Guy says so PMSL
#29
R O N N I E
The last couple of firmware upgrades for the 5dmkii have fixed this with the option of "24 fps" but if you need to be told about that significant update from like half a year ago then what are you doing advising people on here ;p :whistling:

did you know the 5dmkii was used to entirely shoot the last episode of the popular TV series House M.D.

Gives you an idea of the broadcast quality.


24fps is still an NTSC framerate which would be just as useless to us. As it is the 30fps isn't a problem for us to standards convert in a professional post production house, but I doubt that's the case for the average consumer or low budget semi professional. Dealing with 5D footage weekly qualifies me to give my opinion.

Did you know lots of things are still shot DV, gives you an idea of broadcast quality aye? ;P :whistling:
#30
Dubtitled
24fps is still an NTSC framerate which would be just as useless to us. As it is the 30fps isn't a problem for us to standards convert in a professional post production house, but I doubt that's the case for the average consumer or low budget semi professional. Dealing with 5D footage weekly qualifies me to give my opinion.

Did you know lots of things are still shot DV, gives you an idea of broadcast quality aye? ;P :whistling:


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#31
Camera ops and people that work in production are morons. I don't get either of you, I've said I really like the footage it produces.
#32
Dubtitled
Camera ops and people that work in production are morons. I don't get either of you, I've said I really like the footage it produces.


Seems that they are !

I only stated that I'd like to see a comparison of the output from this camera to a 7D pr 5DMK2, and all I got was a couple of boozos starting a willy waving competition. :roll:

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