Compaq (HP) Mini 311c - 11.6" HD ION GRAPHICS Netbook - With Internal Mobile 3g - £274.95 plus 8% Quidco. - HotUKDeals
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This is currently the best netbook if you want to view HD Content and stream videos smoothly. It can also play some of the recent games on low settings.
It has a HDMI socket which not many other netbooks have.

Specs below:

Heres how to get it for £274.95:
(You can maybe go through quidco first to get 8% cashback)

1. Go to http://h30421.www3.hp.com/epp/home.do?country=uk&lang=en
2. Enter the email " [email protected] " to signin.
3. In the lookup part number box at the top type in ' VJ581EA ' and press enter.
4. Add to your basket then use the voucher code - EPPREG10
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banned#1
Heres how to get it for £274.95:
(You can maybe go through quidco first to get 8% cashback)

1. Go to http://h30421.www3.hp.com/epp/home.do?country=uk&lang=en
2. Enter the email " [email protected] " to signin.
3. In the lookup part number box at the top type in ' VJ581EA ' and press enter.
4. Add to your basket then use the voucher code - EPPREG10

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System features
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Operating system installed
Genuine Windows® XP Home Service Pack 3 (32-bit)
Processor type
Intel Atom Processor N270
1.60 GHz, Level 2 cache 512 KB

Memory
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Memory
1024 MB
Maximum memory
Supports up to 3 GB DDR3 memory

Storage
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Internal drives
SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm 160 GB

Graphics
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Display size (diagonal)
11.6 Diagonal HD LED BrightView Widescreen Display
Display resolution
1366 x 768
Graphic card
NVIDIA ION LE
Up to 319 MB Total Available Graphics Memory

Expansion features
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External I/O ports
3 USB 2.0, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ45 ethernet connector, 1 jack Headphone/Mic combo jack
Memory card device
5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, or xD Picture cards

Media devices
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1.3M Webcam
Webcam with Integrated Microphone
Speakers and microphone
Altec Lansing speakers

Input devices
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Pointing device
Touch Pad with dedicated vertical Scroll Up/Down
Keyboard
92% Full size keyboard

Communications
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Network interface
Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN
Wireless capability
Bluetooth® wireless networking
Broadband wireless
Integrated WWAN module. Wireless mobile broadband use requires separately purchased service contract. Check with service provider for coverage area and availability in your area

Dimensions and weight
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Product weight
1.46 kg
Weight will vary by configuration
Product dimensions (W x D x H)
28.9 cm (L) x 20.4 cm (W) x 1.98 (min H)/3.06 cm (max H)

Power
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Power supply type
90 W AC Power Adapter
Battery type
6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery
Energy efficiency compliance
ENERGY STAR® qualified

What's included
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Warranty
1 year, pick-up and return, parts and labour
Software included
Recovery partition (including possibility to recover system, applications and drivers separately)
Optional re-allocation of recovery partition
Recovery CD/DVD creation tool
Symantec Norton Internet Security 2009 (60 days live update)
Notebook Help & Support
Windows Media Player
HP Games Console with hours of free game play
HP Connection Manager
Microsoft® Internet Explorer
Windows® Live Messenger, Adobe® Reader, Adobe® Flash Player
Microsoft® Works and Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 60-Day Trial Version
#2
will this make a good http://boxee.tv/ setup?

will it handle youtube and iplayer hd video with ease if hooked upto a LCD tv?

looking for a media type nettop or netbook and this has potential. what do others think?
#3
Great netbook. Got one recently to setup for my niece. After tweaks (see myhpmini.com forums) I had it outputing Avatar 1080p trailers to an LCD TV over the HDMI connection. Picture quality was excellent and it played without any stutters. Try doing that on any of the other £220-£230 netbooks around - plus, I was able to upgrade the memory to 3Gig.

Unnecessary for XP I know, but it'll be ready for a Win7 upgrade at some point and boy that baby flys through all normal tasks

IMHO the 11.6" screen means you are getting back towards "laptop" size but it will still fit comfortably inside a briefcase or school rucksack and my Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop looked to be an absolute monster beside it.

At this price, if you were thinking of paying £220+ for a netbook, I honestly think you'd be mad not to squeeze that little bit further and buy this one.

Heat and Rep to OP
banned#4
Thanks for your comments :)

I've not actually bought this yet, though i've been thinking about it for a while.

Whats the battery life like that you get with this?
And is this alot bigger than a 10.1" netbook, as I want a small one for travel etc, and don't know if this is too big , going towards laptop size etc.?
banned#5
speedking
will this make a good http://boxee.tv/ setup?

will it handle youtube and iplayer hd video with ease if hooked upto a LCD tv?

looking for a media type nettop or netbook and this has potential. what do others think?


It should work fine.

I think boxee has gpu accelerated flash added to it now, so shouldnt be a problem.
#6
Thanks OP, know someone who wanted this before Xmas, but missed it last time.
Will send them this thread link
:thumbsup:
#7
I picked one of these up on the Orange deal via the HP site - and it's great. The delivery is also very quick (ordered late Tuesday night after Christmas - arrived 9.00am New Years Eve).
You might also want to pick up the matching sleeve / bag - which is only £10.50 less 8% quidco.

Anyone any success in upgrading to Win 7 ? Also, if I wanted to reinstall Windows XP to get rid of all the HP stuff, any advice on how to get things like the HP Connection Manager back ?

Cheers
banned#8
Did you get the matching sleeve/bag ? Whats it like ?
#9
jonnyfixit
Heres how to get it for £274.95:

1. Go to http://h30421.www3.hp.com/epp/home.do?country=uk&lang=en
2. [SIZE="3"]Enter the email " [email protected] " to signin.[/SIZE]
3. In the lookup part number box at the top type in ' VJ581EA ' and press enter.
4. Add to your basket then use the voucher code - EPPREG10

What’s the provenance of using the code [email protected]?
It seems to be a HP Employee Purchase Plan (EPP) code so I’m not sure if people are entitled to use this!!! It could possibly backfire so may be worth doing a bit of research.

Great price if it is kosher.
banned#10
Agharta
What’s the provenance of using the code [email protected]?
It seems to be a HP Employee Purchase Plan (EPP) code so I’m not sure if people are entitled to use this!!! It could possibly backfire so may be worth doing a bit of research.

Great price if it is kosher.


Maybe... but loads of people have purchased through this and even if they were not entitled they have still got it.

Nothing can happen anyway, all that can happen is they don't allow your order and cancel it.
But as I say this hasn't happened to anyone.
1 Like #11
jonnyfixit
Maybe... but loads of people have purchased through this and even if they were not entitled they have still got it.
Nothing can happen anyway, all that can happen is they don't allow your order and cancel it.
But as I say this hasn't happened to anyone.

Silly me I was thinking there may be an ethical angle to potentially defrauding a company. :?
#12
Bought - anyone know what the returns policy is like if i dont like it?
#13
I have one of these and can highly recommend it, I got it just before xmas when the last offer was on.

One thing to note, from what I can see quidco is only 4% now not 8%
#14
jonnyfixit
Did you get the matching sleeve/bag ? Whats it like ?


Does this come with the sleeve/bag? or a seperate purchase do you have link?

Thanks
#15
mr keys
Does this come with the sleeve/bag? or a seperate purchase do you have link?

Thanks


Doesnt come with a sleeve, but if you look at the accessories page on the site you will see a few options
#16
Jakg
Bought - anyone know what the returns policy is like if i dont like it?

Yes, HP will send someone to visit you in prison to collect it. :w00t:
banned#17
Agharta
Yes, HP will send someone to visit you in prison to collect it. :w00t:


Thats a bit far
#18
Standard netbooks with Atom and the intel chipset are generally poor machines. By poor I mean under powered.

The ION based netbooks are better, allow for more RAM via upgrades, and have at least passable gfx subsystems.

I'd not say this is cheap, to me netbooks should not cross the £250 barrier.
The intel based machines should not be more than £199, and I'd suggest people don't buy them for more than this. Anything over £300 is lunacy as you can buy vastly better machinery for that kind of cost, with better specs across the board.
#19
Good resolution output for a netbook IMO and HDMI is a neat touch.
#20
I got the non 3g for 248, I use my nexus one for 3g on the laptop.
#21
AdmV0rl0n
Standard netbooks with Atom and the intel chipset are generally poor machines. By poor I mean under powered.

The ION based netbooks are better, allow for more RAM via upgrades, and have at least passable gfx subsystems.

I'd not say this is cheap, to me netbooks should not cross the £250 barrier.
The intel based machines should not be more than £199, and I'd suggest people don't buy them for more than this. Anything over £300 is lunacy as you can buy vastly better machinery for that kind of cost, with better specs across the board.


Id agree with your comments on atom netbooks not going over £200 but Id say anything under £300 for an Ion Powered netbook is a good price TBH, the ION PC's go for £150-£200! It may not be a beast but it can hold its own on a gaming front:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EoSNHykpek&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwuP8ap01g0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prds3x0dkUI

Its small, Has a good battery life (5+ hours apparently) and this model comes with a 3G modem so its a pretty good for an extra £100 ontop of a standard atom netbook
#22
The ION is basically 9400m chipset and gfx.

Its simply not worth more than £250. And intel gfx of any kind should mean buyer being very thrifty as these are fundamentally the worst gfx in the market place, and are viable only for basic media and 2d work, with very limited coverage in other areas.

ION is not a chipset that costs especially more to make, so no encouragement on premium there. And anyone delivering a netbook today, with 3 year old tech, and the same intel/MS limits of 160GB max disk, and 1GB ram, deserves down marking for treading water in market and giving their customers stagnation.

So, back to my recommendations.
£150 - £199max - Atom / intel chipsets GMA500/945/950. Pay no more than this.
£200 - £250max - Atom + ION. The 9400m is better, but not worth any heavy premium.
£250 - £300max - Intel GFX laptops, GMA gfx of any kind, including 4500. Simple intergrated Intel gfx are poor and not worth premiums. Pay no more for these, no matter what 'extra's a vendor tries to offer.

Note on netbook reviews.
You'll see quite a lot of reviews on netbooks, where 90% of the system remains virtually unchanged. And the price is up on what it was. These reviews should be ignored. No netbook today with Atom + GMA 500/945/950 1gb RAM, AND 160gb drive deserves 'good reviews'. These are old, tired, limited technology, not in favour of consumers in any way now. And only cheapness can commend them.

You will see a lot of inventory clean out as newer atom machines come through. But if you still see 1GB ram in there, it does not deserve interest. The same for hard disk sizes. Do not reward these tech companies for this negative output.
#23
An 11.6" Untralight laptop with a full resolution size screen.
Useful graphics and a proper 1366 x 768 screen.

The perfect student laptop. HDMI out also makes it versatile.
1GB Ram is fine in XP. In fact 2GB would normally lower battery life.
#24
Agharta;7549871
Silly me I was thinking there may be an ethical angle to potentially defrauding a company. :?


[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Navy]+1[/COLOR] - I was concerned about this as well, as there is the potential of it back firing.

Cheers, Scotty Boy! :thumbsup:[/FONT]
1 Like #25
Nice lift from my post last night on the other HP Compaq thread :thumbsup::-

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/567586/compaq-mini-110c-179-the-carphone-w?page=10

But.....credit should be given to Zipper, who originally advised this route for the HP Entertainment Notebook.
#26
This was on my shortlist but then the sub £200 Medion Akoya was available to me.You cannot fault HP for excellent build quality though.
#27
AdmV0rl0n

So, back to my recommendations.
£150 - £199max - Atom / intel chipsets GMA500/945/950. Pay no more than this.
£200 - £250max - Atom + ION. The 9400m is better, but not worth any heavy premium.
£250 - £300max - Intel GFX laptops, GMA gfx of any kind, including 4500. Simple intergrated Intel gfx are poor and not worth premiums. Pay no more for these, no matter what 'extra's a vendor tries to offer.


I would genuinely (in a non-confrontational way! :) ) be interested which Intel GFX laptop you would recommend in the £250 - £300 price bracket that is better than what is offered by an ION Netbook? By that I mean a similar battery life, size, graphics output? I agree the GMA gfx are pants, stay away, but most laptops in this range have larger screens (i.e. bigger so not as portable) and a much worse battery life

To my mind only a CULV laptop offers a better all round experience like you desribe (apart from gaming where the 9400 is better, or so I have read). However currently a CULV laptop costs over £400. I am happy to be corrected however if I have missed something!
2 Likes #28
LadyEleanor
An 11.6" Untralight laptop with a full resolution size screen.
Useful graphics and a proper 1366 x 768 screen.

The perfect student laptop. HDMI out also makes it versatile.
1GB Ram is fine in XP. In fact 2GB would normally lower battery life.


In todays environment, 1GB is barely enough. The prime cause of this is that if you run XP, you will need to run some security products, and many of these have quite heavy performance penalties. The issue anyway is not RAM size per say. The issue is they are making people over pay for ONLY 1GB, offering systems that will only accept 2GB, and often obsure or make awkward the upgrade option, or make access panels difficult.

Let me explain this fully from the consumer side. I'll use one example. Dell
The Mini 9 was produced, and this unit was loved because it was 'hot roddable' The only real core issue was storage of HD space being a cookie interface and sized SSD. This system was cheap, and had 1GB ram. It had a max 2GB ram capability, an Atom and the Intel GFX chipset.

It got superceded by the 1011 model. The ram slot on this was put under the keyboard, and requires virtally complete dis-assembly to reach. The story is that Dell got pressurised to do this, as MS and Intel did not want Atom based units actually competing with larger laptops.

This is an example of taking a base product, and actually worsening the design for the consumer. The 1011 is less upgradable, and less customer friendly than a previous design, and its been done for reasons that are simply not in favour of end user or consumer at all. And such machines are only acceptable if they are low cost.

The reason people should consider ION and perhaps this HP, is because it has ION, and ION allows 3GB of ram, allowing for an end user to modernise and keep the machine running in the real world for longer. And XP is now 9 years old. To the consumer, do we really wish to lock them into an old system that lacks the upgrade side they actually deserve to have in the equipment they are considering. I don't deem this as acceptable. If people want to upgrade later 2GB is going to be a real world minimum on 7 - and as that is the ceiling on the Intel based chipset, this is worth downmarking. On ION, the limit is 3 which is far better in the real world.

Now, your point about RAM. Lets be clear about something. The amount of juice used by RAM, is small compared to the chipset requirement in the current ATOM based netbooks. Adding more ram to keep a system running right reduces the battery life only on paper.
I can assure you that paging to and from the drive because you are short of ram is both slower, and vastly more energy intensive than the small amount required to charge the ram, and this hugely outweighs any claims you may wish to state about RAM battery drainage.
#29
Stelph
I would genuinely (in a non-confrontational way! :) ) be interested which Intel GFX laptop you would recommend in the £250 - £300 price bracket that is better than what is offered by an ION Netbook? By that I mean a similar battery life, size, graphics output? I agree the GMA gfx are pants, stay away, but most laptops in this range have larger screens (i.e. bigger so not as portable) and a much worse battery life

To my mind only a CULV laptop offers a better all round experience like you desribe (apart from gaming where the 9400 is better, or so I have read). However currently a CULV laptop costs over £400. I am happy to be corrected however if I have missed something!


If you hunt around, you'll find low end 14" and 15" units that have intergrated solutions from Intel, ATI, and Nvidia. These often have larger hard disks, and 4GB of ram, and often a better CPU than Atom. I'm not claiming these are the same market as a netbook, I am merely saying that when a netbook hits 11" in size, and its spec stays crippled, but the price approaches that of the lower end laptop market, you start to pay a very great deal for 1GB and 160GB max drive size for that money. That is the primary reason why I put a ceiling on the netbook prices, and yes, speficially inclusive of ION. Don't be blinded by those letters. Attaching ION to a crippled system of low spec does not change what it is. Its still going to be a weak atom, with limited ram, and hd space, and paying over cost for it is madness.

Its def worth getting an ION netbook over an intel based unit, and its fine to pay more for it, I'm just saying don't pay too much more for it, because its not worth paying too much extra.
#30
I suffer from being "the free tech support guy" to an extended family circle and so in addition to playing with one of these ION netbooks over Christmas, I have been hunting for an indecisive pain in the bum who wanted a new laptop but "wasn't sure if they wanted a big laptop - and a netbook would be nice if I ever took it out - but I don't know how often I'll do that and maybe a DVD burner would be nice....

After wrecking my brains and my Net connection for 3 days trying to find a bargain for them, they went to their local PCworld and got an Acer 11.6" CULV machine for £300. - Refurb - Only 6 month warranty and possibly a managers special so not sure if it's available widely but a definite result for anyone who likes the size but wants more a bit more oomph than a netbook can provide.

Never hurts to check it out though....
#31
Have to say with regards to RAM, I fully intended to upgrade mine but to be honest it's perfect for me as it as at the moment with just 1gb (esp since RAM prices are crazy just now).

Ive been using it for pretty much everything including playing games online via steam and its running a treat.
#32
any other recommendations for a 12" laptop/netbook.
I use a a HP Compaq 2510p for work and like the portability/size.
#33
Damn! Just bought this yesterday with our work EPP scheme for 305. Grumble. Arriving today, so I suppose I can try to get £30 worth of usage over the weekend.........
#34
speedking
will this make a good http://boxee.tv/ setup?

will it handle youtube and iplayer hd video with ease if hooked upto a LCD tv?

looking for a media type nettop or netbook and this has potential. what do others think?


This is actually one that Boxee recomended for a setup:

http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/12/11/boxee-for-the-holidays/

Currently Youtube on an Atom is a but juddery because the atom processor is rubbish and cant cope with the decoding, however if you install Flash 10.1 Beta it allows the 9400 GPU to decode the flash content so itll run smoother.

Personally I am also looking at the HP Mini 311 as a media setup, the HDMI out means its very easy to plug into your HDTV and the ION chipset is capable of 1080p playback, plus being a netbook I can unplug it an take it around with me (which is the benefit over an Acer Revo!)
#35
Is this definitely 3G, can't see it in the description!:?
#36
Seem like a good deal. Voted hot.
#37
Good: nice as a video player, 720p looks good on a screen this size. Will be nice when flash acceleration is working fully too for iplayer/youtube HD (still a little buggy). The extra resolution is quite welcome too - 1024*600 starts to grate after a while (this has 70% more pixels). Nice battery life also for the size, and 3G also.

Bad: the processor - atoms struggle sometimes to load bigger webpages, and I'd like to see them move to dualcore atoms at least. Also 10" is the preferred size for me, you can squeeze 1280*720 in that still (which also means no upscaling needed for 720p video, unlike this). Also no Windows7.


They're getting there, maybe in 6 months they'll get the spec perfect :-)
#38
quality netbook, got some in the last deal, my quidco never tracked, so will have to get onto them about that, so ended up getting for this price.

what can i say, ive had just about every netbook out there, and while this hasnt got the very best battery life, its extremely well made, the aluminium keyboard is superb.

the 3g modem performs excellantly, drop another gig or two of ram in there and perfect for windows 7.

my only two gripes about it are :-

touchpad , could of been much better, its one of those whereit will be a bit insensitive when you want it to be sensitive, and then when you brush past it, its extremely sensitive.

sim card slot behine battery - yes you must power down to put sim card in, having it on the side would of been much much better.

other than that superb for the price, you cannot get a better netbook at the moment.
#39
looks like a nice netbook.

I've got a HP2133 that also has a hi-res screen and it makes such a difference. That uses a VIA cpu not an atom.

Its the nvidia ION and slightly bigger physical screen that may make me purchase this.

Just a pity it has windows tax as the HP2133 didn't have (suse linux) as I would replace it with ubuntu linux. Nvidia 3D graphics usually work well on linux.
#40
Keyboard and mouse pad performance very poor on this - just looks good!

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