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CPW Vario II Web n Walk £32.50/mo 18mos + Free copilot!

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I bought a brand new copilot today, deal was as follows:- Free T- Mobile Vario II Free CoPilot GPS System 18 months contract. £32.50 a month with 1gb internet access a month. The internet access can… Read More
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9y, 9m agoFound 9 years, 9 months ago
I bought a brand new copilot today, deal was as follows:-
Free T- Mobile Vario II
Free CoPilot GPS System

18 months contract.

£32.50 a month with 1gb internet access a month.
The internet access can also be used via a laptop if required.
The tariff is Flext25.

Online price is much higher.
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#1
Flex 25 is £25 web and walk £7.50 for unlimited internet so £32.50

T-mobile direct offers 25% off your tariff and web and walk so should work out to £24.38 but no more the £25 per month cause i'm on that tariff.

As for the price of the vario ll seems quite steep.
#2
hmm, so this was instore? was in my local CPW today but couldn't see any vario II's.

Am thinking of changing over to Web n Walk but can't decide whether to go for the Vario II or wait until the Vario III.......:thinking:
#3
T-Mobile are only doing £5 off your bill now, not 25% like they did before.
#4
lance w
Flex 25 is £25 web and walk £7.50 for unlimited internet so £32.50

T-mobile direct offers 25% off your tariff and web and walk so should work out to £24.38 but no more the £25 per month cause i'm on that tariff.

As for the price of the vario ll seems quite steep.

It was free, and you got free satnav!

£109 on the t-mobile site for the phone without the copilot.

The internet access is pretty cool, it works on hsdpa (sp?) which means I can download stuff at 1mb or more!
#5
Lots of vario2 (aka hermes) info here for those interested...

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes

I have unlocked mine and upgraded to WM6 from info I got on this site - great little device, but I do worry about the sturdyness of the slide out keyboard (not that it has caused any problems so far).

If anyone is after a cheaper way of getting one of these new ones often go on ebay for well under £200

Be aware that there is a new Hermes due out very soon...
#6
Thanks for the link dave!
#7
The Vario III is due very soon, and personally I'd wait. Obviously it won't be free, but it has a lot of upgraded features, including a built-in GPS receiver. I currently have a Vario 2 which is good, but the co-pilot receiver isn't good. I have read very good reports on the Qstarz Q818 GPS receiver, but it was only available through ebay :-( last time I checked.

Anyway there's a couple of reviews of the Vario III below

Vario III / HTC Kaiser / TyTN II / HTC P4550 Review
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article727.html
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/08/28/htc_launches_tytn_2/
#8
Vario 3 coming out soon also the iphone.
#9
Gazbert
T-Mobile are only doing £5 off your bill now, not 25% like they did before.



That's a shame. :x I can upgrade this month after waiting 17 months and i want to stay on the same contract but just get the line rental discount of £15 off per month for not taking a new phone.
#10
worst deal EVER

vario 3 out now
copilot = ****

contract = expensive
#11
Any idea where I can get a vario 3?
#12
khizman
Any idea where I can get a vario 3?


here

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=151713

seems like t-mobile version is delayed
#13
T-Mobile will be releasing the Vario 3 (Kaiser) sometime after the 20th of this month. With the current Vario 2 coming in at £40 with FlexT35 I'm going to guess the Vario 3 will be just under the £90 - £100 mark on the same price plan.
#14
guv
Ive got a Vario2 on T-Mobile. The PDA is fine and there is no point in Co-Pilot, since you can bluetooth a good receiver and run TomTom anyway.


why not use the built-in GPS and tomtom?
#15
There is no built in GPS in the Vario II
#16
Kallisti
There is no built in GPS in the Vario II


ah.

a bit stupid providing copilot with it then....
#17
dudedude
ah.

a bit stupid providing copilot with it then....

I think you need to do some reading! The co-pilot package contains both a hardware bluetooth GPS receiver and the software to load on to your phone (or pocket pc etc).
#18
I got mine today
It came with a Bluetooth GPS reciever, Software and in car kit,
worth ~60-70 on eBay.
#19
This must be a store offer, my local CPW is not offering this unfortunately!
#20
Kallisti
There is no built in GPS in the Vario II


Funny thing is, there is a built in GPS chip in the vario 2 but the antenae has been shorted out rendering it useless:x .

It works really well with a bluetooth GPS though, which can be found quite cheaply these days.

Dave.
#21
sureshot
I think you need to do some reading! The co-pilot package contains both a hardware bluetooth GPS receiver and the software to load on to your phone (or pocket pc etc).


nope, I fully understand, I just don't see why T-Mobile are marketing a compact PDA for GPS, when you have to carry a separate bluetooth receiver as well. It's just not sensible, they should direct people wanting GPS to one of the HTC range with built in GPS.
#22
Please can someone direct me to a good deal with gps,wlan pda/phone, contract needs to have >500mins. Thanks.
#23
guv
. Having a seperate receiver means (a) you have a wide range of receivers to choose from and (b) are not dependant on an inferior inbuilt receiver in the all in one box. (c) I can choose what mapping software I use.


Just to add on to the above... having a separate bluetooth GPS module also means you can place it somewhere away from the phone/PDA for better satellite reception. With a device that has it built in, you are pretty much stuck with the reception you get where you need the device to be placed so it can be seen. Some people might get good reception regardless of location but some don't and so a separate GPS module will help :)
#24
guv
On the contrary. Having a seperate receiver means (a) you have a wide range of receivers to choose from and (b) are not dependant on an inferior inbuilt receiver in the all in one box. (c) I can choose what mapping software I use.

Mine works fine - and indoors. I doubt very much the all in one solution would do that. Mine can lock onto 32 sats - and there is a 42 sat solution available. Ive no idea what the receiver is in the all in one - but I'd gamble its inferior.


Actually GPS tech is pretty much fixed on the SiRFSTAR III chipset, which is superb, and much better than older GPS technology.

Most current GPS receivers contain this same GPS chipset inside, just different styling. The sensitivity of all with the chipset will be the same.

The GPS-enabled HTC phones use this chipset.

It is FAR better not to have to carry around a separate receiver.

And btw, with inbuilt receiver you can use any software.
#25
guv
Ive got a Vario2 on T-Mobile. The PDA is fine and there is no point in Co-Pilot, since you can bluetooth a good receiver and run TomTom anyway.

Ive had nothing but problems on the phone side though. Ive had the thing since December - and have only just (yesterday) finally got my third which appears to work fine.

However, as good as the Web n Walk tarrif is, I wouldn't now touch T-Mobile with a barge pole. If I could cancel my 18 month contract right now, I would. Their Customer Service are a bunch of lying crooks.

Great device though. Shame about the Operator.


I'm due an upgrade tomorrow. So it'll be interesting to see what is on offer from T-mobile for me. I would heartily recommend T-mobile to anyone. For the money I pay for calls/texts and 3GB of mobile internet that I also use as my internet access at home, none of the other providers gets anywhere near the value for money. And the twice in 18mths I've needed to call T-mobile re: data charge errors and 3G data call problems, they have been nothing but totally professional and fixed the issues promptly. I'd recommend T-mobile above and beyond any of the other operators having had experience of all in the past.
#26
dudedude
nope, I fully understand, I just don't see why T-Mobile are marketing a compact PDA for GPS, when you have to carry a separate bluetooth receiver as well. It's just not sensible, they should direct people wanting GPS to one of the HTC range with built in GPS.

This device is the last thing I would call compact, it's huge!

The seperate reciever seems excellent, I don't see when I would have to worry about taking it around the place, just leave it in the car!

it also doesnt drain your pda battery.
#27
khizman
This device is the last thing I would call compact, it's huge!

The seperate reciever seems excellent, I don't see when I would have to worry about taking it around the place, just leave it in the car!


that's the point. GPS is handy to use on foot as well.
#28
guv
Mine works fine - and indoors.


You need sat-nav indoors? Wow, your house must be HUUGE.

guy
Mine can lock onto 32 sats - and there is a 42 sat solution available.


I'm not sure the 42 satellite thing is such a useful improvement. As far as I'm aware, the GPS constellation is currently made up of 31 satellites.

dudedude
Actually GPS tech is pretty much fixed on the SiRFSTAR III chipset, which is superb, and much better than older GPS technology.


Not quite true anymore, there are 2 or 3 competing chipsets that are just as good now.

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