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Reposting this as they've been reduced further! Available in five colours: Black, White, Green, Pink or Blue... These Creative ZEN Vision M 30GB MP3/Video Player's cost from £155 to £164 including free SuperSaver delivery...

Features: Capacity: 30GB hard drive * Size: 104 x 62 x 18.6mm * Weight: 163g * 2.5" LCD @ 320 x 240 Color Display * 15,000 WMAs/ 1,000hrs (at 64kbps) * 7,500 MP3/ 500hrs (at 128kbps) * Store tens of thousands of Photos * Store 120 hrs (MPEG4 videos) * Up to 4 hrs video playtime * Up to 14 hrs playtime (MP3, 128kbps, 4mins/ song) * Up to 8 hrs playtime (WMA, 64kbps, 4mins/ song) * Up to 14 hrs FM playtime * Album Art * FM radio, FM recorder and voice recorder * Contacts, calendar and tasks * Repeat, resume, and random play * Sleep and wake timers * Customisable main menu * Functions as an external hard drive * 8 EQ settings (Acoustic, classical, disco, jazz, new age, pop, rock and vocal)

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#1
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[COLOR=darkred]Manufacturer's Description:[/COLOR]
Smaller and better than ever before. The Zen Vision: M does more than play your videos, photos and music. It displays them in their true glory on a vibrant, large full-colour screen. Perfect for road trips long or short, carry your entertainment in the palm of your hand.

[COLOR=darkred]120 hours of movies[/COLOR]
Big screen blockbusters, yesterday's picnic with your best friends, and even your favourite TV shows. They now fit in your pocket and are perfect for sharing. Zen Vision: M supports many video formats, such as DivX 4 and 5(5), XviD(5), MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG4-SP, WMV9 and Motion-JPEG, which simply means more choice and less restrictions on the types of video formats you can use.

[COLOR=darkred]Tens of thousands of photos[/COLOR][COLOR=darkred]
[/COLOR]View precious memories--tens of thousands of them--in 262,144 vivid colours at 320 x 240 resolution. Featuring a True Resolution image display, you can now view any photo you import without loss in quality or having to resize it. Take a closer look at your photos with the Zoom function, or scroll through your entire photo collection easily with the touchpad.

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[COLOR=darkred]An amazing 15,000 songs[/COLOR]
Perfect for taking with you on the road or around the house. Your music will sound as good as it looks, thanks to Creative's world-renowned audio clarity, custom equalizer and 8 preset EQ settings.

[COLOR=darkred]Movie and Photo Slideshows
[/COLOR]Connect the Zen Vision: M to a projector or TV with the video cable, and delight friends with big screen movie magic.

[COLOR=darkred]2.5-inch high-definition LCD screen[/COLOR]
Watch movies and photos in their full glory on the large 2.5-inch LCD screen, even under bright lighting. Displaying up to 262,144 vibrant colours, get crisp, clear detail in every image in high-definition 320 by 240 resolution.

[COLOR=darkred]Vertical Touch Pad[/COLOR]
Ergonomically designed, the innovative touch pad control enables quick, comfortable access to menus and settings.

[COLOR=darkred]Rechargeable Li-ion battery[/COLOR]
Enjoy up to 14 hours of music, or 4 hours of movies with the rechargeable Li-Ion battery. Perfect for watching an entire movie non-stop anywhere you are.

[COLOR=darkred]FM radio and recorder[/COLOR]
If 15,000 songs aren't enough, listen to more with the integrated FM radio. 32 station presets let you switch stations whenever you want.

[COLOR=darkred]Personal Organize[/COLOR]
Store and view all the information that's important to you--daily tasks, contact lists and even a calendar. Zen Vision: M syncs easily with Microsoft Outlook, and lets you edit your information with Creative Media Explorer.

[COLOR=darkred]Voice recorder
[/COLOR]Meetings, lectures, even voice memos to yourself--record them all with the integrated voice recorder, which stores hundreds of hours worth of recordings.

[COLOR=darkred]Full access to online music stores[/COLOR]
Select from more than a million songs from a myriad of online music stores--Napster To Go, Yahoo! Music Unlimited, Rhapsody To Go, and so much more. With PlaysForSure support, you will always be able to play any digital music you purchase.

[COLOR=darkred]Fits your life perfectly
[/COLOR]Select from an extensive line of accessories that make Zen Vision: M the perfect companion. Pamper and protect your player with the chic leather case and LCD screen protector. Or choose from the wired remote, docking station, and car adaptor kit designed to make life easier.
[SIZE=-1]1 Based on 500 Kbps MPEG4-SP format.
2 Based on 4 minutes per song at 64 kbps WMA.
3 Audio at 128 kbps MP3, in locked mode.
4 For converting TV programs recorded using Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition, it is recommended that you have Cyberlink PowerDVD or Intervideo WinDVD version 6 and above installed in your computer.
5 DivX and XviD encoded files are playable if they are encoded as standard MPEG-4 Simple (SP) or Advanced Simple Profile (ASP) without GMC support. This product is not certified by DivX Inc. May not play all DivX 4 and 5 files. [/SIZE]

[COLOR=darkred]Reviews
[/COLOR]Creative's Zen Vision:M is the ultimate player for people who want to enjoy music and movies on the go. This stylish, versatile system features an advanced colour screen for brilliant movies and stills, and its rechargeable battery delivers playtimes up to four hours with video, up to 14 hours with MP3 music. The Zen Vision:M offers the ergonomic design of Creative's Zen family and supports popular music, video and photo formats. It can store up to 15,000 songs or up to 120 hours of video on its high-capacity hard disk, sharing images and videos with friends and family is ultra-easy.
#2
These are very solidly built and the software simple and functional allowing you to easily put mp3s onto the player unlike Apples awkward iTunes.
Got one of these back in August for £179 so this is great.
#3
1) Can you get external batteries for these as the battery level of 4 hour for videos is a little low!


2) Can you add videos/photos/music in standard windows explorer without any external software?
#4
I imagine someone in China or Taiwan is doing a 3rd party product so you can charge this from batteries, try ebay or froogle

You can add anything you like to it as a normal removable disc storage device and it'll be stored on there and transferable on another computer but not viewable via the interface on the device, it has to be done via software if you want to view pictures you pic on there on the device itself, iRiver is the only hardware I have seen where you need no software to add files and for the device to play/display it.
#5
For the small price difference I think it's worth paying the extra and getting an Ipod video 30GB instead.
#6
biglugs1
For the small price difference I think it's worth paying the extra and getting an Ipod video 30GB instead.


why?

this is about the same size, if somewhat thicker, has a longer lasting battery, plays just about all video files and lets you watch full movies without needing a recharge

in addition it has an fm radio and a screen that is better than the ipod video in just about all ways

i dont think there is any reason to get the ipod video over this, if you dont need video then get the nano 8gb, otherwise the vision m is the best all round player

i had the chance to use the ipod 30gb and this several months ago and chose this. its superb, esp at this price.
#7
I've had mine for a year now and is far better than an Ipod video.

I watch xvid video's straight from the player on my 37WLT66 LCD and the picture is better than IDTV or SKY (not SkyHD).

The adapter only costs £8. As for the ipod video ... the colours just look bland and the video playback is awful.

Best thing I've bought since Sky +.
#8
I'd disagree. The key selling factor for the zen is it can play xvid, divx and has a fm radio. If that's not a major issue then buy an ipod as it's slimmer, has better battery life, and despite what other's have said, it has a better screen.
#9
isn't the ipod screen 65k versus 262k for the zvm? how would that be better?
#10
Is it possible to get an Ipod with FM radio?
#11
salthepal
Is it possible to get an Ipod with FM radio?


No. But you can get headphones with a built in radio.
#12
I like Zen's. I am looking for a replacement one for my now broken one.

Does anybody know if Creative did a better job on the soldering of the headphone jack / usb port than they did on the original Zen's - something of which was a huge problem?
#13
spladam
I like Zen's. I am looking for a replacement one for my now broken one.

Does anybody know if Creative did a better job on the soldering of the headphone jack / usb port than they did on the original Zen's - something of which was a huge problem?

Tell me about it, mine got loose (zen micro) a couple of weeks ago, i have to send it to them this week to get a refurbished one.
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biglugs1
For the small price difference I think it's worth paying the extra and getting an Ipod video 30GB instead.

If your one of the lucky ones to get a refurb Ipod 30Gb for £130, then it's teh better choice, otherwise the Creative is a far more sensible purchase,
The screen and sound quality are usually better in the Creative Zen, it's plug and play and can be usedas external storage. With the Ipod, your paying for the pleasure of using the Itunes malware.
Creative have been making HDD players for longer than anyone else, don't forget that Apple stole Creative's ideas, the Ipod is never an innovation, Apple always wait to see what the competition brings out before releasing a new model.
#15
Yes, but your kids will have more street cred with an ipod than a Creative and the battery life is longer. And since I got a 20GB Creative player from Argos earlier this year I never listen to radio any more - I have more than enough music to keep me going, even though the Creative has a radio in it.
But I do agree that being able to play native DivX files will be very useful.
#16
biglugs1
Yes, but your kids will have more street cred with an ipod than a Creative and the battery life is longer.

Do you really want them to be at risk from some hooded ******* mugging them for their iPod? People will always try mug you for things that are bling or give you street cred.

It was just like when I was at School, if you had a Parker Pen, you had street cred and some little **** would try nick it from you.
#17
Only the black at £155 now...
#18
At the risk of turning this into a full-on zealotfest, I'm gonna pitch in.

iTunes is based on the excellent SoundJam by Cassidy & Green, when it was released back in the '90s, apparently Panic softwares also excellent Audion was also considered by Apple.

iTunes has gone on to become the friendliest, easiest to use music player software (on ANY platform IMHO), and has no peers to date.

I have yet to see a software player that does everything as well in regards to functionality or usability, smart playlists, custom playlists, party mixes, selective random shuffles, the best dynamically updating instant search engine in the biz, on-the-fly-non-destructive-re-encoding (phew!) via scripts or as a built in option for all you shuffle owners, the best music store in the planet, and perhaps most importantly, the tightest and most intuitive computer to music player integration you can get.

If there is a piece of software in existence that does everything that iTunes does (and comes even halfway close to doing it as well), I have yet to come across it in almost a decade of fiddling with every type of clunky esoteric, and limited music software that I could find from homebrew one man bands right up to Microsoft, although I have to say that WMP has come on in LEAPS AND BOUNDS in recent years.

The only reasons that I can think of for disliking iTunes as a player, is; (a) you have to install Quicktime to use it, (b) it's made by Apple or (c) you've never used it for more than 30 seconds in PC World and it was scary because it didn't look like Musicmatch Jukebox or WMP.

As a total geek regarding all things video, I would say that the Vision:M is a great choice is you have a lot of DivX files that you don't want to convert to use (you need to convert all your video files to MPEG 4 or H.264 if you want to use them on an iPod).

Otherwise the iPods touchwheel nails the the Zens ergonomically challenged 'touchstrip' and non-intuitive button arrangement, because actually being able to use the thing without having to dig it out and peer at it everytime is a major factor, for me anyway. The PC integration via Creative Media Explorer is also a bit rubbish. I would hold one of these things in your hands before buying one too, as they are actually pretty bulky.

Have a nosy at this review for the lowdown.
#20
White now back at £155 delivered...
#21
White now £150 at pixmania with 2% cashback. Great spot guys, wanted a player that can play divx files. Personally I dont really like ipods, they have poor reliability and are vastly overated in my experience. My wife is on her third one....
#23
Must have been a mis price they corrected very quickly, in fact whilst i was trying to check out. Its back up to £159 again + £7 postage. Pixmania still the cheapest by the looks of it...

The battery life on ipods is is awful after 6months or so. Everyone I know has had at least one faulty ipod.
#24
Would you like to explain your thoughts on why the battery life could possibly be any worse on an iPod than every other brand of mp3 player available? They all use the same basic tech...:lazy:

My girlfriends Shuffle still shows no discernible depreciation in battery life after a year of use, then again she doesn't top it up daily and usually only charges it when the battery is actually drained, which probably doesn't hurt.
#25
ipods are notorious for battery problems......Let google be your guide or read the article schizoboy posted that talks about this....

http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/02/apple-agrees-to-settlement-in-ipod-battery-class-action-suit/
#26
The article is about 3G and older iPods that are over 2 and half years old, getting a warranty repair, and 1 and 2G ipods getting a discount if the battery craps out within 2 years. The article itself is over a year and half old, where is the relevence?

I've been using mp3 players since the original Diamond Rio, and been using the internet for longer than that. People on the internet says lots of things, and experience tell me not to selectively accept things I read on the web as fact. Everything breaks, including iPods, fortunately most don't.

Have a look on discussion forums and you'll find people still using their 1, 2 and 3G iPods with their original battery and getting reasonable battery life for their age, and remember that the original iPod is now over 5 years old.

This kind of misinformation is yet another example of magically transforming someone's bad luck into the biblical chants of zealots and fanboys. Just like 'the PS2 breaks every 13 months' script, or the 'all Xbox 360s overheat' mantra.

If they were all true, then sales of all these items would grind to a halt. They haven't so obviously it ain't.

Either that, or myself and all my friends are lucky enough to have the only consoles and MP3 players that last longer than a few months and manage not to stop reading discs then go on fire!

I confidently feel that this is fairly unlikely :p
#27
PEOPLE!!!!!
i am in such a dilemma!!!! :?
i am looking to buy a new mp3 player and after much research i have come to the conclusion that i will buy either the 80gb ipod video or the 60gb zen vision m!!! but i cannot choose 1 !!!! :p
both are just as good
the i pod sleek and sexy the zen full of extras and players more video formats !!
wa shall i do?? !!!!
any suggestions will be much appreciated!! cheers!!! :w00t:
#28
I guess if money no object then you could get the ipod and enjoy the smaller size and the bigger harddrive. However the zen is less expensive.

The dilema I have is whether to get the 30 gig at about £150 or the 60 gig at 200 quid?

200 bucks is a lot to splash out on a unit as fragile as the zen appears to be ( search for zen vision + broken screen)
#29
jaym,

I suppose you have to decide which of the different features are more advantageous to you.If you are going to be using it for video,film and stuff like that I would say get the creative,the creative is also a bit cheaper,at least £18 cheaper,but you may think that an extra 20gig is worth this.

As regards the 'sleek and sexy' ipod,whatever floats your boat,it is personal taste.I prefer the creative because imo it feels more solid,to me the ipod feels a bit 'flimsy'.

phatboy,

Again,is £50 worth it for an extra 30 gig?
I know for some folk that is a no brainer,I have the 30gig and it is more than enough for me,only used 1/4 of the space so far and have got loads of music on it.I personally do not use it for video,whether I will in the future,maybe,but do use it for photos and they look lovely on it.
As for the problems with the screen,have not heard of this problem myself,certainly have never had a problem with mine.I love my vision m,I researched it very carefully before making my decision and am very glad that I chose it.

For anyone considering the creative vision m i would suggest looking at getting a skin for it from this site best skins ever it cost around £5 delivered and it protects your mp3 from scratches,smudges and all other manner of damage,well worth it to keep your spangly new piece of gear looking as good as the day you bought it.
#30
muckypup
jaym,

I suppose you have to decide which of the different features are more advantageous to you.If you are going to be using it for video,film and stuff like that I would say get the creative,the creative is also a bit cheaper,at least £18 cheaper,but you may think that an extra 20gig is worth this.

As regards the 'sleek and sexy' ipod,whatever floats your boat,it is personal taste.I prefer the creative because imo it feels more solid,to me the ipod feels a bit 'flimsy'.

phatboy,

Again,is £50 worth it for an extra 30 gig?
I know for some folk that is a no brainer,I have the 30gig and it is more than enough for me,only used 1/4 of the space so far and have got loads of music on it.I personally do not use it for video,whether I will in the future,maybe,but do use it for photos and they look lovely on it.
As for the problems with the screen,have not heard of this problem myself,certainly have never had a problem with mine.I love my vision m,I researched it very carefully before making my decision and am very glad that I chose it.

For anyone considering the creative vision m i would suggest looking at getting a skin for it from this site best skins ever it cost around £5 delivered and it protects your mp3 from scratches,smudges and all other manner of damage,well worth it to keep your spangly new piece of gear looking as good as the day you bought it.


Thanks for the input mucky - re broken screen check http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2006/08/11/broken-creative-visionm-lcd-screen/ for some horror stories.

I personally favour the creative - It just seems the right choice for me - however apparently there is some difficulty getting skins that fit the 60 gig vrs.

I know i am being rediculously indecisive - its just that its a lot of cash for me and I would freak if the screen broke and then got the warranty hassle

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