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A very good price for a reflector telescope. may be for a young beginner/amateur collect in store only limited store, be quick.

It's amazing how much extra stars you can see just with a pair of binoculars, imagine what you can see with a telescope.

Accessories include 3 eyepieces of 6mm, 12.5mm and 20mm, and a tripod with a maximum height of 120cm.
•Optimum magnification 40x.
•Maximum magnification 399x.
•Full height tripod.
•Weight 6.5kg.
•Size H120, W40, D40cm.

A quick search suggest that there are some in Liverpool walton road, warrington, southport, omskirk, chorley, leyland, Barrow in furness dalton street, Barrow in furness walney rd.
newcastle byker, wallsend silverlink, jarrow viking.
Birmingham Union street, perry barr, castle vale.
Penzance, Salisbury Southampton Rd, Salisbury Fisherton street.
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Not worth it. Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian.

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1 Like #1
very tempted actually
1 Like #2
*how many
1 Like #3
Can anyone recommend some decent deals/brands/optics on binoculars? Nothing too expensive but better than the home bargains £1.99 ones X)
banned 1 Like #4
This looks like a standard 76 mm apeture reflector. If it is then this is HOT for 32 quid
14 Likes #5
Not worth it. Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian.
1 Like #6
Anyone know if this really a good offer?
Is this a good brand?
Is this a genuine reduction?
etc.,

TIA for any info.
2 Likes #7
londonstinks
Not worth it. Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian.

Can only second the above - you really do get what you pay for. Have had a number of telescopes and binoculars over the years and I can say with almost 100% certainty that you will be disappointed by this.
banned#8
Quadrille
Anyone know if this really a good offer?
Is this a good brand?
Is this a genuine reduction?
etc.,

TIA for any info.

Yes, it is a good offer IMO for a starter scope only. As other have said, you wont see things in very good detail. But if you want a 4,5 inch reflector it cost upward of £150. A 60 mm refractor cost around £100 Celestron Skymasters binos cost around £60 and are very heavy to hold. Here you are only spending 32 pounds and you get a mount and tripod
#9
This seems like a good deal for a beginner telescope:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-Travel-Refractor-additional-Eyepiece/dp/B006MCYAH4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406290035&sr=8-1&keywords=celestron+telescope

Only issue is there is a 1-3 month dispatch time :(
3 Likes #11
someguy003
Quadrille
Anyone know if this really a good offer?
Is this a good brand?
Is this a genuine reduction?
etc.,

TIA for any info.

Yes, it is a good offer IMO for a starter scope only. As other have said, you wont see things in very good detail. But if you want a 4,5 inch reflector it cost upward of £150. A 60 mm refractor cost around £100 Celestron Skymasters binos cost around £60 and are very heavy to hold. Here you are only spending 32 pounds and you get a mount and tripod

A terrible EQ mount that will likely shake the eyepiece every time the user tries to focus. Best bet is to go onto ebay and look for a small dobsonian. An equatorial mount isn't even worth using unless you look at eq5's, vixen gp or cg5. I use an EQ6 Pro myself but that cost me like £900. I just don't want people to get this scope expecting to resolve the cassini division or M13 to the core and be disappointed then leave Astronomy.
#12
Thanks for informative posts!
1 Like #13
Is there such a thing yet as a telescope with wifi (or at least some sort of remote control) that you can tell it where to point and have it (ar an attached DSLR say) display the image live on your TV? :) Quite like the idea of that.
#14
Also, you won't get anywhere near 399x magnification. The rule of thumb is 50x per inch of aperture in the best conditions, so you're looking at around 120x usable magnification.
banned 2 Likes #15
A terrible EQ mount that will likely shake the eyepiece every time the user tries to focus. Best bet is to go onto ebay and look for a small dobsonian. An equatorial mount isn't even worth using unless you look at eq5's, vixen gp or cg5. I use an EQ6 Pro myself but that cost me like £900. I just don't want people to get this scope expecting to resolve the cassini division or M13 to the core and be disappointed then leave Astronomy.[/quote]
I agree. But you are talking about £900 for just a mount and tripod. This deal is a way to get into astronomy in the first place for 32 quid. You will get a good view moon, Jupiter, pliedes even mars and some other stuff. Not a bad way to be able to afford to get into astronomy.
#16
Roger_Irrelevant
Is there such a thing yet as a telescope with wifi (or at least some sort of remote control) that you can tell it where to point and have it (ar an attached DSLR say) display the image live on your TV? :) Quite like the idea of that.

I'm no expert but I've been toying with the idea of buying a Telescope; you want one of these Celestron 31051 Astromaster 130EQ-MD Motor Drive Reflector Telescope with a T adapter and a T ring adapter that will fit your DSLR.

But some Die hards serious amateurs/ enthusiast may disagree

Edited By: mmuw on Jul 25, 2014 14:06
banned 1 Like #17
Damn, just bought 8inch one from ebay!
1 Like #18
Roger_Irrelevant
Is there such a thing yet as a telescope with wifi (or at least some sort of remote control) that you can tell it where to point and have it (ar an attached DSLR say) display the image live on your TV? :) Quite like the idea of that.

I have an NEQ6 mount connected to my laptop using EQMOD which can control the mount. If im feeling really lazy I remote desktop my laptop to my PC in the house using team viewer. I also have a camera attached to a guide scope and my main scope so i can see whats going on on the screen.

As for beginner scopes you are probably better getting something like this. http://www.firstlightoptics.com/heritage.html

The 76 is great for children and give good views of the moon and planets.

Some of the cheaper scope from the likes of argos and high street stores can really put you off astronomy.

Edited By: stubbadub on Jul 25, 2014 15:18
#19
does anyone have links or images of what a beginner is likely to see?
I don't expect to see the grains of sand on the surface of Mars but would like a realistic expectation from a decent £100 scope.
we live out the city now and I'd like to dabble with the darker sky for not too much outlay initially.
2 Likes #20
londonstinks
Not worth it. Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian.

Wonder what the neighbours mean by 'peeping Tom' ?!

http://www.astrobuysell.com/paul/logbook/VenusTransitSetUp.jpg


Edited By: Maevoric on Jul 25, 2014 15:44
1 Like #21
Oneday77
does anyone have links or images of what a beginner is likely to see?
I don't expect to see the grains of sand on the surface of Mars but would like a realistic expectation from a decent £100 scope.
we live out the city now and I'd like to dabble with the darker sky for not too much outlay initially.

Here is someones blog showing some images taken with the skywatcher 130P which is around £130

http://www.royvanrijn.com/blog/2014/01/stargazing-my-first-telescope/
#22
londonstinks
Not worth it. Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian.

Thanks for the info...will the celestrons work with an SLR tripod? I've got a manfrotto.
#23
What's the National Geographic branded one like at Aldi. Nearly the same price

This lot dislike it but then they might just be pretentious uppity snobs.Unlikely they are wrong though..



Edited By: dontasciime on Jul 25, 2014 16:09: d
1 Like #24
Delivered at Ebay argos for £3.95.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cristal-800MM-Reflector-Telescope-/351057223819

Edited By: ashkayuk on Jul 25, 2014 16:02
#25
Astronomers, whats the best thing I can get in the 40-70 quid price range, bino or telescope?

Thanks
2 Likes #26
Oneday77
does anyone have links or images of what a beginner is likely to see?
I don't expect to see the grains of sand on the surface of Mars but would like a realistic expectation from a decent £100 scope.
we live out the city now and I'd like to dabble with the darker sky for not too much outlay initially.

Here's Jupiter as seen through a 3" (80mm) reflector >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffa9vvULNa8

Those faint dots are the moons of Jupiter. Apart from our moon, and upside down images of birds in trees, you wont see much else with a 3" reflector like this, it simply does not gather enough light because the mirror is so tiny.

I would only buy this telescope for a child if I intended to put them off astronomy for life.


Edited By: dach on Jul 25, 2014 22:00: changed 800 to 80
#27
dontasciime
What's the National Geographic branded one like at Aldi. Nearly the same price

This lot dislike it but then they might just be pretentious uppity snobs.


The people on that forum know what they are talking about. The thing is that astronomy can be expensive. If you want good gear then you have to pay for it. If you ask on a forum like SGL then the members will probably steer you away from poor gear as it can put you off the hobby.
banned#28
hugekebab
Astronomers, whats the best thing I can get in the 40-70 quid price range, bino or telescope?

Thanks

Binos for that price range. I have a pair of Olympus DSP-1 10x 50 from amazon £50. Larger binos are heavy to hold for long periods and need a tripod
#29
dach
Oneday77
does anyone have links or images of what a beginner is likely to see?
I don't expect to see the grains of sand on the surface of Mars but would like a realistic expectation from a decent £100 scope.
we live out the city now and I'd like to dabble with the darker sky for not too much outlay initially.

Here's Jupiter as seen through a 3" (800mm) reflector >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffa9vvULNa8

Those faint dots are the moons of Jupiter. Apart from our moon, and upside down images of birds in trees, you wont see much else with a 3" reflector like this, it simply does not gather enough light because the mirror is so tiny.

I would only buy this telescope for a child if I intended to put them off astronomy for life.

A 3" reflector has an aperture of 76mm not sure why they put 800mm.
#30
stubbadub
dontasciime
What's the National Geographic branded one like at Aldi. Nearly the same price

This lot dislike it but then they might just be pretentious uppity snobs.



The people on that forum know what they are talking about. The thing is that astronomy can be expensive. If you want good gear then you have to pay for it. If you ask on a forum like SGL then the members will probably steer you away from poor gear as it can put you off the hobby.


I know but how did you manage to quote the unedited version
2 Likes #31
hugekebab
Astronomers, whats the best thing I can get in the 40-70 quid price range, bino or telescope?

Thanks

That's really like asking what's the best car I can get for under £1000. There is nothing you can buy new that will be of much use. You may be lucky and find a second-hand telescope for £70 on ebay that performs well or a cheap pair of binoculars that gives good views of the moon but you are not going to see any planet detail until you start spending in the region of £200+

As londonstinks said "Please guys if you're getting a scope for astronomy you want 4.5 inch minimum for a reflector and 60mm minimum for a refractor. Also for binoculars look up celestron skymasters. If you really want good views the best bang for buck is a 6 inch skywatcher dobsonian."

Skywater dodsonian
#32
dontasciime
stubbadub
dontasciime
What's the National Geographic branded one like at Aldi. Nearly the same price

This lot dislike it but then they might just be pretentious uppity snobs.


The people on that forum know what they are talking about. The thing is that astronomy can be expensive. If you want good gear then you have to pay for it. If you ask on a forum like SGL then the members will probably steer you away from poor gear as it can put you off the hobby.

I know but how did you manage to quote the unedited version

I replied quite quick but my posts were up for moderation, probably before you edited...
2 Likes #33
hugekebab
Astronomers, whats the best thing I can get in the 40-70 quid price range, bino or telescope?

Thanks

First off download Stellarium, it's free and can also control motorised scopes if you ever upgrade to one, it'll give you a good idea of what's out there.

Binoculars would be best at that price range, the larger are better of these 2 although some people find that when you go over x50 they can get a little heavy after a few minutes. Ideally use them on a sun lounger (should it be moon lounger at night?) looking straight up and you won't notice the weight as much.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-118760-Binocular-10x50-DPS-1/dp/B0000AKGX3/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406301446&sr=1-1&keywords=olympus+binoculars+10x50

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-71008-25x70-Skymaster-Binoculars/dp/B003AM87Q4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406301510&sr=8-1&keywords=celestron+binoculars

Videos look a little dated but he has some good info on buying and using gear: https://www.youtube.com/user/AstronomyAndNatureTV

Edited By: AlanClarke on Jul 25, 2014 16:29
#34
None anywhere in or around Leeds.
1 Like #35
stubbadub
dach
Oneday77
does anyone have links or images of what a beginner is likely to see?
I don't expect to see the grains of sand on the surface of Mars but would like a realistic expectation from a decent £100 scope.
we live out the city now and I'd like to dabble with the darker sky for not too much outlay initially.

Here's Jupiter as seen through a 3" (800mm) reflector >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffa9vvULNa8

Those faint dots are the moons of Jupiter. Apart from our moon, and upside down images of birds in trees, you wont see much else with a 3" reflector like this, it simply does not gather enough light because the mirror is so tiny.

I would only buy this telescope for a child if I intended to put them off astronomy for life.

A 3" reflector has an aperture of 76mm not sure why they put 800mm.

Yes I know, they should say 80mm not 800mm. This would be a great deal if it was an 800mm mirror :-)
#36
I want one of these! Can't seem to find the price though (_;)
#37
If you can afford £200 get a TAL -1. Great scope and "hard wearing", will last the casual astronomer a lifetime. Best tip I can give a starter is buy the book "Turn Left At Orion". It will get you seeing some of the wonders of the universe in minutes, absolutely invaluable for the beginner .
#38
stubbadub
dontasciime
stubbadub
dontasciime
What's the National Geographic branded one like at Aldi. Nearly the same price

This lot dislike it but then they might just be pretentious uppity snobs.



The people on that forum know what they are talking about. The thing is that astronomy can be expensive. If you want good gear then you have to pay for it. If you ask on a forum like SGL then the members will probably steer you away from poor gear as it can put you off the hobby.


I know but how did you manage to quote the unedited version


I replied quite quick but my posts were up for moderation, probably before you edited...


I see. I generally always edit my posts to save any confusion about what I mean and my stance.

Edited By: dontasciime on Jul 25, 2014 17:10
#40
someguy003
A terrible EQ mount that will likely shake the eyepiece every time the user tries to focus. Best bet is to go onto ebay and look for a small dobsonian. An equatorial mount isn't even worth using unless you look at eq5's, vixen gp or cg5. I use an EQ6 Pro myself but that cost me like £900. I just don't want people to get this scope expecting to resolve the cassini division or M13 to the core and be disappointed then leave Astronomy.

I agree. But you are talking about £900 for just a mount and tripod. This deal is a way to get into astronomy in the first place for 32 quid. You will get a good view moon, Jupiter, pliedes even mars and some other stuff. Not a bad way to be able to afford to get into astronomy.[/quote]
No, I'm saying that I use a 900 quid mount and that tripod mounts are only really worth it when you get to eq5, vixen gp, cg4 level. A beginner should just stay away from cheap tripod mounts because they will be very annoyed. Just get a small dob, even a skywatcher heritage.

Edited By: londonstinks on Jul 25, 2014 17:36

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