Debadged Dell A100-L6 Barebones PC - 1.6Ghz Atom CPU - Motherboard - 180w PSU - £52.98 @ Boffer - HotUKDeals
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Doesn't seem too bad if you have a the spare components lying around. Ok it won't play games, but it uses little power and is just fine for day to day/internet use.

Warranty: 1 year
Condition: New

Debadged Dell A100-L6 Barebones PC*
Foxconn n15235 Motherboard
Intel Atom 1.6Ghz 512 L2 cache
180 watt PSU
2 x Optical Drive Bays
PCI Slot (4 slots on case)
Front Audio I/O
2 x USB 2.0 headers
1 x DDR2 slot Up to 2gb pc 4200 ddr2 553 (works with 667 )
2 x SATA II Ports
Onboard sound and onboard video
10/100 network
6 x USB 2.0 ports (4 back, 2 front)
PPC Slot , PS2 x 2
Intel integrated video GMA 950 up to 256-MB video memory (shared) at total system memory of greater than 512 MB
Height: 35.9 cm, Width: 18.0 cm, Depth: 45.0 cm
You need to add
Memory upto 2gb ddr
HDD SATA
Optical drive
Operating System (eg Windows or Linux)
A power lead

*where the Vostro sign has been removed there is a slight blemish
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#1
shame dell need custom PSU's, i'd be tempted to put a fanless psu in there make it a living room entertainment/media pc
#2
schizoboy
shame dell need custom PSU's, i'd be tempted to put a fanless psu in there make it a living room entertainment/media pc


I've replaced Dell PSUs many times - they used to need a very short PSU in cabling terms but IU've never seen a 'custom' PSU in one yet!?
#3
schizoboy
shame dell need custom PSU's, i'd be tempted to put a fanless psu in there make it a living room entertainment/media pc


All depends on the model. Most Dell mintowers just use a standard ATX PSU. It's only the small form factor and ultra small form factor optiplexes nowadays that need specific PSU's due to BTX form factor.
#4
schizoboy
shame dell need custom PSU's, i'd be tempted to put a fanless psu in there make it a living room entertainment/media pc


They stopped doing that many, many years ago. All the Dell towers I've had since 2004 have had standard PSUs. I really wish the "Dell use custom PSUs" rumour would die as its simply not true anymore!
#5
This uses full size generic PSU.

I got mine from Aira last time it was posted and is currently running my 2x1.5TB Raid FreeNas.

Ideal!
#6
J400uk
They stopped doing that many, many years ago. All the Dell towers I've had since 2004 have had standard PSUs. I really wish the "Dell use custom PSUs" rumour would die as its simply not true anymore!


Dell use custom psu's! My Dell bought new in 2006 has a custom psu, had to recently change it and nothing else would fit due to how their leads are configured in the space available.

Good deal though in my opinion, thanks for posting
#7
therealjohnpeat
I've replaced Dell PSUs many times - they used to need a very short PSU in cabling terms but IU've never seen a 'custom' PSU in one yet!?


I''ve changed out loads of Dell PSU's as well - never a problem.
#8
Surely you'd be better off with a netbook that comes with memory, hard disc, and screen all for about £150 ?
#9
Depends on your use case, this is very tempting to use as a base for a HTPC.
#10
Would this be good as a file server (just for streaming media to some boxes)? Is the power consumption much greater than the NAS servers you can get?
#11
shame old dell need custom PSU's...........
I support stinkboxes for charities
desktop corporate SFF(ish) stuff
nice wee black unicore 2.8s
PSU goes to the big WEEE in the sky
and so does the whole box

A certain banned site has this in the reviews
is more than likely a Foxconn 45CS. The only Atom motherboard listed on foxconns website


if you google for [COLOR="Green"]Gladiator Proteus Atom Green PC[/COLOR] you can get someshots of case and mobo inside too

heat and rep

COCO
#12
Anyone looking for Motherboard spec or drivers may want to know that there is no Foxconn motherboard called N15235 although this is printed on the board. The right name is P4M800P7MB-RS2H and you can find all stuff here:
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads_detail.aspx?ID=en-us0001168

Here is the link for the manual:

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/support/downloads.aspx?ProductModel=P4M800P7MB-RS2H&TypeID=en-us0000001

The foxconn board identification number is located between the processor holder and the ram stick module bay.
#13
Anyone looking for Motherboard spec or drivers may want to know that there is no Foxconn motherboard called N15235 although this is printed on the board. The right name is P4M800P7MB-RS2H and you can find all stuff here:


That is not the mainboard model in this system.
#14
There was quite a bit of discussion in another thread on here about this PC.
(http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/652307/debadged-dell-a100-l6-barebones-pc-)

I ordered one from Aria for about £60 last month.

It has 1 PCI slot and 1 memory slot.

No fan on the CPU, no IDE connectors on motherboard. (So you'll probably need a new CD/DVD drive)

It freezes when trying to use ubuntu on it, but CentOS and Windows are running fine for me, and FreeNAS was reported to have worked in the thread.

It does take a while to boot whilst the pxe client is searching, but this can be disabled, contrary to what a poster in the above thread says.
#15
Cold

A collection of underpowered out of date generic components that isn't even a complete PC. Chances are that if you have the spare parts lying around to complete this for no extra cost, then the PC you took them from is better spec than this. I know my 2002 PC I bought for college work is better spec.

Just because a PC has a low price tag does not mean it is a deal. If the components are rubbish you are still buying rubbsih.
#16
mumbojumbo
+ Snow Leopard works, but the GMA950 is outputting at the wrong resolution (1024x768).


Probably need to do some EFI bootloader trickery so it uses the actual driver and not a generic one; same happened to me when I tried to run OS X on my PC
1 Like #17
Avenger1324
Cold

A collection of underpowered out of date generic components that isn't even a complete PC. Chances are that if you have the spare parts lying around to complete this for no extra cost, then the PC you took them from is better spec than this. I know my 2002 PC I bought for college work is better spec.

Just because a PC has a low price tag does not mean it is a deal. If the components are rubbish you are still buying rubbsih.


Atom PC's are designed for low power usage, low noise and small size. Just because something doesn't run the latest games does not make it rubbish.
1 Like #18
Avenger1324;8723779
Cold

A collection of underpowered out of date generic components that isn't even a complete PC. Chances are that if you have the spare parts lying around to complete this for no extra cost, then the PC you took them from is better spec than this. I know my 2002 PC I bought for college work is better spec.

Just because a PC has a low price tag does not mean it is a deal. If the components are rubbish you are still buying rubbsih.

An Atom processor, low spec, yes out of date, no.
#19
what is the power used by something like this ??? A NAS probably consumes approx 10 Watts, I would guess this would be around 3x that. Anyone tested it with one of those meters?
#20
zaheer2003
what is the power used by something like this ??? A NAS probably consumes approx 10 Watts, I would guess this would be around 3x that.

Probably more, although it is difficult to tell with the available data. The Atom is pretty good, it can live on 5-10 W, but the chipset will use more than that. And the power supply does not seem to be particularly efficient, or it would be mentioned. Add in the graphics and drives, it could easily pull 40 to 50 W at idle. A state of the art PC (without a big graphics card) should come in at about 80 W, so the savings are really really small.
#22
Grabbed one of these for my ma, heat and rep added.

Probably load up anXP install on USB with Enhanced Write Filtering caching that clears on reboot. Hook it up to her cheap LCD TV via the VGA, if it works, she'll have a machine for surfing and email that she can fix whenever she breaks it by just rebooting it.
#23
has the motherboard got a rs232 socket on it? and what chipset is the sata
#24
adambaz
There was quite a bit of discussion in another thread on here about this PC.
(http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/652307/debadged-dell-a100-l6-barebones-pc-)

I ordered one from Aria for about £60 last month.

It has 1 PCI slot and 1 memory slot.

No fan on the CPU, no IDE connectors on motherboard. (So you'll probably need a new CD/DVD drive)

It freezes when trying to use ubuntu on it, but CentOS and Windows are running fine for me, and FreeNAS was reported to have worked in the thread.

It does take a while to boot whilst the pxe client is searching, but this can be disabled, contrary to what a poster in the above thread says.


I have the same 45CS motherboard in a Foxconn case and also discovered the problem with the Ubuntu Freeze. Its to do with the 845 Intel Chipset which won't work with Ubuntu after 9.04 and is a documented bug which hasn't been fixed. It would have been good to have a dual boot but I just settled for XP in the end, so if you want Ubuntu be aware of this.
#25
Hi

I am really interested in this but has anyone successfully made this into a NAS?

I see it comes with a 10/100 card but is not gigabit. How easy is it or what would i need to make this into a descent 2 bay NAS with 2 X1Tbyte hard drives that will be able to compete with the likes of QNAP alternatives.
I would like torrent support, file sharing, fast read/write is this all normal for FreeNas?

Thanks
#26
A good deal but only If you have suitable spares lying around!

Copy of XP, any sata hard drive and 1/2GB RAM should run this nicely.

Atom's are pretty good processors for general tasks. The only time it ever lags for me is when playing HD Youtube videos.

I might be wrong but these Atoms equal somewhere around a Pentium 4 2.0ghz in power.

Also If you just need a basic PC its worth looking around to see what you can find second hand. I recently sold my Dell e310 (pentium 4 ht 2.8ghz, 80gb hd, 2gb ram, dvd/cd-r drive, geforce 6200 (with dvi & vga outputs) ) for £70. Way more powerful than an Atom but does suck more power.
#27
derrycityboy


I might be wrong but these Atoms equal somewhere around a Pentium 4 2.0ghz in power.


http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+230+@+1.60GHz

COCO
#28
J400uk
They stopped doing that many, many years ago. All the Dell towers I've had since 2004 have had standard PSUs. I really wish the "Dell use custom PSUs" rumour would die as its simply not true anymore!


Nah they now use non standard fans and want to charge you £100 to replace one. Non-standard size or you can pay $20 to import your own
#29
Rich44
Nah they now use non standard fans and want to charge you £100 to replace one. Non-standard size or you can pay $20 to import your own


Sorry but again simply not true. They are just standard sized 24pin ATX PSUs that can be swapped out for an alternative.
#30
Don't matter
#31
why would you use this as a htpc, its more cheap ass server material, stick a pci raid card in it and a couple of drives, and you're away
#32
Avenger1324
Cold

A collection of underpowered out of date generic components that isn't even a complete PC. Chances are that if you have the spare parts lying around to complete this for no extra cost, then the PC you took them from is better spec than this. I know my 2002 PC I bought for college work is better spec.

Just because a PC has a low price tag does not mean it is a deal. If the components are rubbish you are still buying rubbsih.


It might be better spec, but how much power does it guzzle at idle? 80W? More? Could be if it's a Pentium IV based machine.

An Atom-based machine costs around £40-£45 per year to run as a 24/7 server. Some older machines can be double that ;-) I've got an old P4-based machine kicking around, but it's the power draw that put me off.

Still, good point about it being a crap machine. It's useless for just about everything apart from server-use or very basic web/word use on a light Linux install.
#33
CPU is very underpowered, by the time you load anti virus, few apps suchas itunes, word, etcm the system will run incredibly slow.

As it is an intel atom processor, they do not get that hot, hence do not require a cpu fan but CPU is still crap

Note it is the same cpu they put in most netbook!

Once you purachse a decent HD, OS, RAM, Optical drives it will be over £100 quid and that does not include a monitor, or peripheral.

It is a shame because this would be a good deal if the processor was better. Do not be fooled because it sayd debadged dell!
#34
It's got a 180W PSU?! I would have thought it would have used less power, as it's an Atom after all. I have a P2 350MHz SFF Dell which uses a 110W PSU and is near silent even with the PSU fan and CPU fan. If all you want is to run RAID/NAS, you do not need anything as powerful as this, a Dell P2 SFF is all you need, as NAS needs little processing and everything depends on the HDD and LAN speeds. You can probably get away with a bit less even and something like this can be picked up for free saving you £60 instantly. I currently run it as a SIP server and NAS/BT/NNTP client.
#35
met_arnold_ps
CPU is very underpowered, by the time you load anti virus, few apps suchas itunes, word, etcm the system will run incredibly slow.

As it is an intel atom processor, they do not get that hot, hence do not require a cpu fan but CPU is still crap

Note it is the same cpu they put in most netbook!

Once you purachse a decent HD, OS, RAM, Optical drives it will be over £100 quid and that does not include a monitor, or peripheral.

It is a shame because this would be a good deal if the processor was better. Do not be fooled because it sayd debadged dell!


I bought one of these last time round at around £65. If you have some bits and bobs lying around already then this can work out as a cheap little machine. I'd an O/S, decent Dell 2.1 speakers, DVD rewriter, LCD TV / monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse, so RAM and a hard disk was all that was needed.

The machine runs 24x7 quietly and no doubt efficiently and my son uses it for surfing, msn, word processing, downloads, burning CD's, etc.

Would i recommend someone buys this and then adds all the bits new? No probably not as it wouldnt be very cost effective.

But if you have some of the bits anyway and are trying to knock together a complete system, then yes, well worthwhile. :thumbsup:
#36
pgilc1
I bought one of these last time round at around £65. If you have some bits and bobs lying around already then this can work out as a cheap little machine. I'd an O/S, decent Dell 2.1 speakers, DVD rewriter, LCD TV / monitor and wireless keyboard and mouse, so RAM and a hard disk was all that was needed.

The machine runs 24x7 quietly and no doubt efficiently and my son uses it for surfing, msn, word processing, downloads, burning CD's, etc.

Would i recommend someone buys this and then adds all the bits new? No probably not as it wouldnt be very cost effective.

But if you have some of the bits anyway and are trying to knock together a complete system, then yes, well worthwhile. :thumbsup:


Yes i agree if you have bits lying around and you need a pc on the cheap then it is fairly appealing, it is certaintly better than having parts lying around, but, I would not recomend it as a main PC or if you have to buy all the bits and bobs to get it to work it is a rather expensive and not appealing prospect.
#37
met_arnold_ps
by the time you load anti virus, few apps suchas itunes, word, etcm the system will run incredibly slow.
If you use iTunes you get everything you deserve and word - WORD!! - that's a bit of software which costs 4 times what this entire MACHINE costs and which no-one on earth actually needs!

This would do fine as a 'Facebook machine' or as a NAS or as a server or whatever for sure tho
#38
met_arnold_ps
Yes i agree if you have bits lying around and you need a pc on the cheap then it is fairly appealing, it is certaintly better than having parts lying around, but, I would not recomend it as a main PC or if you have to buy all the bits and bobs to get it to work it is a rather expensive and not appealing prospect.

I've read that three times and I still have no idea what you're saying :)
#39
therealjohnpeat
If you use iTunes you get everything you deserve and word - WORD!! - that's a bit of software which costs 4 times what this entire MACHINE costs and which no-one on earth actually needs!

This would do fine as a 'Facebook machine' or as a NAS or as a server or whatever for sure tho


'Abiword' is probably more suitable for this spec (and opensource ), I can get Civ4, CIv4 colonization and Aof E3 to run on the GMA950 onboard graphics without lag but I guess if you want FPS type games you'll need to look elsewhere.
#40
muhasib
I have the same 45CS motherboard in a Foxconn case and also discovered the problem with the Ubuntu Freeze. Its to do with the 845 Intel Chipset which won't work with Ubuntu after 9.04 and is a documented bug which hasn't been fixed. It would have been good to have a dual boot but I just settled for XP in the end, so if you want Ubuntu be aware of this.


Uninstall Compiz (visual effects) and it works fine. I have three Foxconn machines amongst family members (single core Atom, dual core Atom and Celeron 3300) and all have been able to run Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 with Compiz removed.

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