Dell Dimension 9200 Base unit with 2.4Ghz core2duo, 2gig, 500Gb, GeForce 8600GTS £540.57 - HotUKDeals
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This also has had a chunk taken off the price today, configure it how you like, it comes with a 20" TFT which I removed for this price, or you can add the 24"TFT

Reduce the warranty to minimum and buy via quidco for further cashback savings.

305-D07922 (Home) - £540.57 delivered or less
Intel® Core 2 Duo E6600 Processor (2.4GHz,1066MHz,4MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista Business - English
2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
500GB Serial ATA RAID 0 Stripe [2x250GB 7200rpm drives with DataBurst cache]
256MB nVidia GeForce 8600GTS graphics card
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell Enhanced USB Multimedia Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black
Integrated Audio with Dolby Digital 7.1 capability
Internal 13-in-1 Media Card Reader
Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English
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#2
I wish this turned up last week:-(
#3
Wow nice price, this sounds like a really good deal. Thanks MikeT.
#4
Very good deal Mike. Voted hot.
#5
MikeT, what time in the morning do you usually post the thursday deals?

Thanks
#6
alright for dell price, still cheaper to build your own by a couple of hundred quid.
#7
minimal_fuss
alright for dell price, still cheaper to build your own by a couple of hundred quid.


I'll buy it off you then?
#8
minimal_fuss
alright for dell price, still cheaper to build your own by a couple of hundred quid.


evidence?

im looking to do a home build soon
#9
minimal_fuss
alright for dell price, still cheaper to build your own by a couple of hundred quid.


I would like to see you try!
#10
i don belive its a big deal..
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

you can build this at a cheaper cost if you know the right places.

For the not so knowledgeable ones ok not bad!!

with a 20" over £700 , 24" total approx £850+
#11
Not worth deselecting the 20" monitor.

It only knocks £105 off but it sells for about £230.
[mod] 1 Like #12
insideman
MikeT, what time in the morning do you usually post the thursday deals?

Thanks


I start loking through them at 6am Thursday and post as I find bargains throughout the morning, having said that I really dont know what will be offered this week as the change to new lines last week may mean a 2 week cycle till the next real update as has been happening lately.
#13
Yes, you could build for less than this but only probably £40 cheaper. Plus without guarantee and the machine would probably be noisier than a dell. Components such as the case/psu/motherboard are not really the best either.

If you build the initial outlay for a basic machine will always be more expensive than a bought one if you buy decent components. Thereafter the PSU/Hard drives/DVD drive/Case will keep for many more years. A decent motherboard will offer much more in terms of performance, future upgrades and overclockability (for instance I run a 6320 on an asus p5b @ 2.8ghz which is above a 6600, you would never be able to do this on a dell).

However, if you want a computer to do a job and you don't want the hastle of building then this is a good deal.

See this screen shot for cost of build

http://lh3.google.co.uk/greenwood.scott/Rov2ymiVPcI/AAAAAAAABXw/jWwyMgmO3Ug/Untitled.jpg
#14
i've built a nu rig with better specs than this and customised how i want it for 450 just this week, much better psu, p180 case, better motherboard, better graphics card and ram.........it's always cheaper to build you're own. Check out a site like hexus or bittech to learn how.

will do it for anybody for only a £50 fee, can easily beat Dell prices.
#15
buy a dell for a nice hassle free computing experience
or get down and dirt and build your own and choose your own components

i think thats what it comes down too

but me personally will always pick and choose my own components and know its upgradable

but these dells seem cracking bargains for the money :thumbsup:
#16
scottg
Thereafter the PSU/Hard drives/DVD drive/Case will keep for many more years.

Disagree with this. My Antec truepower 550w PSU which I paid a bomb for after 3 years, just outside warranty, the voltages dropped causing problems with my nforce2 motherboard which is sensitive to the change in voltage. This means I need to buy another PSU at some point.

My hard drives seem to fail every few years. Afterall these move at 7,200 RPM. Compare that with a 33 1/3 record and this spins over 200 times faster.

I personally am fed up with everything going wrong in my computer which I built myself. It's not due to incompetence either it's just the way things are.

For example my USB ports will not power self-powered USB hard disks. I have to turn the power off at the PSU and wait a few seconds then turn it on again to ensure the system bus runs at full speed, something has just gone horribly wrong with DVD writing and I continually get "power callibration error" on two different writers including a brand new one. It isn't the media as it worked fine before, it isn't the drivers as I am using the standard windows ones which worked before. And I have used a cleaning disk. The fact it's both drives suggests something is wrong with the software or possibly the power supply getting worse. 8x media will not produce readable results on the new DVD writer.

Computers annoy the hell out of me. They never work the way they're supposed to.

I guess I need to start from scratch to get one that works properly.

One problem I seem to suffer is I read reviews throroughly and find a product all the reviews rave about, and get that. I got an Abit NF7-S v2 motherboard on the recommendation of reviews only to find out it's pretty crap really.

I also went a bit extravagant and got a refurbed Sony CPD-G520 21" CRT monitor a while ago. It's good but not 100% perfect and occasionally get signal ringing despite upgrading the VGA cable to a good quality one, which needs a wiggle of the VGA connector and it usually goes away after that.

All in all it seems things never work the way they should, even if you spend loads of money on them.
#17
alfie786
i don belive its a big deal..
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

you can build this at a cheaper cost if you know the right places.

For the not so knowledgeable ones ok not bad!!

with a 20" over £700 , 24" total approx £850+


What a load of rubbish. You do not need a better graphics card for a 20" widescreen.

This is a good deal, but i agree it is worth taking the monitor (sell if not needed).

This machine will play nearly any game thrown at it. I would also like to see someone show us the same spec built for less money. Voted Hot
#18
Good deal.

I build all my own computers, but would struggle I think to build that machine and have money over. Some of dells cheaper models I wouldnt even think of trying to build for better value.

Most of my family come to me and ask me about computers and is it worth me building one, and I have to say that I direct them all to Dell.

Last one I ordered for my cousin 2 days ago, I cant remember exact specs, but is had a decent psu, 2gb of memory, 320gb hdd, 19" screen for £280 delivered, its amazing. If he had of used his old screen and mouse it would have cost 180 somethin delivered :)

Its obvious they are still making money though, Micky Dell's bank account aint runnin low I hear, guess their art is to talk you into upgrades that you dont need, thats why you order online :)
#19
Disagree with this. My Antec truepower 550w PSU which I paid a bomb for after 3 years, just outside warranty, the voltages dropped causing problems with my nforce2 motherboard which is sensitive to the change in voltage. This means I need to buy another PSU at some point.

My hard drives seem to fail every few years. Afterall these move at 7,200 RPM. Compare that with a 33 1/3 record and this spins over 200 times faster.

I personally am fed up with everything going wrong in my computer which I built myself. It's not due to incompetence either it's just the way things are.

For example my USB ports will not power self-powered USB hard disks. I have to turn the power off at the PSU and wait a few seconds then turn it on again to ensure the system bus runs at full speed, something has just gone horribly wrong with DVD writing and I continually get "power callibration error" on two different writers including a brand new one. It isn't the media as it worked fine before, it isn't the drivers as I am using the standard windows ones which worked before. And I have used a cleaning disk. The fact it's both drives suggests something is wrong with the software or possibly the power supply getting worse. 8x media will not produce readable results on the new DVD writer.

Computers annoy the hell out of me. They never work the way they're supposed to

what a horrible experience to have, i have been self building for 10 years now and never had the same problems you have had
i guess its just luck of the draw
banned#20
Hmm...does this deal offer better value for money than the lengthy E520 deal everyone went crazy over? It looks a touch on the expensive side compared to that.

Didn't have the best look with the E520 deal - **** 22" monitor with the first and PSU death on the second. Hoping the 9200 range have a better PSU included...
#21
emu
what a horrible experience to have, i have been self building for 10 years now and never had the same problems you have had
i guess its just luck of the draw

Yeah I guess I should start from scratch when I have some money and hope for better luck next time :)
#22
i do build a large amount of machines for family and friends , i think its just ca se of not trying to cut corners on certain components

recommended a few of mike t deals on the dells recently and people couldnt be happier with them

i think the 327 quid laptop was a superb bargain , i wiped all the crap off and tested it myself and would of been well pleased with it

on a side not my conroe system built for a reasonable price and now used as a htpc (e6300 running at 3.0ghrz) all with my own choice of components has been fantastic
#23
2 Questions:


Is there space for a dual SLI setup in this dell machine?

Also the last Dell i bought I couldnt fit my huge graphics card which took up two PCI rear slots, will this one fit the larger variety?
#24
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

ROFLOL! Thats the funniest comment i've seen on here in a long time! :) Just quality.
#25
The fact is Dell do use the cheapest components they can as a cross between reliability/compatability/availabilty - they are a company and need to make money.

You can certainly make a better spec'd machine for the money if you have the time & inclination (and ability). The fact is this is straight out of the box and as such that alone to some is worth a few pennies and compromise. In my experience Dell have been reliable and in the event of a mechanical repair have been prompt. Their technical support however leaves a lot to be desired.

Just for the sake of comparison: an example of a self build machine spec'd last week is:

[LIST]
[*]Intel CPU Core2Duo E6420 2x2.13GHz 1066FSB LGA775 4MB cache Retail inc.Fan (3yr Manufacturers Warranty)
[*]Abit AB9 QuadGT Motherboard LGA775 i965 Intel Core 2 Duo / Quad core processors Dual PCI-E ATX
[*]Corsair 2024MB TwinX XMS2 6400 DDR2 Memory Kit (2 x 1024MB)
[*]XFX GeForce 8400 GS 256MB DDR2 PCI-E DVI 450mhz
[*]2x 500Gb Western Digital Caviar SE16 SATA II 300 7200rpm 16MB cache Hard Disk Drive
[*]Lite-on LH-20A1S-11C SATA Retail 20x DL DVD +/-R/RW RAM Black/silver beige bezels
[*]19" Iiyama ProLite E1900WS-S3S 5 ms TFT Silver (3yr Manufacturer's Warranty)
[*]Asus TA211 Beige midi tower case 360W ATX +audio +USB2.0 ports
[/LIST]
That weighs in at £600 (probably cheaper as most of it can be sourced cheaper + quidco) and is only missing a power supply + cables so add another £30 odd. The strength is in the motherboard. This can cope with up to 8Gb of memory and a quad core processor. Future proofing (at least for a couple of years) is a serious financial bonus.

Back to topic - i think this is a good deal so have voted hot accordingly. :)
#26
I'm not a fan of Dell machines HOWEVER if you can't put together your own PC then it's an okay deal as it would cost the same amount to build one yourself with identical specs - with the Dell deal you can add a 24" monitor for £314 though which is pretty good.

:)
#27
Not to be argumentative, nobody is saying dell use the best possible components.

Putting the cheapest parts together does not guarantee they will work (I have built enough PC,s and had enough components that are not compatible).

The P.C you have specced has to be built, will have warranty from 10 different companies (when you have identified the faulty component) as well as having:
Slower processor 2.4 vs 2.13
less powerfull graphics card
worse sound card
No card reader
No Keyboard
No Mouse
No cables
A smaller silver monitor with no DVI
No legal operating system
all wrapped up in a beige case (yuck) with a power supply that will barely run the components you have selected never mind any upgrades.

Nonsense effort i am afraid.
#28
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/greenwood.scott/UntitledAlbum/photo#5083427953616174530

It can be done, but as stated before - buy quality components so that they will last for 2/3 system upgrades

Ie Good case and good psu - probably at least £100

Then look at motherboards - make sure it will support 1333 fsb (although if you can get P35 board as required for some upcoming intel chips)

Things like Dvd r/w etc are cheap enough and should last

A good CPU cooler - like thermalright/scythe ninja - runs quieter and cooler than one provided. ALso offers more room to overclock. I have a e6320 that should be running at 1.8 ghz running at 2.8 ghz (thats the same as a e6700 that costs more than twice the price)

Good DDR2 ram. I currently have PC5400 corsair stuff running at 800mhz oveclocked. This is ok for now, but higher speed of ram = higher speed of processer!! SO 1000mhz ram for an e6320 means a processor running at 3.5ghz!!

BUT if you dont want to build, dont! My pc was my first build and I still worry that something random will go wrong I wont have a clue! Read forums/articles/magazines and inform yourself of what building involves.

Idiots stating "you could do this for under £200" clearly have no idea. A rule of thumb is to look at the cost of the cheapest processor, plus ram, plus graphics card and hard drive and add together. Dell's cheapest computers usually come very close to this

Oh, and on last thing, I had a dell 5150 dimension for a year - very quiet, very pretty case and very good pc. If I wanted an off the shelve I would go dell. The problem is that the motherboard cannot be upgraded and so upgrading the computer is expensive!! (BTX board- not many people use!!) Also, remember to threaten to return PC in 7 day grace period - gets you money back!! (I got £80 back on £400 pc!!)

:w00t:
1 Like #29
mack11 - Hugh's example isn't all that great but you can build a system with the same specs as the Dell, legit OS, keyboard mouse and all for the same money. The main advantages of building a machine yourself are a) you are buying retail components and therefore it is easier to repair or upgrade the machine if ever needbe, not to mention b) some components will be of better quality (Dell often use nasty mobos and PSUs for example), and c) you have the manufacturers warranty which depending on component and manufacturer will typically be 3 years - and some have a lifetime warranty! vs the crappy 1 year Dell offer (unless you want to cough up a couple of hundred quid to extend it). :whistling:

But (before the Dell lovers have a go at me) as I said in my previous post if you can't build one yourself then it's a an okay deal.
#30
minimal_fuss
i've built a nu rig with better specs than this and customised how i want it for 450 just this week, much better psu, p180 case, better motherboard, better graphics card and ram.........it's always cheaper to build you're own. Check out a site like hexus or bittech to learn how.

will do it for anybody for only a £50 fee, can easily beat Dell prices.

It's very rare to find a cheaper system when the offer of £100 extra gets you the 20" monitor. £450 for a better system? How about proof instead of just expecting us to believe you. The graphics card is a third of that, the CPU the same, so you're getting 500GB of hard drive space, keyboard, mouse, delivery, PSU, case, 2GB RAM, card reader etc for £150, AND it's a better system? :whistling: :giggle: :w00t:
alfie786
i don belive its a big deal..
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

you can build this at a cheaper cost if you know the right places.

For the not so knowledgeable ones ok not bad!!

with a 20" over £700 , 24" total approx £850+

You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't need the 640MB for a 20" monitor you muppet!

No you can't build it cheaper, unless you want to prove that.
#31
alfie786
i don belive its a big deal..
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

you can build this at a cheaper cost if you know the right places.

For the not so knowledgeable ones ok not bad!!

with a 20" over £700 , 24" total approx £850+

the graphic card is a 8600gts and not 8800
#32
People seem to forget the price of the OS when quoting the self build price.
I used to build my own PCs and spent a fortune trying to make them quiet. The Dells are quiet and for me, reliable. You can sell them after 12 months and buy another for a couple of hundred pounds, which is a lot less than I used to spend constantly upgrading.
#33
nice machine - voted hot. Nothing wrong with that graphics card - my ancient 6800 quite happily runs my 24" Dell monitor at 1900x1200...
#34
minimal_fuss
i've built a nu rig with better specs than this and customised how i want it for 450 just this week, much better psu, p180 case, better motherboard, better graphics card and ram.........it's always cheaper to build you're own. Check out a site like hexus or bittech to learn how.

will do it for anybody for only a £50 fee, can easily beat Dell prices.


The problem I have always found was adding a legal copy of Windows on top of a home-built system price. I am not a registered OEM builder, so strictly speaking I am obliged to buy a full retail edition of Vista. If you built a system with a better graphics card, I am guessing it will be used to play games. Hence most of them will need Windows to run on (cos frankly the cost to me in time to get WINE tweaked properly for each different game wouldn't be worth it).

I just wondered how you are getting round this, or is your £450 machine sans OS?
#35
minimal_fuss
i've built a nu rig with better specs than this and customised how i want it for 450 just this week, much better psu, p180 case, better motherboard, better graphics card and ram.........it's always cheaper to build you're own. Check out a site like hexus or bittech to learn how.

will do it for anybody for only a £50 fee, can easily beat Dell prices.


If you don't mind me asking, where do you buy the components from? can you give us few useful websites please? :thumbsup:
#36
alfie786
i don belive its a big deal..
only a 256mb 8800 gts card which costs £150. not great for 20" widescreen u need something like the 640mb.

you can build this at a cheaper cost if you know the right places.

For the not so knowledgeable ones ok not bad!!

with a 20" over £700 , 24" total approx £850+


Looking on Tomshardware, I would agree it does appear that for the very latest and most demanding games this card may not be the very fastest when running at native 1680x1050 (seems to be outperformed by some of the previous generation cards that can be bought cheaper). My guess is for casual gamers it would be more than enough. And judging by many of the anti-dell, anti-prebuilt responses, I guess that most hardcore gamers wouldn't touch this anyway so it won't concern them. :thumbsup:
#37
It's quite simple.

If you know what you're doing and have the experience, of course you can build a better and cheaper pc for less money.

If you don't, then for some more cash you can have a DELL or similar and have sombody else the other end of a phone 24/7 ready to help and a nice long warrenty.

And that's that.

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oh and on a seperate line, 8600gts are awful cards in DX9...but we dont know how they'll do in DX10. You'd be much better off with a cheap 8800gts for £130 for now...till dx10 then we'll c
#38
Lets see Vista is £220 so ur saying you can build this machine for 320 quid for hardware
like to see u try

voted hot
#39
minimal_fuss
It's quite simple.

If you know what you're doing and have the experience, of course you can build a better and cheaper pc for less money.

If you don't, then for some more cash you can have a DELL or similar and have sombody else the other end of a phone 24/7 ready to help and a nice long warrenty.

And that's that.

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oh and on a seperate line, 8600gts are awful cards in DX9...but we dont know how they'll do in DX10. You'd be much better off with a cheap 8800gts for £130 for now...till dx10 then we'll c


MinimalFuss, I wouldn't dispute the claim that you can assemble identical (or even better) hardware for a lower price, even if your claimed £100 margin surprised me a little (but then I haven't built a PC for a little while). However, I still believe that to then run a legally obtained version of Windows on that hardware will tip the balance. For some people, that would be an issue.
#40
Aion
Hmm...does this deal offer better value for money than the lengthy E520 deal everyone went crazy over? It looks a touch on the expensive side compared to that.

Didn't have the best look with the E520 deal - **** 22" monitor with the first and PSU death on the second. Hoping the 9200 range have a better PSU included...


Yeah something i was wondering about that too. Thinking if i have missed something as the e520 seemed much better value.

Does the 9200 range just have better components than the e520.
Better motheboard, PSU, better expandability, etc?

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