Dell Inspiron 6400 Laptop, 1.73Ghz coreduo, 1gig, 120gb, dvdrw, wifi, Free case+Mouse £411.32 - HotUKDeals
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305-N06642 (Home) - £411.32 or less
Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core T2080 Processor (1.73GHz,533MHz,1MB L2 cache)
Genuine Windows Vista Business - English
15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display
1024MB 533MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x512]
120GB (5400rpm) SATA Hard Drive
Intel® Media Accelerator 950 Graphics Up to 256MB shared graphics memory
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including software
6 cell Lithium-Ion Battery (53 Whr)
56.6k V.92 Capable Internal Modem & Adapter
Dell Wireless 1390 802.11b/g Mini-PCI Card (for Dual-Core Processors)
Free - Deluxe Nylon Carry Case
Free Kensington Pilot Mini Wireless
Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English
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[mod]#1
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#2
Cheers Mike, just ordered one for my brother.
#3
Nice price for a laptop especialy as you get a Carry Case included in the price.

MikeT is this a good deal in comparison to other/previous deals for this laptop?
[mod]#4
The cpu is coreduo not core2duo and is around or just above the TL50 AMD in the 1501 so its a good price for what it is, its no good reflecting on whats been before as dell may never have the same deal again as was before ;-)

You need to pay quite a bit more for a step up in cpu power and I guess for most this will be quite enough as is.
Next up from this is N06643 at +£60 with a 1.73Ghz core2duo cpu.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71612
#5
MikeT
The cpu is coreduo not core2duo


Actually it is an Intel Pentium Dual-Core T2080 which pre-dates the Intel Core Duo and Intel Core 2 Duo. I don't know how this compares with the AMD Turion TL-50 available in the Inspiron 1501.

I think I'm going to choose the Inspiron 1501 but upgrade the processor to a TL-52 (£35.25 extra) to double the cache and upgrade the battery to a six-cell (£11.75 extra) for a bit more capacity.
[mod]#6
Check the sidebar links to cpu charts from my blog, the TL52 is listed below the T2050 which is a 1.6Ghz part, no listing for the T2080 but it must rate higher than the T2050 as its a 1.73Ghz part.
Hope that helps ;-)
#7
Not really, if you are referring to the notebookcheck.net page.

The T2080 is a Pentium Dual-Core
http://www.intel.com/sites/sitewide/pix/badges/pentium/dc_62.gif
Whilst the T2050 is incorrectly listed as a Core Duo
http://www.intel.com/sites/corporate/pix/badges/core/d_76.gif

I've been looking for the exact specs of the T2080 but I can't seem to find it. I also cannot find a decent comparison of the Pentium Dual-core and the AMD Turion X2 range as they always seem to compare it with the Core Duo or Core 2 Duo.
[mod]#8
Yes, I cant help with any more specs either, been round in circles looking for data but even Intel are not giving it.
#9
MikeT
Yes, I cant help with any more specs either, been round in circles looking for data but even Intel are not giving it.

Try here: http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/datashts/31651902.pdf
[mod]#10
Too much input! ;-) from one extreme to another thanks for the link but its just too much data, we really need a comparison chart that lists the 2 Intel chips and the AMD's so we can get a difinitive answer as to which is better. Must go rest the brain cells now after those 51 pages ;-)
#11
MikeT
Too much input! ;-) from one extreme to another thanks for the link but its just too much data, we really need a comparison chart that lists the 2 Intel chips and the AMD's so we can get a difinitive answer as to which is better. Must go rest the brain cells now after those 51 pages ;-)

:-D I was going to tag the link with the phrase, ‘too much information’.

The succinct differences are this:

Core Duo: FSB = 533/667, L2 cache = 2MB, 32 bit
Core 2 Duo: FSB = 533/667/800, L2 cache = 2 or 4MB, 64 bit
Pentium Dual Core: FSB = 533, L2 cache = 1MB, 32 bit

They all support Speedstep which is useful so the Pentium Dual core isn’t crippled in the way that a Celeron M is.

As for performance I’ve yet to see how the lower speed FSB models compare with the others. The L2 cache size for the desktop chips isn’t that important in many cases where even 1MB manages surprisingly well. For games though you need at least 2MB with 4MB giving a modest boost. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-e2160_4.html#sect0
It’s possible that the lower FSB speed of the Pentium Dual Core mobile in conjunction with the small cache could be a double whammy and produce a bit of a dud. The desktop Pentium dual core has a FSB of 800 which is a large difference.
[mod]#12
Pentium Dual Core: FSB = 533, L2 cache = 1MB, 32 bit. The cache is shared too so 512meg per core I think.
I still wonder if average users would notice too much difference for run of the mill stuff, its only when gaming (which the lower end laptops are not really designed for) or crunching loads of data that I guess the differences would show.
Thanks for the effort you put in on this though:thumbsup: Now go find us a comparison chart;-)
#13
MikeT
Pentium Dual Core: FSB = 533, L2 cache = 1MB, 32 bit. The cache is shared too so 512meg per core I think.
Like other recent Intel CPUs I imagine it has a unified cache that is shared between both cores rather than two individual caches that AMD are using.

MikeT
I still wonder if average users would notice too much difference for run of the mill stuff, its only when gaming (which the lower end laptops are not really designed for) or crunching loads of data that I guess the differences would show.
Agreed, this looks like it’s a reasonable compromise provided the slow FSB isn’t a bottleneck. Even if it is a bottleneck in certain cases, for the sort of tasks that your average person uses a laptop of this category for it probably isn’t an issue.

MikeT
Thanks for the effort you put in on this though:thumbsup: Now go find us a comparison chart;-)
It would be easier to make the comparison using a desktop CPU and adjust the FSB manually to see how it affects performance. I’ve not comes across a comparison using a FSB of 533 though. I have an E4400 (800/2) so if someone wants to loan me an E2160(800/1) I could run a few benchmarks. :thinking:
#14
The AMD Turion X2 has 2x 128 KB L1 cache vs 2 x 64 KB for the Core 2 Duo, and I'm guessing that the Pentium Dual Core has less, being two generations older.

The AMD has a better architecture too, so I'm still backing the Inspiron 1501 over the 6400. :thinking:

Thanks for all the effort you guys are putting in.:thumbsup:
#15
doublecuffs
The AMD Turion X2 has 2x 128 KB L1 cache vs 2 x 64 KB for the Core 2 Duo, and I'm guessing that the Pentium Dual Core has less, being two generations older.
The larger L1 cache is an irrelevance as Intel’s architecture works fine with it’s smaller cache. It’s highly unlikely that Intel would take the time to reduce the L1 cache in these mobile Pentium dual cores; they differentiate them by reducing the L2 cache instead. These mobile chips seem very likely to be a derivative of Core Duo which was only released in 2006 so they aren’t exactly antiques! This link shows them as being 32 bit only which is one reason I suggest this: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_dual-core.htm

doublecuffs
The AMD has a better architecture too, so I'm still backing the Inspiron 1501 over the 6400. :thinking:
The Core Duo can hold it’s own against the K8 in the performance stakes and it’s generally considered that Intel have the better mobile platform in terms of performance, features and power consumption. The mobile sector has been a weakness of AMD even when they owned the desktop. Fortunately they’ve announced plans to address this and their next mobile platform sounds excellent and has features that leapfrog Intel in certain areas.

Personally, everything else being equal I would choose Intel for laptops not on performance but on lower power consumption and heat levels and for their solid platform. I bought a HP Turion X2 only two months ago and sold it because the ATI chipset was terrible when using an external monitor and the thing was too hot and noisy.
#16
MikeT
Thanks for the effort you put in on this though:thumbsup: Now go find us a comparison chart;-)
This review has a couple of basic benchmarks that show the T2060 in a not very good light. http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3499&review=Gateway+MT3705

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