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New Dell Power Edge T105 Opteron Quad Core tower server

The stand-alone, AMD-based DellTM PowerEdgeTM T105 1-socket tower server offers simplified server computing for small businesses. An ideal choice for the first-time server buyer or a small business owner, the PowerEdge T105 is an economical enterprise solution. Standard security features help manage security risks, while the server is designed to be easy to set up, manage, and maintain. Ideal as a stand-alone local application server or file/print server, the T105 is also ideal for e-mail and shared internet access applications.

PE T105 Quad Core Opteron 1352 (2.1GHz, 2MB, 75W ACP)

UK/Irish Power Cord with English Docs

1GB (1x1GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz

80GB Serial ATA 7.2k 3.5" HD

80GB Serial ATA 7.2k 3.5" Additional HD

16X DVD-ROM Drive with SATA Cable

Display : Not Included

No Mouse Required

No Keyboard Required

No Operating System

PE T105 Open Manage CD + Drivers Includes Electronic Documentation

You have chosen not to take the Dell PowerEdge installation service

Base Warranty

1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day - Minimum Warranty

No Warranty Upgrade

C1 No RAID Onboard SATA Controller Min. 1 Max. 2 Drives
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#1
Good sytem voted hot great price.
#2
pcbuyit are selling the same on fleebay for 150 with free delivery !
#3
What sort of memory will it accept? ECC registered or the the normall DDR?
#4
ro888
What sort of memory will it accept? ECC registered or the the normall DDR?


The PowerEdge™ T105 has 4 memory sockets for up to 8GB of memory and uses energy efficient DDR-2 800MHz or 667MHz unbuffered DIMMs with Error-Correcting Code (ECC).
#5
Bowler_man
The PowerEdge™ T105 has 4 memory sockets for up to 8GB of memory and uses energy efficient DDR-2 800MHz or 667MHz unbuffered DIMMs with Error-Correcting Code (ECC).


ECC? it's gonna expensive. By the way, does this quad core come with the TLB bug?
#6
ro888
ECC? it's gonna expensive.


It shouldn't be.
#7
I really dont have a clue about computers but was thinking of buying a new system

I currently have:
dell dimension e520
Vista Home Premium.
DIMENSION E520 VIIV CORE 2 DUO PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2cpu, 4300 @ 1.80 GHz
1022 MB Memory (RAM)
32 bit Operating System
MEMORY DUAL CHANNEL 1024MB (2X512) 533MH
MEDIA CARD READER 13-IN-1 INTERNAL
HARD DRIVE 250GB SERIAL ATA II 7200RPM


Dont have a clue what any of that means

But if i bought this system would it be an upgrade?
#8
It's a server, not a desktop.

Servers are big, heavy & noisy, and always have **** onboard gfx.
They often don't have sound either.
#9
mikerr
It's a server, not a desktop.

Servers are big, heavy & noisy, and always have **** onboard gfx.
They often don't have sound either.


What do people use these for if they are so basic?
banned#10
shopaholic_blond
I really dont have a clue about computers but was thinking of buying a new system

I currently have:
dell dimension e520
Vista Home Premium.
DIMENSION E520 VIIV CORE 2 DUO PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2cpu, 4300 @ 1.80 GHz
1022 MB Memory (RAM)
32 bit Operating System
MEMORY DUAL CHANNEL 1024MB (2X512) 533MH
MEDIA CARD READER 13-IN-1 INTERNAL
HARD DRIVE 250GB SERIAL ATA II 7200RPM

Dont have a clue what any of that means

But if i bought this system would it be an upgrade?


it's pretty upto spec, you ough to upgrade the ram (memory) to 2 or 3gb if your using vista though :thumbsup:
#11
Tom Pickering;3334551
What do people use these for if they are so basic?

Lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing) :roll:

You wouldn't want to play games on them, but servers usually have higher cpu/ram/hdd specs than any pc.

Voted hot ( for use as a server!) .. I notice they've changed the ebay deal to match now though £160 inc delivery on ebay
#12
Waste of time without a RAID controller.
#13
mikerr;3334696
Lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing) :roll:

You wouldn't want to play games on them, but servers usually have higher cpu/ram/hdd specs than any pc.

Voted hot ( for use as a server!) .. I notice they've changed the ebay deal to match now though £160 inc delivery on ebay
Here's a link that works!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)
(yours missed the last bracket in the link)
1 Like #14
Great post, rep added but deal marked cold (see later).

A few answers to posters above.

Dellboy: The server doesn't have a dedicated RAID controller, although RAID 1/0/5 should be configurable in the BIOS. It's not intended to be a high performance server, bandwidth and drive performance is not an issue.

Tom Pickering: Businesses use servers to host their group email, calendars, documents and files. Bigger companies use servers to host websites (like HUKD) or game servers. Home users might want to look elsewhere for a media server though as this machine isn't equipped with any graphics card. It doesn't have an operating system license either - that's extra.

ro888: EEC RAM is more expensive, but this machine already comes with 1GB. Which is more than enough as a fileserver or >basic< email server.

Now for the kicker?

The CPU architecture (Barcelona) has a major bug which causes crashes and system lockups. It can be worked around with a BIOS update (this machine probably already has the BIOS update) that causes a loss of ~15% performance. All the defective chips make their way into the cheaper servers (like this one) and are flogged off to home users and small businesses who might not notice (?).

That's why the deal's cheap, folks.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMG_en-GBGB291&q=Barcelona+AMD+bug&btnG=Search&meta=
#15
mikerr
Lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing) :roll:

You wouldn't want to play games on them, but servers usually have higher cpu/ram/hdd specs than any pc.

Voted hot ( for use as a server!) .. I notice they've changed the ebay deal to match now though £160 inc delivery on ebay
What are on about servers dont require any high specs. It only really used to store data, backup data, and share data. The only thing that needs to be high is the hard drive capacity. I'm running a windows home server with an old amd athlon 1100 and 512 ram with on board graphics and 2 1tb hard drives and thats it. So for the price this is hot. For a server this very good specs.
#16
mikerr
It's a server, not a desktop.

Servers are big, heavy & noisy, and always have **** onboard gfx.
They often don't have sound either.
my server is small & quite and lives in my cupboard under the stairs.
#17
statsja
my server is small & quite and lives in my cupboard under the stairs.


You are Harry Potter's aunt or uncle and I claim my five pounds!
#18
Tom Pickering
What do people use these for if they are so basic?

servers dont require any high specs. It only really used to store data, backup data, and share data. The only thing that needs to be high is the hard drive capacity. I'm running a windows home server with an old amd athlon 1100 and 512 ram with on board graphics and 2 1tb hard drives and thats it. So for the price this is hot. For a server this very good specs.
#19
bigsky
It shouldn't be.

ECC 1GB can be had quite cheap as they get thrown out by business users as they upgrade with 2GB and 4GB memory.
#20
mikerr
It's a server, not a desktop.

Servers are big, heavy & noisy, and always have **** onboard gfx.
They often don't have sound either.

This one on offer is quite small in size in dimensions , it is about the size of a mini/midi tower, look at this demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYmo3Jtgxs
#21
Does anyone know how many PCI-E and PCI slot it comes with?
#22
mikerr
Lol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing) :roll:

You wouldn't want to play games on them, but servers usually have higher cpu/ram/hdd specs than any pc.

Voted hot ( for use as a server!) .. I notice they've changed the ebay deal to match now though £160 inc delivery on ebay


These are great as small business servers, typically for around 5 office people doing office duties and share files. But if you're an ambitious technical person and want to use this server for games then the PCI-E (8X) slot will have to be adapted to make use of the graphics cards which is (16X). The 8X slot needs to be physically cut at a couple of places as the 16x PCI-E card would over-hang the 8x slot... but the card's extra slots would be optional as the 8x of the 16x is fast enough for most graphics cards.
#23
ro888
Does anyone know how many PCI-E and PCI slot it comes with?

I/O
4 total I/O slots
3 PCI Express slots (two with x8 connector, one with x1 connector)
1 32-bit/33MHz PCI slot
Slots can support half length cards only
#24
liddlefeesh
Great post, rep added but deal marked cold (see later).


Now for the kicker?

The CPU architecture (Barcelona) has a major bug which causes crashes and system lockups. It can be worked around with a BIOS update (this machine probably already has the BIOS update) that causes a loss of ~15% performance. All the defective chips make their way into the cheaper servers (like this one) and are flogged off to home users and small businesses who might not notice (?).

That's why the deal's cheap, folks.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1CHMG_en-GBGB291&q=Barcelona+AMD+bug&btnG=Search&meta=


No, the Opteron 1352 which this machine has is a B3 stepping Barcelona, which has the TLB fixed properly, so you don't get the ~15% performance loss.
#25
It mentioned there is 1GB ram. Is it 2x512MB? or 1x1G?
#26
What's the power consumption on these like?

What would be the advantage of this over any old PC that I had lying about to use as a file/print server? What OS would people install?

Does it have gigabit networking?
#27
ro888;3334020
ECC? it's gonna expensive. By the way, does this quad core come with the TLB bug?

Only a tad more. I paid £20 for a 1GB stick a couple of months back. You shouldn't need more than 2GB unless you are serving databases.

mikerr;3334461
It's a server, not a desktop.

Servers can be big, heavy & noisy, and often have **** onboard gfx.
They often don't have sound either.

Fixed that for you.

Tom Pickering;3334551
What do people use these for if they are so basic?

They use them as servers.

Dellboy;3334924
Waste of time without a RAID controller.

Most onboard RAID controllers are FAKERAID, which are a pain to get configured and recognised. Particularly if you are not going to use spendy Microsoft Server. You would be better off configuring RAID in software or buying a cheap add-on card, if you must.

As for what OS. There is no perfect answer. It all depends on what you want to do and what your other systems are. The most popular for home systems are Microsoft Home Server and Ubuntu Server (warning - no GUI). If all you need is a print and file server, then any almost OS you can get installed will do.
#28
spraint
Only a tad more. I paid £20 for a 1GB stick a couple of months back. You shouldn't need more than 2GB unless you are serving databases.



Fixed that for you.



They use them as servers.



Most onboard RAID controllers are FAKERAID, which are a pain to get configured and recognised. Particularly if you are not going to use spendy Microsoft Server. You would be better off configuring RAID in software or buying a cheap add-on card, if you must.

As for what OS. There is no perfect answer. It all depends on what you want to do and what your other systems are. The most popular for home systems are Microsoft Home Server and Ubuntu Server (warning - no GUI). If all you need is a print and file server, then any almost OS you can get installed will do.

I come from an age when we had to have RAID cards due to CPU, bus constraints, etc and I agree with you, these days unless you're serving huge amounts of mission-critical data and have redundant hardware build with spares sitting around of the same spec, you're better off using software RAID. CPU's and the bus speeds can support 4 disks easy even when there's a lot of read/write happening.

However, for a home user it's a BIG system! :( (well for me, at least. I like small servers)
#29
FreeNAS is another good choice for no-frills home server. I am using it on my Proliant ML115 (another cheap Opteron machine, with 4 x 1TB WD GP drives). It took me some time to configure it properly though.

As to power consumption, don't know how much power this Dell will take but my Proliant consumes 51W in idle mode and 85W in active mode. To achieve this, I underclocked Opteron to 800MHz/0.8V (still more than enough to have 30MBps (240Mbps) file transfers over CIFS/SMB.
#30
moneysaverraver
it's pretty upto spec, you ough to upgrade the ram (memory) to 2 or 3gb if your using vista though :thumbsup:


yeh, i wouldn't bother to upgrade that system yet, its pretty current for normal use imo
#31
ro888
ECC? it's gonna expensive. By the way, does this quad core come with the TLB bug?


4gig, 44 quid at Crucuial. Hardly a fortune :thumbsup:

I'm tempted :thinking:
#32
ro888
It mentioned there is 1GB ram. Is it 2x512MB? or 1x1G?


1 GB (1x1GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz

tremtastic
Does it have gigabit networking?


Embedded Gigabit3 Ethernet Controller (Broadcom)
Intel 10GbE 1 port PCIe x8 Base-T



It would be tempting, except it only supports 2 hard disks, and comes with 2 * 80 GB drives. They would both need replacing to make a decent file server.
#33
Its a server , jeeez!!

none of you are pushing your processing power alone. what about the disk capacity, video, sound not to mention a keyboard, mouse, os. unless you have knowledge of computers , don't buy this its pretty much worthless...2 * 80gb disks - poor. There are a lot of "knowledgeable" loud-mouths here - ignore them this is not worth buying.
#34
ianb11
Its a server , jeeez!!

none of you are pushing your processing power alone. what about the disk capacity, video, sound not to mention a keyboard, mouse, os. unless you have knowledge of computers , don't buy this its pretty much worthless...2 * 80gb disks - poor. There are a lot of "knowledgeable" loud-mouths here - ignore them this is not worth buying.


You are right, this one is either for a novice who just installs Windows and then use it for non-games machine such as surfer, watching 2D video, file serving and office applications and for a games player needs quite a bit of technical experience (at least a few years as a home PC builder) to get this entry server to work well. This way it is quite a cheap and cheerful machine. It would perform quite well if you put the Windows system paging file on one disk and the main OS on another. The main challenge is the PCI-E X8 slot. The sound is quite easy to overcome and you will need a PCI-E X8 sound card or a PCI V2 slot sound card. The memory will be ECC and at least 2 or 3 GB of it. It is loadsa USB V2 connectors.
#35
mm tempted by this, dont have a use for it (yet :p) but seems very cheap for the specsz
#36
shopaholic_blond
I really dont have a clue about computers but was thinking of buying a new system

I currently have:
dell dimension e520
Vista Home Premium.
DIMENSION E520 VIIV CORE 2 DUO PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2cpu, 4300 @ 1.80 GHz
1022 MB Memory (RAM)
32 bit Operating System
MEMORY DUAL CHANNEL 1024MB (2X512) 533MH
MEDIA CARD READER 13-IN-1 INTERNAL
HARD DRIVE 250GB SERIAL ATA II 7200RPM


Dont have a clue what any of that means

But if i bought this system would it be an upgrade?


The System you have now should be fairly responsive if you put the same ram in it.
It should take upto 4Gb (4x 1gb) of DDR2-667 although if you went right upto the 4GB maximum you'd need to install a 64 bit operating system to make use of it all.

Prob easiest thing to do would be to Pop in 2 1GB DDR2 Modules bringing the total upto 3gb, You should see a marked improvement in performance.

I've got an E520 here (2.12ghz c2d E6420) which i've upgraded the RAM and graphics on, runs quite well :thumbsup:
#37
statsja
What are on about servers dont require any high specs. It only really used to store data, backup data, and share data. The only thing that needs to be high is the hard drive capacity. I'm running a windows home server with an old amd athlon 1100 and 512 ram with on board graphics and 2 1tb hard drives and thats it. So for the price this is hot. For a server this very good specs.


That would depend On what you have running on them ;-)
Although Put a Decent amount of ram in should be good for playing about with visualization :-D
#38
Just thought I'd mention that virtually the whole of this thread is completely incomprehensible to this old bu**er!

WTF are you all on about? And which planet do you come from? :?

Time for me to get my Horlicks and creep off to bed . . .
#39
statsja
What are on about servers dont require any high specs. It only really used to store data, backup data, and share data. The only thing that needs to be high is the hard drive capacity. I'm running a windows home server with an old amd athlon 1100 and 512 ram with on board graphics and 2 1tb hard drives and thats it. So for the price this is hot. For a server this very good specs.
So every server used around the world "dont require any high specs"? :roll:

Nice spec server anyway would be nice if it could run ESXi.
#40
Voted hot, rep added, and ordered.

Even though in comparison to the HP G5 ML115 deal that I also have; this is a tad expensive, but that was a phenomenal deal, and you can't always be sure that they will be repeated/or wait around if your need is now.

It will be interesting to compare the two. My usage is servers; though I might swap the quad core cpu into the HP and use it as a workstation, keeping the Dell as a server only.

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